13:57:51 <AxelPolleres> trackbot, start meeting
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13:57:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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13:57:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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13:57:56 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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13:57:57 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:57:57 <trackbot> Date: 09 October 2012
13:58:17 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-10-02 + http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0061.html
13:58:33 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started ←
13:58:42 <Zakim> +pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon ←
13:59:06 <AxelPolleres> chair: AxelPolleres
13:59:11 <AxelPolleres> regrets: LeeF
13:59:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:59:29 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPCaller is me ←
13:59:29 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
13:59:38 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
13:59:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgearon, AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgearon, AndyS ←
13:59:49 <Zakim> + +49.897.aaaa - is perhaps AxelPolleres?
Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.897.aaaa - is perhaps AxelPolleres? ←
13:59:58 <Zakim> +kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: +kasei ←
14:00:00 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, aaaa is me
Axel Polleres: Zakim, aaaa is me ←
14:00:00 <Zakim> sorry, AxelPolleres, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AxelPolleres, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa' ←
14:00:04 <Zakim> +??P12
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12 ←
14:00:10 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgearon, AndyS, AxelPolleres, kasei, ??P12
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgearon, AndyS, AxelPolleres, kasei, ??P12 ←
14:00:14 <bglimm> Zakim, ??P12 is bglimm
Birte Glimm: Zakim, ??P12 is bglimm ←
14:00:14 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm; got it ←
14:00:59 <Zakim> +MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry ←
14:01:16 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
14:01:19 <AxelPolleres> scribe: bglimm
(Scribe set to Birte Glimm)
14:01:42 <AxelPolleres> zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:01:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgearon, AndyS, AxelPolleres, kasei, bglimm, MattPerry, Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgearon, AndyS, AxelPolleres, kasei, bglimm, MattPerry, Sandro ←
14:01:45 <Zakim> +??P11
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11 ←
14:01:45 <Zakim> +??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18 ←
14:01:50 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P18 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P18 is me ←
14:01:50 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it ←
14:01:52 <SteveH_> Zakim, ??P11 is me
Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P11 is me ←
14:01:52 <Zakim> +SteveH_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveH_; got it ←
14:02:14 <AxelPolleres> chime, are you dialing in?
Axel Polleres: chime, are you dialing in? ←
14:02:34 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin
14:02:39 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-10-02
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-10-02 ←
14:02:47 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Let us try to approve last week's minutes
Axel Polleres: Let us try to approve last week's minutes ←
14:02:54 <bglimm> ... any support?
... any support? ←
14:03:03 <pgearon> +1
Paul Gearon: +1 ←
14:03:06 <pgearon> to support
Paul Gearon: to support ←
14:03:09 <bglimm> (no objections)
(no objections) ←
14:03:11 <bglimm> +1
+1 ←
14:03:14 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-10-02
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-10-02 ←
14:03:29 <AxelPolleres> Next regular meeting: 2012-10-16 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: cf. scribe_list)
Axel Polleres: Next regular meeting: 2012-10-16 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: cf. scribe_list) ←
14:03:34 <bglimm> ... next reg. meeting: next week 16th Oct
... next reg. meeting: next week 16th Oct ←
14:03:39 <AxelPolleres> regrets for next time.
Axel Polleres: regrets for next time. ←
14:03:40 <bglimm> ... regrets from Axel
... regrets from Axel ←
14:03:52 <bglimm> ... Lee might not be available, but Sandro can jump in
... Lee might not be available, but Sandro can jump in ←
14:04:14 <AxelPolleres> topic: 1) checking in contingent votes from last week
14:04:16 <bglimm> ... Let's quickly go through the votes from last week
... Let's quickly go through the votes from last week ←
14:04:30 <Zakim> -cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara ←
14:05:09 <bglimm> ... looking at the minutes we wanted to publish the Query spec modulo some small changes
... looking at the minutes we wanted to publish the Query spec modulo some small changes ←
14:05:15 <bglimm> ... changes have been done
... changes have been done ←
14:05:29 <bglimm> ... overview also needed changes to the references, that's also done
... overview also needed changes to the references, that's also done ←
14:05:51 <Zakim> +??P26
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P26 ←
14:05:59 <bglimm> ... sending the response to RV-10 and getting response was also a prerequisite for publishing
... sending the response to RV-10 and getting response was also a prerequisite for publishing ←
14:06:01 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P26 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P26 is me ←
14:06:01 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it ←
14:06:21 <bglimm> .... but Rob told me he does not have the time to send an acknowledgement, but seems ok
.... but Rob told me he does not have the time to send an acknowledgement, but seems ok ←
14:06:27 <sandro> +1 rephrase resolution to publish, without RV-10 bit
Sandro Hawke: +1 rephrase resolution to publish, without RV-10 bit ←
14:06:30 <Zakim> +Chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: +Chimezie ←
14:06:30 <bglimm> .... we should go back to that resolution
.... we should go back to that resolution ←
14:06:53 <bglimm> .... the other actions also have been done (692 and 693)
.... the other actions also have been done (692 and 693) ←
14:07:12 <bglimm> ... let's close them
... let's close them ←
14:07:12 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-692
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-692 ←
14:07:12 <trackbot> ACTION-692 Approve the change re: banning multiple same blank node label in update requests closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-692 Approve the change re: banning multiple same blank node label in update requests closed ←
14:07:15 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←
14:07:15 <Zakim> Chimezie should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie should now be muted ←
14:07:20 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-693
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-693 ←
14:07:20 <trackbot> ACTION-693 Update wording in update document to be consistent wiht change re: blank node labels in query doc closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-693 Update wording in update document to be consistent wiht change re: blank node labels in query doc closed ←
14:07:35 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-691
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-691 ←
14:07:35 <trackbot> ACTION-691 Make change to rq25 to reflect banning use of the same bNode label across operations. Notify WG when done. closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-691 Make change to rq25 to reflect banning use of the same bNode label across operations. Notify WG when done. closed ←
14:07:43 <bglimm> ... we can also close the action on Andy to implement the changes (691)
... we can also close the action on Andy to implement the changes (691) ←
14:08:10 <bglimm> .... I propose to publish the Update doc without waiting for Rob's response
.... I propose to publish the Update doc without waiting for Rob's response ←
14:08:11 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml as PR
PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml as PR ←
14:08:20 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:08:22 <bglimm> +1
+1 ←
14:08:23 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
14:08:25 <AxelPolleres> +1 (siemens)
Axel Polleres: +1 (siemens) ←
14:08:26 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:08:26 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:08:29 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)
Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF) ←
14:08:33 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:08:34 <SteveH_> +1
Steve Harris: +1 ←
14:08:35 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
14:08:37 <pgearon> +1
Paul Gearon: +1 ←
14:08:44 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:08:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgearon, AndyS, AxelPolleres, kasei, bglimm, MattPerry, Sandro, SteveH_, cbuilara, Chimezie (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgearon, AndyS, AxelPolleres, kasei, bglimm, MattPerry, Sandro, SteveH_, cbuilara, Chimezie (muted) ←
14:09:02 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml as PR
RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.1/Overview.xml as PR ←
14:09:03 <bglimm> ... it seems everybody agreed
... it seems everybody agreed ←
14:09:28 <AxelPolleres> ... no objections, no abstentions.
Axel Polleres: ... no objections, no abstentions. ←
14:09:45 <AxelPolleres> topic: 2) remaining docs
14:09:47 <bglimm> ... now let us go through the remaining docs
... now let us go through the remaining docs ←
14:10:17 <bglimm> ... let us start with entailment
... let us start with entailment ←
14:10:19 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: Entailment: we will try to approve at least some test cases and propose to vote for CR
14:10:39 <bglimm> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0018.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0018.html ←
14:11:03 <bglimm> ... we could proceed to CR with a preliminary test suite
... we could proceed to CR with a preliminary test suite ←
14:11:26 <bglimm> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0058.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0058.html ←
14:11:38 <bglimm> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0062.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0062.html ←
14:12:24 <bglimm> ... I suggest to approve the test cases in the first mail plus the new test paper-sparqldl-Q1-rdfs
... I suggest to approve the test cases in the first mail plus the new test paper-sparqldl-Q1-rdfs ←
14:12:29 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: approve entailment test cases as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0062.html
PROPOSED: approve entailment test cases as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0062.html ←
14:13:03 <bglimm> ... Birte's implementation passes these, but we don't have a second implementation yet
... Birte's implementation passes these, but we don't have a second implementation yet ←
14:13:15 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:13:21 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:13:22 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
14:13:25 <pgearon> +1
Paul Gearon: +1 ←
14:13:26 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:13:27 <bglimm> .... we also added a new RDFS test case adapted from an OWL test
.... we also added a new RDFS test case adapted from an OWL test ←
14:13:28 <bglimm> +1
+1 ←
14:13:31 <kasei> 0 (haven't had time to review)
Gregory Williams: 0 (haven't had time to review) ←
14:13:32 <SteveH_> 0 - not run them
Steve Harris: 0 - not run them ←
14:13:39 <AndyS> 0 (have not looked/run them I'm afraid - apologies)
Andy Seaborne: 0 (have not looked/run them I'm afraid - apologies) ←
14:13:45 <MattPerry> 0 (haven't reviewed them)
Matthew Perry: 0 (haven't reviewed them) ←
14:14:11 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: approve entailment test cases as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0062.html
RESOLVED: approve entailment test cases as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0062.html ←
14:14:37 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: birte to mark approved tests in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/entailment/manifest.ttl
ACTION: birte to mark approved tests in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/entailment/manifest.ttl ←
14:14:37 <trackbot> Created ACTION-694 - Mark approved tests in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/entailment/manifest.ttl [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-10-16].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-694 - Mark approved tests in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/entailment/manifest.ttl [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-10-16]. ←
14:15:12 <bglimm> ... From my POV we could vote for publishing the Entailment Regimes as CR
... From my POV we could vote for publishing the Entailment Regimes as CR ←
14:15:18 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/entailment/ as CR
PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/entailment/ as CR ←
14:15:27 <bglimm> +1 (UUlm)
+1 (UUlm) ←
14:15:32 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
14:15:32 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:15:33 <AxelPolleres> +1 (siemens)
Axel Polleres: +1 (siemens) ←
14:15:34 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)
Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF) ←
14:15:35 <pgearon> +1
Paul Gearon: +1 ←
14:15:36 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:15:39 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)
Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle) ←
14:15:39 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:15:42 <SteveH_> +1 (Experian)
Steve Harris: +1 (Experian) ←
14:16:16 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/entailment/ as CR
RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/entailment/ as CR ←
14:16:29 <AxelPolleres> ... no objections, no abstentions.
Axel Polleres: ... no objections, no abstentions. ←
14:16:45 <bglimm> .... next docs are SD and Protocol
.... next docs are SD and Protocol ←
14:18:05 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: Protocol and SD
14:18:55 <bglimm> ... there were some mails in which Chime said there are some disambiguities between SD requests and protocol, which were not made explicit in the spec
... there were some mails in which Chime said there are some disambiguities between SD requests and protocol, which were not made explicit in the spec ←
14:18:56 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0066.html
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0066.html ←
14:19:20 <bglimm> ... I think there were 2 proposed changes, not sure if implemented already
... I think there were 2 proposed changes, not sure if implemented already ←
14:19:26 <bglimm> Chime: No, not yet implemented
Chimezie Ogbuji: No, not yet implemented ←
14:19:45 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:19:45 <Zakim> Chimezie should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Chimezie should no longer be muted ←
14:20:18 <bglimm> kasei: I believe the wording in protocol is more correct, so I'll try to align SD with that
Gregory Williams: I believe the wording in protocol is more correct, so I'll try to align SD with that ←
14:20:38 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Greg to align wording of SD and protocol wrt. terminology and implement wording as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0066.html
ACTION: Greg to align wording of SD and protocol wrt. terminology and implement wording as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0066.html ←
14:20:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-695 - Align wording of SD and protocol wrt. terminology and implement wording as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0066.html [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-10-16].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-695 - Align wording of SD and protocol wrt. terminology and implement wording as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0066.html [on Gregory Williams - due 2012-10-16]. ←
14:21:04 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Chime, can you review the change?
Axel Polleres: Chime, can you review the change? ←
14:21:09 <chimezie> Sure
Chimezie Ogbuji: Sure ←
14:21:11 <bglimm> Chimezie: Yes
Chimezie Ogbuji: Yes ←
14:21:21 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: chime to review changes as per ACTION-695
ACTION: chime to review changes as per ACTION-695 ←
14:21:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-696 - Review changes as per ACTION-695 [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2012-10-16].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-696 - Review changes as per ACTION-695 [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2012-10-16]. ←
14:22:06 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 protocol as CR contingent completion of ACTION-696
PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 protocol as CR contingent completion of ACTION-696 ←
14:23:11 <bglimm> kasei: There are no changes in Protocol, only in SD
Gregory Williams: There are no changes in Protocol, only in SD ←
14:23:28 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 protocol as CR
PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 protocol as CR ←
14:23:32 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: We don't need to consider changes for Protocol then
Axel Polleres: We don't need to consider changes for Protocol then ←
14:23:40 <bglimm> +1 (UUlm)
+1 (UUlm) ←
14:23:45 <kasei> +1 (RPI)
Gregory Williams: +1 (RPI) ←
14:23:46 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)
Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF) ←
14:23:48 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:23:48 <AxelPolleres> +1 (siemens)
Axel Polleres: +1 (siemens) ←
14:23:50 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)
Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle) ←
14:23:57 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
14:24:16 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:24:39 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 protocol as CR
RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 protocol as CR ←
14:24:46 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: I think Paul is not here at the moment
Axel Polleres: I think Paul is not here at the moment ←
14:25:11 <AxelPolleres> no objections, no abstentions (paul absent)
Axel Polleres: no objections, no abstentions (paul absent) ←
14:25:13 <pgearon> sorry, back now
Paul Gearon: sorry, back now ←
14:25:23 <pgearon> +1
Paul Gearon: +1 ←
14:25:31 <AxelPolleres> no objections, no abstentions
Axel Polleres: no objections, no abstentions ←
14:26:08 <bglimm> ... Next one is SD, voting contingent on action 696
... Next one is SD, voting contingent on ACTION-696 ←
14:26:20 <SteveH_> +1 (Experian) - sorry late respone for query
Steve Harris: +1 (Experian) - sorry late respone for query ←
14:26:23 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Service Description as PR contingent completion of ACTION-696
PROPOSED: publish SPARQL1.1 Service Description as PR contingent completion of ACTION-696 ←
14:26:26 <bglimm> ... we have sufficient implementation, so we can publish as PR
... we have sufficient implementation, so we can publish as PR ←
14:26:33 <kasei> +1 (RPI)
Gregory Williams: +1 (RPI) ←
14:26:38 <chimezie> +1 (IE)
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 (IE) ←
14:26:39 <AxelPolleres> +1 (siemens)
Axel Polleres: +1 (siemens) ←
14:26:41 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)
Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF) ←
14:26:43 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:26:44 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)
Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle) ←
14:26:46 <SteveH_> +1 (Experian)
Steve Harris: +1 (Experian) ←
14:26:51 <pgearon> +1 (Revelytix)
Paul Gearon: +1 (Revelytix) ←
14:26:57 <bglimm> +1 (UUlm)
+1 (UUlm) ←
14:27:02 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/696
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/696 ←
14:27:44 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:27:52 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 Service Description as PR contingent completion of ACTION-696
RESOLVED: publish SPARQL1.1 Service Description as PR contingent completion of ACTION-696 ←
14:28:09 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: no objections, no abstentions
Axel Polleres: no objections, no abstentions ←
14:28:21 <bglimm> ... next is federated query
... next is federated query ←
14:28:22 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: federated query
14:28:32 <bglimm> ... Carlos are you on the call?
... Carlos are you on the call? ←
14:28:34 <bglimm> (silence)
(silence) ←
14:28:53 <AxelPolleres> PW-1 comment
Axel Polleres: PW-1 comment ←
14:29:13 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2012Oct/0008.html acknowledgement
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2012Oct/0008.html acknowledgement ←
14:29:22 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute cbuilara
Zakim, unmute cbuilara ←
14:29:22 <Zakim> cbuilara was not muted, bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: cbuilara was not muted, bglimm ←
14:29:24 <cbuilara> yes, I can hear you
Carlos Buil Aranda: yes, I can hear you ←
14:29:42 <cbuilara> I think we are ok too
Carlos Buil Aranda: I think we are ok too ←
14:29:47 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: CAn you type if something is still open?
Axel Polleres: CAn you type if something is still open? ←
14:29:51 <cbuilara> yes, that's right
Carlos Buil Aranda: yes, that's right ←
14:29:52 <bglimm> ... we cannot here you
... we cannot here you ←
14:30:10 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service.xml as PR
PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service.xml as PR ←
14:30:20 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:30:22 <kasei> +1 (RPI)
Gregory Williams: +1 (RPI) ←
14:30:23 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:30:26 <AxelPolleres> +1 (siemens)
Axel Polleres: +1 (siemens) ←
14:30:30 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)
Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle) ←
14:30:30 <bglimm> +1 (UUlm)
+1 (UUlm) ←
14:30:34 <chimezie> +1 (IE)
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 (IE) ←
14:30:38 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)
Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF) ←
14:30:43 <pgearon> +1 (Revelytix)
Paul Gearon: +1 (Revelytix) ←
14:30:56 <SteveH_> +1 (Experian)
Steve Harris: +1 (Experian) ←
14:31:07 <chimezie> Zakim, who is speaking?
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:31:18 <Zakim> chimezie, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AxelPolleres (10%), cbuilara (48%)
Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AxelPolleres (10%), cbuilara (48%) ←
14:31:36 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service.xml as PR
RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service.xml as PR ←
14:31:53 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: GSP
14:31:57 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: The last doc is GSP
Axel Polleres: The last doc is GSP ←
14:32:13 <AndyS> No tests.
Andy Seaborne: No tests. ←
14:32:13 <bglimm> ... Chime we wanted to check back whether CR or PR
... Chime we wanted to check back whether CR or PR ←
14:32:34 <bglimm> CHIMEZIE: WE DO HAVE A TEST, BUT NO FRAMEWORK FOR RECORDING THEM
Chimezie Ogbuji: WE DO HAVE A TEST, BUT NO FRAMEWORK FOR RECORDING THEM ←
14:32:41 <bglimm> ups upper case
ups upper case ←
14:32:49 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html#graphstoreprotocoltests
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/README.html#graphstoreprotocoltests ←
14:33:01 <AxelPolleres> links to http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/http-rdf-update/tests.txt
Axel Polleres: links to http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/http-rdf-update/tests.txt ←
14:33:05 <bglimm> AndyS: the last message said draft tests (email discussions)
Andy Seaborne: the last message said draft tests (email discussions) ←
14:33:20 <bglimm> Sandro: we don't have approved tests that means?
Sandro Hawke: we don't have approved tests that means? ←
14:33:40 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: We point to something(?) from the readme
Axel Polleres: We point to something(?) from the readme ←
14:33:42 <AndyS> "Initial draft"
Andy Seaborne: "Initial draft" ←
14:33:47 <bglimm> ... but we didn't approve anything
... but we didn't approve anything ←
14:33:59 <bglimm> ... are there any implementations that have run these tests?
... are there any implementations that have run these tests? ←
14:34:05 <AxelPolleres> Are there two implementations which have run those tests?
Axel Polleres: Are there two implementations which have run those tests? ←
14:34:16 <bglimm> AndyS: I haven't run them
Andy Seaborne: I haven't run them ←
14:34:37 <bglimm> ... it doesn't make much difference whether we go to CR or PR
... it doesn't make much difference whether we go to CR or PR ←
14:35:01 <bglimm> ... it seems to be rushing it to approve the tests
... it seems to be rushing it to approve the tests ←
14:35:09 <sandro> andy: It would seem to be rushing it to approve the tests today, and go to PR today
Andy Seaborne: It would seem to be rushing it to approve the tests today, and go to PR today [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:35:10 <bglimm> ... anyone run the tests?
... anyone run the tests? ←
14:35:18 <SteveH_> I've not run the tests, but would like to
Steve Harris: I've not run the tests, but would like to ←
14:35:32 <bglimm> Chimezie: I did, apart from one (GET PUT and POST I ran)
Chimezie Ogbuji: I did, apart from one (GET PUT and POST I ran) ←
14:36:09 <sandro> sandro: yes, I think we're ready to go to CR
Sandro Hawke: yes, I think we're ready to go to CR [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:36:09 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: We have a doc that describes the test cases, but not yet enough implementations that ran them. Is that ok for CR?
Axel Polleres: We have a doc that describes the test cases, but not yet enough implementations that ran them. Is that ok for CR? ←
14:36:15 <bglimm> Sandro: Yes
Sandro Hawke: Yes ←
14:36:30 <bglimm> ... Chime, you will make some code available to run these, right?
... Chime, you will make some code available to run these, right? ←
14:36:45 <bglimm> Chimezie: Code to run and generate EARL?
Chimezie Ogbuji: Code to run and generate EARL? ←
14:37:10 <bglimm> Sandro: Yes. Since the tests are not machine readable, it would help
Sandro Hawke: Yes. Since the tests are not machine readable, it would help ←
14:37:23 <bglimm> ... it is more like a validator instead of machine-readable tests
... it is more like a validator instead of machine-readable tests ←
14:37:31 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: chime to set up a validator for GSP tests
ACTION: chime to set up a validator for GSP tests ←
14:37:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-697 - Set up a validator for GSP tests [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2012-10-16].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-697 - Set up a validator for GSP tests [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2012-10-16]. ←
14:37:48 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ as CR
PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ as CR ←
14:37:54 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:37:58 <AxelPolleres> +1 (siemens)
Axel Polleres: +1 (siemens) ←
14:38:01 <SteveH_> +1 (Experian)
Steve Harris: +1 (Experian) ←
14:38:04 <pgearon> +1 (Revelytix)
Paul Gearon: +1 (Revelytix) ←
14:38:05 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:38:06 <bglimm> +1 (UUlm)
+1 (UUlm) ←
14:38:10 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)
Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF) ←
14:38:11 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)
Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle) ←
14:38:11 <kasei> +1 (RPI)
Gregory Williams: +1 (RPI) ←
14:38:12 <chimezie> +1 (IE)
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 (IE) ←
14:38:56 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ as CR
RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ as CR ←
14:38:58 <sandro> q+ to ask about XML Results Format
Sandro Hawke: q+ to ask about XML Results Format ←
14:39:05 <bglimm> no objections, no abstentions
no objections, no abstentions ←
14:39:24 <bglimm> Sandro: we talked after the last meeting about XML results format
Sandro Hawke: we talked after the last meeting about XML results format ←
14:39:25 <sandro> PROPOSED: Publish Proposed Edited Recommendation (stage before "Recommendation, Second Edition") of http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ with errata addressed, cross-links updated, and mentioning other results format documents (JSON, CSV, TSV).
PROPOSED: Publish Proposed Edited Recommendation (stage before "Recommendation, Second Edition") of http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ with errata addressed, cross-links updated, and mentioning other results format documents (JSON, CSV, TSV). ←
14:39:43 <bglimm> ... we could publish as PR with some errata fixed and pointers to the new specs
... we could publish as PR with some errata fixed and pointers to the new specs ←
14:40:12 <AndyS> Do we need a short name vote?
Andy Seaborne: Do we need a short name vote? ←
14:40:26 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: We could action you to do these changes and then resolve today
Axel Polleres: We could action you to do these changes and then resolve today ←
14:41:06 <bglimm> AndyS: For the other docs we chose short names for SPARQL 1.1
Andy Seaborne: For the other docs we chose short names for SPARQL 1.1 ←
14:41:14 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: sandro to implement errata on XMLres and bring it in format for proposed edited recommendation
ACTION: sandro to implement errata on XMLres and bring it in format for proposed edited recommendation ←
14:41:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-698 - Implement errata on XMLres and bring it in format for proposed edited recommendation [on Sandro Hawke - due 2012-10-16].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-698 - Implement errata on XMLres and bring it in format for proposed edited recommendation [on Sandro Hawke - due 2012-10-16]. ←
14:41:42 <bglimm> Sandro: That's only important for Rec, I'll see what other groups do and what is required
Sandro Hawke: That's only important for Rec, I'll see what other groups do and what is required ←
14:41:44 <AndyS> e.g. /sparql11-results-json/ "SPARQL 1.1 Query Results JSON Format"
Andy Seaborne: e.g. /sparql11-results-json/ "SPARQL 1.1 Query Results JSON Format" ←
14:42:02 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: sandro to clarify shortname for XMLres edited rec with W3C team
ACTION: sandro to clarify shortname for XMLres edited rec with W3C team ←
14:42:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-699 - Clarify shortname for XMLres edited rec with W3C team [on Sandro Hawke - due 2012-10-16].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-699 - Clarify shortname for XMLres edited rec with W3C team [on Sandro Hawke - due 2012-10-16]. ←
14:42:30 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: I would like somebody to review the changes on the results format doc
Axel Polleres: I would like somebody to review the changes on the results format doc ←
14:42:39 <bglimm> ... any volunteers?
... any volunteers? ←
14:42:55 <AndyS> (the boiler plate in some/all docs points to XML results at /TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/)
Andy Seaborne: (the boiler plate in some/all docs points to XML results at /TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/) ←
14:42:55 <bglimm> ... I'll do it myself
... I'll do it myself ←
14:43:08 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to review changes as per ACTION-698
ACTION: axel to review changes as per ACTION-698 ←
14:43:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-700 - Review changes as per ACTION-698 [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-10-16].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-700 - Review changes as per ACTION-698 [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-10-16]. ←
14:43:23 <sandro> PROPOSED: Publish Proposed Edited Recommendation (stage before "Recommendation, Second Edition") of http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ with errata addressed, cross-links updated, and mentioning other results format documents (JSON, CSV, TSV). Contingent on completion of ACTION-698, ACTION-699, and ACTION-700.
PROPOSED: Publish Proposed Edited Recommendation (stage before "Recommendation, Second Edition") of http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ with errata addressed, cross-links updated, and mentioning other results format documents (JSON, CSV, TSV). Contingent on completion of ACTION-698, ACTION-699, and ACTION-700. ←
14:43:49 <bglimm> +1 (UUlm)
+1 (UUlm) ←
14:43:57 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:44:02 <kasei> +1 (RPI)
Gregory Williams: +1 (RPI) ←
14:44:03 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:44:04 <AndyS> +1 (ASF)
Andy Seaborne: +1 (ASF) ←
14:44:09 <MattPerry> +1 (Oracle)
Matthew Perry: +1 (Oracle) ←
14:44:10 <SteveH_> +1 (Experian)
Steve Harris: +1 (Experian) ←
14:44:16 <pgearon> +1 (Revelytix)
Paul Gearon: +1 (Revelytix) ←
14:44:19 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish Proposed Edited Recommendation (stage before "Recommendation, Second Edition") of http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ with errata addressed, cross-links updated, and mentioning other results format documents (JSON, CSV, TSV). contingent completion of ACTION-698, ACTION-697, ACTION-700
Axel Polleres: PROPOSED: Publish Proposed Edited Recommendation (stage before "Recommendation, Second Edition") of http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ with errata addressed, cross-links updated, and mentioning other results format documents (JSON, CSV, TSV). contingent completion of ACTION-698, ACTION-697, ACTION-700 ←
14:44:29 <AndyS> (as "second edition" -- least change -- is also Ok by me)
Andy Seaborne: (as "second edition" -- least change -- is also Ok by me) ←
14:44:32 <AxelPolleres> +1 (siemens)
Axel Polleres: +1 (siemens) ←
14:44:48 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish Proposed Edited Recommendation (stage before "Recommendation, Second Edition") of http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ with errata addressed, cross-links updated, and mentioning other results format documents (JSON, CSV, TSV). Contingent on completion of ACTION-698, ACTION-699, and ACTION-700.
RESOLVED: Publish Proposed Edited Recommendation (stage before "Recommendation, Second Edition") of http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ with errata addressed, cross-links updated, and mentioning other results format documents (JSON, CSV, TSV). Contingent on completion of ACTION-698, ACTION-699, and ACTION-700. ←
14:44:57 <AxelPolleres> no objections, no abstentions.
Axel Polleres: no objections, no abstentions. ←
14:45:25 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Do we need anything from the editors?
Axel Polleres: Do we need anything from the editors? ←
14:45:43 <bglimm> Sandro: I assume every draft has a section that lists changes since LC?
Sandro Hawke: I assume every draft has a section that lists changes since LC? ←
14:45:51 <bglimm> AndyS: Yes
Andy Seaborne: Yes ←
14:45:55 <bglimm> bglimm: yes
Birte Glimm: yes ←
14:46:14 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: I am not sure we have that everywhere?
Axel Polleres: I am not sure we have that everywhere? ←
14:46:29 <AndyS> sandro -- If you need anything doing, drop the list an email and I'll do it ASAP.
Andy Seaborne: sandro -- If you need anything doing, drop the list an email and I'll do it ASAP. ←
14:46:31 <bglimm> ... can we add that we missing, possibly during the pub process?
... can we add that we missing, possibly during the pub process? ←
14:46:34 <bglimm> Sandro: Yes
Sandro Hawke: Yes ←
14:46:56 <AxelPolleres> Sandro, lee, Axel will check "Updates since LC" sections in all docs.
Axel Polleres: Sandro, lee, Axel will check "Updates since LC" sections in all docs. ←
14:47:06 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/ ←
14:47:08 <bglimm> ... Do we have a list of implementations? Or just the test results page?
... Do we have a list of implementations? Or just the test results page? ←
14:47:12 <AndyS> There is the namespace page for functions.
Andy Seaborne: There is the namespace page for functions. ←
14:47:43 <cbuilara> I have the section about the changes, but there is none, the only change was editorial (change BINDINGS for VALUES)
Carlos Buil Aranda: I have the section about the changes, but there is none, the only change was editorial (change BINDINGS for VALUES) ←
14:47:53 <sandro> that
Sandro Hawke: that ←
14:47:55 <bglimm> Sandro: We don't have emails from people about their implementations?
Sandro Hawke: We don't have emails from people about their implementations? ←
14:47:58 <sandro> that's fine cbuilara
Sandro Hawke: that's fine cbuilara ←
14:48:25 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: I don't think we have that
Axel Polleres: I don't think we have that ←
14:48:36 <bglimm> Sandro: I think we should be ok
Sandro Hawke: I think we should be ok ←
14:48:58 <bglimm> ... this implementation page is regenerated when there are new test results?
... this implementation page is regenerated when there are new test results? ←
14:49:06 <bglimm> kasei: Yes
Gregory Williams: Yes ←
14:49:17 <AxelPolleres> sandro will make a static copy of http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/ (or take it from CVS)
Axel Polleres: sandro will make a static copy of http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/ (or take it from CVS) ←
14:49:25 <bglimm> Sandro: I'll make a copy just to record the current status when moving to PR
Sandro Hawke: I'll make a copy just to record the current status when moving to PR ←
14:50:01 <chimezie> Zakim, who is talking?
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, who is talking? ←
14:50:12 <Zakim> chimezie, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AndyS (74%), bglimm (80%), Sandro (9%)
Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AndyS (74%), bglimm (80%), Sandro (9%) ←
14:50:29 <AxelPolleres> Birte: we still have to fix references to XML schema 1.1 in all docs!
Birte Glimm: we still have to fix references to XML schema 1.1 in all docs! [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:51:03 <bglimm> bglimm: we should change the ref for XML schema datatypes
Birte Glimm: we should change the ref for XML schema datatypes ←
14:51:10 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Birte to check all docs for the correct XML Schema datatypes reference
ACTION: Birte to check all docs for the correct XML Schema datatypes reference ←
14:51:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-701 - Check all docs for the correct XML Schema datatypes reference [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-10-16].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-701 - Check all docs for the correct XML Schema datatypes reference [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-10-16]. ←
14:51:15 <AxelPolleres> q?
Axel Polleres: q? ←
14:51:31 <AxelPolleres> ack sandro
Axel Polleres: ack sandro ←
14:51:31 <Zakim> sandro, you wanted to ask about XML Results Format
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, you wanted to ask about XML Results Format ←
14:51:57 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Sandro, how do we go ahead now?
Axel Polleres: Sandro, how do we go ahead now? ←
14:52:04 <bglimm> ... will you ask within W3C
... will you ask within W3C ←
14:52:15 <bglimm> Sandro: We send a transition request to the management and the chairs
Sandro Hawke: We send a transition request to the management and the chairs ←
14:52:20 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Transition_Request_Oct_2012
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Transition_Request_Oct_2012 ←
14:52:25 <bglimm> ... after a week there should be a transition meeting
... after a week there should be a transition meeting ←
14:52:45 <bglimm> ... Axel, are you available to help with this?
... Axel, are you available to help with this? ←
14:53:26 <bglimm> ... I am available today, but maybe not end of the week (? Thu, Fr)
... I am available today, but maybe not end of the week (? Thu, Fr) ←
14:54:03 <kasei> sandro?
Gregory Williams: sandro? ←
14:54:07 <pgearon> thanks all
Paul Gearon: thanks all ←
14:54:07 <Zakim> -Chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: -Chimezie ←
14:54:09 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
14:54:10 <bglimm> AxelPolleres: Thanks all
Axel Polleres: Thanks all ←
14:54:10 <Zakim> -MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry ←
14:54:11 <sandro> yes, kasei ?
Sandro Hawke: yes, kasei ? ←
14:54:11 <Zakim> -SteveH_
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH_ ←
14:54:14 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
14:54:15 <bglimm> ... meeting adjourned
... meeting adjourned ←
14:54:16 <Zakim> -cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara ←
14:54:17 <AxelPolleres> Sandro & Axel take care of sending out the transition request
Axel Polleres: Sandro & Axel take care of sending out the transition request ←
14:54:18 <Zakim> -pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: -pgearon ←
14:54:24 <AxelPolleres> big thanks to everybody!!
Axel Polleres: big thanks to everybody!! ←
14:54:26 <kasei> do you want me to re-run the implementation report today so that you know you have a current copy to preserve?
Gregory Williams: do you want me to re-run the implementation report today so that you know you have a current copy to preserve? ←
14:54:32 <Zakim> -kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei ←
14:54:35 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public
Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public ←
14:54:46 <sandro> sure, as long as the result still look good!
Sandro Hawke: sure, as long as the result still look good! ←
14:54:56 <bglimm> RRSAgent, make records public
RRSAgent, make records public ←
14:55:09 <AxelPolleres> oh, oh. we have lost rrsagent?
Axel Polleres: oh, oh. we have lost rrsagent? ←
14:55:17 <bglimm> Hm, we didn't have RRSAgent, make records public
Hm, we didn't have RRSAgent, make records public ←
14:55:19 <AndyS> ADJOURNED
Andy Seaborne: ADJOURNED ←
14:56:54 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended ←
14:56:54 <Zakim> Attendees were pgearon, AndyS, +49.897.aaaa, kasei, bglimm, MattPerry, Sandro, cbuilara, SteveH_, Chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were pgearon, AndyS, +49.897.aaaa, kasei, bglimm, MattPerry, Sandro, cbuilara, SteveH_, Chimezie ←
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