IRC log of MW4D on 2009-10-05

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11:32:37 [steph]
zakim, this will be mw'd
11:32:37 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, steph
11:32:43 [steph]
zakim, this will be mw4d
11:32:43 [Zakim]
ok, steph; I see UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 28 minutes
11:32:57 [steph]
Meeting:MW4D bi-monthly meeting
11:33:32 [steph]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009Oct/0009.html
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Chair: Stephane
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Present: Stephane
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11:58:18 [steph]
zakim, code ?
11:58:18 [Zakim]
the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
11:58:38 [Zakim]
UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
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+steph
11:58:52 [steph]
Hi Raphael
11:59:08 [Zakim]
-steph
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UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
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Attendees were steph
11:59:20 [raphael]
Salut Steph
11:59:27 [steph]
zakim, who is here ?
11:59:27 [Zakim]
apparently UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended, steph
11:59:29 [Zakim]
On IRC I see raphael, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph
11:59:32 [raphael]
I connect via phone, 1mn
11:59:35 [steph]
ok
12:00:02 [Zakim]
UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
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+steph
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+ +41.22.730.aaaa
12:00:49 [steph]
zakim, aaaa is Raphael
12:00:49 [Zakim]
+Raphael; got it
12:00:59 [steph]
present+Raphael
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+ +91.11.41.29.aabb
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12:07:10 [steph]
zakim, aabb is Arun
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+Arun; got it
12:07:20 [steph]
Present+Arun
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+ +01312799aacc
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zakim, aacc is renjish
12:07:50 [Zakim]
+renjish; got it
12:07:55 [steph]
Present+Renjish
12:11:07 [steph]
steph: process: this week final version by wed or thurs
12:11:20 [steph]
the group agree, then move to W3C like document proof reading and publication
12:11:39 [steph]
topic: Acknowledgement section
12:13:19 [raphael]
q+
12:13:27 [steph]
ack raphael
12:14:37 [ArunKumar]
q+
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q-
12:17:10 [ArunKumar]
q+
12:17:42 [ArunKumar]
q-
12:19:35 [steph]
REsolution: include in the acknowledgment the list of people who actively participated in the group life and doc develoment in the last Six month
12:20:11 [steph]
ACTION: draft the list and propose it ot the mailing-list
12:20:20 [steph]
ACTION: stephane to draft the list and propose it ot the mailing-list
12:20:27 [ArunKumar]
q+
12:20:28 [steph]
rrsagent, drop action 1
12:20:42 [steph]
ack arunkumar
12:24:02 [ArunKumar]
q+
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q-
12:25:00 [steph]
resolution: change acknowledgement to contributors
12:25:07 [raphael]
+1
12:25:16 [steph]
action: steph to rename the acknowledgement section to contributors
12:25:44 [steph]
Topic: integrating health section
12:26:31 [raphael]
I don't think it makes a lot of sense, for the points you made and were made in previous sessions
12:27:08 [steph]
renjish: discussed one year ago, should not integrate this section in this last phase
12:27:18 [steph]
no spcific section to fot
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s/fot/fit/
12:27:43 [steph]
Resolution: no integration in this version of the document of a section on health
12:28:02 [steph]
Topic: mentionning a R&D direction to integrate better SMS and the Web
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(suggested by renjish)
12:31:33 [ArunKumar]
q+
12:32:11 [steph]
ack arumkumar
12:32:19 [Renjish]
SMS forum was working on the encoding aspect http://www.smsforum.net/
12:32:27 [steph]
arun: might not be the future
12:32:50 [steph]
that's why perhaps there is no investment
12:33:53 [steph]
arun: is it worthwile to do it now ?
12:34:54 [raphael]
q+
12:35:05 [steph]
ack arunkumar
12:35:53 [steph]
q+
12:35:58 [ArunKumar]
q+
12:36:22 [steph]
ack raphael
12:37:16 [steph]
raphael: in lots countries, underusage of data service
12:37:32 [steph]
gprs cheaper than sms
12:37:38 [ArunKumar]
I agree with Raphael ... data and GPRS would soon overtake SMS in the text domain
12:38:00 [ArunKumar]
So, it is not a question of voice vs SMS but is SMS the right mode for text modality
12:38:39 [raphael]
yes indeed
12:39:26 [raphael]
maybe also some level of icons
12:40:02 [raphael]
q+
12:40:11 [steph]
ack steph
12:41:30 [ArunKumar]
q-
12:42:53 [raphael]
q-
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q+
12:44:20 [raphael]
+1
12:45:34 [ArunKumar]
Yes mentioning the concern is fine
12:45:38 [ArunKumar]
q-
12:48:45 [steph]
Topic: comments from K. Verclas around SMS centered roadmap
12:51:33 [Renjish]
q+
12:52:35 [steph]
ack renjish
12:54:04 [raphael]
q+
12:54:26 [ArunKumar]
q+
12:56:33 [steph]
rrsagent, make log public
13:01:41 [Renjish]
agreed and that's why it's not the technology itself but other factors that drive technology choice...
13:03:03 [ArunKumar]
q-
13:03:09 [raphael]
q-
13:04:28 [raphael]
For the record, I say that we should mention that data applications are under used and under created, consireing the comparative advantage, cost-wise (GPRS<<SMS)
13:06:20 [raphael]
ok with your ccl, Steph
13:06:25 [Renjish]
something's missing.. else the market forces would have tilted in favour of GPRS?
13:06:51 [raphael]
"market forces" are also telecom op driven
13:08:23 [Renjish]
so monopolistic...
13:08:43 [raphael]
ohh yes
13:11:01 [raphael]
on the good side, it allowed the telco explosion in dev. ctries
13:11:03 [Renjish]
It's fine with me
13:11:10 [ArunKumar]
26th is fine with me
13:11:22 [Renjish]
Raphael, can we then say that ignorance is the issue?
13:11:28 [raphael]
thanks
13:11:35 [Zakim]
-steph
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-Arun
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-Raphael
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-renjish
13:11:38 [Zakim]
UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
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Attendees were steph, +41.22.730.aaaa, Raphael, +91.11.41.29.aabb, Arun, +01312799aacc, renjish
13:11:44 [steph]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/05-MW4D-minutes.html steph
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