13:29:02 RRSAgent has joined #bpwg 13:29:02 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/10/20-bpwg-irc 13:29:04 RRSAgent, make logs public 13:29:04 Zakim has joined #bpwg 13:29:06 Zakim, this will be BPWG 13:29:06 ok, trackbot, I see MWI_BPWG()9:30AM already started 13:29:07 Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference 13:29:07 Date: 20 October 2009 13:29:11 Chair: jo 13:29:21 Regrets: jeffs, SangwhanMoon, Yeliz, brucel, adam, manrique, nacho, abel 13:29:23 I'm dialled in but waiting for first caller 13:29:48 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Oct/0026.html 13:30:14 DKA has joined #bpwg 13:30:16 miguel has joined #bpwg 13:30:31 zakim, code? 13:30:31 the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jo 13:30:48 +??P1 13:30:53 zakim, ??p1 13:30:53 I don't understand '??p1', francois 13:31:05 zakim, ??p1 is me 13:31:05 +francois; got it 13:31:07 + +0208995aaaa 13:31:09 + +0771785aabb 13:31:13 zakim, mute me 13:31:13 francois should now be muted 13:31:16 zakim, aaaa is me 13:31:16 +jo; got it 13:31:17 zakim, aabb is me 13:31:17 +DKA; got it 13:31:22 +[W3C-Spain] 13:31:34 Zakim, [W3C-Spain] is me 13:31:34 +miguel; got it 13:32:05 zakim, who is here? 13:32:05 On the phone I see ??P0, francois (muted), jo, DKA, miguel 13:32:06 On IRC I see miguel, DKA, Zakim, RRSAgent, tomhume, jo, francois, trackbot 13:32:13 zakim, ??P0 is me 13:32:13 +tomhume; got it 13:32:22 zakim, unmute me 13:32:22 francois should no longer be muted 13:32:32 achuter has joined #bpwg 13:32:37 zakim, mute me 13:32:37 francois should now be muted 13:33:04 SeanP has joined #bpwg 13:33:16 +[IPcaller] 13:33:20 EdC has joined #bpwg 13:33:26 zakim, IPCaller is me 13:33:26 +achuter; got it 13:33:58 -francois 13:34:00 + +41.31.972.aacc 13:34:18 +francois 13:34:25 zakim, mute me 13:34:25 francois should now be muted 13:34:28 + +1.630.414.aadd 13:34:34 zaki cc is edc 13:34:36 Zakim, aadd is me 13:34:36 +SeanP; got it 13:35:06 zakim, who is here? 13:35:06 On the phone I see tomhume, jo, DKA, miguel, achuter, +41.31.972.aacc, francois (muted), SeanP 13:35:08 On IRC I see EdC, SeanP, achuter, miguel, DKA, Zakim, RRSAgent, tomhume, jo, francois, trackbot 13:35:19 zakim aacc is Ed 13:35:36 zakim, who is making noise? 13:35:39 zakim, aacc is EdC 13:35:39 +EdC; got it 13:35:49 francois, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: jo (14%) 13:36:18 + +0496151aaee 13:36:22 zakim, mute me 13:36:22 jo should now be muted 13:36:26 zakim, who is making noise? 13:36:29 Kai has joined #bpwg 13:36:44 francois, listening for 16 seconds I heard sound from the following: DKA (6%), +0496151aaee (3%) 13:36:55 ack me 13:37:15 zakim, aaee is Kai 13:37:15 +Kai; got it 13:37:19 zakim, mute me 13:37:19 achuter should now be muted 13:37:30 I can 13:38:03 Scribe: Dan 13:38:10 ScribeNick: DKA 13:38:17 Jo: let's get this ball on the road. 13:38:22 zakim, unmute me 13:38:22 francois should no longer be muted 13:38:31 Topic: Next F2F (London December 2009) 13:38:46 Francois: I prepared a questionnaire - http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/37584/f2f-london-2009/? 13:39:00 Francois: You all should fill it out to register. 13:39:06 Francois: December 9-11. 13:39:20 Francois: Need a venue page prepared. 13:39:27 DKA: Yes I'll help. 13:39:42 I am still pending 13:40:07 Topic: MWABP 13:40:19 zakim, mute me 13:40:19 francois should now be muted 13:40:22 Jo: Editorial meeting last Friday. Present were Phil Archer, Dan, Adam and Myself. 13:40:57 Jo: We went through a lot of editorial stuff and Adam to take away which he did. 13:41:11 Jo: No additional comments have come in on the comments list. Not much to discuss there. 13:41:14 Topic: BP 1.5 13:41:22 zakim, unmute me 13:41:22 francois should no longer be muted 13:41:24 Jo: BP 1.5 has yet a new name. 13:41:37 Francois: Yes, all set, to be published later on today. 13:41:40 Yeah!!! 13:41:56 Jo: Yet another hit document from the mobile web best practices working group about to hit the streets. 13:42:01 Jo: Kai, your thoughts? 13:42:20 Kai: I am speechless. 13:42:27 Topic: CT Document 13:42:39 Francois: We have 2 additional comments since last week. 13:43:16 Francois: Two from Thomas [R]. One positive, but suggesting additional non-normative changes regarding same-origin policy. 13:43:41 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-comments/2009OctDec/0032.html Thomas comments 13:44:28 Francois: Other comment was - other factors to be considered by CT proxies in order to transform the result... He suggests we allow the case where the desktop browser is used over the mobile network... 13:44:57 ACTION-1021? 13:44:57 ACTION-1021 -- Jo Rabin to make changes to CT Landscape and then propose to group -- due 2009-10-20 -- PENDINGREVIEW 13:44:57 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1021 13:45:00 Jo: I suggest we take them as a block a bit later when we get some more. 13:45:19 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Oct/0021.html CT Landscape proposal 13:45:43 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Oct/0027.html fd suggestions 13:46:49 Jo: I think that francois's suggestion is fine. We should get on and publish it with a few changes. I won't use exactly the words you've suggested but will make the edits... 13:47:18 PROPOSED RESOLUTION: request publication of CT Landscape doc modulo Jo implementing the changes suggested by Francois, with slight editorial alteration 13:47:27 +1 13:47:27 +1 13:47:29 +1 13:47:29 +1 13:47:34 +1 13:47:44 RESOLUTION: request publication of CT Landscape doc modulo Jo implementing the changes suggested by Francois, with slight editorial alteration 13:47:54 close ACTION-1021 13:47:54 ACTION-1021 Make changes to CT Landscape and then propose to group closed 13:47:57 close ACTION-1021 13:47:57 ACTION-1021 Make changes to CT Landscape and then propose to group closed 13:48:14 close ACTION-1020 13:48:14 ACTION-1020 Prepare the registration form and to officialize the F2F closed 13:48:41 Topic: CT Test Suites 13:48:45 +1 13:48:49 q+ 13:48:55 Francois: pleeeeaaaase contribute tests for CT test suite! 13:49:10 Francois: Who will be ready to work on this? It won't magically appear. 13:49:11 ack s 13:49:40 Sean: I have an action to check on this - we don't have any thing but I will volunteer to help out on making the test suites. 13:49:47 Francois: I will get Dom to do it. 13:50:12 s/get Dom to do it/check with Dom on how he has done this in the past/ 13:50:22 Topic: Issues and Actions 13:50:24 close ACTION-1007 13:50:24 ACTION-1007 Check if novarra has tests they could contribute for CT guidelines closed 13:50:28 Kai has joined #bpwg 13:50:34 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/open 13:51:11 ACTION-964 13:51:14 ACTION-964? 13:51:14 ACTION-964 -- Tom Hume to review AtomDB for potential inclusion/reference in MWABP -- due 2009-06-09 -- PENDINGREVIEW 13:51:14 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/964 13:51:22 close ACTION-964 13:51:22 ACTION-964 Review AtomDB for potential inclusion/reference in MWABP closed 13:52:29 Jo: I wanted to remind everyone that Francois wants a bag of test suites. We have that to do and not much time to do it. 13:52:56 ACTION: Dan to ping internally in Vodafone to see if we have any ability to help with CT test suites. 13:52:56 Created ACTION-1022 - Ping internally in Vodafone to see if we have any ability to help with CT test suites. [on Daniel Appelquist - due 2009-10-27]. 13:53:26 zakim, unmute me 13:53:26 achuter should no longer be muted 13:54:01 q+ 13:54:08 ack franco 13:55:12 -tomhume 13:55:13 -Kai 13:55:14 -jo 13:55:14 -francois 13:55:16 -achuter 13:55:16 -DKA 13:55:19 -miguel 13:55:22 bye 13:55:26 -SeanP 13:55:28 -EdC 13:55:28 MWI_BPWG()9:30AM has ended 13:55:29 Attendees were francois, +0208995aaaa, +0771785aabb, jo, DKA, miguel, tomhume, achuter, +41.31.972.aacc, +1.630.414.aadd, SeanP, EdC, +0496151aaee, Kai 13:56:08 RRSAgent, draft minutes 13:56:08 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/20-bpwg-minutes.html francois