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Chatlog 2012-11-13
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14:55:45 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #sparql 14:55:45 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/11/13-sparql-irc 14:55:47 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world 14:55:47 <Zakim> Zakim has joined #sparql 14:55:49 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277 14:55:49 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes 14:55:50 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference 14:55:50 <trackbot> Date: 13 November 2012 14:56:00 <AndyS> zakim, this is 77277 14:56:00 <Zakim> AndyS, I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be 77277". 14:56:56 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started 14:57:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller] 14:57:10 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me 14:57:10 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it 14:59:45 <AxelPolleres> AxelPolleres has joined #sparql 14:59:52 <bglimm> bglimm has joined #sparql 15:00:17 <AxelPolleres> hmmm, FWIW, I get a busy sign on the usual number 15:00:47 <Zakim> +??P9 15:00:56 <bglimm> Zakim, ??P9 is me 15:00:56 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it 15:02:57 <bglimm> Axel, I dialied in via voip 15:03:07 <bglimm> and that worked fine 15:03:55 <Zakim> + +43.664.885.5aaaa 15:04:24 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone 15:04:24 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', AxelPolleres 15:04:39 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, aaaa is me 15:04:39 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres; got it 15:04:47 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone? 15:04:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, bglimm, AxelPolleres 15:05:27 <AxelPolleres> regrets: sandro, chime 15:05:45 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0144.html 15:06:23 <AxelPolleres> 1) contacting AC Reps ... 2) next steps forward for CR docs, i.e. contacting implementers, completing test suites 15:06:50 <AxelPolleres> thanks everybody for helpinh with the PR/CR publications 15:07:06 <AxelPolleres> we hope the colleagues at ISWC advertise there 15:07:25 <AxelPolleres> who contacted AC Reps? 15:07:53 <AxelPolleres> Birte contacted Karlsruhe, Aberdeen, Manchester, Oxford, Ulm 15:08:04 <Zakim> +pgearon 15:08:07 <AxelPolleres> Axel contacted AC Rep from Siemens 15:08:14 <Zakim> -pgearon 15:08:31 <AxelPolleres> Birte: also OWL2 PER needs recommendations from AC Reps... 15:08:46 <bglimm> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/owl2_per/ 15:09:29 <AxelPolleres> Andy: will fill the SPARQL form today 15:09:43 <AxelPolleres> any other support would be very welcome. 15:10:03 <bglimm> http://www.w3.org/News/2012#entry-9605 15:10:03 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to contact AC Rep of DERI as well. 15:10:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-713 - Contact AC Rep of DERI as well. [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-11-20]. 15:10:15 <Zakim> +pgearon 15:12:00 <AxelPolleres> The link to the review form for AC Reps is in the PR drafts in the Status section. 15:12:13 <bglimm> Revelytix, Inc.: Michael A. Lang Sr. 15:12:22 <AxelPolleres> Please any member who reades the minutes, also contact your AC reps. 15:12:27 <bglimm> That's the AC rep on my list of AC reps 15:13:12 <AxelPolleres> topic: CR docs next steps 15:13:27 <AxelPolleres> entailment, protocol, GSP 15:14:22 <AxelPolleres> Birte: Jeff should be able to run tests soon, some others might not be able to make it in time 15:14:36 <AxelPolleres> ... michael schneider said he would implement all but RIF regimes. 15:14:45 <AxelPolleres> ... will contact him again. 15:16:03 <AxelPolleres> ... stardog reports RDF, RDFS, and RDF-based semantics, but no direct semantics. 15:16:32 <AxelPolleres> ... I used ARQ+rules for RDF-based semantics as well. 15:16:50 <AxelPolleres> ... Olivier also reported results for RDF+RDFS. 15:17:34 <AxelPolleres> Axel: is there any risk for any of the entailment regimes we didn't mark at risk? 15:17:40 <AxelPolleres> Birte: no 15:17:58 <AxelPolleres> Axel: tests? 15:18:27 <AxelPolleres> Birte: We do have quite some tests now, because several tests can be used for several semantics. 15:18:48 <AxelPolleres> ... we'd need a kind of table to check which test goes fir which entailment regime. 15:19:24 <AxelPolleres> ... I could prepare a spreadsheet or alike to make it more transparent. 15:20:09 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Birte to make a spreadsheet on entailment tests (which regimes they apply to) 15:20:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-714 - Make a spreadsheet on entailment tests (which regimes they apply to) [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-11-20]. 15:20:27 <AxelPolleres> topic: AOB? 15:20:33 <AndyS> Jena passes GSP except (1) some 200/204 confusion and (2) multipart upload. Else, all passes and, importantly, all the new features (indirect naming, POST to graph = append, container create) 15:20:40 <AndyS> Jena passes protocol 15:21:29 <AxelPolleres> Andy: Greg also passes protocol and Chime passes GSP, I think 15:22:03 <AxelPolleres> Axel: then we also seem to be on track there, (Greg and Chime to confirm) 15:22:31 <kasei> i pass protocol. the last time chime sent me results, he was passing most but not all of GSP. not sure if that was just a hiccup. 15:22:31 <AxelPolleres> comments? 15:22:57 <AxelPolleres> JS-1 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2012Nov/0000.html 15:23:00 <kasei> i've been meaning to draft a response to JS-1. 15:23:15 <kasei> unless someone gets to it first :) 15:23:28 <AxelPolleres> greg, I put your name on the comments page, ok? 15:23:33 <kasei> sure 15:23:49 <chimezie_> chimezie_ has joined #sparql 15:24:30 <chimezie_> Zakim, who is on the phone? 15:24:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, bglimm, AxelPolleres, pgearon 15:25:17 <Zakim> +Chimezie 15:27:02 <chimezie_> Zakim, mute me 15:27:02 <Zakim> sorry, chimezie_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 15:27:21 <chimezie_> Zakim, Chimezie is me 15:27:21 <Zakim> +chimezie_; got it 15:27:31 <AxelPolleres> Andy: Jan Wielemaker's comment is on a feature from sparql 1.0 15:27:51 <AndyS> ... used in a SPARQL 1.1 test for CONSTRUCT WHERE 15:27:58 <chimezie_> Zakim, mute me 15:27:58 <Zakim> chimezie_ should now be muted 15:28:44 <AxelPolleres> Andy: Any change at this point would technically be a change to the tests 15:29:36 <AxelPolleres> Axel: Did they demand a change? 15:29:56 <AxelPolleres> Andy: At this stage we ccan't really make a change 15:30:31 <AxelPolleres> Axel: let's leave it like that for the time being 15:30:56 <AxelPolleres> AOB? othewise adjourned. 15:31:07 <AndyS> ADJOURNED 15:31:07 <bglimm> bye 15:31:09 <Zakim> -chimezie_ 15:31:10 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres 15:31:12 <Zakim> -AndyS 15:31:13 <Zakim> -bglimm 15:31:17 <Zakim> -pgearon 15:31:18 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended 15:31:18 <Zakim> Attendees were AndyS, bglimm, +43.664.885.5aaaa, AxelPolleres, pgearon, chimezie_ 15:31:19 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public 15:31:55 <AxelPolleres> Ah, I forgot, we still don't have minutes from lst time, will ping sandro agian on that. 18:52:03 <Zakim> Zakim has left #sparql 20:34:03 <AndyS> AndyS has joined #sparql # SPECIAL MARKER FOR CHATSYNC. 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