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14:47:24 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-irc
14:47:26 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:47:28 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7322733
14:47:28 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
14:47:29 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
14:47:29 <trackbot> Date: 15 October 2009
14:52:09 <jsequeda> Good morning/afternoon to everybody
14:52:20 <mhausenblas> hi there jsequeda 
14:53:39 <Ahmed> Ahmed has joined #RDB2RDF
14:54:10 <hhalpin> Zakim, agenda+ "Introduction"
14:54:10 <Zakim> agendum 1 added
14:54:15 <whalb> whalb has joined #RDB2RDF
14:54:15 <mhausenblas> very well, now we have Ahmed also on board - all set, ready to start
14:54:20 <hhalpin> Zakim, agenda+ "Future Meetings"
14:54:20 <Zakim> agendum 2 added
14:54:26 <mhausenblas> hhalpin: we do have an agenda
14:54:34 <hhalpin> Zakim, agenda+ "WG Tools"
14:54:34 <Zakim> agendum 3 added
14:54:42 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2009Oct/0002.html
14:54:49 <lma> lma has joined #RDB2RDF
14:54:52 <hhalpin> That's what I'm adding in.
14:55:06 <mhausenblas> are you gonna scribe? then fine with me :)
14:55:15 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()11:00AM has now started
14:55:22 <Zakim> + +1.512.484.aaaa
14:55:26 <hhalpin> Zakim, agenda+ "Goals and Objectives"
14:55:26 <Zakim> agendum 4 added
14:55:34 <hhalpin> Zakim, agenda+ "AOB"
14:55:34 <Zakim> agendum 5 added
14:55:53 <Zakim> + +3539149aabb
14:55:53 <hhalpin> mhausenblas: then you can say "Zakim, next agendum" and the minutes get formatted nicely, etc."
14:56:14 <Zakim> - +3539149aabb
14:56:47 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer
14:56:50 <Zakim> + +3539149aacc
14:57:11 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who'e on the call?
14:57:11 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, mhausenblas.
14:57:17 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's on the call?
14:57:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.512.484.aaaa, Joseph_Scheuhammer, +3539149aacc
14:57:28 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aacc is me
14:57:28 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it
14:58:01 <jsequeda> Zakim, aaaa is me
14:58:02 <Zakim> +jsequeda; got it
14:58:07 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who is here?
14:58:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas
14:58:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see lma, whalb, Ahmed, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
14:58:09 <Zakim> +??P36
14:58:29 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who is here?
14:58:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, ??P36
14:58:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see lma, whalb, Ahmed, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
14:58:38 <mhausenblas> Zakim, ??P36 is Ahmed 
14:58:38 <Zakim> +Ahmed; got it
14:59:23 <Zakim> + +39.046.188.aadd
14:59:41 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aaee
15:00:45 <Zakim> + +043316876aaff
15:01:08 <angela> angela has joined #rdb2rdf
15:01:13 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaff is whalb 
15:01:13 <Zakim> +whalb; got it
15:01:26 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aadd is angela 
15:01:26 <Zakim> +angela; got it
15:01:27 <Zakim> + +1.781.907.aagg
15:01:43 <cygri> cygri has joined #rdb2rdf
15:01:43 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aahh
15:01:44 <Zakim> + +7.791.000.0.aaii
15:02:27 <cygri> zakim, cygri is Richard
15:02:27 <Zakim> sorry, cygri, I do not recognize a party named 'cygri'
15:03:58 <mhausenblas> alternatively you can use http://www.mibbit.com/
15:04:10 <Souri> Souri has joined #rdb2rdf
15:06:15 <hhalpin> Zakim, call +49017635785890
15:06:15 <Zakim> I am sorry, hhalpin; I do not know a number for +49017635785890
15:06:19 <metatomix> metatomix has joined #rdb2rdf
15:06:29 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who is here?
15:06:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, +1.603.897.aaee, whalb, +1.781.907.aagg, +7.791.000.0.aaii, +1.603.897.aahh
15:06:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see metatomix, Souri, cygri, angela, lma, whalb, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
15:06:34 <iv_an_ru> mhausenblas, I've failed to connect via phone :|
15:06:52 <iv_an_ru> Is Orri on phone?
15:07:03 <metatomix> metatomix is here.
15:08:25 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aagg is metatomix 
15:08:25 <Zakim> +metatomix; got it
15:09:16 <hhalpin> Zakim, who's on the phone?
15:09:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, +1.603.897.aaee, whalb, metatomix, +7.791.000.0.aaii, +1.603.897.aahh
15:10:15 <Zakim> - +1.603.897.aahh
15:10:23 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who is here?
15:10:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, +1.603.897.aaee, whalb, metatomix, +7.791.000.0.aaii
15:10:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see metatomix, Souri, cygri, angela, lma, whalb, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
15:10:35 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaee is Seema 
15:10:36 <Zakim> +Seema; got it
15:10:39 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who is here?
15:10:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, Seema, whalb, metatomix, +7.791.000.0.aaii
15:11:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see metatomix, Souri, cygri, angela, lma, whalb, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
15:11:21 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aajj
15:11:47 <Zakim> +??P28
15:11:56 <Souri> I just joined as +1.603.897.aajj
15:11:59 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aajj  is Souri 
15:11:59 <Zakim> +Souri; got it
15:12:26 <test> test has joined #rdb2rdf
15:12:53 <test> test has left #rdb2rdf
15:13:30 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who is here?
15:13:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, Seema, whalb, metatomix, +7.791.000.0.aaii, ??P28, Souri
15:13:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see metatomix, Souri, cygri, angela, lma, whalb, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
15:13:36 <hhalpin> Zakim, call out  HH-Mobile-de
15:13:41 <Zakim> I don't understand 'call out  HH-Mobile-de', hhalpin
15:13:47 <hhalpin> Zakim, call HH-Mobile-de
15:13:47 <Zakim> ok, hhalpin; the call is being made
15:13:49 <Zakim> +HH
15:14:01 <mhausenblas> Zakim, ?PP28 is hhalpin 
15:14:01 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named '?PP28'
15:14:07 <mhausenblas> Zakim, ?P28 is hhalpin 
15:14:07 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named '?P28'
15:14:15 <mhausenblas> Zakim, ??P28 is hhalpin 
15:14:15 <Zakim> +hhalpin; got it
15:14:25 <iv_an_ru> Zakim, call +73833064586
15:14:25 <Zakim> I am sorry, iv_an_ru; I do not know a number for +73833064586
15:14:36 <Zakim> -HH
15:14:38 <iv_an_ru> Zakim, call 73833064586
15:14:38 <Zakim> I am sorry, iv_an_ru; I do not know a number for 73833064586
15:14:45 <Zakim> + +1.585.919.aakk
15:15:07 <hhalpin> Zakim, call HH-Mobile-de
15:15:07 <Zakim> ok, hhalpin; the call is being made
15:15:09 <Zakim> +HH
15:15:54 <Zakim> -HH
15:16:13 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
15:16:14 <Zakim> On IRC I see metatomix, Souri, cygri, angela, lma, whalb, Zakim, RRSAgent, jsequeda, Seema, nunolopes, MacTed, mhausenblas, hhalpin, iv_an_ru, trackbot
15:16:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see jsequeda, Joseph_Scheuhammer, mhausenblas, Ahmed, angela, Seema, whalb, metatomix, +7.791.000.0.aaii, hhalpin, Souri, +1.585.919.aakk
15:16:22 <soeren> soeren has joined #RDB2RDF
15:16:32 <marcelo> marcelo has joined #RDB2RDF
15:16:38 <hhalpin> :)
15:16:46 <hhalpin> Zakim, next agendum
15:16:46 <Zakim> agendum 1. ""Introduction"" taken up [from hhalpin]
15:17:57 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who is making noise?
15:18:08 <Zakim> mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.585.919.aakk (15%), mhausenblas (72%), +7.791.000.0.aaii (34%)
15:18:46 <mhausenblas> Zakim, marcelo is aaii
15:18:46 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named 'marcelo'
15:18:59 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaii is marcelo 
15:18:59 <Zakim> +marcelo; got it
15:19:41 <mhausenblas> Zakim, next agendum
15:19:41 <Zakim> agendum 2. ""Future Meetings"" taken up [from hhalpin]
15:20:10 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas
15:21:07 <Ahmed> Ahmed has joined #RDB2RDF
15:21:50 <mhausenblas> Ahmed: introduction and roll call
15:22:38 <mhausenblas> Zakim, take up agendum 1
15:22:38 <Zakim> agendum 1. ""Introduction"" taken up [from hhalpin]
15:22:48 <mhausenblas> Introduction round
15:23:20 <mhausenblas> soeren: linked data background, Triplify, one of the DBpedia founders
15:24:03 <mhausenblas> cygri: DERI, main developer of D2RQ, interested in linked data, information integration
15:25:05 <Souri> Could you show the order please?
15:25:12 <mhausenblas> order of what? :)
15:26:25 <mhausenblas> Souri and Seema: we are interested here RDB2RDF here at Oracle as we have a lot of relational data as you can guess
15:26:43 <mhausenblas> s/here RDB2RDF/in RDB2RDF
15:27:26 <hhalpin> hhalpin has joined #rdb2rdf
15:27:27 <Ahmed> Ahmed has joined #RDB2RDF
15:28:25 <mhausenblas> Orri: from OpenLink, long time doing DB federation, etc., main contributor to linked data community
15:28:33 <Zakim> + +44.131.208.aall
15:28:47 <hhalpin> Zakim, aall is hhalpin
15:28:47 <Zakim> +hhalpin; got it
15:29:17 <mhausenblas> Chair: Ahmed 
15:29:23 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:29:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
15:29:53 <hhalpin> scribe: hhalpin
15:30:02 <hhalpin> Orri is presenting next week
15:30:08 <hhalpin> From OpenLink
15:30:12 <hhalpin> Ahmed: from HP
15:30:20 <hhalpin> ... interests in integration
15:30:27 <hhalpin> ... works in RDF
15:30:35 <hhalpin> Angelo: new to this group
15:30:43 <hhalpin> ... postdoc at OKKAM project
15:31:06 <hhalpin> ... co-ordinating all the work for use-cases, interest in entity identifiers for linked data
15:31:16 <hhalpin> ... automatically extraxting entities from relational data
15:31:22 <hhalpin> ... automatically identify these entities.
15:31:34 <hhalpin> ... background in multimedia IR
15:31:43 <hhalpin> Howard: from Metamotix
15:31:51 <hhalpin> ... been in semantic technology world for 8-9 years
15:32:01 <hhalpin> ... developed middleware integration platform.
15:32:39 <hhalpin> ... integrating structured and semi-structured data
15:32:52 <hhalpin> Howard is presenting in early november.
15:33:08 <hhalpin> Wolfgang: Working in Austria
15:33:19 <hhalpin> ... has but Eurostat as Linked Data
15:33:24 <hhalpin> ... did work in XG
15:34:31 <hhalpin> Harry: W3C Fellow from Uni. of Edinburgh
15:34:42 <hhalpin> ... will be helping with contacts
15:34:49 <hhalpin> ... co-chairing with Ahmed.
15:34:56 <hhalpin> ... participated in XG
15:34:59 <mhausenblas> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2009Oct/0009.html
15:35:49 <hhalpin> Nunes: Working in DERI
15:36:02 <hhalpin> ... hetereogenous sources, working on XSPARQL
15:36:11 <hhalpin> ... extending XQuery.
15:36:16 <mhausenblas> s/Nunes/Nuno
15:36:36 <hhalpin> Ashok is on vacation.
15:36:44 <hhalpin> Ivan: dialing in...
15:37:16 <hhalpin> Juan: a Uni. Ph.D. student at University of Austin
15:37:20 <hhalpin> ... was part of XG
15:37:30 <hhalpin> ... creating Ultrawrap, RDB2RDF system
15:37:40 <hhalpin> ... takes advantage of existing infrastructure
15:37:46 <hhalpin> ... want to learn mappings
15:38:01 <hhalpin> ... uses data-mining, linked data for bioinformatics by end of year 
15:38:10 <hhalpin> Michael: Informal meeting at ISWC
15:38:30 <hhalpin> ... First face-to-face officially will be later
15:38:36 <hhalpin> Juan: I'll be at ISWC.
15:38:47 <hhalpin> Seema: From Oracle
15:38:59 <hhalpin> ... located in new hampshire
15:39:04 <hhalpin> ... working in semantic group
15:39:29 <hhalpin> Marcelo:
15:39:56 <hhalpin> Marcelo: Marcelo Arenas, from catholic university of chile
15:40:01 <hhalpin> ... most in database theory
15:40:08 <hhalpin> ... we have a group that works in RDF
15:40:23 <hhalpin> ... have done semantics for SPARQL, adding navigation, dealing with RDFS and OWL
15:40:32 <hhalpin> ... we want to work on this problem.
15:40:59 <hhalpin> ACTION: hhalpin to re-send Marcelo invited expert form
15:41:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-5 - Re-send Marcelo invited expert form [on Harry Halpin - due 2009-10-22].
15:41:40 <hhalpin> Li Ma: formerly of IBM, will be joining the group as Invited Expert.
15:41:47 <hhalpin> ... participated in XG.
15:42:39 <hhalpin> ... worked for more 5 years
15:42:57 <hhalpin> ... was at IBM, now working on integrating databases
15:43:22 <hhalpin> ... have a paper at this year ISWC that describes our mapping approach
15:43:47 <hhalpin> Zakim, next agendum
15:43:47 <Zakim> agendum 2. ""Future Meetings"" taken up [from hhalpin]
15:44:20 <hhalpin> Ahmed: spend a month and a half doing implementation work.
15:44:31 <hhalpin> ... next week is OpenLink and Orri
15:44:41 <hhalpin> ... will have anyone to post the links
15:44:46 <mhausenblas> see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Initial_Round_of_Presentations
15:44:49 <hhalpin> ... just send them to harry to post
15:44:53 <hhalpin> ... a week if not more the presentation
15:45:37 <hhalpin> ... we also have D2R, Metamotix on the queue.
15:45:48 <hhalpin> ... we can still fit them in.
15:45:51 <hhalpin> ... send them in.
15:46:05 <hhalpin> ... give a paragraph of what group has done
15:46:14 <metatomix> Also joined this group is Samir Batla. Batla has been leveraging ST for about 8-9 years in a solutions architect role - having been with Cerebra, Inc, Siderean Software and now Metatomix.
15:46:32 <hhalpin> ... sometime in Nov we will be done with that piece
15:46:41 <hhalpin> ... we need to pin down some of our goals.
15:46:50 <hhalpin> ... listed some of these in the announcment
15:46:53 <hhalpin> ... six items:
15:47:34 <hhalpin> ... we hope to have this by march
15:47:42 <hhalpin> Michael: let's have discussions on the mailing list
15:48:13 <mhausenblas> ... and use the Wiki to collect it
15:49:07 <hhalpin> ... wiki is easier than mailing list
15:49:20 <hhalpin> ... for keeping track of some things.
15:49:42 <hhalpin> Ahmed: How about things we end up not pursuing?
15:49:53 <hhalpin> Michael: We will do a use-case and requirements.
15:50:18 <hhalpin> Ahmed: any proposals for improving?
15:50:24 <hhalpin> Michael: flag certain features
15:50:33 <hhalpin> ... to prioritize
15:50:53 <hhalpin> ACTION: mhausenblas to add material to the Wiki
15:50:53 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - mhausenblas
15:51:20 <hhalpin> Ahmed: Anyone else wants to present?
15:51:27 <hhalpin> ACTION: mhausenb to add material to the Wiki
15:51:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-6 - Add material to the Wiki [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2009-10-22].
15:51:52 <hhalpin> Juan: I'd like to present
15:52:18 <hhalpin> don't worry, I can fix things!
15:52:42 <hhalpin> Juan: Do we want future meetings at this time?
15:52:47 <hhalpin> ... doesn't work for me too well.
15:53:15 <hhalpin> q+
15:53:43 <hhalpin> Ahmed: Hard to make everyone happy
15:54:01 <hhalpin> ... Juan, can you switch schedules?
15:54:14 <hhalpin> ack hhalpin
15:54:55 <hhalpin> Juan: I can lose this time.
15:55:35 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I hope we can keep this time.
15:57:37 <hhalpin> ACTION: hhalpin to send email out to europeans explaining daylight savings time.
15:57:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-7 - Send email out to europeans explaining daylight savings time. [on Harry Halpin - due 2009-10-22].
15:59:25 <hhalpin> Ahmed: let's send e-mails out about the time
15:59:54 <hhalpin> Michael: do we want to say each other's names?
16:00:08 <hhalpin> Ahmed: try to use first name
16:00:12 <hhalpin> Ahmed: I think we are done.
16:00:17 <hhalpin> ... Orri is next week!
16:00:39 <hhalpin> ... thanks everyone, triplify and D2RQ are afterwards.
16:00:46 <hhalpin> ... minutes will be made available.
16:00:50 <Zakim> -marcelo
16:01:00 <hhalpin> ... next meeting we will send tomorrow.
16:01:12 <hhalpin> Ahmed: Next time, to log into IRC beforehand.
16:01:22 <hhalpin> ... will start precisely 5 minutes later.
16:02:02 <hhalpin> bye!
16:02:03 <Zakim> -Ahmed
16:02:06 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
16:02:08 <hhalpin> Meeting Adjourned
16:02:09 <Zakim> - +1.585.919.aakk
16:02:15 <Zakim> -Seema
16:02:16 <marcelo> I lost the phone connection
16:02:18 <Zakim> -Souri
16:02:20 <hhalpin> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:02:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-minutes.html hhalpin
16:02:24 <Zakim> -metatomix
16:02:29 <Zakim> -angela
16:02:30 <Zakim> -whalb
16:02:32 <hhalpin> trackbot, end meeting
16:02:32 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:02:33 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:02:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-minutes.html trackbot
16:02:34 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:02:34 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-actions.rdf :
16:02:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: hhalpin to re-send Marcelo invited expert form [1]
16:02:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-irc#T15-40-59
16:02:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: mhausenblas to add material to the Wiki [2]
16:02:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-irc#T15-50-53
16:02:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: mhausenb to add material to the Wiki [3]
16:02:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-irc#T15-51-27
16:02:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: hhalpin to send email out to europeans explaining daylight savings time. [4]
16:02:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/15-RDB2RDF-irc#T15-57-37
16:02:34 <Zakim> -Joseph_Scheuhammer
16:02:37 <Zakim> -jsequeda
16:02:41 <Zakim> -hhalpin
16:02:49 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.512.484.aaaa, +3539149aabb, Joseph_Scheuhammer, +3539149aacc, mhausenblas, jsequeda, Ahmed, +39.046.188.aadd, +1.603.897.aaee,
16:02:52 <Zakim> ... +043316876aaff, whalb, angela, +1.781.907.aagg, +1.603.897.aahh, +7.791.000.0.aaii, metatomix, Seema, +1.603.897.aajj, Souri, HH, hhalpin, +1.585.919.aakk, marcelo,