13:00:36 RRSAgent has joined #wam 13:00:36 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/09/10-wam-irc 13:00:43 + +358.503.85aaaa 13:00:45 ScribeNick: ArtB 13:00:48 Chair: Art 13:00:52 Scribe: Art 13:00:53 Zakim, aaaa is JereK 13:00:53 +JereK; got it 13:00:59 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/1019.html 13:01:01 + +47.66.99.aabb 13:01:06 zakim, aabb is me 13:01:06 +arve; got it 13:01:06 Meeting: Widgets Voice Conference 13:01:12 Date: 10 September 2009 13:01:20 Regrets: Robin 13:01:38 + +1.479.524.aacc 13:01:53 zakim, +1.479.524.aacc is I 13:01:53 +Marcos; got it 13:01:56 Present: Art, Jere, Arve, Marcos 13:05:20 Topic: Review and tweak agenda 13:05:28 AB: the agenda was posted on September 9 ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/1019.html ). Any change requests? 13:05:47 [ None ] 13:05:52 Topic: Announcements 13:05:59 AB: Reminders on upcoming deadlines: 1) Sep 14 is deadline to register for Widgets Testing event ( http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/TestWorkshop2009 ); 2) Sep 15 comment deadline for APIs and Events LCWD; 3) Sep 20 comment deadline for WARP LCWD 13:06:47 AB: Does anyone have any other short announcements? 13:06:53 [ None ] 13:07:01 Topic: P&C spec: IRI/URI normalization 13:07:08 AB: I haven't seen a response from the I18N Core WG regarding Marcin's August 14 email to them ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/0644.html ). On Sept 4 I asked Addison and Richard for an update ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2009Sep/0029.html ) and I haven't received a reply. 13:07:24 AB: Marcos and Marcin - you two have been exchanging emails on this subject. What's the status? 13:07:56 MC: I think the status is we don't need to do anything 13:08:07 ... we treat the strings as opaque 13:08:23 ... I don't think the P+C spec needs to change 13:08:57 ... we do NOT need to normalize the strings 13:08:57 +??P11 13:09:10 Present+ Frederick 13:09:23 AB: thanks for the update Marcos 13:09:36 ... without Marcin here today, I think we should stop discussion on this topic 13:10:04 ... we will wait for Marcin to respond to MC's latest email 13:10:25 abraun has joined #wam 13:10:28 MC: we can followup on line if need be 13:10:40 Topic: widget Interface (fka A&E) spec: 13:10:50 AB: comments for the 18-Aug-2009 A&E LCWD ( http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-widgets-apis-20090818/ ) are due September 15. The comment tracking document is ( http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD-widgets-apis-20090818/ ). 13:11:08 AB: is there something to discuss today? 13:11:24 Zakim, mute me 13:11:24 arve should now be muted 13:11:32 MC: thanks Art for the comments; I'll address them as soon as I can 13:11:44 AB: those are my comments 13:12:11 AB: anything else on Widget Interface? 13:12:14 [ No ] 13:12:22 zakim, unmute me 13:12:22 arve should no longer be muted 13:12:23 Topic: WARP Spec: Last Call 13:12:29 AB: comments for the 4-Aug-2009 WARP LCWD ( http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-widgets-access-20090804/ ) are due September 20. The comment tracking document is ( http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD-widgets-access-20090804/ ). 13:12:40 AB: Marcin's August 27 comments ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/0844.html ) resulted in some exchanges from Marcos. 13:13:02 AB: if I understand this thread correctly, Marcin wants to eliminate the element and modify the element to take on some of the semantics that is currently defined in the WARP spec. Is this correct? 13:13:24 MC: yes, that is correct 13:13:28 fh has joined #wam 13:13:31 AB: if we were to accept this proposal, it would result in the P&C Candidate needing to go back to WD, right? 13:14:13 MC: no, I don't think that is true 13:14:20 zakim, ??P11 is fjh 13:14:20 +fjh; got it 13:14:28 q+ 13:14:31 ... he doesn't propose any changes to 13:14:46 AB: I thought he proposed a new attribute for ? 13:14:51 MC: no, I don't think so 13:15:05 ... I just don't agree with the proposal 13:15:24 AB: yes, that came through on the email exchange 13:15:35 Arve: I also do not agree with the proposal 13:15:54 FH: I also agree; I think and are orthogonal i.e. have different meanings 13:16:21 +Josh_Soref 13:16:30 AB: since Marcin isn't here let's stop discussion now and continue on the public-webapps mail list 13:16:35 Present+ Josh 13:17:14 Topic: URI Scheme spec 13:17:24 AB: right before our September 3 call, Marcos submitted comments about the URI Scheme spec ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009JulSep/0963.html ). The consensus at that call was to delay the LCWD publication until Robin had addressed MC's comments ( http://www.w3.org/2009/09/03-wam-minutes.html#item09 ). 13:17:43 AB: Robin told me today he has not yet addressed MC's comments but will do soon. We will not discuss "is this spec ready for Last Call" until we have a chance to review a version of the spec that reflects MC's comments. 13:18:11 AB: any feedback or concerns? 13:18:13 [ No ] 13:18:23 Topic: View Modes Media Feature spec 13:18:31 AB: Marcin has now split the spec into two parts: View Modes Media Features ( http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vm/vm-mediafeature.src.html ) and View Modes Interfaces ( http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vm/vm-interfaces.src.html ). Thanks Marcin! 13:18:58 AB: I think the priority is to publish a First Public WD of the View Modes Media Feature spec. Marcin, what needs to be done before we are ready for the FPWD of the VMMF spec? 13:19:27 AB: given Marcin, isn't here we won't have that discussion today 13:19:45 ACTION: marcin create a ToDo list for the FPWD of the View Modes Media Feature spec 13:19:45 Created ACTION-405 - Create a ToDo list for the FPWD of the View Modes Media Feature spec [on Marcin Hanclik - due 2009-09-17]. 13:20:03 AB: anything else on this spec for today? 13:20:05 [ No ] 13:20:13 Topic: AOB 13:20:18 AB: I don't have anything; does anyone? 13:20:26 [ No ] 13:20:27 AB: next VC will be September 17; this meeting is adjourned 13:20:43 -Josh_Soref 13:20:44 -fjh 13:20:44 -Marcos 13:20:46 RRSAgent, make log public 13:20:47 -arve 13:20:51 arve has left #wam 13:20:53 RRSAgent, make minutes 13:20:53 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/10-wam-minutes.html ArtB 13:21:02 -Art_Barstow 13:21:10 Artb, I submitted about 100 tests 13:21:14 I forgot to mention 13:21:21 -JereK 13:21:22 IA_WebApps(Widgets)9:00AM has ended 13:21:24 Attendees were Art_Barstow, +358.503.85aaaa, JereK, +47.66.99.aabb, arve, Marcos, fjh, Josh_Soref 13:21:32 http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/tests/test-cases/ 13:21:46 JereK has left #wam 13:21:46 They are not verified 13:21:56 and contain some bugs 13:22:06 but it's a good star 13:23:11 zakim, bye 13:23:11 Zakim has left #wam 13:23:21 RRSAgent, bye 13:23:21 I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/10-wam-actions.rdf : 13:23:21 ACTION: marcin create a ToDo list for the FPWD of the View Modes Media Feature spec [1] 13:23:21 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/10-wam-irc#T13-19-45