None.
<sandro> PRESENT: AxelPolleres, swh, bijan, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS_, EricP, kasei, Phil_Brooks, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, alepas, susie, orri, ywang
14:22:48 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #sparql
RRSAgent IRC Bot: RRSAgent has joined #sparql ←
14:22:48 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-irc ←
14:23:00 <LeeF> zakim, this will be sparql
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, this will be sparql ←
14:23:00 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, LeeF ←
14:23:22 <bijan> Bristol line seems down
Bijan Parsia: Bristol line seems down ←
14:23:31 <LeeF> lovely
Lee Feigenbaum: lovely ←
14:23:43 <bijan> My first attempt was 1) crackly and 2) didn't recognize the passcode
Bijan Parsia: My first attempt was 1) crackly and 2) didn't recognize the passcode ←
14:23:49 <bijan> My second attempt is just hitting nothing :(
Bijan Parsia: My second attempt is just hitting nothing :( ←
14:23:54 <LeeF> (trying to figure it out)
Lee Feigenbaum: (trying to figure it out) ←
14:24:13 <bijan> (still down)
Bijan Parsia: (still down) ←
14:24:27 <AndyS_> I looked out the window and Bristol is still there :-)
Andy Seaborne: I looked out the window and Bristol is still there :-) ←
14:24:41 <LeeF> Well at least we have one thing going for us :)
Lee Feigenbaum: Well at least we have one thing going for us :) ←
14:24:42 <bijan> Glad to hear it!
Bijan Parsia: Glad to hear it! ←
14:24:48 <bijan> It's a cool city!
Bijan Parsia: It's a cool city! ←
14:25:05 <AndyS_> I am too. More so probabaly.
Andy Seaborne: I am too. More so probabaly. ←
14:25:20 <bijan> Pfft...you're far enough from the centre
Bijan Parsia: Pfft...you're far enough from the centre ←
14:25:27 <bijan> A nuke would just toast you a bit :)
Bijan Parsia: A nuke would just toast you a bit :) ←
14:25:32 <AndyS_> I get "that code is not valid"
Andy Seaborne: I get "that code is not valid" ←
14:25:41 <bijan> I can't connect at all
Bijan Parsia: I can't connect at all ←
14:25:42 <swh> I got an ok line, but couldn't connect to 77277
Steve Harris: I got an ok line, but couldn't connect to 77277 ←
14:25:45 <iv_an_ru> At least people will prefer Bristol to Novosibirsk when we will vote for F2F site
Ivan Mikhailov: At least people will prefer Bristol to Novosibirsk when we will vote for F2F site ←
14:25:51 <swh> that's true
Steve Harris: that's true ←
14:26:00 <AndyS_> Code is not valid.
Andy Seaborne: Code is not valid. ←
14:26:06 <swh> ah, whats the right code?
Steve Harris: ah, whats the right code? ←
14:26:13 <LeeF> I'm guessing that, uh, it never got setup :( everybody hang on a bit
Lee Feigenbaum: I'm guessing that, uh, it never got setup :( everybody hang on a bit ←
14:26:15 <AxelPolleres> same here, couldn't connect to 77277
Axel Polleres: same here, couldn't connect to 77277 ←
14:26:26 <AndyS_> Right code - but does not work - see also the zakim "no confernce message"
Andy Seaborne: Right code - but does not work - see also the zakim "no confernce message" ←
14:26:42 <AndyS_> What was the DAWG code?
Andy Seaborne: What was the DAWG code? ←
14:26:49 <iv_an_ru> Isn't the code restricted to 4 numbers?
Ivan Mikhailov: Isn't the code restricted to 4 numbers? ←
14:26:56 <bijan> no
Bijan Parsia: no ←
14:26:57 <LeeF> iv_an_ru: no, some are 5
Ivan Mikhailov: no, some are 5 [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
14:27:10 <bijan> oo, a connection
Bijan Parsia: oo, a connection ←
14:27:17 <LeeF> I requested it last week, but don't remember seeing a confirmation.
Lee Feigenbaum: I requested it last week, but don't remember seeing a confirmation. ←
14:27:24 <LeeF> zakim, room for 25?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, room for 25? ←
14:27:25 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; conference Team_(sparql)14:27Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1527Z
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, LeeF; conference Team_(sparql)14:27Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1527Z ←
14:27:33 <bijan> I can call in now, but the passcode is borked
Bijan Parsia: I can call in now, but the passcode is borked ←
14:27:37 <LeeF> Let's use 26631
Lee Feigenbaum: Let's use 26631 ←
14:27:39 <Zakim> Team_(sparql)14:27Z has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: Team_(sparql)14:27Z has now started ←
14:27:41 <Zakim> +??P3
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3 ←
14:27:41 <LeeF> I will send an updated email
Lee Feigenbaum: I will send an updated email ←
14:27:56 <AndyS_> Now I get a ringing tone after Ralph's message
Andy Seaborne: Now I get a ringing tone after Ralph's message ←
14:28:12 <bijan> AndyS: I was getting that
Andy Seaborne: I was getting that [ Scribe Assist by Bijan Parsia ] ←
14:28:18 <iv_an_ru> Should I tell Orri that the code is 26631?
Ivan Mikhailov: Should I tell Orri that the code is 26631? ←
14:28:19 <Zakim> +??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2 ←
14:28:21 <Zakim> -??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P2 ←
14:28:21 <Zakim> +??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2 ←
14:28:22 <AxelPolleres> (just joined with passcode 26631)
Axel Polleres: (just joined with passcode 26631) ←
14:28:25 <swh> Zakim: ??P2 is GarlikNone
14:28:38 <Zakim> +??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4 ←
14:28:44 <Zakim> +??P5
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5 ←
14:28:49 <swh> Zakim, ??P2 is Garlik
Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P2 is Garlik ←
14:28:49 <Zakim> +Garlik; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Garlik; got it ←
14:28:51 <Zakim> +??P6
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6 ←
14:28:57 <bijan> zakim, ??p6 is me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, ??p6 is me ←
14:28:57 <Zakim> +bijan; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bijan; got it ←
14:29:02 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
14:29:02 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
14:29:06 <AndyS_> zakim, P4 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, P4 is me ←
14:29:06 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS_, I do not recognize a party named 'P4'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AndyS_, I do not recognize a party named 'P4' ←
14:29:08 <Zakim> +Lee_Feigenbaum
Zakim IRC Bot: +Lee_Feigenbaum ←
14:29:15 <AndyS_> zakim, ??P4 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P4 is me ←
14:29:15 <Zakim> +AndyS_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS_; got it ←
14:29:26 <AndyS_> zakim, mute me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, mute me ←
14:29:26 <Zakim> AndyS_ should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS_ should now be muted ←
14:29:31 <Zakim> + +1.518.276.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.518.276.aaaa ←
14:29:44 <ericP> if we restart, we shoudl get the code SPARQL
Eric Prud'hommeaux: if we restart, we shoudl get the code SPARQL ←
14:29:46 <AndyS_> zakim, unmute me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, unmute me ←
14:29:46 <Zakim> AndyS_ should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS_ should no longer be muted ←
14:29:51 <AndyS_> zakim, ??P5 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P5 is me ←
14:29:51 <Zakim> +AndyS_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS_; got it ←
14:29:55 <bijan> I think you have to drop off
Bijan Parsia: I think you have to drop off ←
14:29:59 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Zakim, please dial ericP-office ←
14:29:59 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ericP; the call is being made ←
14:30:01 <Zakim> +EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: +EricP ←
14:30:03 <bijan> You can use the hand wave feature
Bijan Parsia: You can use the hand wave feature ←
14:30:23 <AxelPolleres> zakim, who is talking?
Axel Polleres: zakim, who is talking? ←
14:30:33 <Zakim> AxelPolleres, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Garlik (10%), AndyS_ (26%), AndyS_.a (9%), Lee_Feigenbaum (15%)
Zakim IRC Bot: AxelPolleres, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Garlik (10%), AndyS_ (26%), AndyS_.a (9%), Lee_Feigenbaum (15%) ←
14:30:53 <alepas> Zakim: ??p4 is meNone
14:31:11 <LeeF> iv_an_ru: yes, please do relay 26631 to Orri
Ivan Mikhailov: yes, please do relay 26631 to Orri [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
14:31:15 <bijan> 41# will raise your hand
Bijan Parsia: 41# will raise your hand ←
14:31:16 <iv_an_ru> I did
Ivan Mikhailov: I did ←
14:31:21 <AndyS_> I'm P4!
Andy Seaborne: I'm P4! ←
14:31:31 <bijan> q-
Bijan Parsia: q- ←
14:31:41 <bijan> So if you don't know which P you are
Bijan Parsia: So if you don't know which P you are ←
14:31:42 <Zakim> +OpenLink
Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink ←
14:31:51 <bijan> Type on the keypad 41#
Bijan Parsia: Type on the keypad 41# ←
14:32:19 <bijan> q-
Bijan Parsia: q- ←
14:32:24 <LeeF> zakim, aaaa is kasei
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aaaa is kasei ←
14:32:24 <Zakim> +kasei; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +kasei; got it ←
14:32:32 <bijan> ack aaaa
Bijan Parsia: ack aaaa ←
14:32:36 <LeeF> zakim, who's here?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's here? ←
14:32:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, AndyS_, AndyS_.a, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, AndyS_, AndyS_.a, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink ←
14:32:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP ←
14:32:40 <Zakim> + +0383306aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +0383306aabb ←
14:32:43 <Zakim> + +1.415.371.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.415.371.aacc ←
14:32:46 <bijan> ack
Bijan Parsia: ack ←
14:33:01 <Zakim> +Phil_Brooks
Zakim IRC Bot: +Phil_Brooks ←
14:33:02 <iv_an_ru> Zakim, +0383306aabb is me
Ivan Mikhailov: Zakim, +0383306aabb is me ←
14:33:02 <Zakim> +iv_an_ru; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +iv_an_ru; got it ←
14:33:03 <LeeF> zakim, aacc is daveNewman
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aacc is daveNewman ←
14:33:03 <Zakim> +daveNewman; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +daveNewman; got it ←
14:33:13 <bijan> Note that the hand raise trick puts the person on the queue...chairs should clear it
Bijan Parsia: Note that the hand raise trick puts the person on the queue...chairs should clear it ←
14:33:20 <LeeF> q?
Lee Feigenbaum: q? ←
14:33:23 <LeeF> ack aaaa
Lee Feigenbaum: ack aaaa ←
14:33:28 <LeeF> q-
Lee Feigenbaum: q- ←
14:33:36 <LeeF> how? :)
Lee Feigenbaum: how? :) ←
14:33:37 <ericP> queue=
Eric Prud'hommeaux: queue= ←
14:33:37 <bijan> tracy ack
Bijan Parsia: tracy ack ←
14:33:42 <bijan> try ack
Bijan Parsia: try ack ←
14:33:48 <ericP> i just cleared it
Eric Prud'hommeaux: i just cleared it ←
14:33:54 <ericP> "queue="
Eric Prud'hommeaux: "queue=" ←
14:34:24 <Zakim> -AndyS_.a
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS_.a ←
14:34:35 <Zakim> -AndyS_
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS_ ←
14:34:38 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Zakim, who is here? ←
14:34:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, Phil_Brooks
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, Phil_Brooks ←
14:34:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP ←
14:35:15 <Zakim> +??P4
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4 ←
14:35:47 <LeeF> agenda +Introductions
Lee Feigenbaum: agenda +Introductions ←
14:35:47 <alepas> Zakim, i am ??p4
Alex Passant: Zakim, i am ??p4 ←
14:35:48 <Zakim> +alepas; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +alepas; got it ←
14:35:53 <LeeF> agenda +Our charter and time line
Lee Feigenbaum: agenda +Our charter and time line ←
14:35:59 <LeeF> agenda +What we all hope to get out of the working group
Lee Feigenbaum: agenda +What we all hope to get out of the working group ←
14:36:05 <LeeF> agenda +Scheduling teleconferences and a face-to-face meeting
Lee Feigenbaum: agenda +Scheduling teleconferences and a face-to-face meeting ←
14:36:41 <Zakim> +??P16
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16 ←
14:36:42 <Phil> Phil has joined #SPARQL
Phil Brooks: Phil has joined #SPARQL ←
14:36:47 <AndyS_> Now can't dial in to US number either : suggests it's not the Bristol number
Andy Seaborne: Now can't dial in to US number either : suggests it's not the Bristol number ←
14:36:59 <LeeF> zakim, ??P16 is AndyS_
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, ??P16 is AndyS_ ←
14:36:59 <Zakim> +AndyS_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS_; got it ←
14:36:59 <AndyS_> zakim, ??P16 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P16 is me ←
14:37:00 <Zakim> I already had ??P16 as AndyS_, AndyS_
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P16 as AndyS_, AndyS_ ←
14:37:11 <iv_an_ru> I wan unable to dial in to Nice
Ivan Mikhailov: I wan unable to dial in to Nice ←
14:37:20 <LeeF> zakim, who's here?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's here? ←
14:37:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, Phil_Brooks, alepas, AndyS_
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, Phil_Brooks, alepas, AndyS_ ←
14:37:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see Phil, RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Phil, RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP ←
14:38:53 <LeeF> Scribe: AndyS_
(Scribe set to Andy Seaborne)
14:39:28 <AndyS_> Introductions
Introductions ←
14:39:28 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki ←
14:39:43 <AndyS_> Round the phone:
Round the phone: ←
14:39:53 <AndyS_> Lee Feigenbaum
Lee Feigenbaum ←
14:40:07 <AxelPolleres> (please all who don't speak mute themselves, thnx.)
Axel Polleres: (please all who don't speak mute themselves, thnx.) ←
14:40:57 <AndyS_> Axel Polleres
Axel Polleres ←
14:41:26 <AndyS_> Lee and Axel are the group's co-chairs
Lee and Axel are the group's co-chairs ←
14:41:36 <kasei> Axel: is there a way to do that through the conf. system?
Axel Polleres: is there a way to do that through the conf. system? [ Scribe Assist by Greg Williams ] ←
14:41:49 <LeeF> kasei: you can type "zakim, mute me"
Greg Williams: you can type "zakim, mute me" [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
14:42:18 <AndyS_> Steve Harris
Steve Harris ←
14:42:34 <AxelPolleres> kasei, type "Zakim, mute me"
Axel Polleres: kasei, type "Zakim, mute me" ←
14:42:36 <Susie> Susie has joined #sparql
Susie Stephens: Susie has joined #sparql ←
14:43:14 <swh> "Luke Wilson-Mawer"
Steve Harris: "Luke Wilson-Mawer" ←
14:43:50 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
14:43:50 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted ←
14:43:55 <AndyS_> Bijan Parsia
Bijan Parsia ←
14:44:01 <kasei> zakim, mute me
Greg Williams: zakim, mute me ←
14:44:01 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should now be muted ←
14:45:10 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
14:45:10 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
14:45:13 <AxelPolleres> we'd kindly request people to also send intro mails to the mailing list, and also enter an introduction to the wiki (http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki).
Axel Polleres: we'd kindly request people to also send intro mails to the mailing list, and also enter an introduction to the wiki (http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki). ←
14:45:16 <kasei> zakim, unmute me
Greg Williams: zakim, unmute me ←
14:45:16 <Zakim> kasei should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should no longer be muted ←
14:45:21 <AndyS_> Greg Williams
Greg Williams ←
14:46:05 <kasei> zakim, mute me
Greg Williams: zakim, mute me ←
14:46:05 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should now be muted ←
14:46:12 <AndyS_> Eric Prud'hommeaux
Eric Prud'hommeaux ←
14:46:55 <AndyS_> W3C staff contacts: EricP and Ivan Herman
W3C staff contacts: EricP and Ivan Herman ←
14:47:12 <AndyS_> Orri Erling
Orri Erling ←
14:47:27 <AndyS_> Ivan Mikhailov
Ivan Mikhailov ←
14:47:37 <AxelPolleres> orri and ivan on the same phone line (for attendees list)
Axel Polleres: orri and ivan on the same phone line (for attendees list) ←
14:48:14 <iv_an_ru> Orri is at Utrecht and I'm in Novosibirsk, I guess that lines differ.
Ivan Mikhailov: Orri is at Utrecht and I'm in Novosibirsk, I guess that lines differ. ←
14:49:39 <AndyS_> Dave Newman
Dave Newman ←
14:50:11 <AndyS_> (Dan Schutzer not attending today)
(Dan Schutzer not attending today) ←
14:51:02 <AndyS_> Phil Brooks
Phil Brooks ←
14:52:30 <Phil> Hi, Bijan!
Phil Brooks: Hi, Bijan! ←
14:52:33 <Phil> Jenna Zhou
Phil Brooks: Jenna Zhou ←
14:53:00 <AndyS_> Alex Passant
Alex Passant ←
14:53:33 <LeeF> Andy Seaborne
Lee Feigenbaum: Andy Seaborne ←
14:53:37 <AxelPolleres> On http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=35463 I don't see yet all of the people here.
Axel Polleres: On http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=35463 I don't see yet all of the people here. ←
14:54:04 <bijan> +1 to AndyS speed point
Bijan Parsia: +1 to AndyS speed point ←
14:54:16 <swh> +1
Steve Harris: +1 ←
14:55:55 <bijan> Oops. Manchester is likely to have a second person as well, someone who's been heavily involved with a joint UManchester/Seimans project
Bijan Parsia: Oops. Manchester is likely to have a second person as well, someone who's been heavily involved with a joint UManchester/Seimans project ←
14:56:10 <AndyS_> HP will be represented by two people: Andy Seaborne and Ahmed Ezzat
HP will be represented by two people: Andy Seaborne and Ahmed Ezzat ←
14:57:16 <AndyS_> Weekly telecon : discussion on timing
Weekly telecon : discussion on timing ←
14:57:43 <AndyS_> Issue: PST is 06:30 and we have people on the west coast
ISSUE: PST is 06:30 and we have people on the west coast ←
14:58:01 <AxelPolleres> (when typing, please mute yourselves)
Axel Polleres: (when typing, please mute yourselves) ←
14:58:32 <AndyS_> Also clash with RIF calls just after SPARQL
Also clash with RIF calls just after SPARQL ←
14:58:48 <AndyS_> LeeF: Meetings usually an hour
Lee Feigenbaum: Meetings usually an hour ←
14:59:17 <AndyS_> Dave: 7am is OK
Dave Newman: 7am is OK ←
14:59:38 <Zakim> -daveNewman
Zakim IRC Bot: -daveNewman ←
15:00:11 <AndyS_> LeeF: Suggestion 15:00Z
Lee Feigenbaum: Suggestion 15:00Z ←
15:00:34 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
15:00:34 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted ←
15:00:35 <AndyS_> AxelPolleres: then limits me to one hour due to RIF
Axel Polleres: then limits me to one hour due to RIF ←
15:01:11 <AndyS_> 15:00Z = 10am EST = 7am PST until clocks change
15:00Z = 10am EST = 7am PST until clocks change ←
15:01:33 <AndyS_> Bijan: teach some of those slots but UManchester will have two people.
Bijan Parsia: teach some of those slots but UManchester will have two people. ←
15:01:34 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
15:01:40 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
15:01:57 <bijan> I appreciate the chairs consideration
Bijan Parsia: I appreciate the chairs consideration ←
15:02:30 <AndyS_> LeeF: Days other than Tuesday is tricky for chairs/staff contacts
Lee Feigenbaum: Days other than Tuesday is tricky for chairs/staff contacts ←
15:02:47 <bijan> If the chairs are willing for asynch feedback from me on the days that I can't attend, I would be grateful
Bijan Parsia: If the chairs are willing for asynch feedback from me on the days that I can't attend, I would be grateful ←
15:02:55 <AndyS_> Phil: 10am OK but Singapore would be a problem.
Phil Brooks: 10am OK but Singapore would be a problem. ←
15:02:56 <LeeF> Very happy for async feedback
Lee Feigenbaum: Very happy for async feedback ←
15:04:04 <LeeF> agenda?
Lee Feigenbaum: agenda? ←
15:04:06 <AndyS_> LeeF: For now, 15:00Z telecons -- 10am EST -- 7am PST
Lee Feigenbaum: For now, 15:00Z telecons -- 10am EST -- 7am PST ←
15:04:39 <swh> http://www.w3.org/2009/01/sparql-charter
Steve Harris: http://www.w3.org/2009/01/sparql-charter ←
15:04:58 <AndyS_> Charter discussion
Charter discussion ←
15:05:12 <AndyS_> LeeF: 18 months running time.
Lee Feigenbaum: 18 months running time. ←
15:05:24 <AndyS_> ... key point
... key point ←
15:05:39 <AndyS_> ... RECs from last time (QL, Protocol, Results)
... RECs from last time (QL, Protocol, Results) ←
15:06:20 <AndyS_> ... also JSON Results format -- WG Note
... also JSON Results format -- WG Note ←
15:07:00 <AndyS_> ... charter for adding key features for users; things that have been impelemnted and used sufficiently widely
... charter for adding key features for users; things that have been impelemnted and used sufficiently widely ←
15:07:31 <AndyS_> ... all SPARQL v1 queries shouldl be the same
... all SPARQL v1 queries shouldl be the same ←
15:07:48 <AndyS_> ... scope suggestions:
... scope suggestions: ←
15:07:52 <AndyS_> ... update and delete
... update and delete ←
15:08:11 <AndyS_> ... aggregate functions
... aggregate functions ←
15:08:24 <AndyS_> ... new filters and functions
... new filters and functions ←
15:08:37 <AndyS_> ... interoperability (e.g. service description)
... interoperability (e.g. service description) ←
15:08:50 <AndyS_> ... describe inference regime
... describe inference regime ←
15:08:59 <AndyS_> ... make DESCRIBE more interoperable
... make DESCRIBE more interoperable ←
15:09:13 <AndyS_> ... (was non-normative in REC)
... (was non-normative in REC) ←
15:09:25 <AndyS_> ... consider an XML syntax for SPARQL
... consider an XML syntax for SPARQL ←
15:09:57 <swh> (project named expressions was missed I think)
Steve Harris: (project named expressions was missed I think) ←
15:10:00 <AndyS_> ... next week : round table for members to state what they see needed
... next week : round table for members to state what they see needed ←
15:10:36 <AndyS_> EricP: Do some to meet schedule then flesh out if more time
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Do some to meet schedule then flesh out if more time ←
15:11:00 <AndyS_> LeeF: step one is UC&R (2 minths - maybe 6 weeks) will fix the features
Lee Feigenbaum: step one is UC&R (2 minths - maybe 6 weeks) will fix the features ←
15:11:15 <AndyS_> ... charter says prioritize
... charter says prioritize ←
15:12:43 <iv_an_ru> Shouldn't we make a table with row per feature and column per implementation, to enumerate SPARQL extensions do we have implemented already?
Ivan Mikhailov: Shouldn't we make a table with row per feature and column per implementation, to enumerate SPARQL extensions do we have implemented already? ←
15:12:57 <iv_an_ru> in a wiki
Ivan Mikhailov: in a wiki ←
15:12:59 <AndyS_> AxelPolleres: after 6 weeks we can close the feature set to stay on schedule
Axel Polleres: after 6 weeks we can close the feature set to stay on schedule ←
15:13:27 <AndyS_> Orri: Implemented extensions - will submit the prioritized extensions
Orri Erling: Implemented extensions - will submit the prioritized extensions ←
15:13:50 <AndyS_> LeeF: Want to gather what's out there
Lee Feigenbaum: Want to gather what's out there ←
15:14:02 <AndyS_> ... inc popularity
... inc popularity ←
15:14:13 <AndyS_> ... then juggle.
... then juggle. ←
15:14:32 <AndyS_> ... Other deliverables: REC updates
... Other deliverables: REC updates ←
15:14:43 <AndyS_> ... already one month late :-)
... already one month late :-) ←
15:14:48 <AndyS_> (Only??!!)
(Only??!!) ←
15:15:02 <ywang4> ywang4 has joined #sparql
Yimin Wang: ywang4 has joined #sparql ←
15:15:27 <AndyS_> LeeF: Travel may be an issue (economic issues)
Lee Feigenbaum: Travel may be an issue (economic issues) ←
15:15:33 <AndyS_> ... likely less F2F
... likely less F2F ←
15:15:37 <AndyS_> q+
q+ ←
15:15:51 <swh> q+
Steve Harris: q+ ←
15:15:54 <AndyS_> ... first F2F around end of UC&R
... first F2F around end of UC&R ←
15:16:26 <LeeF> ack AndyS_
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AndyS_ ←
15:16:37 <bijan> +1 to AndyS
Bijan Parsia: +1 to AndyS ←
15:16:53 <bijan> I've done a bunch of remote F2F participation
Bijan Parsia: I've done a bunch of remote F2F participation ←
15:17:12 <LeeF> ack swh
Lee Feigenbaum: ack swh ←
15:17:15 <bijan> I'd even go down to bristol or host UK folks so we have some "nodes" of f2f particpating at weird hours
Bijan Parsia: I'd even go down to bristol or host UK folks so we have some "nodes" of f2f particpating at weird hours ←
15:17:16 <AndyS_> AndyS_: virtual F2F : will set aside time to attend properly even if remote
Andy Seaborne: virtual F2F : will set aside time to attend properly even if remote ←
15:17:33 <bijan> Manchester has a nice room for telepresence
Bijan Parsia: Manchester has a nice room for telepresence ←
15:17:40 <bijan> The "Access Grid"
Bijan Parsia: The "Access Grid" ←
15:17:53 <swh> +1
Steve Harris: +1 ←
15:18:57 <swh> may 5,6,7 is ok for me
Steve Harris: may 5,6,7 is ok for me ←
15:19:15 <AndyS_> LeeF: timing: 1st week May (5th May ish)
Lee Feigenbaum: timing: 1st week May (5th May ish) ←
15:19:31 <AndyS_> ... Location: Boston
... Location: Boston ←
15:19:42 <ywang4> Hi, i just got here. May 4-6 are best for me
Yimin Wang: Hi, i just got here. May 4-6 are best for me ←
15:19:45 <AndyS_> ... maybe other links (e.g.UK)
... maybe other links (e.g.UK) ←
15:19:57 <ywang4> it's Yimin from Lilly
Yimin Wang: it's Yimin from Lilly ←
15:20:02 <bijan> Not great for me
Bijan Parsia: Not great for me ←
15:20:19 <iv_an_ru> May 1-10 is not very convenient for me but I'm probably missing F2f anyway.
Ivan Mikhailov: May 1-10 is not very convenient for me but I'm probably missing F2f anyway. ←
15:20:25 <AndyS_> Looks OK at the moment
Looks OK at the moment ←
15:20:36 <bijan> Mon-tues much worse than wed-fri
Bijan Parsia: Mon-tues much worse than wed-fri ←
15:20:52 <AndyS_> (how many Lilly people are there in the WG?)
(how many Lilly people are there in the WG?) ←
15:21:22 <ywang4> I think Susie and me here
Yimin Wang: I think Susie and me here ←
15:21:29 <Phil> Plus Phil and Jenna
Phil Brooks: Plus Phil and Jenna ←
15:21:51 <AndyS_> LeeF: will try for 5&6 May
Lee Feigenbaum: will try for 5&6 May ←
15:21:53 <Phil> Jenna, though, may not participate quite as often
Phil Brooks: Jenna, though, may not participate quite as often ←
15:21:58 <AndyS_> ... will take to email
... will take to email ←
15:22:13 <AndyS_> Axel: WBS
Axel Polleres: WBS ←
15:23:18 <ywang4> Hi Phil, I didn't notice you are here as well
Yimin Wang: Hi Phil, I didn't notice you are here as well ←
15:23:49 <AndyS_> LeeF: Comments and questions?
Lee Feigenbaum: Comments and questions? ←
15:24:14 <AndyS_> AxelPolleres: Self-intros to the list
Axel Polleres: Self-intros to the list ←
15:24:55 <AxelPolleres> Please all send self-introductions until next week.
Axel Polleres: Please all send self-introductions until next week. ←
15:25:07 <AndyS_> LeeF: Chairs will seek out editors for documents over time
Lee Feigenbaum: Chairs will seek out editors for documents over time ←
15:25:39 <AndyS_> End of meeting
End of meeting ←
15:25:46 <Zakim> -bijan
Zakim IRC Bot: -bijan ←
15:26:04 <AndyS_> EricP - can you remind of the minutes magic?
EricP - can you remind of the minutes magic? ←
15:26:39 <AxelPolleres> zakim, list attendees
Axel Polleres: zakim, list attendees ←
15:26:39 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS_, +1.518.276.aaaa, EricP, OpenLink, kasei, +1.415.371.aacc, Phil_Brooks, iv_an_ru,
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS_, +1.518.276.aaaa, EricP, OpenLink, kasei, +1.415.371.aacc, Phil_Brooks, iv_an_ru, ←
15:26:42 <Zakim> ... daveNewman, alepas
Zakim IRC Bot: ... daveNewman, alepas ←
15:26:58 <LeeF> AndyS, I will take care of the minutes and get them online
Lee Feigenbaum: AndyS, I will take care of the minutes and get them online ←
15:27:24 <LeeF> RRSAgent, draft minutes please
Lee Feigenbaum: RRSAgent, draft minutes please ←
15:27:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-minutes.html LeeF
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-minutes.html LeeF ←
15:27:31 <LeeF> RRSAgent, make logs world
Lee Feigenbaum: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
15:27:32 <bijan> bijan has left #sparql
Bijan Parsia: bijan has left #sparql ←
15:27:33 <AndyS_> LeeF - thx.
LeeF - thx. ←
15:28:58 <AxelPolleres> who is ywang4? thanks!
Axel Polleres: who is ywang4? thanks! ←
15:29:07 <ywang4> Yimin Wang
Yimin Wang: Yimin Wang ←
15:29:10 <ericP> luke.wilson-mawer@garlik.com
Eric Prud'hommeaux: luke.wilson-mawer@garlik.com ←
15:29:11 <ywang4> from Lilly Singapore
Yimin Wang: from Lilly Singapore ←
15:29:11 <LeeF> ywang4 is Yimin Wang from Eli Lilly
Lee Feigenbaum: ywang4 is Yimin Wang from Eli Lilly ←
15:29:49 <ericP> From: Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net>
Eric Prud'hommeaux: From: Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net> ←
15:29:49 <ericP> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:54:36 -0500
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:54:36 -0500 ←
15:29:49 <ericP> To: 'SPARQL Working Group' <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
Eric Prud'hommeaux: To: 'SPARQL Working Group' <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org> ←
15:29:49 <ericP> Subject: First SPARQL Working Group Meeting - Tues. Feb 24th
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Subject: First SPARQL Working Group Meeting - Tues. Feb 24th ←
15:29:49 <ericP> Message-ID: <499C4B5C.6010202@thefigtrees.net>
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Message-ID: <499C4B5C.6010202@thefigtrees.net> ←
15:29:51 <ericP> Resent-From: public-rdf-dawg@w3.org
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Resent-From: public-rdf-dawg@w3.org ←
15:29:53 <ericP> Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:55:29 +0000
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:55:29 +0000 ←
15:30:06 <LeeF> Yimin, before you joined, we agreed to have our weekly calls at 15:00Z on Tuesdays - I know that that is quite late for you - do you think you still might be able to participate? (trying to balance time zones)
Lee Feigenbaum: Yimin, before you joined, we agreed to have our weekly calls at 15:00Z on Tuesdays - I know that that is quite late for you - do you think you still might be able to participate? (trying to balance time zones) ←
15:30:25 <ywang4> Should be no problem
Yimin Wang: Should be no problem ←
15:30:52 <ericP> j_phil_brooks@lilly.com
Eric Prud'hommeaux: j_phil_brooks@lilly.com ←
15:31:36 <LeeF> thanks, Yimin :)
Lee Feigenbaum: thanks, Yimin :) ←
15:32:12 <ericP> ywang4, could you post me your email address?
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ywang4, could you post me your email address? ←
15:32:34 <ywang4> wangyimin@lilly.com
Yimin Wang: wangyimin@lilly.com ←
15:33:31 <Zakim> -OpenLink
Zakim IRC Bot: -OpenLink ←
15:33:42 <ywang4> so it looks like the f2f meeting will be 5 and 6 May at Boston?
Yimin Wang: so it looks like the f2f meeting will be 5 and 6 May at Boston? ←
15:34:37 <iv_an_ru> I would be nice to know the date/place in advance due to visa headache.
Ivan Mikhailov: I would be nice to know the date/place in advance due to visa headache. ←
15:34:40 <LeeF> That's my best guess at the moment, Yimin, but we'll decide in the next week or two
Lee Feigenbaum: That's my best guess at the moment, Yimin, but we'll decide in the next week or two ←
15:34:53 <Zakim> -Phil_Brooks
Zakim IRC Bot: -Phil_Brooks ←
15:34:54 <Zakim> -Lee_Feigenbaum
Zakim IRC Bot: -Lee_Feigenbaum ←
15:34:57 <Zakim> -iv_an_ru
Zakim IRC Bot: -iv_an_ru ←
15:34:59 <Zakim> -kasei
Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei ←
15:35:03 <Zakim> -alepas
Zakim IRC Bot: -alepas ←
15:35:09 <Zakim> -Garlik
Zakim IRC Bot: -Garlik ←
15:35:14 <Zakim> -EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: -EricP ←
15:35:19 <Zakim> -AndyS_
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS_ ←
15:35:23 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres
Zakim IRC Bot: -AxelPolleres ←
15:35:23 <Zakim> Team_(sparql)14:27Z has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: Team_(sparql)14:27Z has ended ←
15:35:24 <Zakim> Attendees were AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS_, +1.518.276.aaaa, EricP, OpenLink, kasei, +1.415.371.aacc, Phil_Brooks, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, alepas
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS_, +1.518.276.aaaa, EricP, OpenLink, kasei, +1.415.371.aacc, Phil_Brooks, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, alepas ←
15:35:47 <AxelPolleres> AxelPolleres has left #sparql
Axel Polleres: AxelPolleres has left #sparql ←
15:37:52 <ywang4> I see, I will proceed with these dates
Yimin Wang: I see, I will proceed with these dates ←
15:38:45 <LeeF> iv_an_ru, if we settle it for sure in one or two weeks, does that give you enough time?
Lee Feigenbaum: iv_an_ru, if we settle it for sure in one or two weeks, does that give you enough time? ←
15:40:02 <ywang4> ywang4 has left #sparql
Yimin Wang: ywang4 has left #sparql ←
15:41:39 <swh_> swh_ has joined #sparql
Steve Harris: swh_ has joined #sparql ←
15:42:52 <LeeF> ericP, can you setup our calls going forward for 10:00AM ET with code 77277?
Lee Feigenbaum: ericP, can you setup our calls going forward for 10:00AM ET with code 77277? ←
16:03:35 <ericP> yep
(No events recorded for 20 minutes)
Eric Prud'hommeaux: yep ←
16:14:12 <LeeF> grazie
(No events recorded for 10 minutes)
Lee Feigenbaum: grazie ←
16:24:15 <kasei> kasei has left #sparql
(No events recorded for 10 minutes)
Greg Williams: kasei has left #sparql ←
17:23:12 <LeeF> LeeF has joined #sparql
(No events recorded for 58 minutes)
Lee Feigenbaum: LeeF has joined #sparql ←
This revision (#1) generated 2009-03-03 00:10:55 UTC by 'sandro', comments: 'scribe errors taken care of -- still needs topics, etc.'