IRC log of mw4d on 2009-11-09
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- 12:17:43 [steph]
- zakim, this will be mw4d
- 12:17:43 [Zakim]
- ok, steph; I see MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 43 minutes
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- Meeting: MW4D IG call
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009Nov/0006.html
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- Chair:Steph
- 12:52:40 [MiraS]
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- zakim, code ?
- 12:57:39 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
- 12:58:04 [Zakim]
- MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
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- +steph
- 13:01:29 [steph]
- zakim, who is on the phone ?
- 13:01:29 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see steph
- 13:01:45 [MiraS]
- +MiraS
- 13:02:00 [steph]
- Hi Mira
- 13:02:06 [MiraS]
- hello
- 13:02:17 [MiraS]
- it's the correct time, right?
- 13:02:50 [raphael]
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- +raphael
- 13:03:50 [steph]
- yes
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- +mira
- 13:06:47 [steph]
- PResent: stephane, Mira, Raphael
- 13:06:49 [ArunKumar]
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- + +91.98.18.01.aaaa
- 13:07:27 [steph]
- Present+Arun
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- Topic: approval of last meeting minutes
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- approved
- 13:08:17 [MiraS]
- approved
- 13:08:27 [steph]
- Topic: update on roadmad publication
- 13:08:27 [ArunKumar]
- fine with me too
- 13:08:40 [steph]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/docs/roadmapv2.htm
- 13:10:35 [Renjish]
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- 13:11:19 [raphael]
- Steph: New reviews of the roadmap planned after publication (invite coments)
- 13:12:28 [raphael]
- Used to renew interest too
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- on the subject
- 13:12:40 [Zakim]
- + +01312799aabb
- 13:12:43 [steph]
- Topic: next charter
- 13:12:46 [raphael]
- OK w/me too
- 13:12:53 [steph]
- zakim, aabb is renjish
- 13:12:53 [raphael]
- Hi Renjish
- 13:12:53 [Zakim]
- +renjish; got it
- 13:12:58 [steph]
- Present+renjish
- 13:13:00 [ArunKumar]
- no Q from me
- 13:13:34 [raphael]
- Steph: doc to be published on 16 Nov.
- 13:13:49 [steph]
- http://www.w3.org/2007/12/MW4D/charter1.1.html
- 13:14:31 [yoshiko]
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- 13:14:39 [yoshiko]
- hi steph, youshiko is here.
- 13:14:46 [steph]
- hi Yoshiko
- 13:14:48 [raphael]
- q+
- 13:15:24 [yoshiko]
- i have no phone for a moment but will join in the teleconf. as soon as one wireless phone is released.
- 13:16:37 [Zakim]
- + +41.22.800.aacc
- 13:16:47 [steph]
- Present+yoshiko
- 13:17:03 [raphael]
- hi Yoshiko
- 13:17:49 [yoshiko]
- hi raphael!
- 13:18:14 [raphael]
- Steph: 2 types of groups
- 13:20:01 [steph]
- Raphael: interest still there, attracting attention
- 13:20:12 [yoshiko]
- yoshiko -- speaking que
- 13:20:23 [steph]
- other initiatives without background of W3C
- 13:20:37 [steph]
- good to have this visibility, good to have the work conitnued
- 13:21:02 [steph]
- and could update the roadmap
- 13:21:21 [steph]
- rechartering on longer term sounds good
- 13:21:53 [steph]
- Yoshiko: fully agree with Raphael
- 13:22:09 [steph]
- the roadmpa paper good point of departure, will be seen by numerous people
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- revised the doc in a year
- 13:22:39 [steph]
- bigger volume of experience will come
- 13:22:49 [steph]
- good to revisit and update it
- 13:23:16 [steph]
- Mira: useful recommendation in the doc, and we could start at some of them
- 13:24:42 [yoshiko]
- q+
- 13:24:48 [steph]
- ack rapahel
- 13:24:52 [raphael]
- q-
- 13:24:53 [steph]
- ack raphael
- 13:25:00 [steph]
- ack yoshiko
- 13:25:05 [steph]
- yoshiko:
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- media visibiity
- 13:26:18 [raphael]
- Steph: question of press release
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- to be considered
- 13:27:33 [yoshiko]
- q+
- 13:27:42 [steph]
- action: steph to drive the advertising of the document when published
- 13:28:42 [steph]
- yoshiko: make a good press release
- 13:28:42 [raphael]
- Steph: all networks' potential should be used too
- 13:29:34 [steph]
- yoshiko: i can distribute to my own lists, some other people like Katrin Verclas
- 13:29:41 [steph]
- have a great documents
- 13:30:09 [steph]
- action: stephane to work on PR
- 13:30:39 [yoshiko]
- q=
- 13:30:45 [yoshiko]
- q+
- 13:31:15 [steph]
- yoshiko: follow-up, evolution
- 13:31:24 [steph]
- people should monitor different topics
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- volunteers to see how the domain evolved
- 13:31:53 [steph]
- i'm volunteering for the policy aspect
- 13:32:13 [steph]
- stephane: good idea
- 13:32:27 [steph]
- for me mobile web and voice
- 13:33:08 [steph]
- raphael: happy to monitor applications on phones (data, native applications like Java)
- 13:33:35 [Renjish]
- q+
- 13:33:37 [steph]
- yoshiko: policy and social aspects
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- ack yoshiko
- 13:34:12 [steph]
- renjish: next vision might different
- 13:34:27 [steph]
- looking at beyond things
- 13:35:21 [raphael]
- I agree with Renjish, but the two can be explored in parallel
- 13:35:55 [raphael]
- one area could cover "new types of usages/application families"
- 13:36:22 [MiraS]
- q+
- 13:37:58 [steph]
- renjish: application commonalities and differences, community interactions
- 13:38:48 [steph]
- look at margin solutions
- 13:38:52 [raphael]
- We could rework the whole document structure in new versions, I guess
- 13:39:03 [steph]
- from a data perspective
- 13:39:53 [steph]
- renjish: should leave the lowest comon denominator
- 13:41:18 [steph]
- mira: issues interesting: identity and privacy, monetizing and micro-payment
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- for service to become sustainable
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- ack miras
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- ack renjish
- 13:43:09 [raphael]
- q+
- 13:43:24 [steph]
- action: steph to create a new wiki page for the future of the group
- 13:44:14 [steph]
- renjish: so many group working on ICTD, lots of studies, but any real impact analysis ?
- 13:44:37 [MiraS]
- q+
- 13:44:54 [steph]
- real improvement from the customer prospective
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- any such studies ?
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- ack rapahel
- 13:45:39 [steph]
- ack raphael
- 13:46:01 [steph]
- raphel: support renjish comments, something duly missing in all project world
- 13:46:16 [steph]
- something we could work on
- 13:47:16 [yoshiko]
- q
- 13:47:51 [steph]
- q+ yoshiko
- 13:47:55 [yoshiko]
- q+
- 13:48:02 [steph]
- raphael: discussion with other groups
- 13:49:17 [steph]
- creating bridges with other groups
- 13:49:26 [ArunKumar]
- These links might be of interest to the group (1) http://ict4dblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/idrc-ia-for-ict4d-compendium1.doc (2) http://insight.eun.org/ww/en/pub/insight/misc/specialreports/impact_study.htm
- 13:49:41 [steph]
- ack miras
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- miras: impact assessment of MIS: that's my primary interest
- 13:50:13 [steph]
- very little on that for now
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- no real data or publication
- 13:50:42 [steph]
- mark davies from esoko also interested
- 13:51:13 [steph]
- ack yoshiko
- 13:51:41 [steph]
- yoshiko: impact assessment: few publication because it is just started
- 13:52:01 [steph]
- we should use use our mailing-list to share information
- 13:52:24 [MiraS]
- q+
- 13:52:47 [steph]
- our work need to be known and understand
- 13:53:04 [steph]
- maybe a workshop ? on teleconference call ?
- 13:53:10 [raphael]
- Thanks, Arun, for the links
- 13:53:14 [steph]
- maybe a good start
- 13:53:18 [Renjish]
- I think that's a good idea..
- 13:53:20 [steph]
- it needs to be understand
- 13:53:22 [Renjish]
- can we have a webcast?
- 13:53:30 [Renjish]
- Steph could perhaps present?
- 13:54:07 [steph]
- steph: webcast or online ws may be a good idea
- 13:54:21 [steph]
- ack miras
- 13:54:48 [steph]
- mira: the issue is that impact assessment is very sensitive politically
- 13:55:00 [steph]
- beyond the lact of datas
- 13:56:07 [ArunKumar]
- Another good example of impact : http://www.hole-in-the-wall.com/findings.html
- 13:57:23 [steph]
- Raphael: encourage people on wiki with a more structured page
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- Topic: next meeting
- 13:58:50 [Renjish]
- ok. fine
- 13:58:51 [steph]
- november 30
- 13:58:56 [ArunKumar]
- I would be travelling. Apologies.
- 13:59:01 [raphael]
- 14h00 cet+1
- 13:59:16 [MiraS]
- 30th nov is good with me
- 13:59:28 [raphael]
- thanks
- 13:59:31 [Zakim]
- -steph
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- bye
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- -raphael
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- 13:59:34 [Renjish]
- bye
- 13:59:35 [ArunKumar]
- bye
- 13:59:39 [MiraS]
- bye
- 13:59:39 [Zakim]
- -mira
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- -renjish
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- MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were steph, raphael, mira, +91.98.18.01.aaaa, +01312799aabb, renjish, +41.22.800.aacc
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/11/09-mw4d-minutes.html steph
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