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13:17:41 <tlr> Chair: fjh
13:17:42 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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13:17:43 <tlr> Regrets: robin
13:17:44 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
13:17:45 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference
13:17:45 <trackbot> Date: 21 October 2009
13:17:45 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 43 minutes
13:18:14 <tlr> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0184.html
13:18:37 <tlr> tlr has changed the topic to: DAP Teleconference code 3279 Agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0184.html ; please enter attendance with Present+ first_last , also please tell zakim who you are with zakim, aaa is $irc_nicname
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13:24:58 <fhirsch> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0195.html
13:25:59 <fhirsch> fhirsch has changed the topic to: DAP Teleconference, code 3279 Agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0195.html; please enter attendance with Present+ first_last , also please tell zakim who you are with akim, aaa is $irc_nicname 
13:26:20 <fhirsch> Regrets: Robin Berjon, Daniel Coloma
13:26:38 <fhirsch> Chair: Robin Berjon and Frederick Hirsch
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13:34:03 <dom> tlr, we have one person having asked for teleconf access to the F2F, but at this time we don't have a polycom reserved for the F2F according to http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/Schedule.html
13:34:55 <dom> I don't know if it is still time to ask for that additional equipment — susan's message isn't explicit about that http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2009OctDec/0157.html
13:35:21 <tlr> I wonder whether we could solve this by using skype with a nice microphone.
13:36:56 <fhirsch> I thought we did have one reserved.
13:37:09 <tlr> fh, that was for xmlsec
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13:51:34 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
13:51:42 <Zakim> + +039011228aaaa
13:52:04 <tlr> zakim, call thomas-781
13:52:04 <Zakim> ok, tlr; the call is being made
13:52:05 <Zakim> +Thomas
13:53:00 <tlr> zakim, drop aaaa
13:53:00 <Zakim> +039011228aaaa is being disconnected
13:53:02 <Zakim> - +039011228aaaa
13:53:53 <MoZ> fhirsch: MoZ is Mohamed Zergaoui from Innovimax
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13:54:33 <tlr> regrets+ David_Rogers
13:54:42 <marengo> Present+ Marco_Marengo
13:55:04 <Zakim> +??P10
13:55:07 <Zakim> -Thomas
13:55:08 <Zakim> +Thomas
13:55:15 <fhirsch> zakim, ??P10 is fjh
13:55:15 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
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13:55:40 <Zakim> +marengo
13:55:52 <Dzung_Tran> Present+ Dzung_Tran
13:56:17 <fhirsch> Present+ Frederick_Hirsch, Thomas_Roessler
13:56:39 <Zakim> + +035850486aabb
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13:57:37 <fhirsch> Mohammed DADAS, Daniel Coloma, Rob Ennals, Arun Ranganathan, Fabio   Ricciato, Ben Kim, Jean-Yves Bitterlich
13:57:44 <fhirsch> s/Mohammed.*//
13:57:54 <wonsuk> Present+ Wonsuk_Lee
13:58:03 <ilkka> Present+ Ilkka_Oksanen
13:58:22 <ilkka> zakim, +035850486aabb is ilkka
13:58:24 <Zakim> +ilkka; got it
13:58:57 <Zakim> +wonsuk
13:59:18 <Zakim> + +358.503.85aacc
13:59:35 <tlr> zakim, aacc is jereK
13:59:35 <Zakim> +jereK; got it
13:59:52 <JereK> Present+ Jere_Kapyaho
14:00:01 <Kangchan> Kangchan has joined #dap
14:00:08 <JereK> zakim, aacc is JereK
14:00:09 <Zakim> sorry, JereK, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
14:00:14 <Zakim> + +1.617.417.aadd
14:00:20 <Kangchan> Present+ Kangchan
14:00:26 <Zakim> + +035850486aaee
14:00:41 <Claes> Claes has joined #dap
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14:01:06 <fhirsch> zakim, aadd is lewontin
14:01:06 <Zakim> +lewontin; got it
14:01:14 <marcin> Present+ Marcin_Hanclik
14:01:16 <fhirsch> Present+ Stephen_Lewontin
14:01:19 <paddy> present+ Paddy_Byers
14:01:26 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
14:02:05 <tlr> zakim, pick a victim
14:02:05 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose fjh
14:02:07 <tlr> zakim, pick a victim
14:02:07 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose marengo
14:02:08 <Zakim> +Dzung_Tran
14:02:12 <Zakim> + +0208849aaff
14:02:14 <tlr> ack thom
14:02:20 <Zakim> + +2088290aagg
14:02:20 <Zakim> +??P24
14:02:41 <richt> richt has joined #dap
14:02:44 <tlr> Scribe: marengo
14:02:45 <marcin> Zakim, aagg is marcin
14:02:45 <Zakim> +marcin; got it
14:02:48 <tlr> zakim, mute me
14:02:48 <Zakim> sorry, tlr, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:02:53 <fhirsch> ScribeNick: marengo
14:02:54 <tlr> zakim, I am thoams
14:02:54 <Zakim> sorry, tlr, I do not see a party named 'thoams'
14:02:54 <richt> Present+ Richard_Tibbett
14:03:02 <Zakim> + +46.1.08.01.aahh
14:03:10 <JereK> zakim, jereK is really JereK
14:03:10 <Zakim> +JereK; got it
14:03:40 <Claes> Present+ Claes_Nilsson
14:03:46 <Zakim> +Dom
14:03:49 <marengo> thx
14:03:53 <tlr> topic: admin stuff
14:04:04 <dom> Present+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux
14:04:10 <tlr> Present+ Thomas_Roessler
14:04:13 <dom> zakim, mute me
14:04:13 <Zakim> Dom should now be muted
14:04:21 <dom> zakim, who's on the phone?
14:04:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Thomas, fjh, marengo, ilkka, wonsuk, JereK, lewontin, AnssiK (muted), Dzung_Tran (muted), +0208849aaff, marcin, ??P24, +46.1.08.01.aahh, Dom (muted)
14:04:50 <marengo> topic:  Announcements, meeting planning, logistics
14:05:25 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0194.html
14:05:28 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2009Oct/0006.html TPAC registration closes on Oct 23
14:05:36 <richt> Zakim, +0208849aaff is richt
14:05:36 <Zakim> +richt; got it
14:05:38 <tlr> yes, it's 1h earlier for Europe.
14:06:04 <tlr> ack thom
14:06:22 <tlr> http://esw.w3.org/topic/TPAC_Security_BOF
14:06:35 <Zakim> + +1.425.214.aaii
14:06:55 <Bryan> Bryan has joined #dap
14:07:29 <tlr> informal session
14:07:31 <tlr> Topic: minutes approval
14:07:44 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0166.html
14:08:15 <Zakim> + +82.10.20.73.aajj
14:08:20 <marengo> resolution: minutes for 2009-10-14 are approved
14:08:31 <Kangchan> zakim, aajj is Kangchan
14:08:31 <Zakim> +Kangchan; got it
14:08:32 <nwidell> nwidell has joined #dap
14:09:01 <nwidell> Present+ NIklas_Widell
14:09:13 <Bryan> present+Bryan_Bryan aaii 
14:09:26 <marengo> topic: Policy Segment
14:09:33 <Claes> zakim, +46.1.08.01.aahh is Claes
14:09:33 <Zakim> +Claes; got it
14:09:36 <fhirsch> issue-32?
14:09:36 <trackbot> ISSUE-32 -- Features, Device Capabilities, their identification, and their role in policy. -- RAISED
14:09:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/32
14:09:56 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/ 
14:09:57 <Zakim> + +04610715aakk
14:10:17 <Bryan> zakim, +14252142330 is Bryan
14:10:17 <Zakim> sorry, Bryan, I do not recognize a party named '+14252142330'
14:10:23 <marengo> Paddy: discussion kicked off on how features are identified
14:10:38 <Bryan> zakim, 4252142330 is Bryan
14:10:38 <Zakim> sorry, Bryan, I do not recognize a party named '4252142330'
14:10:46 <fhirsch> zakim, who is here?
14:10:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see Thomas, fjh, marengo, ilkka, wonsuk, JereK, lewontin, AnssiK (muted), Dzung_Tran (muted), richt, marcin, ??P24, Claes, Dom (muted), +1.425.214.aaii, Kangchan,
14:10:49 <Zakim> ... +04610715aakk
14:10:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see nwidell, Bryan, richt, marcin, paddy, Claes, Kangchan, JereK, wonsuk, Dzung_Tran, marengo, fjh-lurker, MoZ, AnssiK, fhirsch, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, ilkka, arg,
14:10:52 <fhirsch> zakim, aaii is bryan
14:10:53 <Zakim> ... trackbot, dom
14:10:53 <Zakim> +bryan; got it
14:11:40 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0185.html
14:12:28 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0160.html
14:12:39 <fhirsch> s/http.*0185.*//
14:12:55 <nwidell> zakim, +04610715aakk is nwidell
14:12:55 <Zakim> +nwidell; got it
14:13:59 <fhirsch> q+
14:14:16 <fhirsch> ack fhirsch
14:15:43 <marengo_> marengo_ has joined #dap
14:15:59 <marengo_> my connection dropped
14:16:09 <marengo_> sorry
14:17:02 <fhirsch> paddy: feature is ability to use capability for  a specific api
14:17:15 <fhirsch> q?
14:18:23 <marengo> ?issue-28
14:18:29 <tlr> issue-28?
14:18:29 <trackbot> ISSUE-28 -- [Policy] Requirement for NO security prompting -- RAISED
14:18:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/28
14:18:53 <marengo> paddy: brief discussion last week
14:18:55 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0185.html
14:18:58 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0185.html Paddy's summary on ISSUE-28
14:19:11 <marengo> ... tried to pull out the things which everybody agree
14:19:30 <dom> (linked to ACTION-28 - which I think can now be closed)
14:19:35 <marengo> ... seems clear that the requirement isn't going away
14:19:58 <marengo> ... modal prompts are bad and avoidable with good api design
14:20:13 <marengo> ... user should know something is happening
14:20:56 <marengo> ... many questions have been raised on the ML
14:21:19 <marengo> ... One was about asking just once
14:21:39 <marengo> ... and giving fine grained decision support later
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14:21:51 <Zakim> +Laura_Arribas
14:22:40 <marengo> fhirsch: suggests to create issues related to such discussion
14:23:02 <fhirsch> action: paddy to enter issues based on issue-28
14:23:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-29 - Enter issues based on issue-28 [on Paddy Byers - due 2009-10-28].
14:23:39 <marengo> fhirsch: objections to include in the requirements doc?
14:23:44 <Bryan> +1
14:24:31 <marengo> resolution: paddy to start creating a draft document related to issue-28
14:25:01 <fhirsch> issue: persisting state of user decisions
14:25:01 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-33 - Persisting state of user decisions ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/33/edit .
14:25:09 <dom> s/creating a draft document/creating a draft Policy Requirements document/
14:25:11 <Bryan> q+
14:25:20 <fhirsch> ack Bryan
14:25:33 <Bryan> q-
14:25:42 <fhirsch> Issue-33: related to blanket permission question
14:25:42 <trackbot> ISSUE-33 Persisting state of user decisions notes added
14:25:46 <marengo> action: paddy to create a draft Policy Requirements document
14:25:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-30 - Create a draft Policy Requirements document [on Paddy Byers - due 2009-10-28].
14:27:32 <Bryan> have to drop chat, will be on the phone
14:27:44 <fhirsch> Resolution: start requirements document using material from Paddy issue-28, issue-33
14:27:58 <fhirsch> issue-11?
14:27:58 <trackbot> ISSUE-11 -- Gathering requirements for FileSystem API -- OPEN
14:27:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/11
14:28:24 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0193.html
14:28:50 <marengo> marcin: we are talking about protecting apis
14:29:00 <fhirsch> protecting apis versus protecting data is possibly important consideration
14:29:09 <fhirsch> issue: Protecting data versus protecting apis
14:29:09 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-34 - Protecting data versus protecting apis ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/34/edit .
14:29:15 <dom> s/<fhirsch> Resolution:/<marengo> Resolution:/
14:29:37 <fhirsch> issue-34: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0193.html
14:29:37 <trackbot> ISSUE-34 Protecting data versus protecting apis notes added
14:29:51 <marengo> ... in dap we try to create apis for mananing contacts, events, ...
14:30:10 <marengo> ... protecting the apis is not security
14:30:32 <fhirsch> isn't this a discussion of granularity of access control?
14:30:55 <fhirsch> q+
14:31:20 <marengo> ... as a refinement of protecting apis we can go further and specify which parameters are valid or not
14:32:00 <fhirsch> Bryan: BONDI can define security sensitive parameters, e.g. limit access to file location
14:33:03 <marengo> marcin: will clarify this in BONDI
14:33:45 <marengo> fhirsch: will it work with things like Contacts
14:34:24 <fhirsch> filtering with tag based rules, e.g only sms to contact 
14:34:39 <fhirsch> lewontin: Nokia API has conditional permissions
14:34:47 <fhirsch> ... operation at time of day for example
14:35:07 <fhirsch> q-
14:35:57 <fhirsch> action: lewontin to share information on conditional permissions on list
14:35:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-31 - Share information on conditional permissions on list [on stephen lewontin - due 2009-10-28].
14:36:43 <fhirsch> try to do this before TPAC please
14:36:53 <Zakim> -nwidell
14:37:02 <marengo> ?action-16
14:37:06 <fhirsch> action-16?
14:37:06 <trackbot> ACTION-16 -- Bryan Sullivan to help review/compare device capabilities and features -- due 2009-09-30 -- OPEN
14:37:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/16
14:37:26 <fhirsch> in progress, before f2f
14:37:34 <fhirsch> action-22?
14:37:34 <trackbot> ACTION-22 -- David Rogers to provide diffs for the BONDI versions -- due 2009-10-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:37:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/22
14:37:48 <dom> close ACTION-22
14:37:48 <trackbot> ACTION-22 Provide diffs for the BONDI versions closed
14:37:57 <fhirsch> action-24?
14:37:57 <trackbot> ACTION-24 -- stephen lewontin to look into HTML5 security model -- due 2009-10-14 -- OPEN
14:37:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/24
14:38:05 <Zakim> +nwidell
14:38:06 <fhirsch> in progress
14:38:39 <dom> paddy already got an action
14:38:46 <dom> ACTION-30?
14:38:46 <trackbot> ACTION-30 -- Paddy Byers to create a draft Policy Requirements document -- due 2009-10-28 -- OPEN
14:38:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/30
14:39:00 <paddy> sorry was that a question to me?
14:39:05 <dom> ACTION-30?
14:39:05 <trackbot> ACTION-30 -- Frederick Hirsch to create a draft Policy Requirements document -- due 2009-10-28 -- OPEN
14:39:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/30
14:39:21 <paddy> happy to share an action
14:40:13 <marengo> fhirsch: f2f agenda ..... we'll work out which slots we'll use for policy discussion
14:40:22 <marengo> ... any suggestions for the agenda?
14:40:42 <marengo> ... regrets should be sent to the list, not just to the chairs
14:41:20 <marengo> topic: API segment
14:41:38 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0186.html
14:42:16 <Zakim> -Kangchan
14:42:24 <fhirsch> System Info & Events API
14:42:44 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0186.html First stab at System Info & Events API
14:43:00 <fhirsch> proposal here - http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/system-info/Overview.html
14:43:02 <dom> -> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/system-info/Overview.html A proposal for the Device API and Policy Working Group System Information and Events API. 
14:44:31 <dom> (that seems to be an awful long document - I would rather see smaller modules)
14:45:04 <dom> ack me
14:45:42 <AnssiK> +1 for making the spec modular and weeding out parts which should go to v1
14:46:01 <marengo> dom: suggests to keep only the things we are going to implement
14:46:03 <fhirsch> dom suggests may want to limit scope of the system info to cpu etc but not compass and sensors
14:46:27 <fhirsch> q?
14:47:03 <dom> q+ to talk about compass and geoloc
14:47:55 <fhirsch> dom notes compass is important API but not as a system API
14:48:10 <AnssiK> q+
14:48:14 <dom> ACTION: Dom to look into existing work around compass API at geolocation / webapps
14:48:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-32 - Look into existing work around compass API at geolocation / webapps [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-10-28].
14:48:16 <fhirsch> ack dom
14:48:16 <Zakim> dom, you wanted to talk about compass and geoloc
14:48:19 <dom> zakim, mute me
14:48:19 <Zakim> Dom should now be muted
14:48:22 <fhirsch> ack AnssiK
14:48:53 <marengo> AnssiK: had a quick look at the spec and propose to try to find out what is feasible for v1
14:49:12 <fhirsch> need to consider implications of amount and scope of work, including interop 
14:50:48 <fhirsch> all - Please review document and comment on list, which should be in system API, what should be in v2, and what should be a separate API
14:51:11 <fhirsch> action: dzung to revise system api based on list feedback
14:51:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-33 - Revise system api based on list feedback [on Dzung Tran - due 2009-10-28].
14:51:33 <marengo> topic: bondi 1.01
14:51:43 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0190.html
14:51:47 <paddy> I don't think he's on the call
14:52:34 <marengo> fhirsch: changes is 1.01 are corrections to callback names, error handling, ...
14:52:56 <fhirsch> http://bondi.omtp.org/1.01/apis/errata.html
14:53:15 <marengo> ... from a high level point of view it does not add much to discussion
14:53:31 <marengo> issue-16?
14:53:31 <trackbot> ISSUE-16 -- Gathering requirements for User Interaction API -- OPEN
14:53:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/16
14:53:41 <marengo> topic: issue-16 web notifications
14:54:05 <marengo> fhirsch: web apps and ui dap
14:54:08 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2009Oct/0177.html
14:54:13 <AnssiK> q+
14:54:19 <fhirsch> ack AnssiK
14:54:20 <Zakim> -Thomas
14:54:20 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0225.html Web NOtifications proposal i nWebApps
14:54:26 <dom> s/i nW/in W/
14:54:47 <Kangchan> Kangchan has joined #dap
14:54:53 <marengo> AnssiK: had a look at prior art, received feedback on ml
14:55:12 <marengo> ... link to WebApps WG, they are implementing web notification system in webkit
14:55:51 <marengo> ... who's taking web notifications
14:56:15 <dom> [this suggests we should take it up - and thus follow-up on the public-webapps message]
14:56:31 <fhirsch> ansii notes examples are growl etc
14:56:39 <marengo> ... (there's a discussion on the ML in the recent mails)
14:56:56 <marengo> ... multi-tasking use cases are considered
14:57:11 <marengo> ... mechanism to inform the user of an update
14:57:31 <marengo> ... without forcing the user to open the application
14:57:45 <marengo> ... we could take this
14:57:51 <dom> (there is also discussions in WebApps regarding an API discussing idleness/visibility of the browser context which is likely somewhat relevant to us as well: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009OctDec/0223.html )
14:58:09 <dom> q+
14:58:25 <dom> ack me
14:58:25 <fhirsch> ack dom
14:58:44 <marengo> dom: let's wait until next week for a decision
14:58:48 <fhirsch> suggest we make decision next week, with Robin on call
15:00:53 <dom> zakim, mute me
15:00:55 <Zakim> Dom should now be muted
15:01:04 <marengo> topic: Issue review
15:01:32 <fhirsch> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/open
15:01:38 <Zakim> -lewontin
15:03:34 <fhirsch> earlier discussed API design patterns, this action should help with moving forward
15:04:42 <dom> ACTION-21?
15:04:42 <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Bryan Sullivan to send comments about Arve's requirements for ISSUE-6 -- due 2009-09-30 -- OPEN
15:04:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/21
15:04:43 <marengo> everyone should prepare input for the requirements
15:04:57 <fhirsch> bryan suggests all prepare inputs for various API requirements for TPAC
15:05:57 <dom> (please introduce the topic on the mailing list beforehand, bryan)
15:07:30 <fhirsch> open actions http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/open
15:07:55 <marengo> fhirsch: review the open action points before tpac
15:07:56 <dom> (MWABP stands for Mobile Web Application Best Practices)
15:08:14 <marengo> topic: other business
15:08:33 <Zakim> -bryan
15:09:00 <fhirsch> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:09:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/21-dap-minutes.html fhirsch
15:09:12 <Zakim> -JereK
15:09:13 <Zakim> -Dom
15:09:16 <Zakim> -AnssiK
15:09:19 <Zakim> -Claes
15:09:20 <Zakim> -marcin
15:09:20 <Zakim> -wonsuk
15:09:21 <Zakim> -ilkka
15:09:21 <Zakim> -marengo
15:09:22 <Zakim> -nwidell
15:09:25 <Zakim> -richt
15:09:26 <fhirsch> me zakim, who is here?
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15:10:22 <Zakim> -??P24
15:10:41 <fhirsch> Present- aaii
15:10:51 <fhirsch> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:10:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/21-dap-minutes.html fhirsch
15:10:58 <Zakim> -Dzung_Tran
15:11:19 <Zakim> -fjh
15:11:44 <Zakim> -Laura_Arribas
15:11:46 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended
15:11:47 <Zakim> Attendees were +039011228aaaa, Thomas, fjh, marengo, ilkka, wonsuk, +358.503.85aacc, +1.617.417.aadd, +035850486aaee, AnssiK, lewontin, Dzung_Tran, +2088290aagg, marcin, JereK,
15:11:49 <Zakim> ... Dom, richt, +1.425.214.aaii, +82.10.20.73.aajj, Kangchan, Claes, bryan, nwidell, Laura_Arribas
15:12:56 <dom> zakim, bye
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