13:00:43 RRSAgent has joined #pling 13:00:43 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-pling-irc 13:00:52 zakim, this will be pling 13:00:52 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, rigo 13:01:38 zakim, this will be PLING 13:01:38 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, rigo 13:03:02 :( Renato forgot to change the reservation 13:03:11 When I enter the conference code, Zakim tells me "The conference is restricted at this time" 13:03:42 zakim, room for 10? 13:03:43 ok, rigo; conference Team_(pling)13:03Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1403Z 13:04:00 zakim, this will be conf1 13:04:00 ok, rigo; I see Team_(pling)13:03Z scheduled to start now 13:05:04 Team_(pling)13:03Z has now started 13:05:11 +Rigo 13:05:23 +Ashok_Malhotra 13:07:48 carine, will you join the phone call? 13:08:23 rrsagent, please set log public 13:08:33 chair: Rigo 13:08:38 scribe: Rigo 13:08:44 scribenick: rigo 13:09:01 agenda: http://www.w3.org/Policy/pling/wiki/2009-11-10 13:11:52 DONE-- ACTION: Renato to send suggested wording to PLING mailing-list and wait for comments and objections for 4 days, if nothing received send to media annotations WG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-pling-minutes.html#action01] 13:12:39 AM: we need more orientation and a clearer scope to get people interested 13:12:43 RW: agree 13:14:35 ACTION: Rigo to talk to chairs about scope and teleconference frequency 13:15:17 topic: Latest news from ACAS Workshop 13:15:19 http://www.w3.org/2009/policy-ws/ 13:15:47 we received 20 Papers 13:16:00 and so far we have 20 registrations for the workshop 13:16:12 PC has already done the agenda 13:16:20 it will be published soon 13:16:52 Position papers come academia, but also from big industry 13:17:03 not from SMEs 13:17:57 talked to Eduardo Gutentag at TPAC 13:18:20 EG said, he is concerned about fragmentation if we spin out semantics standardization to W3C 13:19:22 RW ack'ed will discuss that at the Workshop 13:20:03 AM: agree with possible problem on fragmentation, we should really think about it 13:20:39 ... what has been the uptake of XACML 13:21:08 RW: industry partners tell me that's the default ACL for WS 13:23:25 ... primelife uses XACML to connect to most of the commercial database engines and OS database engines 13:23:39 ... PRIME used HP's jena engine 13:23:58 ... one could imagine that primelife is implementable with Jena too 13:25:27 TOPIC: Multimedia Annotations Working Group Feedback 13:25:38 RW: attended their meeting at TPAC 13:26:03 ... discussed about how to connect policy information to their ontology 13:26:32 ... updated the wiki: http://www.w3.org/Policy/pling/wiki/MAWGFeedback 13:27:02 ... we should be inspired by them 13:27:32 ... have already things like ma: copyright (type URI) 13:27:49 ... suggested ma:policy 13:28:18 ...tasked me to come back with a paragraph with meaning/definition of ma:policy 13:28:46 ... as ontology does only matching, just introduce another language 13:28:52 ...suggested P3P and ODRL 13:29:26 AM: if they are only translating, where does policy come in 13:29:55 RW: one of the things we discussed, was whether they create some kind of superset language 13:30:04 ...they said step for MA 2.0 13:30:33 ...they have list of languages they match 13:30:48 ... we just add and it will become part of the overall ontology 13:32:02 ...were actually very accommodating to our request 13:33:20 TOPIC: Geolocation 13:34:04 AM: geoloc document has now requirements 13:34:42 ...implementations have to guarantee privacy, it is a step forward, it is only requirements, but getting there 13:35:16 RW: talked to Arun about FF. 3.5 implementation and who to integrate Primelife results 13:35:24 ...for geolocation interface 13:35:36 ...mainly about usability studies 13:35:39 Section 4 has been expanded in the latest WG drafr 13:36:41 Primelife found the working privacy icon, footprints 13:38:23 ...talked about geolocation interface 13:38:32 ...currently very crappy 13:39:53 ...because one has to go to the page where location permission was given in order to revoke 13:40:03 ...so they have that interface open to fix anyway 13:41:05 AM: TOPIC Device API 13:41:16 TOPIC: Device API 13:41:56 AM: going to standardize several device APIs and they want to have the policy coordinated between the different APIs 13:42:03 ...that is encouraging sign.. 13:42:13 RW: looks better than geolocation 13:43:25 RW: suggest not to discuss charter today, as we are not enough people 13:43:44 ...after workshop, discuss again and perhaps narrow down 13:45:01 AM: we have to have concrete deliverables in the new charter 13:45:05 RW: agree 13:45:34 -Rigo 13:45:36 -Ashok_Malhotra 13:45:37 Team_(pling)13:03Z has ended 13:45:38 Attendees were Rigo, Ashok_Malhotra 13:45:56 rrsagent, please draft minutes 13:45:56 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-pling-minutes.html rigo 13:46:09 zakim, bye 13:46:09 Zakim has left #pling 13:46:15 rrsagent, bye 13:46:15 I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-pling-actions.rdf : 13:46:15 ACTION: Rigo to talk to chairs about scope and teleconference frequency [1] 13:46:15 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-pling-irc#T13-14-35