SPARQL Working Group

Minutes of 24 February 2009

Present
Axel Polleres Steve Harris Bijan Parsia Lee Feigenbaum Andy Seaborne Eric Prud'hommeaux Greg Williams Phil Brooks Ivan Mikhailov Dave Newman Alex Passant Susie Stephens Orri Erling Yimin Wang
Scribe
Andy Seaborne
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions

None.

Topics
<sandro> PRESENT: AxelPolleres, swh, bijan, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS_, EricP, kasei, Phil_Brooks, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, alepas, susie, orri, ywang
14:22:48 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #sparql

RRSAgent IRC Bot: RRSAgent has joined #sparql

14:22:48 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-irc

14:23:00 <LeeF> zakim, this will be sparql

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, this will be sparql

14:23:00 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, LeeF

Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, LeeF

14:23:22 <bijan> Bristol line seems down

Bijan Parsia: Bristol line seems down

14:23:31 <LeeF> lovely

Lee Feigenbaum: lovely

14:23:43 <bijan> My first attempt was 1) crackly and 2) didn't recognize the passcode

Bijan Parsia: My first attempt was 1) crackly and 2) didn't recognize the passcode

14:23:49 <bijan> My second attempt is just hitting nothing :(

Bijan Parsia: My second attempt is just hitting nothing :(

14:23:54 <LeeF> (trying to figure it out)

Lee Feigenbaum: (trying to figure it out)

14:24:13 <bijan> (still down)

Bijan Parsia: (still down)

14:24:27 <AndyS_> I looked out the window and Bristol is still there :-)

Andy Seaborne: I looked out the window and Bristol is still there :-)

14:24:41 <LeeF> Well at least we have one thing going for us :)

Lee Feigenbaum: Well at least we have one thing going for us :)

14:24:42 <bijan> Glad to hear it!

Bijan Parsia: Glad to hear it!

14:24:48 <bijan> It's a cool city!

Bijan Parsia: It's a cool city!

14:25:05 <AndyS_> I am too.  More so probabaly.

Andy Seaborne: I am too. More so probabaly.

14:25:20 <bijan> Pfft...you're far enough from the centre

Bijan Parsia: Pfft...you're far enough from the centre

14:25:27 <bijan> A nuke would just toast you a bit :)

Bijan Parsia: A nuke would just toast you a bit :)

14:25:32 <AndyS_> I get "that code is not valid"

Andy Seaborne: I get "that code is not valid"

14:25:41 <bijan> I can't connect at all

Bijan Parsia: I can't connect at all

14:25:42 <swh> I got an ok line, but couldn't connect to 77277

Steve Harris: I got an ok line, but couldn't connect to 77277

14:25:45 <iv_an_ru> At least people will prefer Bristol to Novosibirsk when we will vote for F2F site

Ivan Mikhailov: At least people will prefer Bristol to Novosibirsk when we will vote for F2F site

14:25:51 <swh> that's true

Steve Harris: that's true

14:26:00 <AndyS_> Code is not valid.

Andy Seaborne: Code is not valid.

14:26:06 <swh> ah, whats the right code?

Steve Harris: ah, whats the right code?

14:26:13 <LeeF> I'm guessing that, uh, it never got setup :( everybody hang on a bit

Lee Feigenbaum: I'm guessing that, uh, it never got setup :( everybody hang on a bit

14:26:15 <AxelPolleres> same here, couldn't connect to 77277

Axel Polleres: same here, couldn't connect to 77277

14:26:26 <AndyS_> Right code - but does not work - see also the zakim "no confernce message"

Andy Seaborne: Right code - but does not work - see also the zakim "no confernce message"

14:26:42 <AndyS_> What was the DAWG code?

Andy Seaborne: What was the DAWG code?

14:26:49 <iv_an_ru> Isn't the code restricted to 4 numbers?

Ivan Mikhailov: Isn't the code restricted to 4 numbers?

14:26:56 <bijan> no

Bijan Parsia: no

14:26:57 <LeeF> iv_an_ru: no, some are 5

Ivan Mikhailov: no, some are 5 [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ]

14:27:10 <bijan> oo, a connection

Bijan Parsia: oo, a connection

14:27:17 <LeeF> I requested it last week, but don't remember seeing a confirmation.

Lee Feigenbaum: I requested it last week, but don't remember seeing a confirmation.

14:27:24 <LeeF> zakim, room for 25?

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, room for 25?

14:27:25 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; conference Team_(sparql)14:27Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1527Z

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, LeeF; conference Team_(sparql)14:27Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1527Z

14:27:33 <bijan> I can call in now, but the passcode is borked

Bijan Parsia: I can call in now, but the passcode is borked

14:27:37 <LeeF> Let's use 26631

Lee Feigenbaum: Let's use 26631

14:27:39 <Zakim> Team_(sparql)14:27Z has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: Team_(sparql)14:27Z has now started

14:27:41 <Zakim> +??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3

14:27:41 <LeeF> I will send an updated email

Lee Feigenbaum: I will send an updated email

14:27:56 <AndyS_> Now I get a ringing tone after Ralph's message

Andy Seaborne: Now I get a ringing tone after Ralph's message

14:28:12 <bijan> AndyS:  I was getting that

Andy Seaborne: I was getting that [ Scribe Assist by Bijan Parsia ]

14:28:18 <iv_an_ru> Should I tell Orri that the code is 26631?

Ivan Mikhailov: Should I tell Orri that the code is 26631?

14:28:19 <Zakim> +??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2

14:28:21 <Zakim> -??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P2

14:28:21 <Zakim> +??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2

14:28:22 <AxelPolleres> (just joined with passcode 26631)

Axel Polleres: (just joined with passcode 26631)

14:28:25 <swh> Zakim: ??P2 is Garlik
None
14:28:38 <Zakim> +??P4

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4

14:28:44 <Zakim> +??P5

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5

14:28:49 <swh> Zakim, ??P2 is Garlik

Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P2 is Garlik

14:28:49 <Zakim> +Garlik; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Garlik; got it

14:28:51 <Zakim> +??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6

14:28:57 <bijan> zakim, ??p6 is me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, ??p6 is me

14:28:57 <Zakim> +bijan; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bijan; got it

14:29:02 <bijan> zakim, mute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me

14:29:02 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted

14:29:06 <AndyS_> zakim, P4 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, P4 is me

14:29:06 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS_, I do not recognize a party named 'P4'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AndyS_, I do not recognize a party named 'P4'

14:29:08 <Zakim> +Lee_Feigenbaum

Zakim IRC Bot: +Lee_Feigenbaum

14:29:15 <AndyS_> zakim, ??P4 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P4 is me

14:29:15 <Zakim> +AndyS_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS_; got it

14:29:26 <AndyS_> zakim, mute me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, mute me

14:29:26 <Zakim> AndyS_ should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS_ should now be muted

14:29:31 <Zakim> + +1.518.276.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.518.276.aaaa

14:29:44 <ericP> if we restart, we shoudl get the code SPARQL

Eric Prud'hommeaux: if we restart, we shoudl get the code SPARQL

14:29:46 <AndyS_> zakim, unmute me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, unmute me

14:29:46 <Zakim> AndyS_ should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS_ should no longer be muted

14:29:51 <AndyS_> zakim, ??P5 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P5 is me

14:29:51 <Zakim> +AndyS_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS_; got it

14:29:55 <bijan> I think you have to drop off

Bijan Parsia: I think you have to drop off

14:29:59 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Zakim, please dial ericP-office

14:29:59 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ericP; the call is being made

14:30:01 <Zakim> +EricP

Zakim IRC Bot: +EricP

14:30:03 <bijan> You can use the hand wave feature

Bijan Parsia: You can use the hand wave feature

14:30:23 <AxelPolleres> zakim, who is talking?

Axel Polleres: zakim, who is talking?

14:30:33 <Zakim> AxelPolleres, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Garlik (10%), AndyS_ (26%), AndyS_.a (9%), Lee_Feigenbaum (15%)

Zakim IRC Bot: AxelPolleres, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Garlik (10%), AndyS_ (26%), AndyS_.a (9%), Lee_Feigenbaum (15%)

14:30:53 <alepas> Zakim: ??p4 is me
None
14:31:11 <LeeF> iv_an_ru: yes, please do relay 26631 to Orri

Ivan Mikhailov: yes, please do relay 26631 to Orri [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ]

14:31:15 <bijan> 41# will raise your hand

Bijan Parsia: 41# will raise your hand

14:31:16 <iv_an_ru> I did

Ivan Mikhailov: I did

14:31:21 <AndyS_> I'm P4!

Andy Seaborne: I'm P4!

14:31:31 <bijan> q-

Bijan Parsia: q-

14:31:41 <bijan> So if you don't know which P you are

Bijan Parsia: So if you don't know which P you are

14:31:42 <Zakim> +OpenLink

Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink

14:31:51 <bijan> Type on the keypad 41#

Bijan Parsia: Type on the keypad 41#

14:32:19 <bijan> q-

Bijan Parsia: q-

14:32:24 <LeeF> zakim, aaaa is kasei

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aaaa is kasei

14:32:24 <Zakim> +kasei; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +kasei; got it

14:32:32 <bijan> ack aaaa

Bijan Parsia: ack aaaa

14:32:36 <LeeF> zakim, who's here?

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's here?

14:32:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, AndyS_, AndyS_.a, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, AndyS_, AndyS_.a, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink

14:32:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP

14:32:40 <Zakim> + +0383306aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +0383306aabb

14:32:43 <Zakim> + +1.415.371.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.415.371.aacc

14:32:46 <bijan> ack

Bijan Parsia: ack

14:33:01 <Zakim> +Phil_Brooks

Zakim IRC Bot: +Phil_Brooks

14:33:02 <iv_an_ru> Zakim, +0383306aabb is me

Ivan Mikhailov: Zakim, +0383306aabb is me

14:33:02 <Zakim> +iv_an_ru; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +iv_an_ru; got it

14:33:03 <LeeF> zakim, aacc is daveNewman

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aacc is daveNewman

14:33:03 <Zakim> +daveNewman; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +daveNewman; got it

14:33:13 <bijan> Note that the hand raise trick puts the person on the queue...chairs should clear it

Bijan Parsia: Note that the hand raise trick puts the person on the queue...chairs should clear it

14:33:20 <LeeF> q?

Lee Feigenbaum: q?

14:33:23 <LeeF> ack aaaa

Lee Feigenbaum: ack aaaa

14:33:28 <LeeF> q-

Lee Feigenbaum: q-

14:33:36 <LeeF> how? :)

Lee Feigenbaum: how? :)

14:33:37 <ericP> queue=

Eric Prud'hommeaux: queue=

14:33:37 <bijan> tracy ack

Bijan Parsia: tracy ack

14:33:42 <bijan> try ack

Bijan Parsia: try ack

14:33:48 <ericP> i just cleared it

Eric Prud'hommeaux: i just cleared it

14:33:54 <ericP> "queue="

Eric Prud'hommeaux: "queue="

14:34:24 <Zakim> -AndyS_.a

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS_.a

14:34:35 <Zakim> -AndyS_

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS_

14:34:38 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Zakim, who is here?

14:34:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, Phil_Brooks

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, Phil_Brooks

14:34:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP

14:35:15 <Zakim> +??P4

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P4

14:35:47 <LeeF> agenda +Introductions

Lee Feigenbaum: agenda +Introductions

14:35:47 <alepas> Zakim, i am ??p4

Alex Passant: Zakim, i am ??p4

14:35:48 <Zakim> +alepas; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +alepas; got it

14:35:53 <LeeF> agenda +Our charter and time line

Lee Feigenbaum: agenda +Our charter and time line

14:35:59 <LeeF> agenda +What we all hope to get out of the working group

Lee Feigenbaum: agenda +What we all hope to get out of the working group

14:36:05 <LeeF> agenda +Scheduling teleconferences and a face-to-face meeting

Lee Feigenbaum: agenda +Scheduling teleconferences and a face-to-face meeting

14:36:41 <Zakim> +??P16

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16

14:36:42 <Phil> Phil has joined #SPARQL

Phil Brooks: Phil has joined #SPARQL

14:36:47 <AndyS_> Now can't dial in to US number either : suggests it's not the Bristol number

Andy Seaborne: Now can't dial in to US number either : suggests it's not the Bristol number

14:36:59 <LeeF> zakim, ??P16 is AndyS_

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, ??P16 is AndyS_

14:36:59 <Zakim> +AndyS_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS_; got it

14:36:59 <AndyS_> zakim, ??P16 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P16 is me

14:37:00 <Zakim> I already had ??P16 as AndyS_, AndyS_

Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P16 as AndyS_, AndyS_

14:37:11 <iv_an_ru> I wan unable to dial in to Nice

Ivan Mikhailov: I wan unable to dial in to Nice

14:37:20 <LeeF> zakim, who's here?

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's here?

14:37:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, Phil_Brooks, alepas, AndyS_

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan (muted), Lee_Feigenbaum, kasei, EricP, OpenLink, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, Phil_Brooks, alepas, AndyS_

14:37:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see Phil, RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Phil, RRSAgent, Zakim, alepas, AndyS_, swh, kasei, AxelPolleres, iv_an_ru, bijan, AndyS, LeeF, ericP

14:38:53 <LeeF> Scribe: AndyS_

(Scribe set to Andy Seaborne)

14:39:28 <AndyS_> Introductions

Introductions

14:39:28 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki

Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki

14:39:43 <AndyS_> Round the phone:

Round the phone:

14:39:53 <AndyS_> Lee Feigenbaum

Lee Feigenbaum

14:40:07 <AxelPolleres> (please all who don't speak mute themselves, thnx.)

Axel Polleres: (please all who don't speak mute themselves, thnx.)

14:40:57 <AndyS_> Axel Polleres

Axel Polleres

14:41:26 <AndyS_> Lee and Axel are the group's co-chairs

Lee and Axel are the group's co-chairs

14:41:36 <kasei> Axel: is there a way to do that through the conf. system?

Axel Polleres: is there a way to do that through the conf. system? [ Scribe Assist by Greg Williams ]

14:41:49 <LeeF> kasei: you can type "zakim, mute me"

Greg Williams: you can type "zakim, mute me" [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ]

14:42:18 <AndyS_> Steve Harris

Steve Harris

14:42:34 <AxelPolleres> kasei, type "Zakim, mute me"

Axel Polleres: kasei, type "Zakim, mute me"

14:42:36 <Susie> Susie has joined #sparql

Susie Stephens: Susie has joined #sparql

14:43:14 <swh> "Luke Wilson-Mawer"

Steve Harris: "Luke Wilson-Mawer"

14:43:50 <bijan> zakim, unmute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me

14:43:50 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted

14:43:55 <AndyS_> Bijan Parsia

Bijan Parsia

14:44:01 <kasei> zakim, mute me

Greg Williams: zakim, mute me

14:44:01 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should now be muted

14:45:10 <bijan> zakim, mute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me

14:45:10 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted

14:45:13 <AxelPolleres> we'd kindly request people to also send intro mails to the mailing list, and also enter an introduction to the wiki (http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki).

Axel Polleres: we'd kindly request people to also send intro mails to the mailing list, and also enter an introduction to the wiki (http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki).

14:45:16 <kasei> zakim, unmute me

Greg Williams: zakim, unmute me

14:45:16 <Zakim> kasei should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should no longer be muted

14:45:21 <AndyS_> Greg Williams

Greg Williams

14:46:05 <kasei> zakim, mute me

Greg Williams: zakim, mute me

14:46:05 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should now be muted

14:46:12 <AndyS_> Eric Prud'hommeaux

Eric Prud'hommeaux

14:46:55 <AndyS_> W3C staff contacts: EricP and Ivan Herman

W3C staff contacts: EricP and Ivan Herman

14:47:12 <AndyS_> Orri Erling

Orri Erling

14:47:27 <AndyS_> Ivan Mikhailov

Ivan Mikhailov

14:47:37 <AxelPolleres> orri and ivan on the same phone line (for attendees list)

Axel Polleres: orri and ivan on the same phone line (for attendees list)

14:48:14 <iv_an_ru> Orri is at Utrecht and I'm in Novosibirsk, I guess that lines differ.

Ivan Mikhailov: Orri is at Utrecht and I'm in Novosibirsk, I guess that lines differ.

14:49:39 <AndyS_> Dave Newman

Dave Newman

14:50:11 <AndyS_> (Dan Schutzer not attending today)

(Dan Schutzer not attending today)

14:51:02 <AndyS_> Phil Brooks

Phil Brooks

14:52:30 <Phil> Hi, Bijan!

Phil Brooks: Hi, Bijan!

14:52:33 <Phil> Jenna Zhou

Phil Brooks: Jenna Zhou

14:53:00 <AndyS_> Alex Passant

Alex Passant

14:53:33 <LeeF> Andy Seaborne

Lee Feigenbaum: Andy Seaborne

14:53:37 <AxelPolleres> On http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=35463 I don't see yet all of the people here.

Axel Polleres: On http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=35463 I don't see yet all of the people here.

14:54:04 <bijan> +1 to AndyS speed point

Bijan Parsia: +1 to AndyS speed point

14:54:16 <swh> +1

Steve Harris: +1

14:55:55 <bijan> Oops. Manchester is likely to have a second person as well, someone who's been heavily involved with a joint UManchester/Seimans project

Bijan Parsia: Oops. Manchester is likely to have a second person as well, someone who's been heavily involved with a joint UManchester/Seimans project

14:56:10 <AndyS_> HP will be represented by two people: Andy Seaborne and Ahmed Ezzat

HP will be represented by two people: Andy Seaborne and Ahmed Ezzat

14:57:16 <AndyS_> Weekly telecon : discussion on timing

Weekly telecon : discussion on timing

14:57:43 <AndyS_> Issue: PST is 06:30 and we have people on the west coast

ISSUE: PST is 06:30 and we have people on the west coast

14:58:01 <AxelPolleres> (when typing, please mute yourselves)

Axel Polleres: (when typing, please mute yourselves)

14:58:32 <AndyS_> Also clash with RIF calls just after SPARQL

Also clash with RIF calls just after SPARQL

14:58:48 <AndyS_> LeeF: Meetings usually an hour

Lee Feigenbaum: Meetings usually an hour

14:59:17 <AndyS_> Dave: 7am is OK

Dave Newman: 7am is OK

14:59:38 <Zakim> -daveNewman

Zakim IRC Bot: -daveNewman

15:00:11 <AndyS_> LeeF: Suggestion 15:00Z

Lee Feigenbaum: Suggestion 15:00Z

15:00:34 <bijan> zakim, unmute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me

15:00:34 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted

15:00:35 <AndyS_> AxelPolleres: then limits me to one hour due to RIF

Axel Polleres: then limits me to one hour due to RIF

15:01:11 <AndyS_>  15:00Z = 10am EST = 7am PST until clocks change

15:00Z = 10am EST = 7am PST until clocks change

15:01:33 <AndyS_> Bijan: teach some of those slots but UManchester will have two people.

Bijan Parsia: teach some of those slots but UManchester will have two people.

15:01:34 <bijan> zakim, mute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me

15:01:40 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted

15:01:57 <bijan> I appreciate the chairs consideration

Bijan Parsia: I appreciate the chairs consideration

15:02:30 <AndyS_> LeeF: Days other than Tuesday is tricky for chairs/staff contacts

Lee Feigenbaum: Days other than Tuesday is tricky for chairs/staff contacts

15:02:47 <bijan> If the chairs are willing for asynch feedback from me on the days that I can't attend, I would be grateful

Bijan Parsia: If the chairs are willing for asynch feedback from me on the days that I can't attend, I would be grateful

15:02:55 <AndyS_> Phil: 10am OK but Singapore would be a problem.

Phil Brooks: 10am OK but Singapore would be a problem.

15:02:56 <LeeF> Very happy for async feedback

Lee Feigenbaum: Very happy for async feedback

15:04:04 <LeeF> agenda?

Lee Feigenbaum: agenda?

15:04:06 <AndyS_> LeeF: For now, 15:00Z telecons -- 10am EST -- 7am PST

Lee Feigenbaum: For now, 15:00Z telecons -- 10am EST -- 7am PST

15:04:39 <swh> http://www.w3.org/2009/01/sparql-charter

Steve Harris: http://www.w3.org/2009/01/sparql-charter

15:04:58 <AndyS_> Charter discussion

Charter discussion

15:05:12 <AndyS_> LeeF: 18 months running time.

Lee Feigenbaum: 18 months running time.

15:05:24 <AndyS_> ... key point

... key point

15:05:39 <AndyS_> ... RECs from last time (QL, Protocol, Results)

... RECs from last time (QL, Protocol, Results)

15:06:20 <AndyS_> ... also JSON Results format -- WG Note

... also JSON Results format -- WG Note

15:07:00 <AndyS_> ... charter for adding key features for users; things that have been impelemnted and used sufficiently widely

... charter for adding key features for users; things that have been impelemnted and used sufficiently widely

15:07:31 <AndyS_> ... all SPARQL v1 queries shouldl be the same

... all SPARQL v1 queries shouldl be the same

15:07:48 <AndyS_> ... scope suggestions:

... scope suggestions:

15:07:52 <AndyS_> ... update and delete

... update and delete

15:08:11 <AndyS_> ... aggregate functions

... aggregate functions

15:08:24 <AndyS_> ... new filters and functions

... new filters and functions

15:08:37 <AndyS_> ... interoperability (e.g. service description)

... interoperability (e.g. service description)

15:08:50 <AndyS_> ... describe inference regime

... describe inference regime

15:08:59 <AndyS_> ... make DESCRIBE more interoperable

... make DESCRIBE more interoperable

15:09:13 <AndyS_> ... (was non-normative in REC)

... (was non-normative in REC)

15:09:25 <AndyS_> ... consider an XML syntax for SPARQL

... consider an XML syntax for SPARQL

15:09:57 <swh> (project named expressions was missed I think)

Steve Harris: (project named expressions was missed I think)

15:10:00 <AndyS_> ... next week : round table for members to state what they see needed

... next week : round table for members to state what they see needed

15:10:36 <AndyS_> EricP: Do some to meet schedule then flesh out if more time

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Do some to meet schedule then flesh out if more time

15:11:00 <AndyS_> LeeF: step one is UC&R (2 minths - maybe 6 weeks) will fix the features

Lee Feigenbaum: step one is UC&amp;R (2 minths - maybe 6 weeks) will fix the features

15:11:15 <AndyS_> ... charter says prioritize

... charter says prioritize

15:12:43 <iv_an_ru> Shouldn't we make a table with row per feature and column per implementation, to enumerate SPARQL extensions do we have implemented already?

Ivan Mikhailov: Shouldn't we make a table with row per feature and column per implementation, to enumerate SPARQL extensions do we have implemented already?

15:12:57 <iv_an_ru> in a wiki

Ivan Mikhailov: in a wiki

15:12:59 <AndyS_> AxelPolleres: after 6 weeks we can close the feature set to stay on schedule

Axel Polleres: after 6 weeks we can close the feature set to stay on schedule

15:13:27 <AndyS_> Orri: Implemented extensions - will submit the prioritized extensions

Orri Erling: Implemented extensions - will submit the prioritized extensions

15:13:50 <AndyS_> LeeF: Want to gather what's out there

Lee Feigenbaum: Want to gather what's out there

15:14:02 <AndyS_> ... inc popularity

... inc popularity

15:14:13 <AndyS_> ... then juggle.

... then juggle.

15:14:32 <AndyS_> ... Other deliverables: REC updates

... Other deliverables: REC updates

15:14:43 <AndyS_> ... already one month late :-)

... already one month late :-)

15:14:48 <AndyS_> (Only??!!)

(Only??!!)

15:15:02 <ywang4> ywang4 has joined #sparql

Yimin Wang: ywang4 has joined #sparql

15:15:27 <AndyS_> LeeF: Travel may be an issue (economic issues)

Lee Feigenbaum: Travel may be an issue (economic issues)

15:15:33 <AndyS_> ... likely less F2F

... likely less F2F

15:15:37 <AndyS_> q+

q+

15:15:51 <swh> q+

Steve Harris: q+

15:15:54 <AndyS_> ... first F2F around end of UC&R

... first F2F around end of UC&amp;R

15:16:26 <LeeF> ack AndyS_

Lee Feigenbaum: ack AndyS_

15:16:37 <bijan> +1 to AndyS

Bijan Parsia: +1 to AndyS

15:16:53 <bijan> I've done a bunch of remote F2F participation

Bijan Parsia: I've done a bunch of remote F2F participation

15:17:12 <LeeF> ack swh

Lee Feigenbaum: ack swh

15:17:15 <bijan> I'd even go down to bristol or host UK folks so we have some "nodes" of f2f particpating at weird hours

Bijan Parsia: I'd even go down to bristol or host UK folks so we have some "nodes" of f2f particpating at weird hours

15:17:16 <AndyS_> AndyS_: virtual F2F : will set aside time to attend properly even if remote

Andy Seaborne: virtual F2F : will set aside time to attend properly even if remote

15:17:33 <bijan> Manchester has a nice room for telepresence

Bijan Parsia: Manchester has a nice room for telepresence

15:17:40 <bijan> The "Access Grid"

Bijan Parsia: The "Access Grid"

15:17:53 <swh> +1

Steve Harris: +1

15:18:57 <swh> may 5,6,7 is ok for me

Steve Harris: may 5,6,7 is ok for me

15:19:15 <AndyS_> LeeF: timing: 1st week May (5th May ish)

Lee Feigenbaum: timing: 1st week May (5th May ish)

15:19:31 <AndyS_> ... Location: Boston

... Location: Boston

15:19:42 <ywang4> Hi, i just got here. May 4-6 are best for me

Yimin Wang: Hi, i just got here. May 4-6 are best for me

15:19:45 <AndyS_> ... maybe other links (e.g.UK)

... maybe other links (e.g.UK)

15:19:57 <ywang4> it's Yimin from Lilly

Yimin Wang: it's Yimin from Lilly

15:20:02 <bijan> Not great for me

Bijan Parsia: Not great for me

15:20:19 <iv_an_ru> May 1-10 is not very convenient for me but I'm probably missing F2f anyway.

Ivan Mikhailov: May 1-10 is not very convenient for me but I'm probably missing F2f anyway.

15:20:25 <AndyS_> Looks OK at the moment

Looks OK at the moment

15:20:36 <bijan> Mon-tues much worse than wed-fri

Bijan Parsia: Mon-tues much worse than wed-fri

15:20:52 <AndyS_> (how many Lilly people are there in the WG?)

(how many Lilly people are there in the WG?)

15:21:22 <ywang4> I think Susie and me here

Yimin Wang: I think Susie and me here

15:21:29 <Phil> Plus Phil and Jenna

Phil Brooks: Plus Phil and Jenna

15:21:51 <AndyS_> LeeF: will try for 5&6 May

Lee Feigenbaum: will try for 5&amp;6 May

15:21:53 <Phil> Jenna, though, may not participate quite as often

Phil Brooks: Jenna, though, may not participate quite as often

15:21:58 <AndyS_> ... will take to email

... will take to email

15:22:13 <AndyS_> Axel: WBS

Axel Polleres: WBS

15:23:18 <ywang4> Hi Phil, I didn't notice you are here as well

Yimin Wang: Hi Phil, I didn't notice you are here as well

15:23:49 <AndyS_> LeeF: Comments and questions?

Lee Feigenbaum: Comments and questions?

15:24:14 <AndyS_> AxelPolleres: Self-intros to the list

Axel Polleres: Self-intros to the list

15:24:55 <AxelPolleres> Please all send self-introductions until next week.

Axel Polleres: Please all send self-introductions until next week.

15:25:07 <AndyS_> LeeF: Chairs will seek out editors for documents over time

Lee Feigenbaum: Chairs will seek out editors for documents over time

15:25:39 <AndyS_> End of meeting

End of meeting

15:25:46 <Zakim> -bijan

Zakim IRC Bot: -bijan

15:26:04 <AndyS_> EricP - can you remind of the minutes magic?

EricP - can you remind of the minutes magic?

15:26:39 <AxelPolleres> zakim, list attendees

Axel Polleres: zakim, list attendees

15:26:39 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS_, +1.518.276.aaaa, EricP, OpenLink, kasei, +1.415.371.aacc, Phil_Brooks, iv_an_ru,

Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS_, +1.518.276.aaaa, EricP, OpenLink, kasei, +1.415.371.aacc, Phil_Brooks, iv_an_ru,

15:26:42 <Zakim> ... daveNewman, alepas

Zakim IRC Bot: ... daveNewman, alepas

15:26:58 <LeeF> AndyS, I will take care of the minutes and get them online

Lee Feigenbaum: AndyS, I will take care of the minutes and get them online

15:27:24 <LeeF> RRSAgent, draft minutes please

Lee Feigenbaum: RRSAgent, draft minutes please

15:27:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-minutes.html LeeF

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-minutes.html LeeF

15:27:31 <LeeF> RRSAgent, make logs world

Lee Feigenbaum: RRSAgent, make logs world

15:27:32 <bijan> bijan has left #sparql

Bijan Parsia: bijan has left #sparql

15:27:33 <AndyS_> LeeF - thx.

LeeF - thx.

15:28:58 <AxelPolleres> who is ywang4? thanks!

Axel Polleres: who is ywang4? thanks!

15:29:07 <ywang4> Yimin Wang

Yimin Wang: Yimin Wang

15:29:10 <ericP> luke.wilson-mawer@garlik.com

Eric Prud'hommeaux: luke.wilson-mawer@garlik.com

15:29:11 <ywang4> from Lilly Singapore

Yimin Wang: from Lilly Singapore

15:29:11 <LeeF> ywang4 is Yimin Wang from Eli Lilly

Lee Feigenbaum: ywang4 is Yimin Wang from Eli Lilly

15:29:49 <ericP>  From: Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net>

Eric Prud'hommeaux: From: Lee Feigenbaum &lt;lee@thefigtrees.net&gt;

15:29:49 <ericP>  Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:54:36 -0500

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:54:36 -0500

15:29:49 <ericP>  To: 'SPARQL Working Group' <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>

Eric Prud'hommeaux: To: 'SPARQL Working Group' &lt;public-rdf-dawg@w3.org&gt;

15:29:49 <ericP>  Subject: First SPARQL Working Group Meeting - Tues. Feb 24th

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Subject: First SPARQL Working Group Meeting - Tues. Feb 24th

15:29:49 <ericP>  Message-ID: <499C4B5C.6010202@thefigtrees.net>

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Message-ID: &lt;499C4B5C.6010202@thefigtrees.net&gt;

15:29:51 <ericP>  Resent-From: public-rdf-dawg@w3.org

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Resent-From: public-rdf-dawg@w3.org

15:29:53 <ericP>  Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:55:29 +0000

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:55:29 +0000

15:30:06 <LeeF> Yimin, before you joined, we agreed to have our weekly calls at 15:00Z on Tuesdays - I know that that is quite late for you - do you think you still might be able to participate? (trying to balance time zones)

Lee Feigenbaum: Yimin, before you joined, we agreed to have our weekly calls at 15:00Z on Tuesdays - I know that that is quite late for you - do you think you still might be able to participate? (trying to balance time zones)

15:30:25 <ywang4> Should be no problem

Yimin Wang: Should be no problem

15:30:52 <ericP> j_phil_brooks@lilly.com

Eric Prud'hommeaux: j_phil_brooks@lilly.com

15:31:36 <LeeF> thanks, Yimin :)

Lee Feigenbaum: thanks, Yimin :)

15:32:12 <ericP> ywang4, could you post me your email address?

Eric Prud'hommeaux: ywang4, could you post me your email address?

15:32:34 <ywang4> wangyimin@lilly.com

Yimin Wang: wangyimin@lilly.com

15:33:31 <Zakim> -OpenLink

Zakim IRC Bot: -OpenLink

15:33:42 <ywang4> so it looks like the f2f meeting will be 5 and 6 May at Boston?

Yimin Wang: so it looks like the f2f meeting will be 5 and 6 May at Boston?

15:34:37 <iv_an_ru> I would be nice to know the date/place in advance due to visa headache.

Ivan Mikhailov: I would be nice to know the date/place in advance due to visa headache.

15:34:40 <LeeF> That's my best guess at the moment, Yimin, but we'll decide in the next week or two

Lee Feigenbaum: That's my best guess at the moment, Yimin, but we'll decide in the next week or two

15:34:53 <Zakim> -Phil_Brooks

Zakim IRC Bot: -Phil_Brooks

15:34:54 <Zakim> -Lee_Feigenbaum

Zakim IRC Bot: -Lee_Feigenbaum

15:34:57 <Zakim> -iv_an_ru

Zakim IRC Bot: -iv_an_ru

15:34:59 <Zakim> -kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei

15:35:03 <Zakim> -alepas

Zakim IRC Bot: -alepas

15:35:09 <Zakim> -Garlik

Zakim IRC Bot: -Garlik

15:35:14 <Zakim> -EricP

Zakim IRC Bot: -EricP

15:35:19 <Zakim> -AndyS_

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS_

15:35:23 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres

Zakim IRC Bot: -AxelPolleres

15:35:23 <Zakim> Team_(sparql)14:27Z has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: Team_(sparql)14:27Z has ended

15:35:24 <Zakim> Attendees were AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS_, +1.518.276.aaaa, EricP, OpenLink, kasei, +1.415.371.aacc, Phil_Brooks, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, alepas

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were AxelPolleres, Garlik, bijan, Lee_Feigenbaum, AndyS_, +1.518.276.aaaa, EricP, OpenLink, kasei, +1.415.371.aacc, Phil_Brooks, iv_an_ru, daveNewman, alepas

15:35:47 <AxelPolleres> AxelPolleres has left #sparql

Axel Polleres: AxelPolleres has left #sparql

15:37:52 <ywang4> I see, I will proceed with these dates

Yimin Wang: I see, I will proceed with these dates

15:38:45 <LeeF> iv_an_ru, if we settle it for sure in one or two weeks, does that give you enough time?

Lee Feigenbaum: iv_an_ru, if we settle it for sure in one or two weeks, does that give you enough time?

15:40:02 <ywang4> ywang4 has left #sparql

Yimin Wang: ywang4 has left #sparql

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Steve Harris: swh_ has joined #sparql

15:42:52 <LeeF> ericP, can you setup our calls going forward for 10:00AM ET with code 77277?

Lee Feigenbaum: ericP, can you setup our calls going forward for 10:00AM ET with code 77277?

16:03:35 <ericP> yep

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Eric Prud'hommeaux: yep

16:14:12 <LeeF> grazie

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Lee Feigenbaum: grazie

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