IRC log of MW4D on 2009-10-05
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/10/05-MW4D-irc
- 11:32:37 [steph]
- zakim, this will be mw'd
- 11:32:37 [Zakim]
- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, steph
- 11:32:43 [steph]
- zakim, this will be mw4d
- 11:32:43 [Zakim]
- ok, steph; I see UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 28 minutes
- 11:32:57 [steph]
- Meeting:MW4D bi-monthly meeting
- 11:33:32 [steph]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009Oct/0009.html
- 11:36:19 [steph]
- Chair: Stephane
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- Present: Stephane
- 11:43:25 [raphael]
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- 11:58:18 [steph]
- zakim, code ?
- 11:58:18 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
- 11:58:38 [Zakim]
- UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
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- +steph
- 11:58:52 [steph]
- Hi Raphael
- 11:59:08 [Zakim]
- -steph
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- UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
- 11:59:09 [Zakim]
- Attendees were steph
- 11:59:20 [raphael]
- Salut Steph
- 11:59:27 [steph]
- zakim, who is here ?
- 11:59:27 [Zakim]
- apparently UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended, steph
- 11:59:29 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see raphael, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph
- 11:59:32 [raphael]
- I connect via phone, 1mn
- 11:59:35 [steph]
- ok
- 12:00:02 [Zakim]
- UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
- 12:00:09 [Zakim]
- +steph
- 12:00:28 [Zakim]
- + +41.22.730.aaaa
- 12:00:49 [steph]
- zakim, aaaa is Raphael
- 12:00:49 [Zakim]
- +Raphael; got it
- 12:00:59 [steph]
- present+Raphael
- 12:06:19 [Renjish]
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- + +91.11.41.29.aabb
- 12:07:06 [ArunKumar]
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- 12:07:10 [steph]
- zakim, aabb is Arun
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- +Arun; got it
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- Present+Arun
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- + +01312799aacc
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- zakim, aacc is renjish
- 12:07:50 [Zakim]
- +renjish; got it
- 12:07:55 [steph]
- Present+Renjish
- 12:11:07 [steph]
- steph: process: this week final version by wed or thurs
- 12:11:20 [steph]
- the group agree, then move to W3C like document proof reading and publication
- 12:11:39 [steph]
- topic: Acknowledgement section
- 12:13:19 [raphael]
- q+
- 12:13:27 [steph]
- ack raphael
- 12:14:37 [ArunKumar]
- q+
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- q-
- 12:17:10 [ArunKumar]
- q+
- 12:17:42 [ArunKumar]
- q-
- 12:19:35 [steph]
- REsolution: include in the acknowledgment the list of people who actively participated in the group life and doc develoment in the last Six month
- 12:20:11 [steph]
- ACTION: draft the list and propose it ot the mailing-list
- 12:20:20 [steph]
- ACTION: stephane to draft the list and propose it ot the mailing-list
- 12:20:27 [ArunKumar]
- q+
- 12:20:28 [steph]
- rrsagent, drop action 1
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- ack arunkumar
- 12:24:02 [ArunKumar]
- q+
- 12:24:53 [ArunKumar]
- q-
- 12:25:00 [steph]
- resolution: change acknowledgement to contributors
- 12:25:07 [raphael]
- +1
- 12:25:16 [steph]
- action: steph to rename the acknowledgement section to contributors
- 12:25:44 [steph]
- Topic: integrating health section
- 12:26:31 [raphael]
- I don't think it makes a lot of sense, for the points you made and were made in previous sessions
- 12:27:08 [steph]
- renjish: discussed one year ago, should not integrate this section in this last phase
- 12:27:18 [steph]
- no spcific section to fot
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- s/fot/fit/
- 12:27:43 [steph]
- Resolution: no integration in this version of the document of a section on health
- 12:28:02 [steph]
- Topic: mentionning a R&D direction to integrate better SMS and the Web
- 12:28:02 [steph]
- (suggested by renjish)
- 12:31:33 [ArunKumar]
- q+
- 12:32:11 [steph]
- ack arumkumar
- 12:32:19 [Renjish]
- SMS forum was working on the encoding aspect http://www.smsforum.net/
- 12:32:27 [steph]
- arun: might not be the future
- 12:32:50 [steph]
- that's why perhaps there is no investment
- 12:33:53 [steph]
- arun: is it worthwile to do it now ?
- 12:34:54 [raphael]
- q+
- 12:35:05 [steph]
- ack arunkumar
- 12:35:53 [steph]
- q+
- 12:35:58 [ArunKumar]
- q+
- 12:36:22 [steph]
- ack raphael
- 12:37:16 [steph]
- raphael: in lots countries, underusage of data service
- 12:37:32 [steph]
- gprs cheaper than sms
- 12:37:38 [ArunKumar]
- I agree with Raphael ... data and GPRS would soon overtake SMS in the text domain
- 12:38:00 [ArunKumar]
- So, it is not a question of voice vs SMS but is SMS the right mode for text modality
- 12:38:39 [raphael]
- yes indeed
- 12:39:26 [raphael]
- maybe also some level of icons
- 12:40:02 [raphael]
- q+
- 12:40:11 [steph]
- ack steph
- 12:41:30 [ArunKumar]
- q-
- 12:42:53 [raphael]
- q-
- 12:44:17 [ArunKumar]
- q+
- 12:44:20 [raphael]
- +1
- 12:45:34 [ArunKumar]
- Yes mentioning the concern is fine
- 12:45:38 [ArunKumar]
- q-
- 12:48:45 [steph]
- Topic: comments from K. Verclas around SMS centered roadmap
- 12:51:33 [Renjish]
- q+
- 12:52:35 [steph]
- ack renjish
- 12:54:04 [raphael]
- q+
- 12:54:26 [ArunKumar]
- q+
- 12:56:33 [steph]
- rrsagent, make log public
- 13:01:41 [Renjish]
- agreed and that's why it's not the technology itself but other factors that drive technology choice...
- 13:03:03 [ArunKumar]
- q-
- 13:03:09 [raphael]
- q-
- 13:04:28 [raphael]
- For the record, I say that we should mention that data applications are under used and under created, consireing the comparative advantage, cost-wise (GPRS<<SMS)
- 13:06:20 [raphael]
- ok with your ccl, Steph
- 13:06:25 [Renjish]
- something's missing.. else the market forces would have tilted in favour of GPRS?
- 13:06:51 [raphael]
- "market forces" are also telecom op driven
- 13:08:23 [Renjish]
- so monopolistic...
- 13:08:43 [raphael]
- ohh yes
- 13:11:01 [raphael]
- on the good side, it allowed the telco explosion in dev. ctries
- 13:11:03 [Renjish]
- It's fine with me
- 13:11:10 [ArunKumar]
- 26th is fine with me
- 13:11:22 [Renjish]
- Raphael, can we then say that ignorance is the issue?
- 13:11:28 [raphael]
- thanks
- 13:11:35 [Zakim]
- -steph
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- -Arun
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- -Raphael
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- -renjish
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- UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were steph, +41.22.730.aaaa, Raphael, +91.11.41.29.aabb, Arun, +01312799aacc, renjish
- 13:11:44 [steph]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/05-MW4D-minutes.html steph
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