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15:56:32 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be MWI_TS
15:56:32 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
15:56:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
15:56:34 <trackbot> Date: 10 November 2009
15:56:56 <dom> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0000.html
15:57:00 <dom> Chair: Wilhelm
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15:59:23 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
15:59:30 <Zakim> +Carmelo
16:00:21 <dom> zakim, code?
16:00:22 <Zakim> the conference code is 8794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
16:00:37 <Zakim> + +47.23.69.aaaa
16:00:43 <Zakim> +??P8
16:01:28 <Zakim> +??P6
16:01:59 <Zakim> +dom
16:02:05 <dom> zakim, aaaa is wilhelm
16:02:05 <Zakim> +wilhelm; got it
16:02:19 <dom> zakim, ??P8 is probably Kai
16:02:20 <Zakim> +Kai?; got it
16:02:25 <dom> Zakim, ??P6 is probably dmitri
16:02:25 <Zakim> +dmitri?; got it
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16:02:35 <dom> Topic: Widgets testing
16:02:41 <dom> -> http://dev.w3.org//2006/waf/widgets/test-suite/ Widgets test suite
16:03:25 <dom> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/blog/2009/11/10/automated_testing_of_a_browser_engine Blog post on SPARTAN
16:03:30 <dom> ACTION-80?
16:03:30 <trackbot> ACTION-80 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to provide a categorized view of the widgets test suite (roughly by section) -- due 2009-12-01 -- OPEN
16:03:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/80
16:03:34 <dom> ACTION-84?
16:03:34 <trackbot> ACTION-84 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to follow up with Marcos on packaging and releasing P&C test suite -- due 2009-12-01 -- OPEN
16:03:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/84
16:03:40 <dom> ACTION-82?
16:03:40 <trackbot> ACTION-82 -- Kai Hendry to look into developing a first set of test cases for digsig based on http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/tests/#automated-testing -- due 2009-11-15 -- OPEN
16:03:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/82
16:04:22 <dom> Kai: probably worth closing now; Marcos hasn't had time to look at DigSig testability
16:04:25 <dom> close ACTION-82
16:04:25 <trackbot> ACTION-82 Look into developing a first set of test cases for digsig based on http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/tests/#automated-testing closed
16:04:33 <dom> ACTION-83?
16:04:33 <trackbot> ACTION-83 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look into automate testing from WebIDL -- due 2009-11-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW
16:04:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/83
16:05:18 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Oct/0019.html Report from dom on WebIDL testing
16:05:37 <dom> close ACTION-83
16:05:37 <trackbot> ACTION-83 Look into automate testing from WebIDL closed
16:06:03 <dom> Dom: think the tool is definitely useful; helped find some problems in Geolocation spec
16:06:11 <dom> Topic: WCTMB2
16:06:17 <dom> ACTION-73?
16:06:17 <trackbot> ACTION-73 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to create test cases for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-08-11 -- OPEN
16:06:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/73
16:06:26 <dom> Wilhelm: no progress on that yet
16:06:33 <wilhelm> http://people.opera.com/wilhelmja/wctmb2/
16:06:35 <dom> ... looked at Web storage and Web workers, but don't have code yet
16:06:45 <dom> ... I updated the test runner, but it's not complete yet
16:06:49 <dom> ACTION-86?
16:06:49 <trackbot> ACTION-86 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to finalize WCTMB2 test runner -- due 2009-10-06 -- OPEN
16:06:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/86
16:07:04 <dom> ... I'm back up to speed, and intent to finish this this week
16:07:09 <dom> ACTION-88?
16:07:09 <trackbot> ACTION-88 -- Kai Hendry to come up with additional proposals for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-10-20 -- OPEN
16:07:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/88
16:07:49 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0003.html a few proposals from Kai
16:07:57 <dom> Kai: localStorage clearly a priority
16:08:08 <dom> ... could be simply integrated in WCTMB2
16:08:27 <dom> ACTION: Wilhelm to move WCTMB2 to W3C server
16:08:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Move WCTMB2 to W3C server [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-11-17].
16:08:45 <dom> ACTION-89?
16:08:45 <trackbot> ACTION-89 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look at audio test -- due 2009-11-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW
16:08:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/89
16:09:00 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0001.html Dom's review of Audio test
16:09:09 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0004.html Wilhelm's review of audion test
16:09:12 <dom> close ACTION-89
16:09:12 <trackbot> ACTION-89 Look at audio test closed
16:09:16 <dom> close ACTION-90
16:09:16 <trackbot> ACTION-90 Look at audio test closed
16:09:28 <dom> Wilhelm: would prefer a completely automated test that we can do fully through scripting
16:09:31 <dom> Kai: I'm OK with that
16:09:51 <dom> ACTION: Kai to rewrite audio test to make it entirely script-based
16:09:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Rewrite audio test to make it entirely script-based [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-11-17].
16:10:01 <dom> Wilhelm: should we test video the same way?
16:10:16 <dom> Kai: probably
16:10:31 <dom> Wilhelm: I like the fact that you had several sources
16:10:34 <dom> ... we should keep that
16:10:39 <dom> ... esp given concerns on codecs
16:11:07 <dom> Kai: video should be easily derivable from audio, will do
16:11:15 <dom> ACTION: Kai to generate a video test for WCTMB2
16:11:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Generate a video test for WCTMB2 [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-11-17].
16:11:33 <dom> Wilhelm: we're 6 weeks away from end of charter/holidy
16:11:36 <dom> s/dy/day/
16:12:19 <dom> Dom: that's my concern indeed
16:12:34 <dom> Wilhelm: if we can have an RC in a week or two, we can have it ready by then
16:12:45 <dom> ... otherwise, would be fine continue working on this informally after charter
16:12:51 <dom> Kai: I'm keen to continue working on this
16:13:16 <dom> Dom: ok, let's continue then
16:13:25 <dom> Wilhelm: any other tests we should add?
16:13:40 <dom> [none expressed]
16:13:48 <dom> Topic: OMA
16:13:51 <dom> ACTION-21?
16:13:51 <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
16:13:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21
16:13:57 <dom> Wilhelm: propose to drop
16:14:00 <dom> close ACTION-21
16:14:00 <trackbot> ACTION-21 send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites closed
16:14:07 <dom> ACTION-21: dropped due to lack of time
16:14:07 <trackbot> ACTION-21 send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites notes added
16:14:11 <dom> ACTION-77?
16:14:11 <trackbot> ACTION-77 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review new XHTML MP test suite from oma -- due 2009-12-01 -- OPEN
16:14:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/77
16:14:32 <dom> Topic: Next meeting
16:14:45 <dom> RESOLUTION: Next meeting on Nov 17
16:14:47 <Zakim> -Carmelo
16:14:48 <Zakim> -wilhelm
16:14:48 <Zakim> -dmitri?
16:14:50 <Zakim> -dom
16:14:50 <Zakim> -Kai?
16:14:50 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
16:14:51 <Zakim> Attendees were Carmelo, +47.23.69.aaaa, dom, wilhelm, Kai?, dmitri?
16:14:53 <dom> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:14:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-minutes.html dom
16:14:55 <dom> zakim, bye
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16:15:33 <dom> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:15:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-minutes.html dom
16:20:35 <dom> RRSAgent, bye
16:20:35 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-actions.rdf :
16:20:35 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Wilhelm to move WCTMB2 to W3C server [1]
16:20:35 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-irc#T16-08-27
16:20:35 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kai to rewrite audio test to make it entirely script-based [2]
16:20:35 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-irc#T16-09-51
16:20:35 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kai to generate a video test for WCTMB2 [3]
16:20:35 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-irc#T16-11-15