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14:59:59 <Andi> zakim, this will be aapi
15:00:00 <Zakim> ok, Andi; I see WAI_PFWG(ARIA)11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
15:00:12 <Andi> rrsagent, make logs public
15:00:29 <Andi> Scribe: Andi
15:00:40 <Andi> Meeting: AAPI 
15:00:47 <Andi> Chair: Cynthia
15:01:18 <davidb> hi Andi 
15:04:36 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(ARIA)11:00AM has now started
15:04:44 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow_Weaver
15:05:36 <davidb> 2274?
15:05:53 <Zakim> +[Mozilla]
15:06:18 <davidb> Zakim, Mozilla is David_Bolter
15:06:18 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
15:06:41 <Zakim> +Cooper
15:07:09 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
15:10:58 <Andi> topic: schedule
15:11:00 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/2009/09/22-aapi-minutes.html
15:11:21 <Andi> look at list of things we wanted to get into the WD on November 17th
15:16:00 <Andi> Must have the role mapping table and state/property mapping table as complete as possible for the next draft
15:16:17 <Andi> Review these tables at UAI TF meeting in two weeks
15:16:59 <Andi> Must review Error Handling section for correctness
15:17:39 <Andi> Should get the error handling information integrated into the appropriate sections of the UAIG
15:21:54 <Andi> must fill out Actions table (Cynthia) and event table on state/property chnages (David)
15:23:13 <Andi> Should do CSS selectors and table on properties that cause other actions to be available
15:23:46 <Andi> topic: action items
15:24:12 <Andi> CS sent note on action/event table but hasn't gotten response
15:24:24 <Andi> SP was to review the document and give feedback - no word from SP and he's not here today
15:24:49 <Andi> DB: 7182 - nothing yet
15:25:36 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/
15:28:00 <davidb> we expose container-atomic object attribute in FF
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15:38:23 <Andi> topic: Section 5
15:38:50 <Andi> IDREF/IDREFS - might be more appropriate in 3.6.3 Relations section 
15:39:26 <Andi> ID also used with aria-activedescendent
15:42:16 <Andi> aria-activedescendent expects only one IDREF
15:42:34 <Andi> relations can have multiple IDREFS
15:43:58 <Andi> bug - Andi - look through WAI-ARIA spec, find all the properties that have IDREFs, determine if 3.6.3 Relations is the right place to discuss these.
15:45:14 <Andi> Value type: decimal
15:45:52 <Andi> bug - Cynthia - find out what IE does for Value type: Decimal and Integer
15:49:02 <Andi> UA Validation - is a MAY
15:49:30 <Andi> maybe this section goes in section 4 Special Document Handling
15:52:37 <Andi> Roles
15:52:56 <Andi> All of these fit in with discussion at the beginning of 3.4 Role Mapping
15:53:53 <Andi> When an author changes a role dynamically, it's considered incorrect practice but it does happen so UA's are handling it
15:54:26 <Andi> CS: adding aria role seems reasonable but changing aria role should not be allowed
15:55:06 <davidb> DB: yeah
15:56:25 <Andi>  http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/98
15:56:44 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/99
15:57:16 <Andi> bug - add for these issues
15:57:23 <MichaelC> Tracker issues on UAI: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
15:58:00 <Andi> CS: if not requiring UA to do validation, then just pass it through and it's wrong
15:58:14 <Andi> CS: don't think we should be asking browser to make decisions about nesting structure
15:58:41 <Andi> CS: validator should catch, not the browser
15:59:01 <Andi> DB: IA2 and ATK have special interfaces (i.e. AccessibleTable)
15:59:46 <Andi> browser shouldn't do anything special to handle
16:01:41 <Andi> States and Properties should be integrated into 3.5 State/Property Mapping section
16:02:02 <Andi> Propogating errors to ATs should go with validation section
16:02:14 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:02:16 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
16:02:17 <Zakim> -David_Bolter
16:02:17 <Zakim> -Cooper
16:02:19 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(ARIA)11:00AM has ended
16:02:19 <Andi> zakim, bye
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16:02:20 <Zakim> Attendees were Andi_Snow_Weaver, David_Bolter, Cooper, Cynthia_Shelly
16:02:25 <Andi> rrsagent, make minutes
16:02:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/29-aapi-minutes.html Andi
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