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16:59:34 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be SJMS
16:59:34 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
16:59:35 <trackbot> Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
16:59:35 <trackbot> Date: 01 December 2009
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17:02:38 <padams2> zakim, who's here?
17:02:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see alewis, padams2, +1.708.246.aacc
17:02:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see peaston, padams2, Zakim, RRSAgent, mphillip, alewis, trackbot
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17:02:57 <mphillip> zakim, aadd is mphillip
17:02:57 <Zakim> +mphillip; got it
17:03:29 <Zakim> +Peter_Easton
17:03:30 <mphillip> mphillip has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0000.html
17:03:51 <padams> zakim, who's here?
17:03:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see alewis, padams2, derek, mphillip, Peter_Easton
17:03:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see Derek, peaston, padams, Zakim, RRSAgent, mphillip, alewis, trackbot
17:04:06 <mphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0000.html
17:04:33 <mphillip> TOPIC: Appointment of the scribe 
17:04:39 <mphillip> Scribe: mphillip
17:04:44 <mphillip> Chair: Peter
17:04:53 <mphillip> TOPIC: Approval of prior meeting minutes 
17:05:03 <mphillip> http://www.w3.org/2009/11/17-soap-jms-minutes.html 
17:05:29 <mphillip> No objections - minutes approved
17:05:47 <mphillip> TOPIC: Review the agenda 
17:05:59 <mphillip> Agenda approved with no amendments
17:06:08 <mphillip> TOPIC: Review action items 
17:06:27 <peaston>  http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/open
17:07:02 <mphillip> No progress on action 32
17:07:20 <mphillip> Derek has written up action 68
17:07:24 <mphillip> close action-68
17:07:24 <trackbot> ACTION-68 Draft words on what you can do with non-normative MEPs like RIO for publication in an FAQ closed
17:07:44 <mphillip> No progress on actions 108 and 112
17:08:52 <mphillip> Phil has completed actions 121, and 121 
17:08:58 <mphillip> close action-121
17:08:58 <trackbot> ACTION-121 Make the changes recorded under the proposed resolution for Issue 15 closed
17:09:00 <mphillip> close action-122
17:09:00 <trackbot> ACTION-122 Make the changes proposed by Eric under issue 16 closed
17:09:46 <mphillip> Phil has completed actions 124
17:09:49 <mphillip> close action-124
17:09:49 <trackbot> ACTION-124 Reply to Eric's email with a counter-proposal for sections 2.6.1 and 2.6.2 closed
17:10:05 <mphillip> No progress on 123 and 125
17:10:16 <mphillip> TOPIC:  URI specification
17:10:23 <mphillip> No progress
17:10:30 <mphillip> TOPIC: Raised Issues
17:10:39 <mphillip> No Raised Issues
17:11:02 <mphillip> TOPIC:Accepting proposals to close open issues 
17:11:04 <peaston> 7) Accepting proposals to close open issues http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/open
17:11:35 <padams> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0001.html
17:13:14 <padams> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html.diff?r1=1.67&r2=1.68&f=h 
17:18:54 <mphillip> All reviewed and accepted the changes
17:19:21 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: Issue 15 is ready to be closed
17:20:33 <mphillip> action peter to close out the issues we resolve in this call
17:20:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-126 - Close out the issues we resolve in this call [on Peter Easton - due 2009-12-08].
17:20:50 <mphillip> Issue 16 : 
17:20:52 <padams> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0002.html
17:21:26 <padams> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html.diff?r1=1.68&r2=1.69&f=h 
17:22:25 <padams> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html?rev=1.69&content-type=text/html&f=h
17:23:32 <mphillip> see section 3.4.5
17:25:28 <mphillip> All reviewed and accepted the changes for issue 16 
17:25:33 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: Issue 16 is ready to be closed
17:27:31 <mphillip> Issues 17 and 18 still pending
17:30:27 <mphillip> All accept the proposed resolution for Issue 19 
17:30:40 <mphillip> action Phil to apply the resolution for Issue 19
17:30:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-127 - Apply the resolution for Issue 19 [on Phil Adams - due 2009-12-08].
17:31:30 <mphillip> Issue 20 : http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/20
17:32:39 <mphillip> All accept the proposed resolution for Issue 20
17:32:42 <mphillip> action Phil to apply the resolution for Issue 20
17:32:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-128 - Apply the resolution for Issue 20 [on Phil Adams - due 2009-12-08].
17:33:02 <mphillip> TOPIC: Accepting applied resolutions: 
17:33:18 <mphillip> Issue: 4 
17:33:18 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-21 - 4  ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/21/edit .
17:33:35 <mphillip> Resolution for Issue 4 : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Nov/0009.html  
17:36:54 <mphillip> HTML Diff: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html.diff?r1=1.66&r2=1.67&f=h
17:38:41 <mphillip> All accept the proposed resolution for Issue 4
17:38:54 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: Issue 4 is ready to be closed
17:39:25 <peaston> Issue 14: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/14
17:39:42 <padams> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Oct/0006.html
17:40:43 <padams> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html?rev=1.65&content-type=text/html&f=h
17:45:50 <mphillip> All accept the proposed resolution for Issue 14
17:45:54 <mphillip> RESOLUTION: Issue 14 is ready to be closed
17:46:33 <mphillip> TOPIC: FAQ
17:46:49 <mphillip> Derek has proposed new material based on action 68
17:47:11 <mphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0006.html
17:47:13 <Derek> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Dec/0006.html
17:47:56 <mphillip> action peter to update the FAQ with the changes proposed by action 68
17:47:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-129 - Update the FAQ with the changes proposed by action 68 [on Peter Easton - due 2009-12-08].
17:48:15 <mphillip> TOPIC: Testing 
17:48:41 <mphillip> TOPIC: Implementations 
17:49:28 <mphillip> TOPIC: AOB?
17:49:30 <mphillip> None
17:49:36 <mphillip> TOPIC: Testing 
17:49:52 <mphillip> Discussion: How do we define/describe the WSDL test cases? 
17:51:07 <mphillip> Phil: We need to decide logistically how we document the WSDL tests in  conjunction with the non-WSDL tests
17:51:53 <mphillip> Phil: Making it clear that they are separate tests - only required if an implementation is claiming conformance to the optional WSDL portion of the spec.
17:54:08 <mphillip> Phil: Existing test cases do not include an executable test suite just documentation - suggest similar approach to WSDL tests
17:54:41 <mphillip> Amy: Agreed - we could just provide a set of WSDL, which would give us substantial WSDL base coverage
17:56:01 <mphillip> Phil: We could either 1) Add WSDL to existing base tests as an optional part of the test, or 2) Mirror the existing tests with a new set of WSDL specific tests
17:56:52 <mphillip> Amy: Agreed - optional 1) would be quick, but option 2) would make the optional parts clearer, and it would be easier to omit those tests which are not relevant to WSDL.  I favour option 2
17:57:01 <mphillip> Phil: Yes, option 2 would be preference
17:57:37 <mphillip> Phil: Volunteers to prototype a WSDL test case 
17:57:48 <mphillip> action: Phil to prototype a WSDL test case
17:57:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-130 - Prototype a WSDL test case [on Phil Adams - due 2009-12-08].
17:58:14 <mphillip> Chair next week is Phil
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17:58:42 <Zakim> -mphillip
17:58:43 <mphillip> Regrets: Eric
17:58:46 <Zakim> -Peter_Easton
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