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15:57:10 zakim, who is on the phone?
15:57:10 sorry, dsinger, I don't know what conference this is
15:57:11 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Dzung_Tran, adrianba, shelleyp, dsinger, rubys, cardona507, paulc, w3org, kliehm, sbublava, gsnedders, richardschwerdtfe, aroben, jmb, MikeSmith,
15:57:12 RRSAgent, make logs public
15:57:14 Zakim, this will be HTML
15:57:15 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:57:15 Date: 22 October 2009
15:57:15 ... ROBOd, plh, taf2, Julian, MarcoAchury, myakura, gavin, tH, jarib, jgraham, mjs, drry, Hixie, Dashiva, ed_work_, karl, deltab, inimino, krijnh, gsnedders|work, CIA-1, syp,
15:57:20 ... gavin_, Yudai, Shunsuke, hsivonen, shepazu, johndrinkwater, trackbot, Philip
15:57:23 ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
15:57:28 zakim, mute me
15:57:28 sorry, dsinger, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
15:57:38 hi everyone
15:57:49 zakim, who is on the phone?
15:57:50 On the phone I see dsinger
15:57:52 +cardona507
15:58:00 zakim, mute me
15:58:00 dsinger should now be muted
15:58:06 + +49.179.103.aaaa
15:58:13 zakim, mute me
15:58:13 cardona507 should now be muted
15:58:15 +Sam
15:58:17 good morning
15:58:35 I think I'm too sick to dial in at all today
15:58:46 paulc agreed to take over chairing today's call
15:59:14 +[Microsoft]
15:59:20 +Plh
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15:59:28 I thought I could call in and report on my actions at least but I think I need to pump myself full of meds and go back to bed
15:59:46 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009OctDec/0006.html
15:59:59 I can scribe this week
16:00:00 +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:00:08 +[Microsoft.a]
16:00:10 scribe: MikeSmith
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16:00:17 Zakim, call Mike-Mobile
16:00:17 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:00:18 +Mike
16:00:33 +Manu
16:00:44 +[Microsoft.aa]
16:00:55 zakim, microsoft.aa is me
16:00:55 +Eliot_Graff; got it
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16:01:05 +??P24
16:01:09 Zakim, [Microsoft.a{ has paulc
16:01:09 sorry, dsinger, I do not recognize a party named '[Microsoft.a{'
16:01:12 zakim, I am ??P24
16:01:12 +manu; got it
16:01:17 zakim, Microsoft.aa has tross, krisk, adrianba
16:01:17 sorry, adrianba, I do not recognize a party named 'Microsoft.aa'
16:01:20 +Matt
16:01:30 + +1.703.234.aabb
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16:01:35 zakim, unmute me
16:01:35 dsinger should no longer be muted
16:01:37 Chair: PaulC
16:01:40 -kliehm
16:02:02 +Cynthia_Shelly
16:02:14 I think we got mixed up with Paul taking microsoft.a and I took .aa
16:02:17 zakim, mute me
16:02:17 dsinger should now be muted
16:02:20 zakim, Microsoft has tross, krisk, adrianba
16:02:20 +tross, krisk, adrianba; got it
16:02:27 +kliehm
16:03:20 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009OctDec/0006.html
16:03:34 Topic: Review of due and overdue action items
16:04:14 action-137?
16:04:14 ACTION-137 -- Larry Masinter to update IRI spec based on comments to Public-IRI (Including those from HTML-WG members), -- due 2009-10-21 -- OPEN
16:04:14 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/137
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16:05:19 action-137: Larry is working on setting up a lunch meeting during TPAC week
16:05:19 ACTION-137 Update IRI spec based on comments to Public-IRI (Including those from HTML-WG members), notes added
16:05:30 action-137 due in one week
16:05:30 ACTION-137 Update IRI spec based on comments to Public-IRI (Including those from HTML-WG members), due date now in one week
16:05:42 action-138?
16:05:42 ACTION-138 -- Steve Faulkner to produce a matrix based on Henri's work -- due 2009-10-08 -- OPEN
16:05:42 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/138
16:06:29 zakim, aabb is me
16:06:29 +Laura; got it
16:06:34 Cynthia: don't an ETA on this, try pinging Steve
16:07:08 +Julian_Reschke
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16:07:56 action-138 due in one week
16:07:56 ACTION-138 Produce a matrix based on Henri's work due date now in one week
16:08:02 Cynthia: I can send info about PF f2f agenda
16:08:34 action-139?
16:08:34 ACTION-139 -- Manu Sporny to propose 3 separate HTML5 drafts and the external Microdata draft -- due 2009-10-01 -- OPEN
16:08:34 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/139
16:08:53 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0773.html
16:08:57 manu: I sent a change proposal out
16:09:11 ... to move microdata into its own spec
16:09:37 ... I attempted to follow the HTML WG policy doc to the letter
16:09:55 paulc: so we can close this action item
16:10:18 paulc: manu, how do you want to carry this proposal forward?
16:10:49 manu: I won't be at the HTML WG f2f, unfortunately
16:11:15 action-139: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0773.html
16:11:15 ACTION-139 Propose 3 separate HTML5 drafts and the external Microdata draft notes added
16:11:18 action-139 closed
16:11:19 ACTION-139 Propose 3 separate HTML5 drafts and the external Microdata draft closed
16:11:40 manu: I have questions on next steps, will follow up with maciej
16:12:01 Status: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0803.html
16:12:08 action-127?
16:12:08 ACTION-127 -- Paul Cotton to establish process for "official WG response" to other WG's RFC on LC drafts -- due 2009-10-01 -- OPEN
16:12:08 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/127
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16:12:28 paulc: I sent a call for volunteers to review MathML 3.0
16:12:59 action-127 due in one week
16:12:59 ACTION-127 establish process for "official WG response" to other WG's RFC on LC drafts due date now in one week
16:13:02 ... if I don't get volunteers, I will need to communicate back to MathML WG that nobody has stepped forward for review
16:13:11 action-141?
16:13:11 ACTION-141 -- Maciej Stachowiak to document Last Call comment process -- due 2009-10-08 -- OPEN
16:13:11 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/141
16:13:54 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0777.html
16:14:08 paulc: there was a question from adrianba, I believe mjs responded to that
16:14:29 ... I believe the next step is to get agreement that we have the final version
16:15:08 rubys: I'm satisfied that we have come to agreement, though we have to consider how to deal with some of the issues that we open prior to deployment of this process
16:15:27 paulc: actual action item was to simply to document the process
16:15:42 action -141 closed
16:15:42 Sorry, couldn't find user - -141
16:15:49 action-141 closed
16:15:49 ACTION-141 Document Last Call comment process closed
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16:16:56 +Cooper
16:16:57 action: Paul to send CFC for review of decision policy
16:16:57 Created ACTION-155 - Send CFC for review of decision policy [on Paul Cotton - due 2009-10-29].
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16:17:18 +[apple]
16:17:31 action: Sam to send request for change proposals on outstanding open issues
16:17:31 Created ACTION-156 - Send request for change proposals on outstanding open issues [on Sam Ruby - due 2009-10-29].
16:17:33 -dsinger
16:17:39 zakim, [apple] has dsinger
16:17:39 +dsinger; got it
16:18:00 Testing Task Force
16:18:02 Topic: Status of Task Forces
16:19:01 Announcing Kris Krueger as Testing TF facilitator
16:19:04 See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2009Oct/0000.html
16:19:34 paulc: I believe chairs will encourage WG members to join the testsuite mailing list
16:20:16 krisk: feel free to reply to the message I posted, I will be at TPAC, would love to talk with people there
16:20:33 Topic: HTML Accessibility Task Force
16:21:09 paulc: we do not have a volunteer member of HTML WG to act as a facilitator in the group
16:21:20 ... we continue to work on this, we recognize we are overdue
16:21:47 [insert smiley face for 'mildly embarrassed']
16:22:05 Topic: Plans for HTML WG F2F meeting
16:22:12 action-153?
16:22:12 ACTION-153 -- Maciej Stachowiak to outline unconference format for F2F meeting - 1 week -- due 2009-10-22 -- OPEN
16:22:12 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/153
16:22:26 action-153: waiting for mjs on this
16:22:26 ACTION-153 Outline unconference format for F2F meeting - 1 week notes added
16:22:36 ACTION-153 due in one week
16:22:36 ACTION-153 Outline unconference format for F2F meeting - 1 week due date now in one week
16:23:15 action-154?
16:23:15 ACTION-154 -- Paul Cotton to check on F2F room size and number of participants -- due 2009-10-22 -- CLOSED
16:23:15 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/154
16:23:56 paulc: we have around 45 group participants registered, plus around 40 observers
16:24:06 ... and we have large rooms on both days
16:24:23 q+ Addition of RDFa WG to agenda
16:24:26 ... but we continue to work on getting set up for breakout sessions
16:24:37 q+ to discuss addition of RDFa WG to agenda
16:24:54 ... we need to give the hotel people a day ahead of time to prepare the room
16:25:20 paulc: Henri asked about getting a conference bridge for the meeting
16:25:37 ... but it is hard to see how well that would work
16:25:52 ... MikeSmith suggested it would be possible to use Skype
16:26:11 ... the co-chairs favor making good use of IRC to enable remote participation
16:26:28 ack manu
16:26:28 manu, you wanted to discuss addition of RDFa WG to agenda
16:26:37 paulc: thanks to Amy and Susan Westhaver for lots of help so far
16:26:56 q+ to say Shelley Powers volunteered to provide comments for MathML 3.0
16:27:01 q+ to talk about getting smaller rooms
16:27:01 ack laura
16:27:02 Laura, you wanted to say Shelley Powers volunteered to provide comments for MathML 3.0
16:27:03 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0806.html
16:27:27 ack mi
16:27:27 MikeSmith, you wanted to talk about getting smaller rooms
16:27:31 Laura: Shelley offered to provide comments on MathML 3.0
16:29:35 -kliehm
16:29:50 action: Michael(tm) to request two smaller rooms (big enough for 10-12 people) for breakout sessions
16:29:50 Created ACTION-157 - Request two smaller rooms (big enough for 10-12 people) for breakout sessions [on Michael(tm) Smith - due 2009-10-29].
16:29:57 -Matt
16:30:12 +kliehm
16:30:17 Topic: RDFa WG
16:30:22 +Matt
16:30:32 manu: RDFa TF charter will end in two months
16:30:41 RRSAgent, make minutes
16:30:41 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/22-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:31:07 manu: so, we are looking for a new home ... we would like a new WG chartered
16:31:47 ... HTML+RDFa work will continue in HTML WG
16:32:08 Is there a draft charter?
16:32:28 Having a draft charter would really facilitate discussion.
16:32:28 manu: we will have a draft charter available in about a week
16:32:54 Coordination on RDFa in HTML will be clearly defined.
16:33:29 manu: we are working to make sure HTML WG has control of HTML+RDFa but other work (e.g., RDFa in SVG) would be handled in another WG
16:34:12 +Shepazu
16:34:14 manu: if you are an AC rep and would like to see the RDFa work continue, we are looking for statements of support
16:34:34 Thank you Michael for scribing today.
16:34:39 Topic: Scribe for next meeting?
16:34:42 -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:34:46 [no volunteers]
16:34:49 -Cynthia_Shelly
16:34:49 [adjourned]
16:34:51 -Matt
16:34:51 -Eliot_Graff
16:34:52 thanks everyone
16:34:52 -Laura
16:34:53 cheers
16:34:54 -Cooper
16:34:55 -Plh
16:34:55 -kliehm
16:34:56 -cardona507
16:34:57 -manu
16:34:58 -Sam
16:34:59 RRSAgent, make minutes
16:34:59 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/22-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
16:35:01 -[apple]
16:35:03 -Julian_Reschke
16:35:05 -Manu
16:35:06 -Shepazu
16:35:09 -Mike
16:35:11 -[Microsoft.a]
16:35:32 Eliot_Graff: nice to see you attending telcons :)
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16:35:56 good work with the Canvas draft
16:36:10 shaepazu: Thank you!
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17:22:31 -[Microsoft]
17:22:32 HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
17:22:33 Attendees were dsinger, cardona507, +49.179.103.aaaa, Sam, kliehm, Plh, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Mike, Manu, PaulC, Eliot_Graff, Matt, +1.703.234.aabb, Cynthia_Shelly, tross, krisk,
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