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12:46:10 <steph> rrsagent, make log public
12:46:16 <steph> zakim, this will be mw4d
12:46:16 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, steph
12:46:23 <steph> zakim, this will be m4w
12:46:23 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, steph
12:46:29 <steph> zakim, this will be mw4d
12:46:29 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, steph
12:48:44 <steph> zakim, room for 10 in 14mn, code 6493
12:48:44 <Zakim> I don't understand 'room for 10 in 14mn, code 6493', steph
12:50:57 <steph> MEETING:MW4D bi-monthly call
12:51:05 <steph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009Dec/0001.html
12:53:47 <steph> PResent: stephane
12:53:51 <steph> Chair:stephane
12:53:56 <steph> Scribe: stephane
12:54:05 <steph> zakim, room for 10 ?
12:54:06 <Zakim> ok, steph; conference Team_(mw4d)12:54Z scheduled with code 26632 (CONF2) for 60 minutes until 1354Z
12:54:41 <Zakim> Team_(mw4d)12:54Z has now started
12:54:48 <Zakim> +steph
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12:55:56 <steph> hi Betty
12:56:14 <betty_purwandari> Hi Stephane. Nice to join the meeting again.
12:56:24 <steph> there is a change in the teleconference code. today is 26632
12:56:29 <steph> great !
12:56:39 <betty_purwandari> Many thanks
12:56:47 <steph> you are welcome
13:01:00 <Zakim> + +0238059aaaa
13:01:12 <steph> zakim, aaaa is Betty
13:01:12 <Zakim> +Betty; got it
13:02:32 <Zakim> +??P2
13:02:49 <steph> zakim, ??P2 is Ken
13:02:49 <Zakim> +Ken; got it
13:06:28 <Zakim> + +41.22.730.aabb
13:06:39 <steph> zakim, aabb is Raphael
13:06:39 <Zakim> +Raphael; got it
13:06:46 <steph> Present+betty
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13:06:49 <steph> Present+raphael
13:06:53 <steph> Present+ken
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13:07:43 <kiwanja> bonjour!
13:07:45 <steph> hi Ken
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13:08:41 <steph> Topic: Approval of last meeting minutes
13:08:42 <steph> http://www.w3.org/2009/11/09-mw4d-minutes.html
13:09:04 <steph> approved
13:09:38 <steph> Topic: MW4D group extension and schedule
13:10:04 <steph> steph: the group has been extended till end of february
13:10:54 <kiwanja> is there any funding issue/question connected with extending or keeping the Group running?
13:15:32 <Raphael> should we try webinars? how do these work? do you have experience in this?
13:16:09 <Raphael> instead of costly conferences (including carbon...)
13:18:13 <Raphael> I agree w/ Ken
13:19:19 <Raphael> steph: the WebFoundation can implement some of the recommendations of the roadmap
13:20:36 <steph> raphael: other option that F2F meeting
13:20:46 <steph> like online conference
13:20:51 <steph> using videoconference
13:21:13 <steph> could generate dynamics without travel
13:21:21 <steph> things like webinars
13:21:55 <kiwanja> liked some of the suggestions and outputs from Maputo - tools workshops, days based on themes with practitioners, etc.
13:23:15 <betty_purwandari> q+
13:24:09 <steph> e-agriculture.org
13:24:15 <Raphael> steph: option for asynchronous workshops
13:24:32 <betty_purwandari> Do W3C or Web Foundation have plans to give mobile web training to developers in developing countries?
13:24:32 <kiwanja> would be worth speaking with the people at ALNAP, who do a lot of webinars with weather stations around the world (and it works quite well). they did a good one on FrontlineSMS recently
13:24:56 <steph> betty: training on technology
13:25:10 <kiwanja> steph - we should look at http://mobility.kiwanja.net again with ref to Betty's question
13:25:29 <kiwanja> mobile development guides, toolkits, etc.
13:25:53 <betty_purwandari> @Ken: Thanks
13:27:57 <kiwanja> also, Erik Hersman (White African, Ushahidi) is setting up a tech hub in nairobi - we should look at tapping into these, too
13:31:23 <steph> strathmore university is dowtown nairobi
13:32:19 <Raphael> Makerere / Kampala
13:32:50 <Raphael> also has mobile developers
13:33:17 <Raphael> EPROM started there I think
13:33:25 <Raphael> w/MIT
13:33:27 <kiwanja> http://www.media-anthropology.net
13:34:47 <kiwanja> appfrica labs
13:34:54 <steph> appafrica
13:35:02 <kiwanja> appfrica
13:35:12 <kiwanja> jon gos
13:35:18 <steph> gosier !
13:35:29 <kiwanja> LOL
13:35:30 <steph> http://appfrica.net/blog/fr
13:35:42 <kiwanja> bloody french people!  =D
13:35:57 <betty_purwandari> The information is so helpful.
13:36:38 <steph> http://www.webfoundation.org/
13:37:08 <kiwanja> just don't let stephane recommend any hotels you should stay in...
13:39:17 <Raphael> steph, how to you suggest we use the wiki page http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/charter2  ?
13:39:28 <Raphael> ok
13:41:14 <steph> Topic: discussion on the future of MW4D
13:41:22 <steph> http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/charter2
13:43:39 <steph> ken: do something with the reports
13:44:34 <steph> ken: more targeted workshop
13:44:42 <steph> agriculture, human rights
13:44:51 <steph> or on technologies
13:45:29 <steph> more specific
13:50:08 <Raphael> q+
13:50:29 <steph> ack betty
13:50:33 <steph> ack rapahel
13:52:14 <steph> ack raphael
13:53:58 <steph> raphael: need of tools assessment
13:55:39 <steph> ken: tools are different
13:56:35 <betty_purwandari> Is there any portals of blogs for mobile web developers sharing their solution?
13:56:57 <steph> steph: adding that in charter
13:58:05 <Raphael> we need to do smthg like this http://www.mindmeister.com/23721332/m4d-mapping-by-domain linking to clear definitions of what each tool does, what the conditions of uses are etc.
13:58:41 <kiwanja> http://www.kiwanja.net/blog/2009/11/our-social-mobile-line-in-the-sand/
14:00:16 <kiwanja> http://www.kiwanja.net/blog/2009/11/inappropriate-appropriate-technology/
14:02:12 <steph> TOpic: NExt Meeting
14:02:30 <Raphael> date?
14:02:30 <betty_purwandari> ok. thanks.
14:02:35 <betty_purwandari> 21 dec
14:02:37 <Zakim> -steph
14:02:37 <steph> Monday 21 dec
14:02:37 <Zakim> -Raphael
14:02:38 <Raphael> thanks
14:02:38 <Zakim> -Ken
14:02:40 <Zakim> -Betty
14:02:40 <Zakim> Team_(mw4d)12:54Z has ended
14:02:41 <Zakim> Attendees were steph, +0238059aaaa, Betty, Ken, +41.22.730.aabb, Raphael
14:02:42 <Raphael> bye
14:02:43 <steph> zakim, make minutes
14:02:43 <Zakim> I don't understand 'make minutes', steph
14:02:50 <kiwanja> thanks all!  \o/
14:02:51 <steph> rrsagent, make minutes
14:02:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/12/07-mw4d-minutes.html steph
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