�next time, we should have all OPEN comments replied and ideally ack'ed, I will follow up individually with the responsible people to answer. goal for next time is to run through all docs and vote for publication as PR or CR, depending whether we are happy with the implementation status. we should also discuss the protocol test completeness check that Carlos did.
13:56:02 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-sparql-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/09/04-sparql-irc ←
13:56:04 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
13:56:06 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 77277 ←
13:56:06 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes ←
13:56:07 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:56:07 <trackbot> Date: 04 September 2012
13:56:16 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
13:56:16 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AxelPolleres
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AxelPolleres ←
13:56:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, AxelPolleres, LeeF, MacTed, cbuilara, AndyS, SteveH, pgearon_, pgearon, trackbot, sandro, ericP, ya, kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, AxelPolleres, LeeF, MacTed, cbuilara, AndyS, SteveH, pgearon_, pgearon, trackbot, sandro, ericP, ya, kasei ←
13:56:44 <AxelPolleres> Agenda:http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-09-04
13:57:01 <AndyS> zakim unhappy
Andy Seaborne: zakim unhappy ←
13:58:27 <AndyS> zakim is not answering the phone
Andy Seaborne: zakim is not answering the phone ←
13:58:33 <sandro> Wow. "We're sorry, due to telephone company facility trouble, your call cannot be completed". Are others getting that?
Sandro Hawke: Wow. "We're sorry, due to telephone company facility trouble, your call cannot be completed". Are others getting that? ←
13:59:00 <AxelPolleres> hmmm, I think I am in the phone.
Axel Polleres: hmmm, I think I am in the phone. ←
13:59:06 <AndyS> I just get ringing, then eventually silence - ringtones do nothing.
Andy Seaborne: I just get ringing, then eventually silence - ringtones do nothing. ←
13:59:12 <AxelPolleres> but noone else I could hear :-)
Axel Polleres: but noone else I could hear :-) ←
13:59:15 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
13:59:15 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AndyS ←
13:59:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, AxelPolleres, LeeF, MacTed, cbuilara, AndyS, SteveH, pgearon_, pgearon, trackbot, sandro, ericP, ya, kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, AxelPolleres, LeeF, MacTed, cbuilara, AndyS, SteveH, pgearon_, pgearon, trackbot, sandro, ericP, ya, kasei ←
13:59:18 <cbuilara> same here
Carlos Buil Aranda: same here ←
13:59:33 <cbuilara> I hear the ringing but nothing else
Carlos Buil Aranda: I hear the ringing but nothing else ←
13:59:43 <AxelPolleres> I hardly dare to hang up and redail...
Axel Polleres: I hardly dare to hang up and redail... ←
13:59:52 <AndyS> Axel - you are not on the phone according to zakim.
Andy Seaborne: Axel - you are not on the phone according to zakim. ←
14:00:41 <AxelPolleres> right, but I dialed in and got the usual "you are the first participant in this call"
Axel Polleres: right, but I dialed in and got the usual "you are the first participant in this call" ←
14:00:50 <AndyS> sandro - is there a W3C services status page? (I can't reach the reset button from here!)
Andy Seaborne: sandro - is there a W3C services status page? (I can't reach the reset button from here!) ←
14:01:17 <AxelPolleres> hmmm, trying to re-dial now, I got a busy sign.
Axel Polleres: hmmm, trying to re-dial now, I got a busy sign. ←
14:01:29 <SteveH> I get nothing at all
Steve Harris: I get nothing at all ←
14:02:12 <AxelPolleres> hmmmm, should we try to have a conf. on IRC only?
Axel Polleres: hmmmm, should we try to have a conf. on IRC only? ←
14:02:13 <pgearon_> I'm not having any success in dialing either
Paul Gearon: I'm not having any success in dialing either ←
14:02:37 <AndyS> trying #sysreq ...
Andy Seaborne: trying #sysreq ... ←
14:02:41 <bglimm> I also can't dial in
Birte Glimm: I also can't dial in ←
14:02:46 <pgearon> oops, wrong console. I'll log out there
Paul Gearon: oops, wrong console. I'll log out there ←
14:02:49 <AxelPolleres> strawpoll: start on chat only?
STRAWPOLL: start on chat only? ←
14:02:52 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:02:59 <sandro> Zakim is down. They're working on it.
Sandro Hawke: Zakim is down. They're working on it. ←
14:03:04 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:03:09 <AxelPolleres> (makes scribing easy at least)
Axel Polleres: (makes scribing easy at least) ←
14:03:09 <bglimm> poor Zakim
Birte Glimm: poor Zakim ←
14:03:20 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:03:21 <AndyS> IRC only.
Andy Seaborne: IRC only. ←
14:03:36 <AxelPolleres> ok, let's start
Axel Polleres: ok, let's start ←
14:03:51 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-09-04
14:03:59 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin
14:04:07 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-08-21
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-08-21 ←
14:04:10 <AxelPolleres> any support?
Axel Polleres: any support? ←
14:04:25 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
14:04:44 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-08-21
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-08-21 ←
14:04:48 <AxelPolleres> (reading no objections)
Axel Polleres: (reading no objections) ←
14:04:58 <AxelPolleres> oh my...
Axel Polleres: oh my... ←
14:05:04 <AxelPolleres> now Zakim left as well.
Axel Polleres: now Zakim left as well. ←
14:05:22 <AxelPolleres> Sandro, how are the chances that the chatlog keeps with us? (rrsagent is still here)
Axel Polleres: Sandro, how are the chances that the chatlog keeps with us? (rrsagent is still here) ←
14:05:37 <kasei> i just got through on the phone.
Gregory Williams: i just got through on the phone. ←
14:05:48 <AxelPolleres> ok, let's all try to re-dial then
Axel Polleres: ok, let's all try to re-dial then ←
14:05:52 <AxelPolleres> trackbot, start meeting
Axel Polleres: trackbot, start meeting ←
14:05:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
14:05:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be 77277 ←
14:05:56 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start 5 minutes ago
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start 5 minutes ago ←
14:05:57 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:05:58 <trackbot> Date: 04 September 2012
14:06:29 <AxelPolleres> ok, Zakim ,seems back
Axel Polleres: ok, Zakim ,seems back ←
14:07:14 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:07:14 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AxelPolleres
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AxelPolleres ←
14:07:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see bglimm, RRSAgent, AxelPolleres, LeeF, MacTed, cbuilara, AndyS, SteveH, pgearon, trackbot, sandro, ericP, ya, kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bglimm, RRSAgent, AxelPolleres, LeeF, MacTed, cbuilara, AndyS, SteveH, pgearon, trackbot, sandro, ericP, ya, kasei ←
14:07:26 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:07:26 <Zakim> sorry, bglimm, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, bglimm, I don't know what conference this is ←
14:07:39 <bglimm> Zakim, this is SPARQL
Birte Glimm: Zakim, this is SPARQL ←
14:07:39 <Zakim> ok, bglimm; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, bglimm; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM ←
14:07:45 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:07:45 <Zakim> sorry, bglimm, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, bglimm, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
14:07:53 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:07:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see +43.12.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +43.12.aaaa ←
14:07:54 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:07:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see +43.12.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +43.12.aaaa ←
14:07:57 <kasei> hmmm... i got dropped silently. redialing.
Gregory Williams: hmmm... i got dropped silently. redialing. ←
14:08:00 <cbuilara> zakim, ??aaaa is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??aaaa is me ←
14:08:00 <Zakim> sorry, cbuilara, I do not recognize a party named '??aaaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, cbuilara, I do not recognize a party named '??aaaa' ←
14:08:07 <cbuilara> zakim, .aaaa is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, .aaaa is me ←
14:08:07 <Zakim> sorry, cbuilara, I do not recognize a party named '.aaaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, cbuilara, I do not recognize a party named '.aaaa' ←
14:08:16 <cbuilara> zakim, aaaa is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, aaaa is me ←
14:08:16 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it ←
14:08:20 <AxelPolleres> maybe we just continue on chat until it stabilizes
Axel Polleres: maybe we just continue on chat until it stabilizes ←
14:08:21 <cbuilara> zakim, mute me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, mute me ←
14:08:21 <Zakim> sorry, cbuilara, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, cbuilara, muting is not permitted when only one person is present ←
14:08:32 <AxelPolleres> any support for continuing on chat?
Axel Polleres: any support for continuing on chat? ←
14:08:45 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:08:50 <AndyS> +1 to chart only for a while until it settles down
Andy Seaborne: +1 to chart only for a while until it settles down ←
14:08:55 <AndyS> +1 to chat only for a while until it settles down
Andy Seaborne: +1 to chat only for a while until it settles down ←
14:09:04 <bglimm> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Birte Glimm: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:09:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cbuilara ←
14:09:17 <AxelPolleres> Next regular meeting: 2012-09-11 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST
Axel Polleres: Next regular meeting: 2012-09-11 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST ←
14:09:19 <cbuilara> it wasn't me
Carlos Buil Aranda: it wasn't me ←
14:09:22 <kasei> weird. bglimm, axel, and I are on a phantom call.
Gregory Williams: weird. bglimm, axel, and I are on a phantom call. ←
14:09:28 <AxelPolleres> @Andy... any news from RDF WG liaison ?
Axel Polleres: @Andy... any news from RDF WG liaison ? ←
14:10:04 <AndyS> No news - RDF-WG meeting this week - restart normal schedule after the summer
Andy Seaborne: No news - RDF-WG meeting this week - restart normal schedule after the summer ←
14:10:05 <AxelPolleres> paul also on the call now
Axel Polleres: paul also on the call now ←
14:10:17 <AxelPolleres> ok
Axel Polleres: ok ←
14:10:20 <sandro> Zakim, this is sparql
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, this is sparql ←
14:10:31 <AxelPolleres> topic: test corrections
14:10:46 <Zakim> sparql matches both SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM and SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: sparql matches both SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM and SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM, sandro ←
14:10:46 <AxelPolleres> query/update tests needing corrections as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0153.html
Axel Polleres: query/update tests needing corrections as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0153.html ←
14:10:59 <AxelPolleres> ... these test cases are in relation to the BIND changes, right?
Axel Polleres: ... these test cases are in relation to the BIND changes, right? ←
14:11:13 <AxelPolleres> let's have a look at the mail
Axel Polleres: let's have a look at the mail ←
14:11:25 <AndyS> some are , some are corrections (the update ones)
Andy Seaborne: some are , some are corrections (the update ones) ←
14:11:47 <AxelPolleres> Can you elabortate whioch cases are affected by http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0135 and how?
Axel Polleres: Can you elabortate whioch cases are affected by http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0135 and how? ←
14:12:03 <AndyS> Update ones are just plain wrong as everyone seems to agree. Not sure how they sneaked in.
Andy Seaborne: Update ones are just plain wrong as everyone seems to agree. Not sure how they sneaked in. ←
14:12:15 <AxelPolleres> I see:
Axel Polleres: I see: ←
14:12:18 <AxelPolleres> www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl#dawg-delete-using-02
Axel Polleres: www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl#dawg-delete-using-02 ←
14:12:20 <AxelPolleres> and
Axel Polleres: and ←
14:12:22 <AxelPolleres> www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl#dawg-delete-using-06
Axel Polleres: www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl#dawg-delete-using-06 ←
14:12:41 <AndyS> Guess - greg and I made the same conceptual bug handling USING
Andy Seaborne: Guess - greg and I made the same conceptual bug handling USING ←
14:13:27 <AndyS> I have not changed the tests as they are marked approved. Maybe assign actions to revise today - reapprove next week.
Andy Seaborne: I have not changed the tests as they are marked approved. Maybe assign actions to revise today - reapprove next week. ←
14:13:59 <AxelPolleres> so the proposal is to disapprove www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl#dawg-delete-using-02 + 06 yes?
Axel Polleres: so the proposal is to disapprove www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl#dawg-delete-using-02 + 06 yes? ←
14:14:08 <pgearon> AndyS - I am
Paul Gearon: AndyS - I am ←
14:14:24 <AxelPolleres> on the phone: axel, birte, greg, andy, anyone else?
Axel Polleres: on the phone: axel, birte, greg, andy, anyone else? ←
14:14:41 <cbuilara> redialing
Carlos Buil Aranda: redialing ←
14:15:13 <AndyS> I can take an action to do these (and the BIND/scope ones).
Andy Seaborne: I can take an action to do these (and the BIND/scope ones). ←
14:15:19 <AxelPolleres> anybody volunteering to look into whether www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl#dawg-delete-using-02 +06 can be repaired? (for the moment they are marked as unapproved, yes?)
Axel Polleres: anybody volunteering to look into whether www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest.ttl#dawg-delete-using-02 +06 can be repaired? (for the moment they are marked as unapproved, yes?) ←
14:15:42 <AxelPolleres> thanks andy (for the BIND-scope tests)!
Axel Polleres: thanks andy (for the BIND-scope tests)! ←
14:15:49 <AxelPolleres> any volunteer for the delete tests?
Axel Polleres: any volunteer for the delete tests? ←
14:16:01 <AndyS> They are all marked approved currently - see manifests
Andy Seaborne: They are all marked approved currently - see manifests ←
14:16:06 <AndyS> I'll do all 4.
Andy Seaborne: I'll do all 4. ←
14:16:57 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Andy to unapprove test cases as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0153.html and attempt to fix them until next telco
ACTION: Andy to unapprove test cases as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0153.html and attempt to fix them until next telco ←
14:16:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-675 - Unapprove test cases as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0153.html and attempt to fix them until next telco [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-09-11].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-675 - Unapprove test cases as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0153.html and attempt to fix them until next telco [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-09-11]. ←
14:17:07 <AxelPolleres> thanks, andy!
Axel Polleres: thanks, andy! ←
14:17:22 <AxelPolleres> topic: Comments
14:17:44 <AxelPolleres> goal for today is to - ideally - close all open comments on rec track docs
Axel Polleres: goal for today is to - ideally - close all open comments on rec track docs ←
14:18:18 <AxelPolleres> we have 7 marked open, as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0156.html
Axel Polleres: we have 7 marked open, as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0156.html ←
14:18:41 <AxelPolleres> let's look them through on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
Axel Polleres: let's look them through on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments ←
14:19:11 <AxelPolleres> draft for HK-4+JC-6 is here: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:HK-5
Axel Polleres: draft for HK-4+JC-6 is here: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:HK-5 ←
14:19:21 <AxelPolleres> ok to send? (needs one more approval)
Axel Polleres: ok to send? (needs one more approval) ←
14:19:51 <AndyS> HK-4 (BIND) -- drafted, has one +1 : might be good for WG to formally accept the changes.
Andy Seaborne: HK-4 (BIND) -- drafted, has one +1 : might be good for WG to formally accept the changes. ←
14:20:10 <AxelPolleres> this is the joint response to the to HK-4 and JC-6, yes?
Axel Polleres: this is the joint response to the to HK-4 and JC-6, yes? ←
14:20:21 <AndyS> Yes - it's the same comment.
Andy Seaborne: Yes - it's the same comment. ←
14:20:21 <kasei> +1 on HK-5
Gregory Williams: +1 on HK-5 ←
14:20:33 <LeeF> I'm working on RC-2 response while semi-monitoring IRC, FYI
Lee Feigenbaum: I'm working on RC-2 response while semi-monitoring IRC, FYI ←
14:20:47 <AndyS> (s/HK-4/HK-5/g !!!)
Andy Seaborne: (s/HK-4/HK-5/g !!!) ←
14:21:01 <AxelPolleres> so, http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:HK-5 ok to send from my side, then.
Axel Polleres: so, http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:HK-5 ok to send from my side, then. ←
14:21:08 <bglimm> `1
Birte Glimm: `1 ←
14:21:11 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:21:21 <AxelPolleres> Andy, will you send it off?
Axel Polleres: Andy, will you send it off? ←
14:21:23 <AndyS> Ack - will send.
Andy Seaborne: Ack - will send. ←
14:21:29 <AxelPolleres> next one is BB-1
Axel Polleres: next one is BB-1 ←
14:21:42 <AxelPolleres> draft here: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:BB-1
Axel Polleres: draft here: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:BB-1 ←
14:22:11 <AndyS> +1 to send response
Andy Seaborne: +1 to send response ←
14:22:15 <AxelPolleres> one more?
Axel Polleres: one more? ←
14:23:16 <AxelPolleres> all, please feel free to read BB-1 now and (hopefully we'll get another +1 ;-))
Axel Polleres: all, please feel free to read BB-1 now and (hopefully we'll get another +1 ;-)) ←
14:24:25 <bglimm> Shouldn't the last example have a FROM NAMED <http://ex.com#g1>?
Birte Glimm: Shouldn't the last example have a FROM NAMED <http://ex.com#g1>? ←
14:24:34 <AxelPolleres> ok steve, pls don't forget to ping re:DBeckett-1 for an ack as discussed in mail offline
Axel Polleres: ok steve, pls don't forget to ping re:DBeckett-1 for an ack as discussed in mail offline ←
14:24:46 <AxelPolleres> bglimm, just a second...
Axel Polleres: bglimm, just a second... ←
14:25:46 <AxelPolleres> ... well, no, this is assuming that g1 is in the default dataset (probably I should say that)
Axel Polleres: ... well, no, this is assuming that g1 is in the default dataset (probably I should say that) ←
14:26:20 <bglimm> Yes, saying that might help
Birte Glimm: Yes, saying that might help ←
14:26:22 <cbuilara> +1
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 ←
14:26:38 <cbuilara> (I read it quickly and it seems ok to me)
Carlos Buil Aranda: (I read it quickly and it seems ok to me) ←
14:26:41 <bglimm> other than that +1
Birte Glimm: other than that +1 ←
14:26:59 <AxelPolleres> ok, look here:
Axel Polleres: ok, look here: ←
14:27:07 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/index.php?title=CommentResponse%3ABB-1&diff=4915&oldid=4910
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/index.php?title=CommentResponse%3ABB-1&diff=4915&oldid=4910 ←
14:27:31 <AxelPolleres> waiting for ack from Birte...
Axel Polleres: waiting for ack from Birte... ←
14:27:51 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to send off response to BB-1
ACTION: Axel to send off response to BB-1 ←
14:27:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-676 - Send off response to BB-1 [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-09-11].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-676 - Send off response to BB-1 [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-09-11]. ←
14:28:11 <AxelPolleres> sandro, are you here?
Axel Polleres: sandro, are you here? ←
14:28:35 <bglimm> yes, my ack was +1 modulo the addition of the small comment you mentioned
Birte Glimm: yes, my ack was +1 modulo the addition of the small comment you mentioned ←
14:28:45 <AxelPolleres> done, birte, thanks
Axel Polleres: done, birte, thanks ←
14:29:45 <AxelPolleres> I pinged sandro offline on the status of JL-4
Axel Polleres: I pinged sandro offline on the status of JL-4 ←
14:30:06 <bglimm> ok
Birte Glimm: ok ←
14:31:13 <AxelPolleres> lee, how's RC-2 doing?
Axel Polleres: lee, how's RC-2 doing? ←
14:32:16 <sandro> (I moved LJ-4 along, but it's not resolved yet.)
Sandro Hawke: (I moved LJ-4 along, but it's not resolved yet.) ←
14:32:28 <AxelPolleres> chime sent regrets for today, I pinged him on mail for his open comments.
Axel Polleres: chime sent regrets for today, I pinged him on mail for his open comments. ←
14:32:42 <AxelPolleres> sandro, did you contact him offline?
Axel Polleres: sandro, did you contact him offline? ←
14:33:12 <AxelPolleres> ah, sorry, no more open comments from chime.
Axel Polleres: ah, sorry, no more open comments from chime. ←
14:33:27 <AxelPolleres> yes, we have all open comments through, I think
Axel Polleres: yes, we have all open comments through, I think ←
14:33:33 <AxelPolleres> topic: actions
Summary: �next time, we should have all OPEN comments replied and ideally ack'ed, I will follow up individually with the responsible people to answer. goal for next time is to run through all docs and vote for publication as PR or CR, depending whether we are happy with the implementation status. we should also discuss the protocol test completeness check that Carlos did.
14:34:33 <sandro> AxelPolleres, no, I kept the comments list cc'd
Sandro Hawke: AxelPolleres, no, I kept the comments list cc'd ←
14:34:47 <sandro> but the w3c network is messed up this morning.
Sandro Hawke: but the w3c network is messed up this morning. ←
14:34:54 <AxelPolleres> action-674 continued
Axel Polleres: ACTION-674 continued ←
14:34:55 <AndyS> (comments JC-4, JC-5 can be marked done then?)
Andy Seaborne: (comments JC-4, JC-5 can be marked done then?) ←
14:35:39 <AxelPolleres> Andy, ah ,right, that was what I had contacted Chime for on email.
Axel Polleres: Andy, ah ,right, that was what I had contacted Chime for on email. ←
14:35:46 <AndyS> Ack
Andy Seaborne: Ack ←
14:35:53 <AxelPolleres> he had promised to follow up in the call two weeks ago.
Axel Polleres: he had promised to follow up in the call two weeks ago. ←
14:36:01 <AxelPolleres> so, let's keep them open
Axel Polleres: so, let's keep them open ←
14:36:19 <LeeF> RC-2 is drafted
Lee Feigenbaum: RC-2 is drafted ←
14:36:23 <AxelPolleres> sandro, ok, so we keep JL-4 open atm.
Axel Polleres: sandro, ok, so we keep JL-4 open atm. ←
14:36:26 <LeeF> but Greg needs to ask Andy something
Lee Feigenbaum: but Greg needs to ask Andy something ←
14:36:37 <AxelPolleres> lee., can you paste the link?
Axel Polleres: lee., can you paste the link? ←
14:36:53 <AndyS> greg - Q?
Andy Seaborne: greg - Q? ←
14:37:55 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RC-2
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RC-2 ←
14:38:38 <AxelPolleres> +1 to http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RC-2
Axel Polleres: +1 to http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RC-2 ←
14:38:45 <AxelPolleres> anybody else?
Axel Polleres: anybody else? ←
14:39:05 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:39:06 <AxelPolleres> (to support http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RC-2, I mean)
Axel Polleres: (to support http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RC-2, I mean) ←
14:39:22 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:39:24 <AxelPolleres> fine, leef, ok to send off RC-2, pls ack
Axel Polleres: fine, leef, ok to send off RC-2, pls ack ←
14:39:39 <AxelPolleres> back to actions...
Axel Polleres: back to actions... ←
14:40:06 <AxelPolleres> AndyS, action-673 can be closed, right?
Axel Polleres: AndyS, ACTION-673 can be closed, right? ←
14:40:54 <kasei> actions 661, 662, and 664 can be closed.
Gregory Williams: actions 661, 662, and 664 can be closed. ←
14:41:03 <AndyS> yes - close it
Andy Seaborne: yes - close it ←
14:41:12 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-673
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-673 ←
14:41:12 <trackbot> ACTION-673 Fix the LC3 spec as per the proposal in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0123.html closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-673 Fix the LC3 spec as per the proposal in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0123.html closed ←
14:41:17 <AndyS> close ACTION-673
Andy Seaborne: close ACTION-673 ←
14:41:17 <trackbot> ACTION-673 Fix the LC3 spec as per the proposal in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0123.html closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-673 Fix the LC3 spec as per the proposal in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0123.html closed ←
14:41:26 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-661
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-661 ←
14:41:26 <trackbot> ACTION-661 Confirm Andy's change to the grammar, and run the tests closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-661 Confirm Andy's change to the grammar, and run the tests closed ←
14:41:45 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-662
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-662 ←
14:41:45 <trackbot> ACTION-662 Record unapprovals closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-662 Record unapprovals closed ←
14:41:56 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-664
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-664 ←
14:41:56 <trackbot> ACTION-664 Mark the Sd tests as approved closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-664 Mark the Sd tests as approved closed ←
14:42:18 <AxelPolleres> carlos, you sent a mail on ACTION-672, right?
Axel Polleres: carlos, you sent a mail on ACTION-672, right? ←
14:42:33 <cbuilara> yes, I will re send it
Carlos Buil Aranda: yes, I will re send it ←
14:42:43 <cbuilara> as for closing ACTION-672
Carlos Buil Aranda: as for closing ACTION-672 ←
14:42:58 <AxelPolleres> sandro, ACTION-670 can be closed, or no? (think I remember I saw the mail) ... any news from RIF?
Axel Polleres: sandro, ACTION-670 can be closed, or no? (think I remember I saw the mail) ... any news from RIF? ←
14:44:07 <AxelPolleres> discussion of ACTION-672, cf. thread http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0164.html
Axel Polleres: discussion of ACTION-672, cf. thread http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0164.html ←
14:44:18 <AxelPolleres> ACTION-672 cf. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0164.html
Axel Polleres: ACTION-672 cf. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0164.html ←
14:44:33 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-672
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-672 ←
14:44:33 <trackbot> ACTION-672 look over protocol test cases for completeness closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-672 look over protocol test cases for completeness closed ←
14:45:34 <AxelPolleres> let us discuss this next time, along with going through all docs - ideally voting for re-publications as PR/CR
Axel Polleres: let us discuss this next time, along with going through all docs - ideally voting for re-publications as PR/CR ←
14:45:49 <LeeF> OK, I'll send RC-2 as is
Lee Feigenbaum: OK, I'll send RC-2 as is ←
14:45:59 <AxelPolleres> great!
Axel Polleres: great! ←
14:47:37 <AxelPolleres> www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/open
Axel Polleres: www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/open ←
14:48:04 <bglimm> I just work on my action to reach out to implementers by writing to Kendall...
Birte Glimm: I just work on my action to reach out to implementers by writing to Kendall... ←
14:48:31 <AxelPolleres> greg, isn't http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/631 to be closed as well?
Axel Polleres: greg, isn't http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/631 to be closed as well? ←
14:48:49 <AxelPolleres> birte, any news regarding implementations?
Axel Polleres: birte, any news regarding implementations? ←
14:49:18 <kasei> AxelPolleres, 631 is still in progress. so it could be closed, but I'd just as soon see it left open until we finish that work.
Gregory Williams: AxelPolleres, 631 is still in progress. so it could be closed, but I'd just as soon see it left open until we finish that work. ←
14:49:36 <kasei> since I haven't addressed all of Andy's feedback on those tests yet.
Gregory Williams: since I haven't addressed all of Andy's feedback on those tests yet. ←
14:49:44 <AxelPolleres> birte, given also that we don't have feedback on RIF entailment implementaitons yet, I guess we will progress to CR rather than PR with Entailment, let's see what we have next week.
Axel Polleres: birte, given also that we don't have feedback on RIF entailment implementaitons yet, I guess we will progress to CR rather than PR with Entailment, let's see what we have next week. ←
14:49:49 <AxelPolleres> gre, ok, thanks.
Axel Polleres: gre, ok, thanks. ←
14:50:13 <bglimm> Jeff Pan (and his guys) and Michael Schneider are currently implementing
Birte Glimm: Jeff Pan (and his guys) and Michael Schneider are currently implementing ←
14:50:21 <bglimm> Yes, definitely CR
Birte Glimm: Yes, definitely CR ←
14:50:29 <AxelPolleres> carlos, I think ACTION-643 can be closed
Axel Polleres: carlos, I think ACTION-643 can be closed ←
14:50:33 <AxelPolleres> right?
Axel Polleres: right? ←
14:50:51 <cbuilara> yes
Carlos Buil Aranda: yes ←
14:50:52 <bglimm> I'm also working on getting test reports out for HermiT and the OWL DS regime
Birte Glimm: I'm also working on getting test reports out for HermiT and the OWL DS regime ←
14:51:01 <cbuilara> I sent an email while ago, I'm looking for it
Carlos Buil Aranda: I sent an email while ago, I'm looking for it ←
14:51:04 <AxelPolleres> IIRC, paul mentioned that the review was processed already... carlos, do you have the link to the review mail at hand?
Axel Polleres: IIRC, paul mentioned that the review was processed already... carlos, do you have the link to the review mail at hand? ←
14:52:08 <AxelPolleres> please paste the link (would like to update to_pr page and the ACTION accordingly, before I mark it closed)
Axel Polleres: please paste the link (would like to update to_pr page and the ACTION accordingly, before I mark it closed) ←
14:52:13 <cbuilara> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0065.html
Carlos Buil Aranda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012JulSep/0065.html ←
14:53:58 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-643
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-643 ←
14:53:59 <trackbot> ACTION-643 Review update closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-643 Review update closed ←
14:54:38 <AxelPolleres> I think that's mostly all we can do for today.
Axel Polleres: I think that's mostly all we can do for today. ←
14:54:51 <AxelPolleres> AOB?
Axel Polleres: AOB? ←
14:56:43 <AxelPolleres> next time, we should have all OPEN comments replied and ideally ack'ed, I will follow up individually with the responsible people to answer. goal for next time is to run through all docs and vote for publication as PR or CR, depending whether we are happy with the implementation status. we should also discuss the protocol test completeness check that Carlos did.
Axel Polleres: next time, we should have all OPEN comments replied and ideally ack'ed, I will follow up individually with the responsible people to answer. goal for next time is to run through all docs and vote for publication as PR or CR, depending whether we are happy with the implementation status. we should also discuss the protocol test completeness check that Carlos did. ←
14:57:05 <AxelPolleres> hope all agree with that plan, anything more for next time?
Axel Polleres: hope all agree with that plan, anything more for next time? ←
14:57:20 <bglimm> I won't be able to join next week
Birte Glimm: I won't be able to join next week ←
14:57:44 <bglimm> I can write some status email before the telco
Birte Glimm: I can write some status email before the telco ←
14:58:08 <AxelPolleres> birte, please update us on anything entailment-relevant beforehand and - ideally - let us know your votes to publish per document per mail
Axel Polleres: birte, please update us on anything entailment-relevant beforehand and - ideally - let us know your votes to publish per document per mail ←
14:58:12 <AxelPolleres> thanks
Axel Polleres: thanks ←
14:58:20 <bglimm> will do
Birte Glimm: will do ←
14:58:23 <AxelPolleres> summary: �next time, we should have all OPEN comments replied and ideally ack'ed, I will follow up individually with the responsible people to answer. goal for next time is to run through all docs and vote for publication as PR or CR, depending whether we are happy with the implementation status. we should also discuss the protocol test completeness check that Carlos did.
14:58:29 <AxelPolleres> thanks all, adjourned.
Axel Polleres: thanks all, adjourned. ←
14:58:58 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public
Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public ←
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