IRC log of ws-ra on 2009-10-20
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/10/20-ws-ra-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 19:22:50 [Zakim]
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- Zakim, this will be WSRA
- 19:22:52 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot, I see WS_WSRA()3:30PM already started
- 19:22:53 [trackbot]
- Meeting: Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference
- 19:22:53 [trackbot]
- Date: 20 October 2009
- 19:25:02 [dug]
- zakim, who is on?
- 19:25:02 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, dug.
- 19:25:28 [dug]
- zakim, who is here?
- 19:25:28 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see [IBM]
- 19:25:29 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see RRSAgent, fmaciel, asoldano, Bob, dug, trackbot, Yves
- 19:25:40 [dug]
- zakim, IBM is dug
- 19:25:40 [Zakim]
- +dug; got it
- 19:26:37 [Zakim]
- +Bob_Freund
- 19:26:48 [Ram]
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- + +1.408.274.aaaa
- 19:27:07 [fmaciel]
- zakim, aaaa is fmaciel
- 19:27:07 [Zakim]
- +fmaciel; got it
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- + +39.331.574.aabb
- 19:27:46 [asoldano]
- zakim, +39.331.574.aabb is asoldano
- 19:27:46 [Zakim]
- +asoldano; got it
- 19:28:18 [asoldano]
- is there a webpage with these directions?
- 19:28:30 [asoldano]
- (I assume next time I'll scribe...)
- 19:28:33 [Ashok]
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- +[Microsoft]
- 19:28:49 [asoldano]
- ok, I'll search
- 19:28:51 [asoldano]
- thanks
- 19:29:15 [Zakim]
- + +984999aacc
- 19:29:27 [li]
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- 19:29:47 [Bob]
- scribe: Fred maciel
- 19:29:47 [Bob]
- regrets+ Yves lafon
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- scribenick: fmaciel
- 19:29:47 [Bob]
- Topic: Opening
- 19:30:05 [Zakim]
- +Ashok_Malhotra
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- + +1.571.262.aadd
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- + +1.408.642.aaee
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- +Tom_Rutt
- 19:32:41 [Zakim]
- + +1.908.696.aaff
- 19:32:41 [Bob]
- regrets+ Katy Warr
- 19:33:16 [li]
- zakim, aaff is li
- 19:33:17 [Zakim]
- +li; got it
- 19:33:19 [asir]
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- 19:33:53 [Bob]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Oct/0042.html
- 19:34:55 [fmaciel]
- added issues 7553 and 7207 to agenda
- 19:35:15 [Sreed]
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- 19:36:07 [fmaciel]
- added issue 7982 to agenda
- 19:37:08 [dug]
- thanks for not infecting us :-)
- 19:37:12 [asoldano]
- ;-)
- 19:37:24 [Zakim]
- -Ashok_Malhotra
- 19:39:37 [fmaciel]
- Agenda approved as amended
- 19:40:02 [fmaciel]
- topic: New Issues
- 19:40:04 [dug]
- 7 new issues
- 19:40:34 [Vikas]
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- All seven new issues approved
- 19:41:07 [Ram]
- q+
- 19:41:50 [fmaciel]
- topic: Approval of minutes
- 19:42:25 [Bob]
- ack ram
- 19:42:43 [fmaciel]
- RESOLUTION: minutes of Oct 13 approved
- 19:42:54 [fmaciel]
- Topic: Logistics
- 19:43:13 [asoldano]
- at least 5 sec I'd say
- 19:44:05 [dug]
- q+
- 19:44:19 [fmaciel]
- November F2F: FYI 7 registered observers
- 19:45:16 [Bob]
- ack dug
- 19:45:19 [fmaciel]
- January F2F: No objection to dates (2010-01-26 through 2010-01-28).
- 19:45:43 [fmaciel]
- Location is Sunnyvale, CA. See e-mail from Dave for more details.
- 19:46:07 [gpilz]
- q+
- 19:46:22 [Bob]
- ack gp
- 19:46:39 [fmaciel]
- Topic: Handling of external reviewer's comments
- 19:47:00 [gpilz]
- +1 to creating issues - only way to track the comments
- 19:47:58 [fmaciel]
- Need to create issue, review resolution with reviewer and see if reviewer agrees.
- 19:48:46 [dug]
- +1 to them opening the issues - that way they're worded corrcetly
- 19:48:48 [dug]
- correctly
- 19:48:56 [fmaciel]
- Topic: Issues with proposals
- 19:49:08 [fmaciel]
- Issue 7068
- 19:49:11 [dug]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Oct/0018.html
- 19:50:02 [Ram]
- q+
- 19:50:26 [Bob]
- ack ram
- 19:50:50 [dug]
- When present, this OPTIONAL parameter .... (add OPTIONAL)
- 19:53:44 [dug]
- Add OPTIONAL to all specs/all optional policy parameters
- 19:54:09 [fmaciel]
- RESOLUTION: Approved as amended with "OPTIONAL" text.
- 19:54:40 [fmaciel]
- Issue 7811
- 19:56:59 [fmaciel]
- RESOLUTION: proposal in issue approved.
- 19:57:11 [fmaciel]
- Issue 7207
- 19:57:17 [dug]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7207
- 19:58:12 [dug]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Oct/0049.html
- 19:59:21 [fmaciel]
- RESOLUTION: proposal approved.
- 19:59:53 [fmaciel]
- Issue 7553
- 20:00:18 [dug]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Oct/0045.html
- 20:01:49 [fmaciel]
- Message 45 should be included in the bug as part of the proposal
- 20:02:23 [fmaciel]
- RESOLUTION: approved with updated proposal including message 45
- 20:03:23 [Ram]
- q+
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- q-
- 20:04:26 [fmaciel]
- Issue 7982
- 20:04:34 [dug]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7982
- 20:05:55 [fmaciel]
- RESOLUTION: proposal accepted, resolved.
- 20:06:33 [fmaciel]
- Issue: 7828 7588 7586
- 20:06:33 [trackbot]
- Created ISSUE-1 - 7828 7588 7586 ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/tracker/issues/1/edit .
- 20:07:03 [fmaciel]
- Oops - please erase later
- 20:07:13 [fmaciel]
- Issue 7828 7588 7586
- 20:07:14 [dug]
- s/Issue:/Topic: Issue/
- 20:07:30 [fmaciel]
- Thanks dug
- 20:07:34 [dug]
- yep
- 20:08:02 [Bob]
- Topic: Issues 7828, 7588, 7586
- 20:08:24 [dug]
- Latest note on this: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Oct/0044.html
- 20:10:12 [dug]
- sort of - proposal is here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Oct/0044.html the other link has some minor editorial tweaks.
- 20:10:52 [dug]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Oct/0041.html
- 20:11:05 [Ram]
- q+
- 20:11:11 [dug]
- 41 == proposal, 44 is editorial suggestions
- 20:11:27 [Bob]
- ack ram
- 20:13:50 [fmaciel]
- Ram to review, postpone to next week
- 20:14:26 [fmaciel]
- topic: Issue 6435
- 20:15:21 [dug]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Sep/att-0032/Eventing-State-Tables-v3.doc
- 20:15:43 [Ram]
- Issue 7912 could be resolved today.
- 20:18:32 [Zakim]
- +fjh2
- 20:18:35 [dug]
- q+
- 20:18:36 [DaveS]
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- 20:19:49 [asir]
- Didn't we eliminate some of the states at the Hursley F2F?
- 20:20:52 [Bob]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 20:21:04 [Zakim]
- Bob, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fjh2 (19%), +1.408.642.aaee (25%)
- 20:21:22 [li]
- q+
- 20:22:33 [Bob]
- ack dug
- 20:23:44 [Bob]
- ack li
- 20:23:45 [Ram]
- q+
- 20:24:13 [dug]
- +1 to Subscriber/EventSink
- 20:24:50 [Bob]
- ack ram
- 20:26:48 [dug]
- zakim who is making noise?
- 20:26:55 [li]
- loud noise
- 20:26:57 [dug]
- I hear TONS of static
- 20:26:57 [asir]
- too noisy
- 20:27:12 [fmaciel]
- All willing to accept proposal except for
- 20:27:14 [fmaciel]
- Ram
- 20:27:16 [gpilz]
- zakim, who is making noise
- 20:27:16 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who is making noise', gpilz
- 20:27:23 [asoldano]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 20:27:24 [dug]
- bob -can'thear you
- 20:27:27 [li]
- can't hear anything
- 20:27:29 [Ram]
- Can't hear anything!
- 20:27:33 [fmaciel]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 20:27:38 [Zakim]
- asoldano, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: dug (27%), Bob_Freund (72%)
- 20:27:49 [Zakim]
- fmaciel, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fjh2 (32%), dug (7%), Bob_Freund (7%)
- 20:28:13 [asir]
- q+
- 20:29:46 [dug]
- 7970 might be an easy one
- 20:30:52 [Zakim]
- - +984999aacc
- 20:31:00 [fmaciel]
- Topic: issue 7912
- 20:32:27 [asoldano]
- perhpaps we can wait a week for this
- 20:32:37 [gpilz]
- q+
- 20:32:49 [Zakim]
- + +984999aagg
- 20:33:08 [asir]
- the proposal sounds concrete enough
- 20:33:13 [Bob]
- ack asir
- 20:34:51 [DaveS]
- The idnifier field was there already right?
- 20:34:56 [gpilz]
- yeah
- 20:34:56 [dug]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7912
- 20:36:14 [Bob]
- acl gpi
- 20:36:16 [Bob]
- ack gpi
- 20:38:10 [DaveS]
- +1
- 20:42:00 [dug]
- 7970 might be easy
- 20:42:26 [fmaciel]
- action: Doug/Katie to write concrete proposal
- 20:42:26 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - Doug/Katie
- 20:42:40 [dug]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7970
- 20:42:51 [fmaciel]
- Bob, please edit again
- 20:43:03 [fmaciel]
- Topic: issue 7970
- 20:43:53 [dug]
- proposal 1: A Web service that accepts requests to create subscriptions.
- 20:43:53 [Ram]
- I need more time to review this issue.
- 20:44:06 [dug]
- Proposal 2: A Web service that accepts requests to create subscriptions for a certain set of notification that might be generated.
- 20:44:33 [Bob]
- action: Doug and Katy to produce a more concrete proposal for Issue-7912
- 20:44:33 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-118 - And Katy to produce a more concrete proposal for Issue-7912 [on Doug Davis - due 2009-10-27].
- 20:44:43 [Ram]
- This changes the notion that the event source generates the events.
- 20:45:34 [li]
- proposal 2 is better
- 20:45:38 [Ram]
- q+
- 20:45:54 [Bob]
- ack ram
- 20:47:49 [dug]
- for proposal 2: s/notification/notifications/
- 20:48:23 [fmaciel]
- review and resolution posponed
- 20:49:19 [fmaciel]
- Topic: issue 7968
- 20:50:30 [fmaciel]
- RESOLUTION: proposal accepted.
- 20:50:37 [dug]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7969
- 20:51:14 [fmaciel]
- Topic: issue 7969
- 20:52:38 [fmaciel]
- resolution postponed
- 20:52:55 [dug]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7986
- 20:54:26 [Zakim]
- - +1.571.262.aadd
- 20:54:30 [asir]
- q+
- 20:54:41 [Bob]
- ack asir
- 20:54:52 [fmaciel]
- Topic: issue 7986
- 20:59:54 [Zakim]
- - +984999aagg
- 20:59:55 [Zakim]
- - +1.408.642.aaee
- 20:59:56 [Zakim]
- -[Microsoft]
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- -Bob_Freund
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- -fjh2
- 20:59:59 [Zakim]
- -li
- 20:59:59 [Zakim]
- -dug
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- -fmaciel
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- -asoldano
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 21:00:34 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/20-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob
- 21:00:39 [Bob]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/20-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob
- 21:04:17 [Bob]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/20-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob
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- disconnecting the lone participant, Tom_Rutt, in WS_WSRA()3:30PM
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- Attendees were dug, Bob_Freund, +1.408.274.aaaa, fmaciel, asoldano, [Microsoft], +984999aacc, Ashok_Malhotra, +1.571.262.aadd, +1.408.642.aaee, Tom_Rutt, +1.908.696.aaff, li, fjh2,
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- ... +984999aagg
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