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13:56:25 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/07/26-sparql-irc
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13:56:29 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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13:56:29 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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13:56:30 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:56:30 <trackbot> Date: 26 July 2011
13:56:50 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-07-26
13:57:11 <AxelPolleres> chair: Axel Polleres
13:57:23 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
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13:57:30 <Zakim> +??P5
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13:57:38 <NickH> Zakim, ??P5 is me
Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, ??P5 is me ←
13:57:38 <Zakim> +NickH; got it
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13:57:53 <NickH> Zakim, mute me
Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, mute me ←
13:57:53 <Zakim> sorry, NickH, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
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13:57:57 <NickH> heh
Nicholas Humfrey: heh ←
13:58:59 <Zakim> + +1.310.729.aaaa
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13:59:06 <NickH> Zakim, mute me
Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, mute me ←
13:59:06 <Zakim> NickH should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: NickH should now be muted ←
13:59:08 <kasei> Zakim, aaaa is me
Gregory Williams: Zakim, aaaa is me ←
13:59:08 <Zakim> +kasei; got it
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13:59:17 <Zakim> + +49.897.aabb
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13:59:45 <NickH> I can here you
Nicholas Humfrey: I can here you ←
13:59:50 <NickH> hear
Nicholas Humfrey: hear ←
13:59:57 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, aabb is probably me
Axel Polleres: Zakim, aabb is probably me ←
13:59:57 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres?; got it
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14:00:05 <Zakim> +??P12
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14:00:08 <Zakim> +??P15
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14:00:11 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P12 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P12 is me ←
14:00:11 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it ←
14:00:11 <AndyS> zakim, ??P12 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P12 is me ←
14:00:13 <Zakim> I already had ??P12 as cbuilara, AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P12 as cbuilara, AndyS ←
14:00:19 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH (muted), kasei, AxelPolleres?, cbuilara, ??P15
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH (muted), kasei, AxelPolleres?, cbuilara, ??P15 ←
14:00:22 <AndyS> zakim, ??P15 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P15 is me ←
14:00:22 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
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14:00:24 <Zakim> -cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara ←
14:00:39 <AndyS> OK
Andy Seaborne: OK ←
14:00:45 <AndyS> scribenick: AndyS
(Scribe set to Andy Seaborne)
14:00:50 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aacc
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14:00:54 <Zakim> -kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei ←
14:01:05 <MattPerry> zakim, aacc is me
Matthew Perry: zakim, aacc is me ←
14:01:05 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it
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14:01:39 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:01:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry ←
14:01:50 <Zakim> +??P9
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14:01:55 <SteveH__> Zakim, ??P9 is me
Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P9 is me ←
14:01:55 <Zakim> +SteveH__; got it
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14:02:12 <Zakim> +kasei
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14:02:18 <Zakim> + +3539149aadd
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14:02:26 <alex_> Zakim, +3539149aadd is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, +3539149aadd is me ←
14:02:26 <Zakim> +alex_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +alex_; got it ←
14:02:28 <AxelPolleres> scribenick: steveH
(Scribe set to Steve Harris)
14:02:31 <AndyS> scribenick: SteveH__
14:02:59 <Zakim> +??P16
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16 ←
14:03:04 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P16 is me
Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P16 is me ←
14:03:04 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cbuilara; got it ←
14:03:06 <SteveH__> AxelPolleres: admin, Lee will be late
Axel Polleres: admin, Lee will be late ←
14:03:28 <SteveH> … regrets: birte, greg
… regrets: birte, greg ←
14:03:31 <kasei> spotty connection.
Gregory Williams: spotty connection. ←
14:03:38 <kasei> but here just this moment.
Gregory Williams: but here just this moment. ←
14:03:38 <AndyS> scribenick: SteveH
14:03:39 <AxelPolleres> regrets: Olivier, Birte, Lee
14:03:53 <SteveH> … admin issues.
… admin issues. ←
14:03:58 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-07-12
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-07-12 ←
14:04:15 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:04:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry, SteveH__, kasei, alex_, cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry, SteveH__, kasei, alex_, cbuilara ←
14:04:21 <Zakim> +pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon ←
14:04:37 <SteveH> Zakim, SteveH__ is me
Zakim, SteveH__ is me ←
14:04:37 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveH; got it ←
14:04:57 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-07-12
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-07-12 ←
14:05:16 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: scribe for next meeting, paul
Axel Polleres: scribe for next meeting, paul ←
14:05:34 <SteveH> pgearon: on holiday next week
Paul Gearon: on holiday next week ←
14:06:10 <AxelPolleres> birte should be back
Axel Polleres: birte should be back ←
14:06:19 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: scribe for next meeting, birte
Axel Polleres: scribe for next meeting, birte ←
14:06:47 <SteveH> … publications
… publications ←
14:06:55 <SteveH> … decide today about publication of drafts
… decide today about publication of drafts ←
14:07:13 <SteveH> … tsv-csv-results and json-results
… tsv-csv-results and json-results ←
14:07:29 <SteveH> … json-results should be in last call shape, tsv/csv in shape for FPWD
… json-results should be in last call shape, tsv/csv in shape for FPWD ←
14:07:41 <SteveH> … fed query needs more discussion
… fed query needs more discussion ←
14:07:47 <Zakim> -alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: -alex_ ←
14:08:05 <SteveH> … tsv/csv comments?
… tsv/csv comments? ←
14:08:08 <SteveH> q+
q+ ←
14:08:20 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
14:08:26 <AxelPolleres> go ahead steve
Axel Polleres: go ahead steve ←
14:08:29 <Zakim> +alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: +alex_ ←
14:08:43 <AndyS> ack SteveH
Andy Seaborne: ack SteveH ←
14:08:49 <alexpassant> Zakim, +alex_ is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, +alex_ is me ←
14:08:49 <Zakim> sorry, alexpassant, I do not recognize a party named '+alex_'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, alexpassant, I do not recognize a party named '+alex_' ←
14:09:40 <SteveH> AndyS: tsv/csv - ready for FPWD, but still some editorial stuff, but better to publish (as WD) now
Andy Seaborne: tsv/csv - ready for FPWD, but still some editorial stuff, but better to publish (as WD) now ←
14:09:41 <AndyS> ack me
Andy Seaborne: ack me ←
14:09:42 <SteveH> +1
+1 ←
14:10:04 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: anything on json results?
Axel Polleres: anything on json results? ←
14:10:16 <AndyS> SteveH - could you email the list with comments and I'll see if i can deal with them ASAP or post pub
Andy Seaborne: SteveH - could you email the list with comments and I'll see if i can deal with them ASAP or post pub ←
14:10:19 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html ←
14:10:27 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html ←
14:10:29 <SteveH> AndyS, I already did, ages ago
AndyS, I already did, ages ago ←
14:10:36 <SteveH> AndyS, I think you dealt with them
AndyS, I think you dealt with them ←
14:11:07 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: ask w3c team about dates, any comments?
Axel Polleres: ask w3c team about dates, any comments? ←
14:11:26 <AndyS> Ok - I believe I'm up-to-date - just need to add header mandatory in CVS (if not already done) Can't remember - will check cvs log
Andy Seaborne: Ok - I believe I'm up-to-date - just need to add header mandatory in CVS (if not already done) Can't remember - will check cvs log ←
14:11:44 <AndyS> +1 to publish both
Andy Seaborne: +1 to publish both ←
14:11:47 <SteveH> +1
+1 ←
14:12:02 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to inquire at W3C team on next possible pub date.
ACTION: Axel to inquire at W3C team on next possible pub date. ←
14:12:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-499 - Inquire at W3C team on next possible pub date. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-499 - Inquire at W3C team on next possible pub date. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:12:50 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-csv-tsv/ at next possible publication date (ie. pending completion of . ACTION4-99)
PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-csv-tsv/ at next possible publication date (ie. pending completion of . ACTION-499) ←
14:12:56 <SteveH> seconded
seconded ←
14:13:21 <AxelPolleres> s/4-99/-499/
14:13:38 <SteveH> +1 [Garlik]
+1 [Garlik] ←
14:13:44 <NickH> +1 [BBC]
Nicholas Humfrey: +1 [BBC] ←
14:13:44 <AndyS> +1 [Apache Software Foundation]
Andy Seaborne: +1 [Apache Software Foundation] ←
14:13:47 <alexpassant> +1 [DERI]
Alexandre Passant: +1 [DERI] ←
14:13:49 <pgearon> +1 [Revelytix]
Paul Gearon: +1 [Revelytix] ←
14:13:50 <kasei> +1 [RPI]
Gregory Williams: +1 [RPI] ←
14:13:51 <cbuilara> +1 [UPM]
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 [UPM] ←
14:13:55 <MattPerry> +1
Matthew Perry: +1 ←
14:14:13 <MattPerry> [Oracle]
Matthew Perry: [Oracle] ←
14:14:45 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-csv-tsv/ at next possible publication date (ie. pending completion of . ACTION-499)
RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/csv-tsv-results/results-csv-tsv.html as FPWD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-csv-tsv/ at next possible publication date (ie. pending completion of . ACTION-499) ←
14:16:10 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: JSON results format.
Axel Polleres: JSON results format. ←
14:16:12 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-json/ (ie. pending completion of ACTION-499)
PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-json/ (ie. pending completion of ACTION-499) ←
14:16:54 <AndyS> +1 [Apache Software Foundation]
Andy Seaborne: +1 [Apache Software Foundation] ←
14:16:56 <pgearon> +1 [Revelytix]
Paul Gearon: +1 [Revelytix] ←
14:17:03 <SteveH> +1 [Garlik]
+1 [Garlik] ←
14:17:03 <kasei> +1 [RPI]
Gregory Williams: +1 [RPI] ←
14:17:04 <MattPerry> +1 [Oracle]
Matthew Perry: +1 [Oracle] ←
14:17:06 <alexpassant> +1 [DERI]
Alexandre Passant: +1 [DERI] ←
14:17:09 <cbuilara> +1 [UPM]
Carlos Buil Aranda: +1 [UPM] ←
14:17:09 <NickH> +1 [BBC]
Nicholas Humfrey: +1 [BBC] ←
14:17:23 <SteveH> I have some small reservations that it's not the right thing, but it's quite widely implemented
I have some small reservations that it's not the right thing, but it's quite widely implemented ←
14:17:43 <kasei> that html document says both "Editor's Draft" and "Working Draft" (?)
Gregory Williams: that html document says both "Editor's Draft" and "Working Draft" (?) ←
14:17:50 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-json/ (ie. pending completion of ACTION-499)
RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/json-results/json-results-lc.html as LC WD at http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-results-json/ (ie. pending completion of ACTION-499) ←
14:18:04 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: aim to publish these two together
Axel Polleres: aim to publish these two together ←
14:18:06 <AndyS> SteveH - pls let me know the reservations sometime.
Andy Seaborne: SteveH - pls let me know the reservations sometime. ←
14:18:10 <SteveH> … Fed Query document
… Fed Query document ←
14:18:41 <SteveH> cbuilara: comments about service with variables, there was a mistake in the semantics
Carlos Buil Aranda: comments about service with variables, there was a mistake in the semantics ←
14:18:52 <SteveH> … not possible to have a variables bound
… not possible to have a variables bound ←
14:19:05 <SteveH> … suggested to add [something]
… suggested to add [something] ←
14:19:22 <SteveH> … working on informative section
… working on informative section ←
14:20:26 <NickH> yes, better
Nicholas Humfrey: yes, better ←
14:20:36 <NickH> little bit of an echo
Nicholas Humfrey: little bit of an echo ←
14:20:55 <SteveH> … moving service to the last section, if everyone agrees
… moving service to the last section, if everyone agrees ←
14:21:12 <SteveH> … will continue formatting
… will continue formatting ←
14:22:13 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: do we have uncommitted changes
Axel Polleres: do we have uncommitted changes ←
14:22:16 <SteveH> cbuilara: yes
Carlos Buil Aranda: yes ←
14:22:26 <SteveH> … I can't commit the last stuff
… I can't commit the last stuff ←
14:22:32 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: please commit
Axel Polleres: please commit ←
14:22:54 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service.xml
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service.xml ←
14:23:28 <AndyS> Beware of mirrors: "26-Jul-2011 14:22 45K"
Andy Seaborne: Beware of mirrors: "26-Jul-2011 14:22 45K" ←
14:24:45 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: concern about example using SERVICE and BINDINGs
Axel Polleres: concern about example using SERVICE and BINDINGs ←
14:25:03 <SteveH> … idea is that impl. could rewrite during execution, using BINDINGS
… idea is that impl. could rewrite during execution, using BINDINGS ←
14:25:12 <SteveH> using subquery to remote servoce
using subquery to remote servoce ←
14:25:17 <cbuilara> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0025.html
Carlos Buil Aranda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011JulSep/0025.html ←
14:25:18 <kasei> this is action 462 which is marked as "to be added post LC"
Gregory Williams: this is ACTION-462 which is marked as "to be added post LC" ←
14:26:39 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: can someone review §2.4 and §4?
Axel Polleres: can someone review §2.4 and §4? ←
14:26:46 <SteveH> … then we can go for publication next week
… then we can go for publication next week ←
14:26:55 <SteveH> … we could leave out §2.4 if there are concerns
… we could leave out §2.4 if there are concerns ←
14:27:43 <SteveH> … any objections to making §2.4 informative, so we're not as strictly bound by LC restrictions
… any objections to making §2.4 informative, so we're not as strictly bound by LC restrictions ←
14:27:58 <SteveH> AndyS: if we could change the example that would be goo, might be confusing to readers
Andy Seaborne: if we could change the example that would be goo, might be confusing to readers ←
14:28:13 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: I proposed different example
Axel Polleres: I proposed different example ←
14:28:24 <SteveH> AndyS: will try and look at proposal
Andy Seaborne: will try and look at proposal ←
14:28:49 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: carlos, write email to group. will have 2+ people review it for LC readiness
Axel Polleres: carlos, write email to group. will have 2+ people review it for LC readiness ←
14:28:58 <AndyS> I can try to review doc when Carlos says it's ready but it's "at risk" for next week.
Andy Seaborne: I can try to review doc when Carlos says it's ready but it's "at risk" for next week. ←
14:29:50 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Andy to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness
ACTION: Andy to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness ←
14:29:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-500 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-500 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Andy Seaborne - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:30:05 <SteveH> call for volunteers
call for volunteers ←
14:30:23 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:30:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry, SteveH, kasei, cbuilara, pgearon, alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see NickH (muted), AxelPolleres?, AndyS, MattPerry, SteveH, kasei, cbuilara, pgearon, alex_ ←
14:30:23 <AndyS> zakim, Pick a victim
Andy Seaborne: zakim, Pick a victim ←
14:30:25 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose alex_ ←
14:30:32 <NickH> sorry, federation
Nicholas Humfrey: sorry, federation ←
14:30:35 <NickH> is not my thing
Nicholas Humfrey: is not my thing ←
14:30:49 <SteveH> Zakim, who's talking?
Zakim, who's talking? ←
14:30:57 <AndyS> :-) Alex -- blame the bots for everything
Andy Seaborne: :-) Alex -- blame the bots for everything ←
14:31:01 <Zakim> SteveH, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: AxelPolleres? (86%), AndyS (50%), alex_ (19%)
Zakim IRC Bot: SteveH, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: AxelPolleres? (86%), AndyS (50%), alex_ (19%) ←
14:31:06 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Alex to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness
ACTION: Alex to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness ←
14:31:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-501 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Alexandre Passant - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-501 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Alexandre Passant - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:31:13 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness
ACTION: Axel to review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness ←
14:31:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-502 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-502 - Review updates in Fed query doc (particularly section 2.4 and 4) for LC readiness [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:31:51 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: carlos, it would be good if you were ready to resolve concerns with reviewrs
Axel Polleres: carlos, it would be good if you were ready to resolve concerns with reviewrs ←
14:32:11 <SteveH> … one point: errata
… one point: errata ←
14:32:17 <SteveH> … not sure how we handle that
… not sure how we handle that ←
14:32:37 <SteveH> … we have particularly on XML result format, which we decided not to update
… we have particularly on XML result format, which we decided not to update ←
14:32:42 <SteveH> … found issues, on errata page
… found issues, on errata page ←
14:32:48 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results ←
14:32:54 <SteveH> … I hope this is complete
… I hope this is complete ←
14:33:08 <SteveH> … some things on protocol, XML results
… some things on protocol, XML results ←
14:33:17 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
14:33:17 <SteveH> … do we need to publish errata for query 1.0? I guess not
… do we need to publish errata for query 1.0? I guess not ←
14:34:03 <SteveH> … for the process of errata we need to collect them in a certain format, then decide what to publish
… for the process of errata we need to collect them in a certain format, then decide what to publish ←
14:34:18 <SteveH> … we need an errata page for results format, and no sure about query 1.0
… we need an errata page for results format, and no sure about query 1.0 ←
14:34:45 <SteveH> AndyS: there are two kinds of errata, ones for doc in progress, we can just make changes. ones were not publishing, we need to pub errata
Andy Seaborne: there are two kinds of errata, ones for doc in progress, we can just make changes. ones were not publishing, we need to pub errata ←
14:35:09 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ ←
14:35:17 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata ←
14:35:23 <SteveH> AxelPolleres, there's an errata link there, which is just empty
AxelPolleres, there's an errata link there, which is just empty ←
14:35:26 <SteveH> … but it's a template
… but it's a template ←
14:35:38 <SteveH> … need to action someone to do it
… need to action someone to do it ←
14:35:43 <AndyS> Tricky bit is http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/result-to-html.xsl -- can we just change it in place?
Andy Seaborne: Tricky bit is http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/result-to-html.xsl -- can we just change it in place? ←
14:35:44 <SteveH> … then approve it
… then approve it ←
14:36:34 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: I will contact sandro about that
Axel Polleres: I will contact sandro about that ←
14:36:50 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to contaxt sandro on whether we're allowed to change xsl in place in the course of errata
ACTION: Axel to contaxt sandro on whether we're allowed to change xsl in place in the course of errata ←
14:36:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-503 - Contaxt sandro on whether we're allowed to change xsl in place in the course of errata [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-503 - Contaxt sandro on whether we're allowed to change xsl in place in the course of errata [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:37:18 <SteveH> … we need a volunteer to look at errata format page, and update w.r.t items collected on wiki page
… we need a volunteer to look at errata format page, and update w.r.t items collected on wiki page ←
14:37:39 <AxelPolleres> We need someone to volunteer to incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata
Axel Polleres: We need someone to volunteer to incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata ←
14:37:51 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim ←
14:37:51 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose alex_ ←
14:37:56 <AndyS> !!!!!!!!!
Andy Seaborne: !!!!!!!!! ←
14:37:59 <alexpassant> :) no !!!
Alexandre Passant: :) no !!! ←
14:38:02 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim ←
14:38:02 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose kasei ←
14:38:19 <kasei> Not in the next ~10 days, but afterwards.
Gregory Williams: Not in the next ~10 days, but afterwards. ←
14:39:15 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Greg to incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata
ACTION: Greg to incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata ←
14:39:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-504 - Incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata [on Gregory Williams - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-504 - Incorporate http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL_Errata#SPARQL_XML_Results into http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/XMLres-errata [on Gregory Williams - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:40:21 <AxelPolleres> topic: action review
14:40:33 <AxelPolleres> please complete test case coverage actions bz next week!
Axel Polleres: please complete test case coverage actions bz next week! ←
14:40:35 <AndyS> The ACTION-498 is done by http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jul/0006
Andy Seaborne: The ACTION-498 is done by http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jul/0006 ←
14:41:12 <AxelPolleres> close ACTION-498
Axel Polleres: close ACTION-498 ←
14:41:12 <trackbot> ACTION-498 Contact Sebastian Conca on how to proceed with his comment. closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-498 Contact Sebastian Conca on how to proceed with his comment. closed ←
14:41:45 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: all actions should be for next week
Axel Polleres: all actions should be for next week ←
14:41:58 <SteveH> … review action for Lee is still open, but he has no objection to publish
… review action for Lee is still open, but he has no objection to publish ←
14:42:12 <SteveH> … one action open on greg, review [something]
… one action open on greg, review [something] ←
14:42:20 <kasei> q+
Gregory Williams: q+ ←
14:42:24 <AndyS> ack me
Andy Seaborne: ack me ←
14:42:30 <SteveH> … same action as reviewing fed query last changes
… same action as reviewing fed query last changes ←
14:42:46 <SteveH> kasei: I don't that action is the same
Gregory Williams: I don't that action is the same ←
14:42:58 <SteveH> … it was specifically about text for using BINDINGS
… it was specifically about text for using BINDINGS ←
14:43:25 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: if you could have a look before next telecon it would be good
Axel Polleres: if you could have a look before next telecon it would be good ←
14:43:31 <SteveH> … not mission critical
… not mission critical ←
14:44:00 <SteveH> … carlos, will you tackle that next? some open action on you about a section for testcases
… carlos, will you tackle that next? some open action on you about a section for testcases ←
14:44:13 <SteveH> cbuilara: wrote a small thing about that
Carlos Buil Aranda: wrote a small thing about that ←
14:44:26 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: incorporate it directly into the README.html document
Axel Polleres: incorporate it directly into the README.html document ←
14:45:02 <Zakim> + +1.617.553.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.553.aaee ←
14:45:07 <LeeF> zakim, aaee is me
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aaee is me ←
14:45:07 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF; got it ←
14:46:07 <SteveH> cbuilara: I know that document
Carlos Buil Aranda: I know that document ←
14:46:36 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: ACTION-486 is basically done
Axel Polleres: ACTION-486 is basically done ←
14:46:48 <AxelPolleres> ACTION-486 ... http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11
Axel Polleres: ACTION-486 ... http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11 ←
14:47:06 <SteveH> … is there any more things which need to go in?
… is there any more things which need to go in? ←
14:47:13 <SteveH> … I'm not really able to follow it
… I'm not really able to follow it ←
14:47:19 <SteveH> … how should we proceed?
… how should we proceed? ←
14:47:54 <SteveH> … no distinction with literals without a language tag, and xsd:String literals
… no distinction with literals without a language tag, and xsd:String literals ←
14:48:12 <SteveH> AndyS: current proposal is the lang tag literals may have a class, but no DT
Andy Seaborne: current proposal is the lang tag literals may have a class, but no DT ←
14:48:29 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: functions and BGP matching will be affected
Axel Polleres: functions and BGP matching will be affected ←
14:48:44 <SteveH> … SD may also need to have something in the note, to indicate support
… SD may also need to have something in the note, to indicate support ←
14:49:12 <SteveH> … last thing is entailment regimes, think we need to reflect the non-distinction between plain lit and string lit
… last thing is entailment regimes, think we need to reflect the non-distinction between plain lit and string lit ←
14:49:25 <SteveH> … if you have something, feel free to edit this doc
… if you have something, feel free to edit this doc ←
14:49:45 <SteveH> LeeF: I'll do the result format thing, for wiki page
Lee Feigenbaum: I'll do the result format thing, for wiki page ←
14:49:51 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: great
Axel Polleres: great ←
14:50:09 <SteveH> LeeF: you SHOULD/should not output xsd:string as a datatype
Lee Feigenbaum: you SHOULD/should not output xsd:string as a datatype ←
14:50:34 <AxelPolleres> ACRTION: Lee to add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11
Scribe problem: the name 'ACRTION' does not match any of the 38 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Carlos Buil Aranda David Charboneau John Clark Olivier Corby Souripriya Das Orri Erling Jean-Pierre EVAIN Ahmed Ezzat Lee Feigenbaum Enrico Franconi Paul Gearon Birte Glimm Steve Harris Sandro Hawke Iker Huerga Nicholas Humfrey Prateek Jain Nophadol Jekjantuk Tommi Koivula Alberto Labarga Nico Michaelis Ivan Mikhailov David Newman Chimezie Ogbuji Bijan Parsia Alexandre Passant Matthew Perry Axel Polleres Eric Prud'hommeaux Daniel Schutzer Andy Seaborne Umberto Straccia Edward () Thomas Jari Vänttinen Gregory Williams Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown ACRTION: Lee to add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11 [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
14:50:50 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11
ACTION: Lee to add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11 ←
14:50:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-505 - Add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11 [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-505 - Add a section on result formats in http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/SPARQL11_and_RDF11 [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:50:52 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: how can we proceed in populating this doc
Axel Polleres: how can we proceed in populating this doc ←
14:51:14 <SteveH> AndyS: I think it's getting on ok, but we need RDF-WG to give itself a fixed target, meetings every 2 weeks over summer, moving slowly
Andy Seaborne: I think it's getting on ok, but we need RDF-WG to give itself a fixed target, meetings every 2 weeks over summer, moving slowly ←
14:51:33 <SteveH> … from the p.o.v. we can't go faster than them, lets keep it ticking along, but not urgency
… from the p.o.v. we can't go faster than them, lets keep it ticking along, but not urgency ←
14:51:50 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: we don't have an official liaison, we could have it as part of admin issues
Axel Polleres: we don't have an official liaison, we could have it as part of admin issues ←
14:52:00 <SteveH> … along with other liaisons
… along with other liaisons ←
14:52:08 <SteveH> … put it in official agenda
… put it in official agenda ←
14:52:45 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to put "liaison" in next agenda draft.
ACTION: axel to put "liaison" in next agenda draft. ←
14:52:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-506 - Put "liaison" in next agenda draft. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-506 - Put "liaison" in next agenda draft. [on Axel Polleres - due 2011-08-02]. ←
14:53:12 <AndyS> ready for review: got one so far from Steve (thx): http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:KD-1
Andy Seaborne: ready for review: got one so far from Steve (thx): http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:KD-1 ←
14:53:39 <LeeF> I'm happy with KD-1 response
Lee Feigenbaum: I'm happy with KD-1 response ←
14:53:46 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: one typo, provide / provides
Axel Polleres: one typo, provide / provides ←
14:55:19 <SteveH> Zakim, who's speaking
Zakim, who's speaking ←
14:55:19 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's speaking', SteveH
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who's speaking', SteveH ←
14:55:21 <SteveH> Zakim, who's speaking?
Zakim, who's speaking? ←
14:55:33 <Zakim> SteveH, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: SteveH, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
14:56:29 <SteveH> AxelPolleres: several comments from michael schneider, will ask birte if she's willing to look
Axel Polleres: several comments from michael schneider, will ask birte if she's willing to look ←
14:56:59 <SteveH> … next time, would like to get back to test cases, please strive to complete relevant actions
… next time, would like to get back to test cases, please strive to complete relevant actions ←
14:57:09 <SteveH> … publication of fed query
… publication of fed query ←
14:57:24 <SteveH> AJOURNED
AJOURNED ←
14:57:31 <Zakim> -kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei ←
14:57:32 <Zakim> -MattPerry
Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry ←
14:57:32 <Zakim> -alex_
Zakim IRC Bot: -alex_ ←
14:57:35 <AndyS> bye all
Andy Seaborne: bye all ←
14:57:38 <MattPerry> bye
Matthew Perry: bye ←
14:57:38 <SteveH> bye
bye ←
14:57:39 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
14:57:41 <Zakim> -cbuilara
Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara ←
14:57:43 <Zakim> -pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: -pgearon ←
14:57:45 <NickH> Bye!
Nicholas Humfrey: Bye! ←
14:57:45 <Zakim> -SteveH
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH ←
14:57:48 <Zakim> -LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF ←
14:57:55 <Zakim> -NickH
Zakim IRC Bot: -NickH ←
14:58:08 <AxelPolleres> Steve, will you take care of publishing thr minutes?
Axel Polleres: Steve, will you take care of publishing thr minutes? ←
14:58:10 <SteveH> LeeF/AxelPolleres, can you remember how to make minutes?
LeeF/AxelPolleres, can you remember how to make minutes? ←
14:58:30 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual.html
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual.html ←
14:58:35 <SteveH> thanks
thanks ←
14:58:52 <SteveH> rrsagent, make records public
rrsagent, make records public ←
14:59:03 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/ --> quite self-explanatory
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/ --> quite self-explanatory ←
14:59:10 <AxelPolleres> thnks again for scribing, talk next week
Axel Polleres: thnks again for scribing, talk next week ←
14:59:20 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres?
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Zakim IRC Bot: -AxelPolleres? ←
14:59:21 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended ←
14:59:23 <Zakim> Attendees were NickH, +1.310.729.aaaa, kasei, +49.897.aabb, AxelPolleres?, cbuilara, AndyS, +1.603.897.aacc, MattPerry, alex_, pgearon, SteveH, +1.617.553.aaee, LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were NickH, +1.310.729.aaaa, kasei, +49.897.aabb, AxelPolleres?, cbuilara, AndyS, +1.603.897.aacc, MattPerry, alex_, pgearon, SteveH, +1.617.553.aaee, LeeF ←
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