12:17:36 RRSAgent has joined #mw4d 12:17:36 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/11/09-mw4d-irc 12:17:43 zakim, this will be mw4d 12:17:43 ok, steph; I see MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 43 minutes 12:17:54 rrsagent, make log public 12:18:08 Meeting: MW4D IG call 12:18:40 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009Nov/0006.html 12:20:23 Chair:Steph 12:52:40 MiraS has joined #mw4d 12:57:39 zakim, code ? 12:57:39 the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph 12:58:04 MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started 12:58:10 +steph 13:01:29 zakim, who is on the phone ? 13:01:29 On the phone I see steph 13:01:45 +MiraS 13:02:00 Hi Mira 13:02:06 hello 13:02:17 it's the correct time, right? 13:02:50 raphael has joined #mw4d 13:03:41 +raphael 13:03:50 yes 13:05:07 +mira 13:06:47 PResent: stephane, Mira, Raphael 13:06:49 ArunKumar has joined #mw4d 13:07:17 + +91.98.18.01.aaaa 13:07:27 Present+Arun 13:08:05 Topic: approval of last meeting minutes 13:08:12 approved 13:08:17 approved 13:08:27 Topic: update on roadmad publication 13:08:27 fine with me too 13:08:40 http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/docs/roadmapv2.htm 13:10:35 Renjish has joined #mw4d 13:11:19 Steph: New reviews of the roadmap planned after publication (invite coments) 13:12:28 Used to renew interest too 13:12:34 on the subject 13:12:40 + +01312799aabb 13:12:43 Topic: next charter 13:12:46 OK w/me too 13:12:53 zakim, aabb is renjish 13:12:53 Hi Renjish 13:12:53 +renjish; got it 13:12:58 Present+renjish 13:13:00 no Q from me 13:13:34 Steph: doc to be published on 16 Nov. 13:13:49 http://www.w3.org/2007/12/MW4D/charter1.1.html 13:14:31 yoshiko has joined #mw4d 13:14:39 hi steph, youshiko is here. 13:14:46 hi Yoshiko 13:14:48 q+ 13:15:24 i have no phone for a moment but will join in the teleconf. as soon as one wireless phone is released. 13:16:37 + +41.22.800.aacc 13:16:47 Present+yoshiko 13:17:03 hi Yoshiko 13:17:49 hi raphael! 13:18:14 Steph: 2 types of groups 13:20:01 Raphael: interest still there, attracting attention 13:20:12 yoshiko -- speaking que 13:20:23 other initiatives without background of W3C 13:20:37 good to have this visibility, good to have the work conitnued 13:21:02 and could update the roadmap 13:21:21 rechartering on longer term sounds good 13:21:53 Yoshiko: fully agree with Raphael 13:22:09 the roadmpa paper good point of departure, will be seen by numerous people 13:22:24 revised the doc in a year 13:22:39 bigger volume of experience will come 13:22:49 good to revisit and update it 13:23:16 Mira: useful recommendation in the doc, and we could start at some of them 13:24:42 q+ 13:24:48 ack rapahel 13:24:52 q- 13:24:53 ack raphael 13:25:00 ack yoshiko 13:25:05 yoshiko: 13:25:10 media visibiity 13:26:18 Steph: question of press release 13:26:27 to be considered 13:27:33 q+ 13:27:42 action: steph to drive the advertising of the document when published 13:28:42 yoshiko: make a good press release 13:28:42 Steph: all networks' potential should be used too 13:29:34 yoshiko: i can distribute to my own lists, some other people like Katrin Verclas 13:29:41 have a great documents 13:30:09 action: stephane to work on PR 13:30:39 q= 13:30:45 q+ 13:31:15 yoshiko: follow-up, evolution 13:31:24 people should monitor different topics 13:31:40 volunteers to see how the domain evolved 13:31:53 i'm volunteering for the policy aspect 13:32:13 stephane: good idea 13:32:27 for me mobile web and voice 13:33:08 raphael: happy to monitor applications on phones (data, native applications like Java) 13:33:35 q+ 13:33:37 yoshiko: policy and social aspects 13:33:45 ack yoshiko 13:34:12 renjish: next vision might different 13:34:27 looking at beyond things 13:35:21 I agree with Renjish, but the two can be explored in parallel 13:35:55 one area could cover "new types of usages/application families" 13:36:22 q+ 13:37:58 renjish: application commonalities and differences, community interactions 13:38:48 look at margin solutions 13:38:52 We could rework the whole document structure in new versions, I guess 13:39:03 from a data perspective 13:39:53 renjish: should leave the lowest comon denominator 13:41:18 mira: issues interesting: identity and privacy, monetizing and micro-payment 13:41:55 for service to become sustainable 13:42:01 ack miras 13:42:12 ack renjish 13:43:09 q+ 13:43:24 action: steph to create a new wiki page for the future of the group 13:44:14 renjish: so many group working on ICTD, lots of studies, but any real impact analysis ? 13:44:37 q+ 13:44:54 real improvement from the customer prospective 13:45:01 any such studies ? 13:45:27 ack rapahel 13:45:39 ack raphael 13:46:01 raphel: support renjish comments, something duly missing in all project world 13:46:16 something we could work on 13:47:16 q 13:47:51 q+ yoshiko 13:47:55 q+ 13:48:02 raphael: discussion with other groups 13:49:17 creating bridges with other groups 13:49:26 These links might be of interest to the group (1) http://ict4dblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/idrc-ia-for-ict4d-compendium1.doc (2) http://insight.eun.org/ww/en/pub/insight/misc/specialreports/impact_study.htm 13:49:41 ack miras 13:50:04 miras: impact assessment of MIS: that's my primary interest 13:50:13 very little on that for now 13:50:30 no real data or publication 13:50:42 mark davies from esoko also interested 13:51:13 ack yoshiko 13:51:41 yoshiko: impact assessment: few publication because it is just started 13:52:01 we should use use our mailing-list to share information 13:52:24 q+ 13:52:47 our work need to be known and understand 13:53:04 maybe a workshop ? on teleconference call ? 13:53:10 Thanks, Arun, for the links 13:53:14 maybe a good start 13:53:18 I think that's a good idea.. 13:53:20 it needs to be understand 13:53:22 can we have a webcast? 13:53:30 Steph could perhaps present? 13:54:07 steph: webcast or online ws may be a good idea 13:54:21 ack miras 13:54:48 mira: the issue is that impact assessment is very sensitive politically 13:55:00 beyond the lact of datas 13:56:07 Another good example of impact : http://www.hole-in-the-wall.com/findings.html 13:57:23 Raphael: encourage people on wiki with a more structured page 13:58:46 Topic: next meeting 13:58:50 ok. fine 13:58:51 november 30 13:58:56 I would be travelling. Apologies. 13:59:01 14h00 cet+1 13:59:16 30th nov is good with me 13:59:28 thanks 13:59:31 -steph 13:59:31 bye 13:59:32 -raphael 13:59:32 - +41.22.800.aacc 13:59:34 - +91.98.18.01.aaaa 13:59:34 bye 13:59:35 bye 13:59:39 bye 13:59:39 -mira 13:59:41 -renjish 13:59:41 MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended 13:59:42 Attendees were steph, raphael, mira, +91.98.18.01.aaaa, +01312799aabb, renjish, +41.22.800.aacc 13:59:49 rrsagent, make minutes 13:59:49 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/09-mw4d-minutes.html steph 14:43:12 steph has left #mw4d 16:20:02 Zakim has left #mw4d