IRC log of pling on 2009-10-14
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- 11:57:39 [RRSAgent]
- RRSAgent has joined #pling
- 11:57:39 [RRSAgent]
- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-pling-irc
- 11:57:59 [rigo]
- rrsagent, please set log public
- 11:58:07 [rigo]
- zakim, this will be pling
- 11:58:07 [Zakim]
- ok, rigo; I see P3P_PLING()8:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
- 11:59:11 [renato]
- hi rigo
- 11:59:19 [rigo]
- hi Renato
- 11:59:24 [rigo]
- I will take minutes
- 11:59:32 [renato]
- ok!
- 11:59:33 [rigo]
- scribe: Rigo
- 11:59:39 [rigo]
- scribenick: Rigo
- 11:59:48 [rigo]
- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/Policy/pling/wiki/2009-10-14
- 12:00:48 [renato]
- Doh....my phonecard account has expired!
- 12:01:00 [renato]
- looking for another one...
- 12:01:37 [rigo]
- ok, I'll be there and wait for you
- 12:01:56 [rigo]
- zakim, code?
- 12:01:56 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 75464 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), rigo
- 12:02:30 [Zakim]
- P3P_PLING()8:00AM has now started
- 12:02:37 [Zakim]
- +Rigo
- 12:04:51 [Zakim]
- + +1.617.588.aaaa - is perhaps anthony
- 12:05:15 [rigo]
- zakim, aaaa is Renato
- 12:05:15 [Zakim]
- sorry, rigo, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
- 12:05:53 [rigo]
- zakim, aaaa is Renato
- 12:05:53 [Zakim]
- sorry, rigo, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
- 12:10:06 [renato]
- actions from last meeting: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pling/2009Sep/0003.html
- 12:11:07 [rigo]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-mediaont-10-20090618/
- 12:11:46 [rigo]
- ma:copyright
- 12:12:08 [rigo]
- The copyright statement. Identification of the copyrights holder (DRM is out of scope for MAWG)
- 12:12:12 [mib_h8ej0l]
- mib_h8ej0l has joined #pling
- 12:12:41 [rigo]
- ma:locator
- 12:13:09 [rigo]
- ma:policy A URI with a policy statement applying to the file
- 12:13:58 [rigo]
- RI: more?
- 12:14:21 [rigo]
- RW: that's all we require, application may understand or not the policy language behind the link
- 12:14:46 [rigo]
- RW: that may also be a way to link to creative commons or ODRL statements
- 12:16:13 [rigo]
- Action: Renato to send suggested wording to PLING mailing-list and wait for comments and objections for 4 days, if nothing received send to media annotations WG
- 12:16:43 [rigo]
- ACTION: rigo to send paragraph about policy binding to Ashok --PENDING
- 12:17:48 [rigo]
- RI: Best Practices for Privacy Awareness document was initiated: http://www.w3.org/Policy/pling/wiki/PLINGNOTEBestPracticesForPrivacyAwareness
- 12:18:22 [rigo]
- ACTION: Add Best Practices for Privacy Awareness NOTE to standing Agenda --DONE
- 12:19:04 [rigo]
- ACTION: Ascertain any requirements from HTML5 WG on Licensing --DONE
- 12:19:22 [rigo]
- RW: was overtaken by PSIG considering terms for licensing
- 12:20:05 [rigo]
- RI: Note, no comments or contributions yet
- 12:20:20 [rigo]
- RW: obtrusive should be inobtrusive
- 12:20:35 [rigo]
- RI: how to get a simple policy language going?
- 12:20:41 [rigo]
- ...are we still far away?
- 12:21:08 [rigo]
- RW: seeing rather special things going on
- 12:21:31 [rigo]
- RI: a very simple vocab to express simple rights and access permissions for web content
- 12:21:57 [rigo]
- ...a cut down version of ODRL, with CC and privacy and permissions, access control
- 12:22:38 [rigo]
- RW: task from ISPRA workshop was to find out how to use many policy languages together
- 12:22:45 [rigo]
- ... we are still far away
- 12:23:05 [rigo]
- ...what I see in PrimeLife is rather more development in the special language area
- 12:23:19 [rigo]
- ...seems the opposite is trendy
- 12:23:27 [rigo]
- RI: more specialized languages
- 12:23:35 [rigo]
- RW: we'll see with the workshop
- 12:24:46 [rigo]
- RW: we have consider policy and privacy as a horizontal activity like I18N
- 12:25:29 [rigo]
- ...once we get some idea about convergence, we may come back to a tiny subset microformat (RDF/a or other)
- 12:25:48 [rigo]
- ...binding is the more pressing problem
- 12:25:50 [rigo]
- RI: ok
- 12:29:03 [rigo]
- RW: on PrimeLife please promote http://www.w3.org/2009/policy-ws/cfp.html
- 12:29:17 [rigo]
- RI: need to get a bit more dynamics into PLING
- 12:30:05 [rigo]
- RW: one way is to have more on PLING Note
- 12:31:43 [rigo]
- RW: news on Social Web XG
- 12:32:01 [rigo]
- RI: moved telco to 2am for me, nothing on privacy for the moment
- 12:32:51 [rigo]
- ...capturing sort of vocab table for main Social networks, hope to get some common vocab out
- 12:33:09 [rigo]
- ...meeting at TPAC and probably meeting with ID-card folks
- 12:34:38 [rigo]
- RI: next meeting will be moved 10 November 2009
- 12:35:42 [Zakim]
- -Rigo
- 12:35:43 [Zakim]
- -anthony
- 12:35:44 [Zakim]
- P3P_PLING()8:00AM has ended
- 12:35:45 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Rigo, +1.617.588.aaaa
- 12:36:00 [rigo]
- rrsagent, please draft minutes
- 12:36:00 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-pling-minutes.html rigo
- 12:36:51 [rigo]
- zakim, bye
- 12:36:51 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #pling
- 12:37:00 [rigo]
- rrsagent, bye
- 12:37:00 [RRSAgent]
- I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-pling-actions.rdf :
- 12:37:00 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Renato to send suggested wording to PLING mailing-list and wait for comments and objections for 4 days, if nothing received send to media annotations WG [1]
- 12:37:00 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-pling-irc#T12-16-13
- 12:37:00 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: rigo to send paragraph about policy binding to Ashok --PENDING [2]
- 12:37:00 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-pling-irc#T12-16-43
- 12:37:00 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Add Best Practices for Privacy Awareness NOTE to standing Agenda --DONE [3]
- 12:37:00 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-pling-irc#T12-18-22
- 12:37:00 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Ascertain any requirements from HTML5 WG on Licensing --DONE [4]
- 12:37:00 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/14-pling-irc#T12-19-04