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13:57:52 <johnM> zakim, this will be term
13:57:52 <Zakim> ok, johnM; I see SW_HCLS(Term)10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
13:58:01 <ericP> i johnM 
13:59:18 <johnM> hi eric
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14:02:02 <Zakim> +John_Madden
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14:02:15 <ericP> can't join you today -- kayaking. will read back here later
14:03:28 <johnM> +1.847.832.aaaa is nalbarr
14:03:45 <johnM> zakim, +1.847.832.aaaa is nalbarr
14:03:45 <Zakim> +nalbarr; got it
14:04:09 <johnM> Hi Andrew
14:04:16 <agibson> Hi John
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14:04:41 <johnM> Hey eric, are you afloat somewhere on some Class III rapids?
14:06:25 <Zakim> + +03168163aabb
14:06:37 <johnM> Narciso, can you throw up a Gotomeeting so we can look at each others' TBC screens
14:07:13 <Zakim> +??P3
14:07:39 <nalbarr> i can scribe... if people want
14:08:14 <johnM> zakim, +03168163aabb is agibson
14:08:14 <Zakim> +agibson; got it
14:08:31 <nalbarr> [johnm] intro and agenda
14:09:00 <johnM> zakim, +??P3 is mscottm
14:09:00 <Zakim> sorry, johnM, I do not recognize a party named '+??P3'
14:09:16 <johnM> zakim, ??P3 is mscottm
14:09:16 <Zakim> +mscottm; got it
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14:12:22 <nalbarr> [mscottm].  revisit aida and other previous work
14:13:56 <nalbarr> ... new servers and environment coming (alternative to amazon cloud options)
14:16:20 <nalbarr> ... 2 areas to look at: 1) snomed ct queries (broken?), 2) advancing go / skos efforts
14:18:15 <nalbarr> [agibson] ... update on go / skos efforts
14:19:38 <nalbarr> ... also meta data ... rdf store integration
14:20:27 <nalbarr> ... add foaf and knowledge provenance support...
14:21:45 <nalbarr> ... query gene ontology with historical context / versioning
14:23:41 <nalbarr> [mscottm] belgium parties can do ontological queries
14:24:46 <nalbarr> ... ncbo moving to rdf store... but bio portal uses flat file... and needs to some migration or rework
14:25:55 <nalbarr> ... iao (info architecture ontology)...
14:26:25 <nalbarr> ... info artifact ontology
14:27:13 <nalbarr> ... larry hunter involved
14:27:33 <nalbarr> [jmadden] ... also barry smith, alan ruttenberg
14:28:56 <johnM> http://code.google.com/p/information-artifact-ontology
14:29:05 <johnM> http://code.google.com/p/information-artifact-ontology
14:29:10 <mscottm> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1892965&group_id=76834&atid=947684
14:30:42 <johnM> http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/iao/ontology-metadata.owl
14:31:25 <johnM> here it is: 	http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/iao.owl
14:33:07 <nalbarr> [mscottm] importance of deferring judgment call by adding as much knowledge provenance / evidence and avoid black/white refute/reject
14:34:30 <nalbarr> [agibson] more on bioportal
14:35:05 <nalbarr> ... queries exposed by web services; putting rdf store is not seamless
14:36:26 <nalbarr> ... migrations to context specific views (using skos)... but expose owl, other formats
14:37:19 <nalbarr> ... agibson protege conference
14:44:16 <nalbarr> [mscottm,jmadden] proposing a time change to thurs slot same time to gain more momentum
14:44:53 <johnM> ERICP::: PLEASE READ THIS:::::: we would like to change from Friday 10 am Eastern to Thursday 10 am Eastern, Can you help us?
14:45:52 <johnM> ERICP:::::Tuesday would also work
14:46:37 <johnM>     ERICP::::::delete that, Tuesday doesn't work
14:47:22 <nalbarr> [mscottm] gather sparql feature requests
14:47:32 <mscottm> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-sparql-features-20090702/#Property_paths
14:48:50 <nalbarr> ... 1) update (only supported in virtuoso)
14:49:01 <nalbarr> ... 2) property paths (or chaining)
14:49:24 <nalbarr> #2) require running pellet (pre-classify)...
14:49:35 <nalbarr> #2) can emulate reasoning 
14:52:06 <mscottm> thanks for scribing Narciso!
14:52:11 <nalbarr> np...
14:55:31 <nalbarr> can someone help with the magic to create the minutes?
14:55:37 <nalbarr> i always forgot the commmands
14:56:32 <nalbarr> [agibson] propose to capture knowledge in research paper
14:59:06 <nalbarr> [jmadden] has some snomed ct data in sql server?  and want to d2rq
14:59:35 <nalbarr> [mscottm] use eric p's rdf store with REST based interface
15:00:11 <mscottm> https://wiki.nbic.nl/index.php/BioWiseInformationManagement2009
15:00:33 <mscottm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWObjects
15:01:09 <nalbarr> ... helen chen/eric p... good security/role based permission, etc.
15:02:00 <nalbarr> [jmadden] it is raj dash's sql server
15:03:18 <mscottm> https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/swobjects/index.php?title=Main_Page
15:03:48 <Zakim> -nalbarr
15:03:50 <Zakim> -John_Madden
15:04:08 <Zakim> -agibson
15:04:33 <mscottm> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:04:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/18-hcls2-minutes.html mscottm
15:04:42 <mscottm> RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
15:04:52 <Zakim> -mscottm
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15:04:55 <Zakim> Attendees were John_Madden, nalbarr, agibson, mscottm
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