SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 29 November 2011

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-11-29
Seen
Andy Seaborne, Axel Polleres, Birte Glimm, Carlos Buil Aranda, Chimezie Ogbuji, Gregory Williams, Lee Feigenbaum, Matthew Perry, Olivier Corby, Paul Gearon, Sandro Hawke
Regrets
Carlos Buil Aranda, Sandro Hawke, Olivier Corby
Chair
Axel Polleres
Scribe
Lee Feigenbaum
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-11-22 link
Topics
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14:57:58 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

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14:57:58 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes

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14:57:59 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:57:59 <trackbot> Date: 29 November 2011
14:58:08 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:58:08 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has not yet started, AxelPolleres

14:58:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, chimezie, AxelPolleres, MacTed, iv_an_ru, LeeF, mox601, AndyS, SteveH, pgearon, NickH, ya, ericP, trackbot, sandro, kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, chimezie, AxelPolleres, MacTed, iv_an_ru, LeeF, mox601, AndyS, SteveH, pgearon, NickH, ya, ericP, trackbot, sandro, kasei

14:59:00 <AndyS> zakim, this is SPARQL

Andy Seaborne: zakim, this is SPARQL

14:59:00 <Zakim> ok, AndyS; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, AndyS; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

14:59:08 <Zakim> +kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: +kasei

14:59:09 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

14:59:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see AxelPolleres_?, [IPcaller], kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AxelPolleres_?, [IPcaller], kasei

14:59:18 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPCaller is me

14:59:19 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:59:26 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it

14:59:28 <pgearon> dialing in now

Paul Gearon: dialing in now

14:59:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see AxelPolleres_?, AndyS, kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AxelPolleres_?, AndyS, kasei

14:59:45 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, AxelPolleres_? is me

Axel Polleres: Zakim, AxelPolleres_? is me

14:59:45 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AxelPolleres; got it

15:00:15 <Zakim> +chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: +chimezie

15:00:26 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

15:00:38 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should now be muted

15:00:46 <chimezie> Zakim who is on the phone?

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim who is on the phone?

15:01:02 <Zakim> +pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon

15:01:08 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-11-29
15:01:13 <Zakim> +MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry

15:01:16 <AxelPolleres> chair: axel polleres
15:01:53 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:01:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see AxelPolleres, AndyS, kasei, chimezie (muted), pgearon, MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AxelPolleres, AndyS, kasei, chimezie (muted), pgearon, MattPerry

15:02:26 <Zakim> +LeeF

Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF

15:02:28 <sandro> AxelPolleres, sorry, last minute likely regrets.     I may be able to join in a  few minutes.

Sandro Hawke: AxelPolleres, sorry, last minute likely regrets. I may be able to join in a few minutes.

15:03:05 <LeeF> scribe: LeeF

(Scribe set to Lee Feigenbaum)

15:03:26 <AxelPolleres> regrets: carlos, sandro, olivier
15:04:24 <LeeF> AxelPolleres: will look at post last call wiki for status of documents, then open comments

Axel Polleres: will look at post last call wiki for status of documents, then open comments

15:04:28 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin

1. admin

15:04:29 <LeeF> topic: Admin

2. Admin

15:04:46 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-11-22

PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-11-22

15:05:10 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-11-22

RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-11-22

15:05:40 <AxelPolleres> paul, can scribenext week

Axel Polleres: paul, can scribenext week

15:06:29 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: Liaison RDF WG

2.1. Liaison RDF WG

15:06:49 <AxelPolleres> Andy in contact with Eric on Turtle issues

Axel Polleres: Andy in contact with Eric on Turtle issues

15:07:16 <AxelPolleres> topic: next publication round

3. next publication round

15:07:43 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall

15:07:43 <LeeF> subtopic: Query

3.1. Query

15:08:08 <LeeF> AndyS: Main block is discussion on the algebra for aggregation

Andy Seaborne: Main block is discussion on the algebra for aggregation

15:08:27 <AxelPolleres> regrets also from steve, main block algebra from aggregation, actively discussed on email

Axel Polleres: regrets also from steve, main block algebra from aggregation, actively discussed on email

15:09:55 <LeeF> kasei: haven't reviewed 18 yet

Gregory Williams: haven't reviewed 18 yet

15:10:03 <LeeF> AndyS: there is a non-zero chance that the doc will be ready for next week, but not sure

Andy Seaborne: there is a non-zero chance that the doc will be ready for next week, but not sure

15:10:18 <LeeF> AndyS: need to sync with SteveH on algebra

Andy Seaborne: need to sync with SteveH on algebra

15:10:22 <LeeF> ... don't think it's too bad

... don't think it's too bad

15:11:18 <Zakim> +??P30

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30

15:11:25 <AxelPolleres> topic: update

4. update

15:11:29 <bglimm> Zakim, ??P30 is me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, ??P30 is me

15:11:29 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm; got it

15:11:36 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

15:11:36 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

15:12:00 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Update

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/PostLastCall#Update

15:12:00 <LeeF> MattPerry: is the docment ready for review?

Matthew Perry: is the docment ready for review?

15:12:02 <LeeF> AxelPolleres: Yes

Axel Polleres: Yes

15:12:06 <LeeF> AxelPolleres: Anything else, Paul?

Axel Polleres: Anything else, Paul?

15:12:15 <LeeF> pgearon: OK to review

Paul Gearon: OK to review

15:12:45 <AxelPolleres> Matt strives to complete review by next week

Axel Polleres: Matt strives to complete review by next week

15:12:59 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

15:12:59 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

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15:13:07 <LeeF> topic: Entailment

5. Entailment

15:13:07 <AxelPolleres> topic: entailment

6. entailment

15:13:10 <LeeF> AxelPolleres: my review is missing

Axel Polleres: my review is missing

15:13:19 <LeeF> bglimm: i've addressed nearly everything from Markus's review

Birte Glimm: i've addressed nearly everything from Markus's review

15:13:27 <LeeF> ... need to review a namespace URI for OWL full with Sandro / Ivan

... need to review a namespace URI for OWL full with Sandro / Ivan

15:13:29 <LeeF> ... will write an email

... will write an email

15:14:14 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me

15:14:14 <Zakim> chimezie should no longer be muted

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15:14:17 <AxelPolleres> topic: service description

7. service description

15:14:34 <LeeF> chimezie: will review before next week

Chimezie Ogbuji: will review before next week

15:14:37 <LeeF> AxelPolleres: same for me

Axel Polleres: same for me

15:14:38 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

15:14:38 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

15:14:48 <LeeF> topic: graph store protocol

8. graph store protocol

15:15:07 <LeeF> chimezie: got a thorough review from Sandro & hoping to go through it and make changes

Chimezie Ogbuji: got a thorough review from Sandro & hoping to go through it and make changes

15:15:11 <LeeF> ... also need to look at comments from James Leigh

... also need to look at comments from James Leigh

15:15:19 <LeeF> ... changes probably not substantive

... changes probably not substantive

15:15:23 <LeeF> ... will know by next week

... will know by next week

15:15:50 <LeeF> AndyS: i've printed out the g.s.p. document to mark up :-)

Andy Seaborne: i've printed out the g.s.p. document to mark up :-)

15:15:59 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

15:15:59 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should now be muted

15:16:00 <LeeF> topic: Protocol

9. Protocol

15:17:09 <LeeF> LeeF: Andy is going to re-check 2.3.3 and other than that the document needs to have references updated

Lee Feigenbaum: Andy is going to re-check 2.3.3 and other than that the document needs to have references updated

15:17:14 <LeeF> AxelPolleres: reviews?

Axel Polleres: reviews?

15:17:16 <LeeF> LeeF: alreayd completed

Lee Feigenbaum: alreayd completed

15:17:21 <LeeF> topic: comments

10. comments

15:17:25 <LeeF> AxelPolleres: two new comments

Axel Polleres: two new comments

15:18:26 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me

15:18:26 <Zakim> chimezie should no longer be muted

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15:21:08 <chimezie> lets break the record!

Chimezie Ogbuji: lets break the record!

15:21:20 <AxelPolleres> AOB?

Axel Polleres: AOB?

15:21:50 <bglimm> +1 to Axel, will also start Query review

Birte Glimm: +1 to Axel, will also start Query review

15:21:51 <kasei> I'd like to close ACTION 532 if that's OK.

Gregory Williams: I'd like to close ACTION-532 if that's OK.

15:21:57 <LeeF> ACTION-532?

ACTION-532?

15:21:58 <trackbot> ACTION-532 -- Gregory Williams to look into how to generate a script that auto-generates a test cases overview page like we had for http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/r2 -- due 2011-09-27 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-532 -- Gregory Williams to look into how to generate a script that auto-generates a test cases overview page like we had for http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/r2 -- due 2011-09-27 -- OPEN

15:21:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/532

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/532

15:21:59 <Zakim> -chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: -chimezie

15:22:02 <LeeF> close ACTION-532

close ACTION-532

15:22:02 <trackbot> ACTION-532 Look into how to generate a script that auto-generates a test cases overview page like we had for http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/r2 closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-532 Look into how to generate a script that auto-generates a test cases overview page like we had for http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/r2 closed

15:22:10 <kasei> thanks

Gregory Williams: thanks

15:22:12 <LeeF> sure

sure

15:22:22 <bglimm> bye

Birte Glimm: bye

15:22:22 <Zakim> -LeeF

Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF

15:22:23 <AxelPolleres> adjourned

Axel Polleres: adjourned

15:22:24 <Zakim> -MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry

15:22:29 <AndyS> Leef?

Andy Seaborne: Leef?

15:22:34 <Zakim> -bglimm

Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm

15:22:46 <Zakim> -pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: -pgearon

15:22:48 <Zakim> -AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS

15:22:54 <Zakim> -kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei

15:22:56 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public

Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public

15:23:20 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: -AxelPolleres

15:23:22 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

15:23:23 <Zakim> Attendees were +49.897.aaaa, kasei, AndyS, AxelPolleres, chimezie, pgearon, MattPerry, LeeF, bglimm

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +49.897.aaaa, kasei, AndyS, AxelPolleres, chimezie, pgearon, MattPerry, LeeF, bglimm

15:40:00 <kasei> AndyS: do you have a minute for a quick question about the Algebra section?

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Andy Seaborne: do you have a minute for a quick question about the Algebra section? [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Williams ]

15:53:02 <kasei> I was glancing at 18.2, and am confused not to see any aggregate-related items in the table of Algebra symbols (just above 18.2.1)

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Gregory Williams: I was glancing at 18.2, and am confused not to see any aggregate-related items in the table of Algebra symbols (just above 18.2.1)

15:54:51 <LeeF> close ACTION-565

close ACTION-565

15:54:52 <trackbot> ACTION-565 Check revised 2.2.3 in protocol doc http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/Overview.xml#update-dataset closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-565 Check revised 2.2.3 in protocol doc http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/Overview.xml#update-dataset closed

15:55:10 <kasei> was expecting at least Group() and Aggregation()

Gregory Williams: was expecting at least Group() and Aggregation()

16:01:50 <AndyS> kasei,  good point .. ... have added them (Group, AggregateJoin)

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Andy Seaborne: kasei, good point .. ... have added them (Group, AggregateJoin)



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