IRC log of soap-jms on 2009-12-01

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RRSAgent, make logs public

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Zakim, this will be SJMS

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ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute

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Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 01 December 2009

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zakim, who's here?

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On the phone I see alewis, padams2, +1.708.246.aacc

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On IRC I see peaston, padams2, Zakim, RRSAgent, mphillip, alewis, trackbot

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zakim, aadd is mphillip

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+mphillip; got it

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+Peter_Easton

17:03:30 [mphillip]

mphillip has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0000.html

17:03:51 [padams]

zakim, who's here?

17:03:51 [Zakim]

On the phone I see alewis, padams2, derek, mphillip, Peter_Easton

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On IRC I see Derek, peaston, padams, Zakim, RRSAgent, mphillip, alewis, trackbot

17:04:06 [mphillip]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0000.html

17:04:33 [mphillip]

TOPIC: Appointment of the scribe

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Scribe: mphillip

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Chair: Peter

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TOPIC: Approval of prior meeting minutes

17:05:03 [mphillip]

http://www.w3.org/2009/11/17-soap-jms-minutes.html

17:05:29 [mphillip]

No objections - minutes approved

17:05:47 [mphillip]

TOPIC: Review the agenda

17:05:59 [mphillip]

Agenda approved with no amendments

17:06:08 [mphillip]

TOPIC: Review action items

17:06:27 [peaston]

http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/open

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No progress on action 32

17:07:20 [mphillip]

Derek has written up action 68

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close action-68

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ACTION-68 Draft words on what you can do with non-normative MEPs like RIO for publication in an FAQ closed

17:07:44 [mphillip]

No progress on actions 108 and 112

17:08:52 [mphillip]

Phil has completed actions 121, and 121

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close action-121

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ACTION-121 Make the changes recorded under the proposed resolution for Issue 15 closed

17:09:00 [mphillip]

close action-122

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ACTION-122 Make the changes proposed by Eric under issue 16 closed

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Phil has completed actions 124

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close action-124

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ACTION-124 Reply to Eric's email with a counter-proposal for sections 2.6.1 and 2.6.2 closed

17:10:05 [mphillip]

No progress on 123 and 125

17:10:16 [mphillip]

TOPIC: URI specification

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No progress

17:10:30 [mphillip]

TOPIC: Raised Issues

17:10:39 [mphillip]

No Raised Issues

17:11:02 [mphillip]

TOPIC:Accepting proposals to close open issues

17:11:04 [peaston]

7) Accepting proposals to close open issues http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/open

17:11:35 [padams]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0001.html

17:13:14 [padams]

http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html.diff?r1=1.67&r2=1.68&f=h

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All reviewed and accepted the changes

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RESOLUTION: Issue 15 is ready to be closed

17:20:33 [mphillip]

action peter to close out the issues we resolve in this call

17:20:33 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-126 - Close out the issues we resolve in this call [on Peter Easton - due 2009-12-08].

17:20:50 [mphillip]

Issue 16 :

17:20:52 [padams]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0002.html

17:21:26 [padams]

http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html.diff?r1=1.68&r2=1.69&f=h

17:22:25 [padams]

http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html?rev=1.69&content-type=text/html&f=h

17:23:32 [mphillip]

see section 3.4.5

17:25:28 [mphillip]

All reviewed and accepted the changes for issue 16

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RESOLUTION: Issue 16 is ready to be closed

17:27:31 [mphillip]

Issues 17 and 18 still pending

17:30:27 [mphillip]

All accept the proposed resolution for Issue 19

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action Phil to apply the resolution for Issue 19

17:30:40 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-127 - Apply the resolution for Issue 19 [on Phil Adams - due 2009-12-08].

17:31:30 [mphillip]

Issue 20 : http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/20

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All accept the proposed resolution for Issue 20

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action Phil to apply the resolution for Issue 20

17:32:42 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-128 - Apply the resolution for Issue 20 [on Phil Adams - due 2009-12-08].

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TOPIC: Accepting applied resolutions:

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Issue: 4

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Created ISSUE-21 - 4 ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/21/edit .

17:33:35 [mphillip]

Resolution for Issue 4 : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Nov/0009.html

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HTML Diff: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html.diff?r1=1.66&r2=1.67&f=h

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All accept the proposed resolution for Issue 4

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RESOLUTION: Issue 4 is ready to be closed

17:39:25 [peaston]

Issue 14: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/14

17:39:42 [padams]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Oct/0006.html

17:40:43 [padams]

http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html?rev=1.65&content-type=text/html&f=h

17:45:50 [mphillip]

All accept the proposed resolution for Issue 14

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RESOLUTION: Issue 14 is ready to be closed

17:46:33 [mphillip]

TOPIC: FAQ

17:46:49 [mphillip]

Derek has proposed new material based on action 68

17:47:11 [mphillip]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0006.html

17:47:13 [Derek]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0006.html

17:47:56 [mphillip]

action peter to update the FAQ with the changes proposed by action 68

17:47:56 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-129 - Update the FAQ with the changes proposed by action 68 [on Peter Easton - due 2009-12-08].

17:48:15 [mphillip]

TOPIC: Testing

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TOPIC: Implementations

17:49:28 [mphillip]

TOPIC: AOB?

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None

17:49:36 [mphillip]

TOPIC: Testing

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Discussion: How do we define/describe the WSDL test cases?

17:51:07 [mphillip]

Phil: We need to decide logistically how we document the WSDL tests in conjunction with the non-WSDL tests

17:51:53 [mphillip]

Phil: Making it clear that they are separate tests - only required if an implementation is claiming conformance to the optional WSDL portion of the spec.

17:54:08 [mphillip]

Phil: Existing test cases do not include an executable test suite just documentation - suggest similar approach to WSDL tests

17:54:41 [mphillip]

Amy: Agreed - we could just provide a set of WSDL, which would give us substantial WSDL base coverage

17:56:01 [mphillip]

Phil: We could either 1) Add WSDL to existing base tests as an optional part of the test, or 2) Mirror the existing tests with a new set of WSDL specific tests

17:56:52 [mphillip]

Amy: Agreed - optional 1) would be quick, but option 2) would make the optional parts clearer, and it would be easier to omit those tests which are not relevant to WSDL. I favour option 2

17:57:01 [mphillip]

Phil: Yes, option 2 would be preference

17:57:37 [mphillip]

Phil: Volunteers to prototype a WSDL test case

17:57:48 [mphillip]

action: Phil to prototype a WSDL test case

17:57:48 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-130 - Prototype a WSDL test case [on Phil Adams - due 2009-12-08].

17:58:14 [mphillip]

Chair next week is Phil

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-alewis

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-derek

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-padams2

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-mphillip

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Regrets: Eric

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-Peter_Easton

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/12/01-soap-jms-minutes.html mphillip

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Attendees were +1.919.663.aaaa, alewis, +1.512.918.aabb, +1.708.246.aacc, padams2, +0196287aadd, mphillip, derek, Peter_Easton

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/12/01-soap-jms-minutes.html mphillip

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