IRC log of mwts on 2009-11-10
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be MWI_TS
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- ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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- Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 10 November 2009
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0000.html
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- Chair: Wilhelm
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- MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
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- +Carmelo
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- zakim, code?
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- the conference code is 8794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
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- + +47.23.69.aaaa
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- +??P8
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- +??P6
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- +dom
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- zakim, aaaa is wilhelm
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- +wilhelm; got it
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- zakim, ??P8 is probably Kai
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- +Kai?; got it
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- Zakim, ??P6 is probably dmitri
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- +dmitri?; got it
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- Topic: Widgets testing
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- -> http://dev.w3.org//2006/waf/widgets/test-suite/ Widgets test suite
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- -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/blog/2009/11/10/automated_testing_of_a_browser_engine Blog post on SPARTAN
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- ACTION-80?
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- ACTION-80 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to provide a categorized view of the widgets test suite (roughly by section) -- due 2009-12-01 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/80
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- ACTION-84?
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- ACTION-84 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to follow up with Marcos on packaging and releasing P&C test suite -- due 2009-12-01 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/84
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- ACTION-82?
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- ACTION-82 -- Kai Hendry to look into developing a first set of test cases for digsig based on http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/tests/#automated-testing -- due 2009-11-15 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/82
- 16:04:22 [dom]
- Kai: probably worth closing now; Marcos hasn't had time to look at DigSig testability
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- close ACTION-82
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- ACTION-82 Look into developing a first set of test cases for digsig based on http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/tests/#automated-testing closed
- 16:04:33 [dom]
- ACTION-83?
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- ACTION-83 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look into automate testing from WebIDL -- due 2009-11-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/83
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- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Oct/0019.html Report from dom on WebIDL testing
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- close ACTION-83
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- ACTION-83 Look into automate testing from WebIDL closed
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- Dom: think the tool is definitely useful; helped find some problems in Geolocation spec
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- Topic: WCTMB2
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- ACTION-73?
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- ACTION-73 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to create test cases for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-08-11 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/73
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- Wilhelm: no progress on that yet
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- http://people.opera.com/wilhelmja/wctmb2/
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- ... looked at Web storage and Web workers, but don't have code yet
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- ... I updated the test runner, but it's not complete yet
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- ACTION-86?
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- ACTION-86 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to finalize WCTMB2 test runner -- due 2009-10-06 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/86
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- ... I'm back up to speed, and intent to finish this this week
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- ACTION-88?
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- ACTION-88 -- Kai Hendry to come up with additional proposals for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-10-20 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/88
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- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0003.html a few proposals from Kai
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- Kai: localStorage clearly a priority
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- ... could be simply integrated in WCTMB2
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- ACTION: Wilhelm to move WCTMB2 to W3C server
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- Created ACTION-91 - Move WCTMB2 to W3C server [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-11-17].
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- ACTION-89?
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- ACTION-89 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look at audio test -- due 2009-11-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/89
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- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0001.html Dom's review of Audio test
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- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Nov/0004.html Wilhelm's review of audion test
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- close ACTION-89
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- ACTION-89 Look at audio test closed
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- close ACTION-90
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- ACTION-90 Look at audio test closed
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- Wilhelm: would prefer a completely automated test that we can do fully through scripting
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- Kai: I'm OK with that
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- ACTION: Kai to rewrite audio test to make it entirely script-based
- 16:09:52 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-92 - Rewrite audio test to make it entirely script-based [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-11-17].
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- Wilhelm: should we test video the same way?
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- Kai: probably
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- Wilhelm: I like the fact that you had several sources
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- ... we should keep that
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- ... esp given concerns on codecs
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- Kai: video should be easily derivable from audio, will do
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- ACTION: Kai to generate a video test for WCTMB2
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- Created ACTION-93 - Generate a video test for WCTMB2 [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-11-17].
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- Wilhelm: we're 6 weeks away from end of charter/holidy
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- s/dy/day/
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- Dom: that's my concern indeed
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- Wilhelm: if we can have an RC in a week or two, we can have it ready by then
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- ... otherwise, would be fine continue working on this informally after charter
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- Kai: I'm keen to continue working on this
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- Dom: ok, let's continue then
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- Wilhelm: any other tests we should add?
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- [none expressed]
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- Topic: OMA
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- ACTION-21?
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- ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21
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- Wilhelm: propose to drop
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- close ACTION-21
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- ACTION-21 send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites closed
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- ACTION-21: dropped due to lack of time
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- ACTION-21 send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites notes added
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- ACTION-77?
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- ACTION-77 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review new XHTML MP test suite from oma -- due 2009-12-01 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/77
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- Topic: Next meeting
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- RESOLUTION: Next meeting on Nov 17
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- -Carmelo
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- -wilhelm
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- -dmitri?
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- -dom
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- -Kai?
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- MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Carmelo, +47.23.69.aaaa, dom, wilhelm, Kai?, dmitri?
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-minutes.html dom
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- zakim, bye
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-minutes.html dom
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Wilhelm to move WCTMB2 to W3C server [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-irc#T16-08-27
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- ACTION: Kai to rewrite audio test to make it entirely script-based [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-irc#T16-09-51
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- ACTION: Kai to generate a video test for WCTMB2 [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/11/10-mwts-irc#T16-11-15