IRC log of swxg on 2009-11-25

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15:43:17 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/11/25-swxg-irc
15:43:19 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 7994
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ok, trackbot; I see INC_SWXG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
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Meeting: Social Web Incubator Group Teleconference
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Date: 25 November 2009
15:44:11 [melvster]
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15:46:17 [hhalpin]
Zakim, agenda+ "Convene SWXG WG meeting of 2009-11-25T16:00-17:00GMT"
15:46:17 [Zakim]
agendum 1 added
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Zakim, agenda+ User Stories
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agendum 2 added
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Zakim, agenda+ For Final Report
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agendum 3 added
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Zakim, agenda+ Invited Guest Invitations
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agendum 4 added
15:47:18 [hhalpin]
Zakim, agenda+ Eran Hammer-Lahav of Yahoo, OAuth, WebFinger, and much more
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agendum 5 added
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INC_SWXG()11:00AM has now started
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+??P8
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-??P8
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INC_SWXG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were
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INC_SWXG()11:00AM has now started
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+??P9
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+hhalpin
15:53:53 [hhalpin]
Zakim, who's on the phone?
15:53:53 [Zakim]
On the phone I see ??P9, hhalpin
15:54:07 [AlexPassant]
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15:54:32 [Zakim]
+??P12
15:54:34 [hhalpin]
Zakim, ??P9 is yoshiaki
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+yoshiaki; got it
15:54:39 [AlexPassant]
Zakim, ??P12 is me
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+AlexPassant; got it
15:56:36 [Zakim]
+??P13
15:56:56 [tpa]
Zakim, ??P13 is me
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+tpa; got it
15:57:06 [tpa]
Zakim, mute me
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tpa should now be muted
15:58:27 [mischat_]
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15:58:45 [Zakim]
+ +1.785.583.aaaa
15:58:59 [tinkster]
zakim, aaaa is me
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+tinkster; got it
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+??P15
15:59:49 [mischat]
Zakim: ??P15 is me
16:00:01 [mischat]
zakim, mute me
16:00:01 [Zakim]
sorry, mischat, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
16:00:13 [mischat]
zakim, ??P15 is me
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+mischat; got it
16:00:19 [mischat]
zakim, mute me
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mischat should now be muted
16:00:26 [Adam]
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chair: hhalpin
16:00:48 [petef]
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scribe?
16:00:51 [tinkster]
I can.
16:00:58 [hhalpin]
scribe: tinkster
16:01:00 [Zakim]
+ +1.314.683.aabb
16:01:03 [hhalpin]
Zakim, who's present?
16:01:03 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, hhalpin.
16:01:07 [hhalpin]
Zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see yoshiaki, hhalpin, AlexPassant, tpa (muted), tinkster, mischat (muted), +1.314.683.aabb
16:01:09 [Zakim]
On IRC I see petef, Adam, mischat, AlexPassant, yoshiaki, melvster, Zakim, RRSAgent, caribou, tpa, yuk, danbri, hhalpin, MacTed, tlr, FabGandon, karl, tinkster, trackbot
16:01:15 [caribou]
zakim, call carine-sip
16:01:15 [Zakim]
ok, caribou; the call is being made
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+Carine
16:01:21 [mischat]
there is an echo on your end harry
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+ +0797094aacc
16:01:33 [mischat]
zakim, who is making noise ?
16:01:43 [Zakim]
mischat, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: yoshiaki (22%), hhalpin (72%), +0797094aacc (4%)
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+OpenLink_Software
16:01:49 [mischat]
yes hhalpin
16:01:56 [hhalpin]
zakim, who is making noise?
16:02:01 [MacTed]
Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily MacTed
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+MacTed; got it
16:02:04 [MacTed]
Zakim, mute me
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MacTed should now be muted
16:02:07 [Zakim]
hhalpin, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: yoshiaki (31%), hhalpin (39%), OpenLink_Software (4%)
16:02:12 [petef]
zakim, aacc is me
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+petef; got it
16:02:19 [mischat]
zakim, mute yoshiaki
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yoshiaki should now be muted
16:02:31 [mischat]
or was that rude of me
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:)
16:02:46 [Adam]
zakim, aabb is me
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+Adam; got it
16:02:50 [yoshiaki]
I'm sorry for noizing
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hi
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16:03:13 [mischat]
no it is fine now hhalpin
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PROPOSED: to approve SWXG WG Weekly -- 18th November 2009 as a true record
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+ +1.408.354.aadd
16:03:20 [tinkster]
TOPIC: Convene SWXG WG Meeting
16:03:26 [hhalpin]
http://www.w3.org/2009/11/18-swxg-minutes.html
16:03:49 [yoshiaki]
i see
16:03:54 [tinkster]
hhalpin: Minutes need cleaning up, but everyone OK with them apart from that?
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RESOLVED: approved SWXG WG Weekly -- 18th November 2009 as a true record
16:04:08 [mischat]
yoshiaki: http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html
16:04:09 [hhalpin]
PROPOSED: to meet again Wed. Decemeber 2nd?
16:04:14 [claudio]
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16:04:15 [tinkster]
... Meet again next week?
16:04:22 [petef]
q
16:04:29 [petef]
+q
16:04:34 [tinkster]
... No speaker planned for next week. What should we do?
16:04:41 [hhalpin]
Chris Messina next week.
16:04:42 [Adam]
very nice
16:04:56 [mischat]
http://activitystrea.ms/
16:04:58 [tinkster]
petef: Chris Messina has been confirmed for next week - ActivityStrea.ms
16:04:58 [hhalpin]
Zakim, next agendum
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agendum 1. ""Convene SWXG WG meeting of 2009-11-25T16:00-17:00GMT"" taken up [from hhalpin]
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+??P29
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Zakim, next agendum
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I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, hhalpin
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ack petef
16:05:19 [tinkster]
TOPIC: User Stories
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Zakim, next agendum
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agendum 1 was just opened, hhalpin
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+ +39.011.228.aaee
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one action was closed
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I just closed it
16:05:59 [tinkster]
hhalpin: Any progress since last week? We should probably just wrap them up, drop unfinished ones. Any issues with that?
16:06:01 [claudio]
zakim, aaee is claudio
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+claudio; got it
16:06:04 [mischat]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories
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http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserNarratives
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+??P30
16:06:35 [tinkster]
... It seems close to "done". We shouldn't spend too much more time on this.
16:06:44 [mischat]
what is the relationship between the UserStories and the UserNarratives
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we talked about this last week
16:06:55 [Adam]
think the groups were already there harry
16:07:13 [tpa]
q+
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ack tpa
16:07:25 [tinkster]
... This needs a strong editor. Henry, Oshani and Tim have sort of volunteered.
16:07:26 [mischat]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserStories#Groups is empty
16:07:32 [Zakim]
+ +46.1.08.01.aaff
16:07:42 [hhalpin]
I am happy to step you through the process of making this is HTML document...
16:08:18 [tinkster]
tpa: I was talking with Henry about this, making them more readable. Dan A gave me an OK to flesh out this idea.
16:08:34 [tinkster]
... This is on the User Narratives wiki page.
16:08:35 [PhilA2]
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zakim, number?
16:08:54 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, PhilA2.
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+ +0207220aagg
16:09:07 [PhilA2]
zakim, dial-in code?
16:09:07 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, PhilA2.
16:10:11 [Adam]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/socialweb/wiki/UserNarratives
16:10:15 [bblfish]
zakim, aagg is bblfish
16:10:15 [Zakim]
+bblfish; got it
16:10:18 [tinkster]
hhalpin: What should a roll-your-own-Social-Network tool implement?
16:10:19 [hhalpin]
Ah, I see now.
16:10:22 [Zakim]
+ +1.617.848.aahh
16:10:42 [tinkster]
tpa: There are three types of users we want to address - end users, ???, business concerns.
16:10:45 [hhalpin]
This page is great!
16:10:55 [Zakim]
+Phil_Archer
16:11:12 [hhalpin]
+1 tpa, the list is too long.
16:11:15 [Adam]
my understanding was that they were a way to weave together the user scenarios in to a larger background
16:11:22 [tinkster]
... Aim is to take a big list and make it more readable/consumable/relatable.
16:11:42 [tinkster]
hhalpin: What can we do to help?