14:54:47 RRSAgent has joined #mwts 14:54:47 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/09/15-mwts-irc 14:54:49 RRSAgent, make logs public 14:54:49 Zakim has joined #mwts 14:54:51 Zakim, this will be MWI_TS 14:54:51 ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes 14:54:52 Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference 14:54:52 Date: 15 September 2009 14:56:45 MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started 14:56:51 +??P7 14:58:14 zakim, ??P7 is Kai 14:58:14 +Kai; got it 15:01:31 zakim, code? 15:01:31 the conference code is 8794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom 15:01:37 +wilhelm 15:02:15 +dom 15:02:32 +??P58 15:02:39 zakim, ??P58 is dmitri 15:02:40 +dmitri; got it 15:03:03 Topic: Widgets testing 15:03:14 -> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets/tests/ Widgets P&C Test doc 15:03:18 dmitris has joined #mwts 15:03:23 -> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TestWorkshop2009 Upcoming test creation event 15:03:38 Kai: we've been preparing for the event next week 15:03:45 ... building some scripts that should help coordinate the event 15:03:55 ... I hope to get much further together on the P&C tests 15:04:31 Wilhelm: Hari, one of my testers, will be there; he's developed a bunch of tests and will see what can be shared 15:04:52 Kai: would be great if he could bring along a version of Opera that somewhat implements the W3C spec version 15:04:52 +Carmelo 15:05:08 Wilhelm: will see what can be done on that 15:05:33 ACTION: Wilhelm to check if Hari can bring more up-to-date version of Opera core for widget testing events 15:05:33 Created ACTION-78 - Check if Hari can bring more up-to-date version of Opera core for widget testing events [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-09-22]. 15:05:37 ACTION-76? 15:05:37 ACTION-76 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/tests/ -- due 2009-09-15 -- PENDINGREVIEW 15:05:37 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/76 15:05:42 close ACTION-76 15:05:42 ACTION-76 Review http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/tests/ closed 15:06:12 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Sep/0003.html Dom's comments 15:06:12 Carmelo has joined #mwts 15:06:17 ACTION-52? 15:06:17 ACTION-52 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to draft a blog post on SPARTAN -- due 2009-05-26 -- OPEN 15:06:17 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/52 15:06:27 Wilhelm: correcting last typos, will publish tomorrow 15:06:59 Kai: I've been working on synchronizing the test plan with the list of existing tests 15:07:21 Dom: I'm happy to help 15:08:01 -> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets/tests/test-suite.xml list of tests in XML format 15:08:11 wilhelm: http://dabase.com/blog/Contribute_Widget_tests/ 15:08:32 s/wilhelm:/wilhelm,/ 15:08:38 Topic: WCTMB2 15:08:44 ACTION-74? 15:08:44 ACTION-74 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to propose an API for the tests in WCTMB2 -- due 2009-08-11 -- OPEN 15:08:44 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/74 15:08:54 Wilhelm: wrote a very simple test harness 15:09:03 ... a bit of duplicate work with Kai apparently - will sort it out 15:09:08 close ACTIOn-74 15:09:08 ACTION-74 Propose an API for the tests in WCTMB2 closed 15:09:16 -> http://people.opera.com/wilhelmja/wctmb2/ Wilhelm's simple test runner 15:09:25 ACTION-73? 15:09:25 ACTION-73 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to create test cases for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-08-11 -- OPEN 15:09:25 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/73 15:09:27 ACTION-72? 15:09:27 ACTION-72 -- Kai Hendry to propose appcache and audio test -- due 2009-08-11 -- OPEN 15:09:27 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/72 15:09:42 Kai: I've written up an AppCache test but I haven't verified it yet 15:09:49 ... it seems to trigger some strange bugs in Firefox 15:10:14 ... For the audio test - didn't remember volunteering for this; I'm not sure how to do that 15:10:21 Wilhelm: check the Javascript Audio object 15:10:39 Kai: I've been lacking time - will look at it later 15:10:52 ACTION-75? 15:10:52 ACTION-75 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to propose tests for WCTMB2 -- due 2009-09-15 -- OPEN 15:10:52 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/75 15:11:44 -> http://wctmb2.webvm.net/ Kai's proposal for WCTMB2 harness 15:12:14 Wilhelm: in the end, all it will need to do is return a boolean 15:12:28 Dom: ok, so no score, just binary 15:12:45 All sorry for missing last weeks call. Got confused with US Holliday and thought it was Monday 15:12:45 ... will propose something before next call then 15:12:51 Topic: OMA 15:12:54 ACTION-21? 15:12:54 ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN 15:12:54 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21 15:12:57 ACTIOn-77? 15:12:57 ACTION-77 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review new XHTML MP test suite from oma -- due 2009-09-15 -- OPEN 15:12:57 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/77 15:13:18 Topic: Misc announcements 15:14:02 -> http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2009/09/testing_mobile_2.html PPK's story on testing mobile 15:14:28 -> http://www.browserscope.org/ BrowserScope 15:15:32 -dom 15:15:34 -> www.browsertests.org BrowsersTests 15:16:32 +dom 15:17:40 Kai: running the Webkit layout tests on different browsers 15:18:25 ... the HTML5 reference tests from Hixie and Philipp Taylor are not there 15:18:30 Dom: ongoing project 15:18:37 Topic: Next meeting 15:18:52 -dmitri 15:18:53 -Carmelo 15:19:00 RESOLVED: next call on September 29 15:19:03 -dom 15:19:10 Zakim, list attendees 15:19:10 As of this point the attendees have been Kai, wilhelm, dom, dmitri, Carmelo 15:19:12 -Kai 15:19:16 RRSAgent, draft minutes 15:19:16 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/15-mwts-minutes.html dom 15:19:16 -wilhelm 15:19:17 MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended 15:19:18 Attendees were Kai, wilhelm, dom, dmitri, Carmelo 15:19:41 wilhelm: http://git.webvm.net/?p=wctmb2 is the source 15:19:46 s/ ->/ ->/g 15:19:48 RRSAgent, draft minutes 15:19:48 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/15-mwts-minutes.html dom 15:20:33 hendry: Thanks. 15:20:53 so there is async testing functionality 15:20:56 timeouts 15:21:21 http://git.webvm.net/?p=wctmb2;a=blob;f=runner.js is the beef 15:22:35 Hm. It might be a bit overkill for our rather simple use case. But it does things mine doesn't - like returning details about how the testing goes. 15:22:58 yes, that's useful where you don't have firebug 15:23:05 and that's a lot of places on mobile 15:24:14 Yes. How about I copy out the relevant bits from this test runner and put it into mine? Then we'd get the functionality we want without having to use all 300 lines of code. 15:24:25 agreed 15:24:32 there is some fluff in runner.js 15:24:56 e.g. chooseSuites 15:24:59 Very well. Then I'll do that. 15:25:26 cool 17:32:54 Zakim has left #mwts