SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 06 April 2010

Seen
Andy Seaborne, David Charboneau, Lee Feigenbaum, Matthew Perry, Orri Erling, Paul Gearon, Souripriya Das, Steve Harris
Chair
Lee Feigenbaum
Scribe
Lee Feigenbaum
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-30 link
  2. Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-25 link
  3. Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-26 link
Topics
14:06:14 <LeeF> Chair: LeeF
14:06:19 <LeeF> Scribenick: LeeF

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13:56:33 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/06-sparql-irc

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13:56:35 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

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13:56:37 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

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13:56:37 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes

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13:56:37 <LeeF> zakim, this will be SPARQL

zakim, this will be SPARQL

13:56:38 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:56:38 <trackbot> Date: 06 April 2010
13:56:38 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes

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13:58:17 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started

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13:58:24 <Zakim> +pgearon

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13:59:04 <Zakim> +LeeF

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14:00:14 <Zakim> +??P19

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14:00:20 <AndyS> zakim, ??P19 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P19 is me

14:00:20 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

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14:01:14 <Zakim> +??P21

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14:01:15 <Zakim> +mischat

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14:02:18 <MattPerry> I just joined through skype

Matthew Perry: I just joined through skype

14:02:20 <LeeF> zakim, mischat is temporarily SteveH

zakim, mischat is temporarily SteveH

14:02:20 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it

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14:02:30 <LeeF> zakim, ??P21 is MattPerry

zakim, ??P21 is MattPerry

14:02:30 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it

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14:02:37 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?

zakim, who's on the phone?

14:02:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see pgearon, LeeF, AndyS, MattPerry, SteveH

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see pgearon, LeeF, AndyS, MattPerry, SteveH

14:03:27 <LeeF> # PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-30

# PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-30

14:03:27 <LeeF> # PROPOSED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-25

# PROPOSED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-25

14:03:27 <LeeF> # PROPOSED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-26

# PROPOSED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-26

14:03:31 <SteveH> Zakim, SteveH is [Garlik]

Steve Harris: Zakim, SteveH is [Garlik]

14:03:31 <Zakim> +[Garlik]; got it

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14:03:44 <SteveH> Zakim, [Garlik] is temporarily SteveH

Steve Harris: Zakim, [Garlik] is temporarily SteveH

14:03:44 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it

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14:03:50 <Zakim> +dcharbon2

Zakim IRC Bot: +dcharbon2

14:04:05 <dcharbon2> Zakim, mute me

David Charboneau: Zakim, mute me

14:04:05 <Zakim> dcharbon2 should now be muted

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14:05:03 <Zakim> +Souri

Zakim IRC Bot: +Souri

14:06:10 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-30

PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-30

14:06:46 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-30

RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-30

14:06:52 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-25

PROPOSED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-25

14:07:31 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-25

RESOLVED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-25

14:07:41 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-26

PROPOSED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-26

14:08:10 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-26

RESOLVED: Approve F2F minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-03-26

14:09:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:09:42 <LeeF> zakim, IPCaller is Orri

zakim, IPCaller is Orri

14:09:42 <Zakim> +Orri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Orri; got it

14:10:05 <LeeF> LeeF: AndyS, are you planning to put together a proposal to move forward on the open property paths issues?

Lee Feigenbaum: AndyS, are you planning to put together a proposal to move forward on the open property paths issues?

14:10:08 <LeeF> AndyS: Yes, not sure when

Andy Seaborne: Yes, not sure when

14:10:13 <LeeF> LeeF: no time pressure, I don't think

Lee Feigenbaum: no time pressure, I don't think

14:11:57 <LeeF> topic: URIs for built-in SPARQL functions

1. URIs for built-in SPARQL functions

14:12:03 <pgearon> +q

Paul Gearon: +q

14:12:08 <LeeF> ack pgearon

ack pgearon

14:12:18 <LeeF> LeeF: AndyS raised issue of minting URIs for built-in SPARQL functions e.g. bound, coalesce, etc.

Lee Feigenbaum: AndyS raised issue of minting URIs for built-in SPARQL functions e.g. bound, coalesce, etc.

14:12:26 <LeeF> ... need to mind URIs and put documents at those URIs

... need to mind URIs and put documents at those URIs

14:13:07 <LeeF> pgearon: think I remember a discussion on a mailing list about a namespace for built-in SPARQL function URIs

Paul Gearon: think I remember a discussion on a mailing list about a namespace for built-in SPARQL function URIs

14:13:09 <LeeF> LeeF: where?

Lee Feigenbaum: where?

14:13:17 <LeeF> pgearon: maybe SIG list?

Paul Gearon: maybe SIG list?

14:13:52 <LeeF> LeeF: maybe it was on the sparql-dev list ?

Lee Feigenbaum: maybe it was on the sparql-dev list ?

14:14:11 <LeeF> pgearon: think it was a collection of interested people discussing it

Paul Gearon: think it was a collection of interested people discussing it

14:15:08 <LeeF> LeeF: i'll also search for previous discussion

Lee Feigenbaum: i'll also search for previous discussion

14:15:18 <LeeF> ... we need help from our team contacts to carve out appropriate location in W3C Web-space

... we need help from our team contacts to carve out appropriate location in W3C Web-space

14:16:25 <Zakim> -Orri

Zakim IRC Bot: -Orri

14:11:57 <LeeF> topic: Negation

2. Negation

14:20:45 <LeeF> LeeF: discussion of current state of negation discussions

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Lee Feigenbaum: discussion of current state of negation discussions

14:20:57 <LeeF> ... if we don't reach a consensus, will put it to a group vote

... if we don't reach a consensus, will put it to a group vote

14:21:04 <LeeF> ... continue discusison on mailing list as long as there is energy

... continue discusison on mailing list as long as there is energy

14:21:25 <LeeF> pgearon: implemented MINUS semantics, but appreciate leaning towards including both ways of doing it

Paul Gearon: implemented MINUS semantics, but appreciate leaning towards including both ways of doing it

14:22:08 <LeeF> SteveH: think what we have now is OK, not so worried about the scoping issue of a NOT EXISTS FILTER

Steve Harris: think what we have now is OK, not so worried about the scoping issue of a NOT EXISTS FILTER

14:23:39 <LeeF> LeeF: EricP put this draft together: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service

Lee Feigenbaum: EricP put this draft together: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service

14:23:45 <Souri> I like the F2F3 decision about MINUS / NOT EXISTS, but would like to understand the implications about its mobility within the containing BGP

Souripriya Das: I like the F2F3 decision about MINUS / NOT EXISTS, but would like to understand the implications about its mobility within the containing BGP

14:11:57 <LeeF> topic: Basic Federated Query Reviews

3. Basic Federated Query Reviews

14:24:57 <LeeF> LeeF: would like to have people review the federated query document

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Lee Feigenbaum: would like to have people review the federated query document

14:24:54 <dcharbon2> I can

David Charboneau: I can

14:25:00 <SteveH> ...ish

Steve Harris: ...ish

14:25:29 <LeeF> ACTION: dcharbon2 to review the federated query document at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service

ACTION: dcharbon2 to review the federated query document at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service

14:25:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-220 - Review the federated query document at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service  [on David Charboneau - due 2010-04-13].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-220 - Review the federated query document at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service [on David Charboneau - due 2010-04-13].

14:27:04 <AndyS> Bye all

Andy Seaborne: Bye all

14:27:08 <Zakim> -Souri

Zakim IRC Bot: -Souri

14:27:08 <dcharbon2> bye

David Charboneau: bye

14:27:09 <Zakim> -SteveH

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH

14:27:10 <MattPerry> bye

Matthew Perry: bye

14:27:11 <Zakim> -LeeF

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14:27:12 <Zakim> -dcharbon2

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14:27:16 <LeeF> Adjourned

Adjourned

14:27:18 <Zakim> -MattPerry

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