SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 16 August 2011

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0186.html
Seen
Alexandre Passant, Andy Seaborne, Axel Polleres, Birte Glimm, Carlos Buil Aranda, Chimezie Ogbuji, Gregory Williams, Lee Feigenbaum, Matthew Perry, Olivier Corby, Paul Gearon
Regrets
Chimezie Ogbuji
Chair
Axel Polleres
Scribe
Olivier Corby
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. approve minutes from last TC http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-08-09 link
  2. Approve :jsonres01 - :jsonres04 test cases in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/json-res/ link
  3. approve csv01-csv03 and tsv01-tsv03 modulo changing "1"^^xsd:decimal with "1"^^xsd:string in data2.ttl link
Topics
13:56:38 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/08/16-sparql-irc

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13:56:42 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

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13:56:43 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:56:43 <trackbot> Date: 16 August 2011
13:56:59 <AxelPolleres> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0186.html
13:57:58 <AndyS> zakim super slow today.

Andy Seaborne: zakim super slow today.

13:58:14 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

13:58:14 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS, I don't know what conference this is

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13:58:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Olivier, cbuilara, AxelPolleres, LeeF, AndyS, iv_an_ru, kasei, trackbot, NickH, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Olivier, cbuilara, AxelPolleres, LeeF, AndyS, iv_an_ru, kasei, trackbot, NickH, ericP

13:58:19 <AxelPolleres> regrets: chime
13:58:28 <AndyS> zakim, this is SPARQL

Andy Seaborne: zakim, this is SPARQL

13:58:28 <Zakim> ok, AndyS; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, AndyS; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM

13:58:34 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

13:58:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P10, ??P13

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P10, ??P13

13:58:37 <AxelPolleres> chair: Axel Polleres
13:58:41 <AndyS> zakim, ??P10 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P10 is me

13:58:43 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P13 is me

Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P13 is me

13:58:46 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it

13:58:47 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it

13:58:59 <Zakim> +kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: +kasei

13:59:42 <Zakim> +[Sophia]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[Sophia]

13:59:53 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

13:59:54 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: +AxelPolleres

14:00:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, cbuilara, kasei, [Sophia], AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, cbuilara, kasei, [Sophia], AxelPolleres

14:00:25 <AxelPolleres> [Sophia] .... is that Olivier?

Axel Polleres: [Sophia] .... is that Olivier?

14:01:05 <Zakim> +MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry

14:01:06 <AxelPolleres> scribe: Olivier

(Scribe set to Olivier Corby)

14:01:49 <Olivier> [Sophia] is Olivier

[Sophia] is Olivier

14:02:09 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:02:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, cbuilara, kasei, [Sophia], AxelPolleres, MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, cbuilara, kasei, [Sophia], AxelPolleres, MattPerry

14:02:11 <AndyS> zakim, [Sophia] is temporarily Olivier

Andy Seaborne: zakim, [Sophia] is temporarily Olivier

14:02:11 <Zakim> +Olivier; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Olivier; got it

14:02:42 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin

1. admin

14:02:49 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0186.html
14:03:04 <Zakim> +LeeF

Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF

14:03:36 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: approve minutes from last TC http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-08-09

PROPOSED: approve minutes from last TC http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-08-09

14:04:24 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: approve minutes from last TC http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-08-09

RESOLVED: approve minutes from last TC http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-08-09

14:05:46 <bglimm> Zakim, passcode?

Birte Glimm: Zakim, passcode?

14:05:52 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), bglimm

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), bglimm

14:05:54 <AxelPolleres> next weeks regrets Birte, Andy, Axel, sandro, Alex...

Axel Polleres: next weeks regrets Birte, Andy, Axel, sandro, Alex...

14:05:57 <Zakim> + +3539149aaaa

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14:06:03 <alexpassant> Zakim, +3539149aaaa is me

Alexandre Passant: Zakim, +3539149aaaa is me

14:06:04 <Zakim> +alexpassant; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +alexpassant; got it

14:06:14 <AxelPolleres> next TC is supposed to be 23rd.

Axel Polleres: next TC is supposed to be 23rd.

14:06:18 <Zakim> + +44.186.598.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.186.598.aabb

14:06:29 <bglimm> Zakim, +44.186.598.aabb is me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, +44.186.598.aabb is me

14:06:29 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm; got it

14:06:34 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

14:06:34 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

14:06:58 <MattPerry> I can do it

Matthew Perry: I can do it

14:07:15 <AxelPolleres> matt to scribe next week...

Axel Polleres: matt to scribe next week...

14:07:32 <AxelPolleres> topic: liason with RDF

2. liason with RDF

14:08:06 <Zakim> +pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon

14:08:15 <AxelPolleres> issues at the moment around escape sequences, relates to richard's comment

Axel Polleres: issues at the moment around escape sequences, relates to richard's comment

14:08:22 <AndyS> See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Aug/0010.html

Andy Seaborne: See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Aug/0010.html

14:08:49 <AxelPolleres>  1) continue on test case coverage,

Axel Polleres: 1) continue on test case coverage,

14:08:50 <AxelPolleres>  2) try to approve some of the new test cases and

Axel Polleres: 2) try to approve some of the new test cases and

14:08:50 <AxelPolleres>  3) look at the status of documents/publishing

Axel Polleres: 3) look at the status of documents/publishing

14:08:50 <AxelPolleres>  4) look over open actions and comments

Axel Polleres: 4) look over open actions and comments

14:09:01 <AxelPolleres> topic: test coverage

3. test coverage

14:09:12 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage

14:09:45 <bglimm> q+ to ask when we can discuss Michael Schneider's comments

Birte Glimm: q+ to ask when we can discuss Michael Schneider's comments

14:09:54 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

14:09:54 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted

14:10:00 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

14:10:00 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

14:10:12 <Olivier> federated query test

federated query test

14:10:19 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#Federated_Query

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#Federated_Query

14:10:52 <Olivier> still need to be populated

still need to be populated

14:11:00 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: carlos to complete http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#Federated_Query on what's missing on coverage

ACTION: carlos to complete http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#Federated_Query on what's missing on coverage

14:11:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-520 - Complete http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#Federated_Query on what's missing on coverage [on Carlos Buil Aranda - due 2011-08-23].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-520 - Complete http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#Federated_Query on what's missing on coverage [on Carlos Buil Aranda - due 2011-08-23].

14:11:21 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#JSON_Results

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#JSON_Results

14:11:30 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#TSV.2FCSV_Results

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#TSV.2FCSV_Results

14:12:09 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/json-res/

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/json-res/

14:13:01 <AxelPolleres> :jsonres01� - :jsonres04�

Axel Polleres: :jsonres01� - :jsonres04�

14:13:18 <kasei> I pass all json tests

Gregory Williams: I pass all json tests

14:13:54 <Olivier> 3 implementations for JSON

3 implementations for JSON

14:14:01 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve :jsonres01 - :jsonres04 test cases in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/json-res/

PROPOSED: Approve :jsonres01 - :jsonres04 test cases in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/json-res/

14:14:04 <kasei> +1

Gregory Williams: +1

14:14:10 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

14:14:12 <Olivier> +1

+1

14:14:18 <MattPerry> +1

Matthew Perry: +1

14:14:27 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve :jsonres01 - :jsonres04 test cases in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/json-res/

RESOLVED: Approve :jsonres01 - :jsonres04 test cases in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/json-res/

14:14:52 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: to update test case status for  :jsonres01 - :jsonres04

ACTION: to update test case status for :jsonres01 - :jsonres04

14:14:52 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - to

14:15:09 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to update test case status for  :jsonres01 - :jsonres04

ACTION: axel to update test case status for :jsonres01 - :jsonres04

14:15:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-521 - Update test case status for  :jsonres01 - :jsonres04 [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-23].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-521 - Update test case status for :jsonres01 - :jsonres04 [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-23].

14:15:45 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#TSV.2FCSV_Results

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/TestSuiteCoverage#TSV.2FCSV_Results

14:15:52 <Olivier> csv tsv test cases

csv tsv test cases

14:15:58 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/csv-tsv-res/

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/csv-tsv-res/

14:16:47 <AxelPolleres>     :csv01

Axel Polleres: :csv01

14:16:48 <AxelPolleres>     :tsv01

Axel Polleres: :tsv01

14:16:48 <AxelPolleres>     :csv02

Axel Polleres: :csv02

14:16:48 <AxelPolleres>     :tsv02

Axel Polleres: :tsv02

14:16:48 <AxelPolleres> ...

Axel Polleres: ...

14:16:49 <AndyS> I only run TSV tests.

Andy Seaborne: I only run TSV tests.

14:17:16 <kasei> everything but csv03 look good to me

Gregory Williams: everything but csv03 look good to me

14:17:43 <kasei> q+

Gregory Williams: q+

14:17:50 <Olivier> corner case in csv3 tsv3

corner case in csv3 tsv3

14:17:59 <bglimm> Zakum, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakum, unmute me

14:18:09 <AxelPolleres> birte?

Axel Polleres: birte?

14:18:17 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, unmute bglimm

Axel Polleres: Zakim, unmute bglimm

14:18:17 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted

14:18:46 <bglimm> Zakim, ack me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, ack me

14:18:46 <Zakim> bglimm, you wanted to ask when we can discuss Michael Schneider's comments

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm, you wanted to ask when we can discuss Michael Schneider's comments

14:18:49 <Zakim> I see kasei on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see kasei on the speaker queue

14:18:53 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me

14:18:53 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted

14:19:18 <Olivier> csv : pb with canonicalization of literals

csv : pb with canonicalization of literals

14:19:30 <Olivier> csv 3 indeed

csv 3 indeed

14:19:48 <AxelPolleres> cvs03 ... corner cases

Axel Polleres: cvs03 ... corner cases

14:19:51 <AxelPolleres> :s1 :p1 "1"^^xsd:decimal .

Axel Polleres: :s1 :p1 "1"^^xsd:decimal .

14:19:51 <AxelPolleres> :s2 :p2 "2.2"^^xsd:decimal .

Axel Polleres: :s2 :p2 "2.2"^^xsd:decimal .

14:19:52 <AxelPolleres> :s3 :p3 "-3"^^xsd:negativeInteger .

Axel Polleres: :s3 :p3 "-3"^^xsd:negativeInteger .

14:19:52 <AxelPolleres> :s4 :p4 "4,4"^^xsd:string .

Axel Polleres: :s4 :p4 "4,4"^^xsd:string .

14:19:52 <AxelPolleres> :s5 :p5 "5,5"^^:myCustomDatatype .

Axel Polleres: :s5 :p5 "5,5"^^:myCustomDatatype .

14:19:53 <AxelPolleres> :s6 :p6 "1.0e6"^^xsd:double .

Axel Polleres: :s6 :p6 "1.0e6"^^xsd:double .

14:19:54 <AxelPolleres> :s7 :p7 "a7"^^xsd:hexBinary .

Axel Polleres: :s7 :p7 "a7"^^xsd:hexBinary .

14:20:45 <Olivier> result 1 is ambiguous

result 1 is ambiguous

14:20:48 <AndyS> q+

Andy Seaborne: q+

14:21:01 <AxelPolleres> query is   ... WHERE{ ?s ?p ?o } ...

Axel Polleres: query is ... WHERE{ ?s ?p ?o } ...

14:21:03 <AndyS> q-

Andy Seaborne: q-

14:21:29 <pgearon> q+

Paul Gearon: q+

14:21:31 <AxelPolleres> greg: result for ?o could be 1 or 1.0, both valid

Gregory Williams: result for ?o could be 1 or 1.0, both valid [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

14:21:43 <kasei> q-

Gregory Williams: q-

14:21:51 <AxelPolleres> ... depending on canonicalization.

Axel Polleres: ... depending on canonicalization.

14:22:43 <kasei> maybe not completely "separate", but SPARQL doesn't specify. there are several valid options.

Gregory Williams: maybe not completely "separate", but SPARQL doesn't specify. there are several valid options.

14:22:56 <AxelPolleres> paul: load in update touches upon canonicalization.

Paul Gearon: load in update touches upon canonicalization. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

14:23:01 <bglimm> Entailment with datatypes also has this issue

Birte Glimm: Entailment with datatypes also has this issue

14:23:55 <pgearon> from memory, the SPARQL 1.0 tests contains alternative tests, whereby a store will pass one or the other, but not both

Paul Gearon: from memory, the SPARQL 1.0 tests contains alternative tests, whereby a store will pass one or the other, but not both

14:24:07 <AxelPolleres> kasei: proposal ... to mark test case with mf:requires ...

Gregory Williams: proposal ... to mark test case with mf:requires ... [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

14:24:24 <AxelPolleres> Andy: XSD1.0 and 1.1 treat these cases differently.

Andy Seaborne: XSD1.0 and 1.1 treat these cases differently. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

14:24:50 <AndyS> Just don't test for legal variances.

Andy Seaborne: Just don't test for legal variances.

14:25:16 <kasei> currently mf:requies is still (I think) just talking about "open world" tests, but we're using it for more than that in 1.1

Gregory Williams: currently mf:requies is still (I think) just talking about "open world" tests, but we're using it for more than that in 1.1

14:25:43 <MattPerry> I agree with Andy. Just remove that triple from the dataset.

Matthew Perry: I agree with Andy. Just remove that triple from the dataset.

14:26:09 <kasei> right. LOTS of answers :)

Gregory Williams: right. LOTS of answers :)

14:26:41 <kasei> q+

Gregory Williams: q+

14:26:48 <pgearon> q-

Paul Gearon: q-

14:27:07 <AxelPolleres> axel: least path of resistence would be dropping first line.

Axel Polleres: least path of resistence would be dropping first line. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

14:27:19 <bglimm> -3 could also be canonicalised to decimal

Birte Glimm: -3 could also be canonicalised to decimal

14:27:27 <bglimm> or integer

Birte Glimm: or integer

14:27:45 <bglimm> well, decimal is the base type

Birte Glimm: well, decimal is the base type

14:28:29 <AxelPolleres> "3"^^xsd:string should be non-ambiguous

Axel Polleres: "3"^^xsd:string should be non-ambiguous

14:28:42 <bglimm> yes

Birte Glimm: yes

14:29:18 <Olivier> pb with testing bnode in csv

pb with testing bnode in csv

14:29:20 <AxelPolleres> can I replace "1"^^xsd:decimal with "1"^^xsd:string ?

Axel Polleres: can I replace "1"^^xsd:decimal with "1"^^xsd:string ?

14:30:52 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: approve csv01-csv03 and tsv01-tsv03 modulo changing  "1"^^xsd:decimal with "1"^^xsd:string in data2.ttl

PROPOSED: approve csv01-csv03 and tsv01-tsv03 modulo changing "1"^^xsd:decimal with "1"^^xsd:string in data2.ttl

14:31:18 <LeeF> q+

Lee Feigenbaum: q+

14:31:25 <kasei> q-

Gregory Williams: q-

14:31:27 <AxelPolleres> ack kasei

Axel Polleres: ack kasei

14:31:57 <kasei> I agree with the strangeness of the differences. Didn't notice until very late in the game.

Gregory Williams: I agree with the strangeness of the differences. Didn't notice until very late in the game.

14:32:15 <AxelPolleres> Leef: I will abstian on that one, since I still find some weird aspects in CSV/TSV.

Lee Feigenbaum: I will abstian on that one, since I still find some weird aspects in CSV/TSV. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

14:33:04 <pgearon> +1

Paul Gearon: +1

14:33:08 <AndyS> +1

Andy Seaborne: +1

14:33:19 <AndyS> (prefer to see the change)

Andy Seaborne: (prefer to see the change)

14:33:29 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: approve csv01-csv03 and tsv01-tsv03 modulo changing  "1"^^xsd:decimal with "1"^^xsd:string in data2.ttl

RESOLVED: approve csv01-csv03 and tsv01-tsv03 modulo changing "1"^^xsd:decimal with "1"^^xsd:string in data2.ttl

14:33:38 <AxelPolleres> (with one abstention by LeeF)

Axel Polleres: (with one abstention by LeeF)

14:34:01 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: to change test case status for csv/tsv tests01-03.

ACTION: to change test case status for csv/tsv tests01-03.

14:34:01 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - to

14:34:24 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to change test case status for csv/tsv tests01-03.

ACTION: axel to change test case status for csv/tsv tests01-03.

14:34:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-522 - Change test case status for csv/tsv tests01-03. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-23].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-522 - Change test case status for csv/tsv tests01-03. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-23].

14:35:13 <Olivier> update test cases with silent

update test cases with silent

14:35:24 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/update-silent/

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/update-silent/

14:35:37 <kasei> note, the just approved proposal also needs to change csvtsv03.tsv along with data2.ttl.

Gregory Williams: note, the just approved proposal also needs to change csvtsv03.tsv along with data2.ttl.

14:37:16 <Olivier> I can hav a look

I can hav a look

14:37:19 <Olivier> have

have

14:37:38 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Olivier to look into test cases at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/update-silent/ for approval next time.

ACTION: Olivier to look into test cases at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/update-silent/ for approval next time.

14:37:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-523 - Look into test cases at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/update-silent/ for approval next time. [on Olivier Corby - due 2011-08-23].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-523 - Look into test cases at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/update-silent/ for approval next time. [on Olivier Corby - due 2011-08-23].

14:38:20 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0183.html

Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0183.html

14:39:43 <pgearon> q+

Paul Gearon: q+

14:39:56 <AxelPolleres> " an empty graph being retrieved will not create a new graph in the graph store."

Axel Polleres: " an empty graph being retrieved will not create a new graph in the graph store."

14:40:15 <LeeF> q-

Lee Feigenbaum: q-

14:41:51 <pgearon> q-

Paul Gearon: q-

14:43:42 <AxelPolleres> plesae check re-wording suggested in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0183.html

Axel Polleres: plesae check re-wording suggested in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0183.html

14:44:27 <AxelPolleres> "an empty graph being retrieved will not create a new graph in the graph store." will removing this be problematic for LC?

Axel Polleres: "an empty graph being retrieved will not create a new graph in the graph store." will removing this be problematic for LC?

14:45:19 <AxelPolleres> AndyS: the sentence is ambiguous, and removing it in favor of the formal def overriding it should be ok as "editorial"

Andy Seaborne: the sentence is ambiguous, and removing it in favor of the formal def overriding it should be ok as "editorial" [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

14:46:15 <AxelPolleres> let's get back to those test cases next time.

Axel Polleres: let's get back to those test cases next time.

14:46:42 <AxelPolleres> topic: publishing other docs

4. publishing other docs

14:47:33 <AxelPolleres> Axel and lee to push fwd on JSON and CSV/TSV results publication by next week.

Axel Polleres: Axel and lee to push fwd on JSON and CSV/TSV results publication by next week.

14:47:45 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel and lee to push fwd on JSON and CSV/TSV results publication by next week.

ACTION: Axel and lee to push fwd on JSON and CSV/TSV results publication by next week.

14:47:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-524 - And lee to push fwd on JSON and CSV/TSV results publication by next week. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-23].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-524 - And lee to push fwd on JSON and CSV/TSV results publication by next week. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-23].

14:48:52 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-501

Axel Polleres: close ACTION-501

14:48:52 <trackbot> ACTION-501 Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-501 Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness closed

14:49:30 <AxelPolleres> action-514 continued...

Axel Polleres: ACTION-514 continued...

14:50:14 <AxelPolleres> Overview doc now located here http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/

Axel Polleres: Overview doc now located here http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/

14:50:40 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to fix references in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/

ACTION: axel to fix references in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/

14:50:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-525 - Fix references in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/ [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-23].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-525 - Fix references in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/sparql11-overview/ [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-23].

14:51:07 <AndyS> Review by Matt

Andy Seaborne: Review by Matt

14:51:35 <MattPerry> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0179.html

Matthew Perry: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0179.html

14:51:48 <AxelPolleres> axel will try to address matt's review to mayb vote for pub in the next week or two

Axel Polleres: axel will try to address matt's review to mayb vote for pub in the next week or two

14:52:16 <AxelPolleres> topic: comments & actions

5. comments & actions

14:52:27 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

14:52:46 <AndyS> I updated it today for RC-4.

Andy Seaborne: I updated it today for RC-4.

14:54:34 <Olivier> Security issue in update

Security issue in update

14:55:56 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me

Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me

14:55:56 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted

14:57:08 <Olivier> Comment on D-Entailment regime, about the chosen name

Comment on D-Entailment regime, about the chosen name

14:57:35 <AndyS> "D-Entailment for XSD datatypes"

Andy Seaborne: "D-Entailment for XSD datatypes"

14:57:44 <bglimm> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jul/0013

Birte Glimm: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jul/0013

14:58:24 <AndyS> and other nasty DTs like XML literal (boo, hiss)

Andy Seaborne: and other nasty DTs like XML literal (boo, hiss)

14:59:16 <AxelPolleres> Birte: suggests we either don't specify any prescribed datatypes or use RIF/OWL intersection.

Birte Glimm: suggests we either don't specify any prescribed datatypes or use RIF/OWL intersection. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ]

14:59:32 <MattPerry> bye ... have another meeting

Matthew Perry: bye ... have another meeting

14:59:38 <Zakim> -MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry

15:00:29 <AxelPolleres> Birte will take the discussion on MS-6 on email.

Axel Polleres: Birte will take the discussion on MS-6 on email.

15:00:55 <AndyS>  BTW: rdf:PlainLiteral link goes to RDF concepts for XML Literal

Andy Seaborne: BTW: rdf:PlainLiteral link goes to RDF concepts for XML Literal

15:00:58 <AndyS> :-)

Andy Seaborne: :-)

15:01:20 <AxelPolleres> adjourned

Axel Polleres: adjourned

15:01:21 <Zakim> -bglimm

Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm

15:01:23 <Zakim> -cbuilara

Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara

15:01:25 <bglimm> bye

Birte Glimm: bye

15:01:25 <Zakim> -pgearon

Zakim IRC Bot: -pgearon

15:01:26 <Zakim> -LeeF

Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF

15:01:26 <Zakim> -alexpassant

Zakim IRC Bot: -alexpassant

15:01:28 <Zakim> -Olivier

Zakim IRC Bot: -Olivier

15:01:33 <Zakim> -AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS

15:01:34 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public

Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public



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