SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 13 November 2012

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0144.html
Seen
Andy Seaborne, Axel Polleres, Birte Glimm, Chimezie Ogbuji, Gregory Williams, Paul Gearon, Sandro Hawke
Regrets
Sandro Hawke, Chimezie Ogbuji
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions

None.

Topics
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14:55:49 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

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14:55:49 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes

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14:55:50 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:55:50 <trackbot> Date: 13 November 2012
14:56:00 <AndyS> zakim, this is 77277

Andy Seaborne: zakim, this is 77277

14:56:00 <Zakim> AndyS, I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be 77277".

Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS, I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be 77277".

14:56:56 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started

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14:57:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:57:10 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPCaller is me

14:57:10 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it

15:00:17 <AxelPolleres> hmmm, FWIW, I get a busy sign on the usual number

Axel Polleres: hmmm, FWIW, I get a busy sign on the usual number

15:00:47 <Zakim> +??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9

15:00:56 <bglimm> Zakim, ??P9 is me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, ??P9 is me

15:00:56 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm; got it

15:02:57 <bglimm> Axel, I dialied in via voip

Birte Glimm: Axel, I dialied in via voip

15:03:07 <bglimm> and that worked fine

Birte Glimm: and that worked fine

15:03:55 <Zakim> + +43.664.885.5aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +43.664.885.5aaaa

15:04:24 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone

15:04:24 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is on the phone', AxelPolleres

15:04:39 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, aaaa is me

Axel Polleres: Zakim, aaaa is me

15:04:39 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AxelPolleres; got it

15:04:47 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:04:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, bglimm, AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, bglimm, AxelPolleres

15:05:27 <AxelPolleres> regrets: sandro, chime
15:05:45 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0144.html
15:06:23 <AxelPolleres>   1) contacting AC Reps  ...  2) next steps forward for CR docs, i.e. contacting implementers, completing test suites

Axel Polleres: 1) contacting AC Reps ... 2) next steps forward for CR docs, i.e. contacting implementers, completing test suites

15:06:50 <AxelPolleres> thanks everybody for helpinh with the PR/CR publications

Axel Polleres: thanks everybody for helpinh with the PR/CR publications

15:07:06 <AxelPolleres> we hope the colleagues at ISWC advertise there

Axel Polleres: we hope the colleagues at ISWC advertise there

15:07:25 <AxelPolleres> who contacted AC Reps?

Axel Polleres: who contacted AC Reps?

15:07:53 <AxelPolleres> Birte contacted Karlsruhe, Aberdeen, Manchester, Oxford, Ulm

Axel Polleres: Birte contacted Karlsruhe, Aberdeen, Manchester, Oxford, Ulm

15:08:04 <Zakim> +pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon

15:08:07 <AxelPolleres> Axel contacted AC Rep from Siemens

Axel Polleres: Axel contacted AC Rep from Siemens

15:08:14 <Zakim> -pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: -pgearon

15:08:31 <AxelPolleres> Birte: also OWL2 PER needs recommendations from AC Reps...

Birte Glimm: also OWL2 PER needs recommendations from AC Reps... [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:08:46 <bglimm> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/owl2_per/

Birte Glimm: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/owl2_per/

15:09:29 <AxelPolleres> Andy: will fill the SPARQL form today

Andy Seaborne: will fill the SPARQL form today [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:09:43 <AxelPolleres> any other support would be very welcome.

Axel Polleres: any other support would be very welcome.

15:10:03 <bglimm> http://www.w3.org/News/2012#entry-9605

Birte Glimm: http://www.w3.org/News/2012#entry-9605

15:10:03 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to contact AC Rep of DERI as well.

ACTION: axel to contact AC Rep of DERI as well.

15:10:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-713 - Contact AC Rep of DERI as well. [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-11-20].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-713 - Contact AC Rep of DERI as well. [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-11-20].

15:10:15 <Zakim> +pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon

15:12:00 <AxelPolleres> The link to the review form for AC Reps is in the PR drafts in the Status section.

Axel Polleres: The link to the review form for AC Reps is in the PR drafts in the Status section.

15:12:13 <bglimm> Revelytix, Inc.:	Michael A. Lang Sr.

Birte Glimm: Revelytix, Inc.: Michael A. Lang Sr.

15:12:22 <AxelPolleres> Please any member who reades the minutes, also contact your AC reps.

Axel Polleres: Please any member who reades the minutes, also contact your AC reps.

15:12:27 <bglimm> That's the AC rep on my list of AC reps

Birte Glimm: That's the AC rep on my list of AC reps

15:13:12 <AxelPolleres> topic: CR docs next steps

1. CR docs next steps

15:13:27 <AxelPolleres> entailment, protocol, GSP

Axel Polleres: entailment, protocol, GSP

15:14:22 <AxelPolleres> Birte: Jeff should be able to run tests soon, some others might not be able to make it in time

Birte Glimm: Jeff should be able to run tests soon, some others might not be able to make it in time [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:14:36 <AxelPolleres> ... michael schneider said he would implement all but RIF regimes.

Axel Polleres: ... michael schneider said he would implement all but RIF regimes.

15:14:45 <AxelPolleres> ... will contact him again.

Axel Polleres: ... will contact him again.

15:16:03 <AxelPolleres> ... stardog reports RDF, RDFS, and RDF-based semantics, but no direct semantics.

Axel Polleres: ... stardog reports RDF, RDFS, and RDF-based semantics, but no direct semantics.

15:16:32 <AxelPolleres> ... I used ARQ+rules for RDF-based semantics as well.

Axel Polleres: ... I used ARQ+rules for RDF-based semantics as well.

15:16:50 <AxelPolleres> ... Olivier also reported results for RDF+RDFS.

Axel Polleres: ... Olivier also reported results for RDF+RDFS.

15:17:34 <AxelPolleres> Axel: is there any risk for any of the entailment regimes we didn't mark at risk?

Axel Polleres: is there any risk for any of the entailment regimes we didn't mark at risk? [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:17:40 <AxelPolleres> Birte: no

Birte Glimm: no [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:17:58 <AxelPolleres> Axel: tests?

Axel Polleres: tests? [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:18:27 <AxelPolleres> Birte: We do have quite some tests now, because several tests can be used for several semantics.

Birte Glimm: We do have quite some tests now, because several tests can be used for several semantics. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:18:48 <AxelPolleres> ... we'd need a kind of table to check which test goes fir which entailment regime.

Axel Polleres: ... we'd need a kind of table to check which test goes fir which entailment regime.

15:19:24 <AxelPolleres> ... I could prepare a spreadsheet or alike to make it more transparent.

Axel Polleres: ... I could prepare a spreadsheet or alike to make it more transparent.

15:20:09 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Birte to make a spreadsheet on entailment tests (which regimes they apply to)

ACTION: Birte to make a spreadsheet on entailment tests (which regimes they apply to)

15:20:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-714 - Make a spreadsheet on entailment tests (which regimes they apply to) [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-11-20].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-714 - Make a spreadsheet on entailment tests (which regimes they apply to) [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-11-20].

15:20:27 <AxelPolleres> topic: AOB?

2. AOB?

15:20:33 <AndyS> Jena passes GSP except (1) some 200/204 confusion and (2) multipart upload.  Else, all passes and, importantly, all the new features (indirect naming, POST to graph = append, container create)

Andy Seaborne: Jena passes GSP except (1) some 200/204 confusion and (2) multipart upload. Else, all passes and, importantly, all the new features (indirect naming, POST to graph = append, container create)

15:20:40 <AndyS> Jena passes protocol

Andy Seaborne: Jena passes protocol

15:21:29 <AxelPolleres> Andy: Greg also passes protocol and Chime passes GSP, I think

Andy Seaborne: Greg also passes protocol and Chime passes GSP, I think [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:22:03 <AxelPolleres> Axel: then we also seem to be on track there, (Greg and Chime to confirm)

Axel Polleres: then we also seem to be on track there, (Greg and Chime to confirm) [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:22:31 <kasei> i pass protocol. the last time chime sent me results, he was passing most but not all of GSP. not sure if that was just a hiccup.

Gregory Williams: i pass protocol. the last time chime sent me results, he was passing most but not all of GSP. not sure if that was just a hiccup.

15:22:31 <AxelPolleres> comments?

Axel Polleres: comments?

15:22:57 <AxelPolleres> JS-1 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2012Nov/0000.html

Axel Polleres: JS-1 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2012Nov/0000.html

15:23:00 <kasei> i've been meaning to draft a response to JS-1.

Gregory Williams: i've been meaning to draft a response to JS-1.

15:23:15 <kasei> unless someone gets to it first :)

Gregory Williams: unless someone gets to it first :)

15:23:28 <AxelPolleres> greg, I put your name on the comments page, ok?

Axel Polleres: greg, I put your name on the comments page, ok?

15:23:33 <kasei> sure

Gregory Williams: sure

15:24:30 <chimezie_> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:24:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, bglimm, AxelPolleres, pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, bglimm, AxelPolleres, pgearon

15:25:17 <Zakim> +Chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: +Chimezie

15:27:02 <chimezie_> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

15:27:02 <Zakim> sorry, chimezie_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, chimezie_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

15:27:21 <chimezie_> Zakim, Chimezie is me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, Chimezie is me

15:27:21 <Zakim> +chimezie_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +chimezie_; got it

15:27:31 <AxelPolleres> Andy: Jan Wielemaker's comment is on a feature from sparql 1.0

Andy Seaborne: Jan Wielemaker's comment is on a feature from sparql 1.0 [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:27:51 <AndyS> ... used in a SPARQL 1.1 test for CONSTRUCT WHERE

Andy Seaborne: ... used in a SPARQL 1.1 test for CONSTRUCT WHERE

15:27:58 <chimezie_> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

15:27:58 <Zakim> chimezie_ should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie_ should now be muted

15:28:44 <AxelPolleres> Andy: Any change at this point would technically be a change to the tests

Andy Seaborne: Any change at this point would technically be a change to the tests [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:29:36 <AxelPolleres> Axel: Did they demand a change?

Axel Polleres: Did they demand a change? [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:29:56 <AxelPolleres> Andy: At this stage we ccan't really make a change

Andy Seaborne: At this stage we ccan't really make a change [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:30:31 <AxelPolleres> Axel: let's leave it like that for the time being

Axel Polleres: let's leave it like that for the time being [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

15:30:56 <AxelPolleres> AOB? othewise adjourned.

Axel Polleres: AOB? othewise adjourned.

15:31:07 <AndyS> ADJOURNED

Andy Seaborne: ADJOURNED

15:31:07 <bglimm> bye

Birte Glimm: bye

15:31:09 <Zakim> -chimezie_

Zakim IRC Bot: -chimezie_

15:31:10 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: -AxelPolleres

15:31:12 <Zakim> -AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS

15:31:13 <Zakim> -bglimm

Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm

15:31:17 <Zakim> -pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: -pgearon

15:31:18 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

15:31:18 <Zakim> Attendees were AndyS, bglimm, +43.664.885.5aaaa, AxelPolleres, pgearon, chimezie_

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were AndyS, bglimm, +43.664.885.5aaaa, AxelPolleres, pgearon, chimezie_

15:31:19 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public

Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public

15:31:55 <AxelPolleres> Ah, I forgot, we still don't have minutes from lst time, will ping sandro agian on that.

Axel Polleres: Ah, I forgot, we still don't have minutes from lst time, will ping sandro agian on that.



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