IRC log of webcgm on 2009-08-24

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Zakim, this is WebCGM
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ok, stuart; that matches GA_WebCGM(F2F)9:00AM
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scribe: stuart
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Zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see Dave
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On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, Rob, trackbot
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+ +1.303.252.aaaa
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+ +1.734.352.aabb
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Meeting: WebCGM nerd conference - Ann Arbor
13:51:15 [lofton]
zakim, +1.734.352.aabb is AnnArborF2F
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+AnnArborF2F; got it
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zakim, +1.303.252.aaaa is Dave
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+Dave; got it
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zakim, +1.303.252.aaaa is Rob
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sorry, lofton, I do not recognize a party named '+1.303.252.aaaa'
13:52:16 [lofton]
zakim, Dave is Rob
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+Rob; got it
13:52:48 [stuart]
zakim, who is here?
13:52:48 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Rob, Dave.a, AnnArborF2F
13:52:49 [Zakim]
On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, Rob, trackbot
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13:53:35 [lofton]
zakim, Dave.a is Dave
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+Dave; got it
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present: Rob, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, ulrich, forrest
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chair: lofton
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look at agenda:
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topic Welcome, Logistics, Week's events, Review agenda
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Goals for this meeting
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finalize 2nd LCWD processing
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schedule CR spec production
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finalize agreement on CR exit criteria
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look at implementations and test suites ("test-fest")
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plan & agree CR/PR schedules
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(start) prepare CR transition materials
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If time allows talk about what is next
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topic: Last Call processing
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any Last Call loose ends
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We had one comment come in
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It was agreed that 2.7.2 is the prefered option.
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lofton - do we need to have a informative pointer in 5.4?
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general consesus was no.
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resolution: update 2.7.2 with the proposed wording
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Lofton will update the spec and Thierry will send a note
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Lofton will update the spec and Thierry will send a note
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lofton - Are there any other items that will impact the last call working draft.
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nobody could think of any.
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14:51:50 [Dave]
i'm here
14:52:18 [bbezaire]
zakim, who's here?
14:52:18 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Rob, AnnArborF2F
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On IRC I see don, RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, stuart, Rob, trackbot
14:52:20 [stuart]
me too
14:54:07 [lofton]
zakim, Rob is Dave
14:54:07 [Zakim]
+Dave; got it
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14:55:27 [lofton]
zakim Dave.a is Rob
14:56:14 [lofton]
zakim, Dave.a is Rob
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+Rob; got it
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mime questions -- BB/cgz and DC/cgm
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Do we need a special mime type for .cgz files?
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It looks like we will not need a special mime type for the compressed files.
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What about links into files?
15:39:32 [lofton]
thierry, thanks for your email about mime. A question Rob asked...
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it appears that SVG is not in the IANA registry. SVG used the "new procedure" of...
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reference [5] in my email message -- registry template is included
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in SVG spec appendix from LCWD to REC, and that should
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accomplish the SVG mime type registration. Do you know why
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its not in IANA registry yet?
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15:54:09 [stuart]
lofton - maybe we should add some text that by convention .cgm is used for uncompressed cgm files and .cgz is used to compressed cgm files.
15:56:08 [stuart]
lofton - a statement warning about changing file extensions might break links
15:57:46 [lofton]
yes, we are agreed -- I will replace the .cgz sentence in 2.4 accordingly
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IANA register URL
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can you please resent the IANA registration URI, I was logged off. Thanks.
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IANA register URL
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- final production of DoC document
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lofton will make the agreed changes to 2.7.2 and send them out around lunch time today
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rob - did we discuss updating the existing IANA registration for CGM?
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we wil discuss IANA registration until tomorrow morning.
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topic: Begin CR discussions...
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- CR Draft and Timeline.
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lofton - with the exception of the cover page the CR draft is almost ready.
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tmichel - the cover page is ready.
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we need to decide "when to publish" it will be a function of when we will have the other stuff prepared.
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it can happen a couple days after a transition call with the director.
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It sounds like sometime the week of Sept 8th.
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Then we might be able to publish on the 10th.
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How long should CR be is the next question.
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lofton - it might take until sometime in October to be able to resolve the fate of the at risk items.
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we need to define the minimum amount of time that we remain in CR.
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lofton - we should probably have the minimum be four weeks.
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after CR exit the document will need to be updated and there needs to be a transition call.
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the driver is the implimentations.
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We are not sure what we need for the exit criteria.
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lofton - we have discovered a hole in the test suite and it may put some of the features at risk.
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if "should" is used in the implementation report then during the transisiton call we would need to discuss this with the director as to why we are different
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Breaking for lunch
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we will return in about 90 minutes
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When we return we will talk about the test suite
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GA_WebCGM(F2F)9:00AM has ended
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Attendees were AnnArborF2F, thierry, Dave, Rob
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We are back from lunch
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zakim, who is here?
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Suart, Zakim excused himself about 30 minutes ago.
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zakim, who is here?
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Stuart, Zakim excused himself about 30 minutes ago.
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bummers, I guess I need to reinvite it
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18:16:38 [Rob]
Are you dialed in at the conference room?
18:16:49 [stuart]
no we are not. we can
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just a min - people are hunting down coffee. we should start in a couple minutes
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We are dialing in now.
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18:25:55 [bbezaire]
zakim, pointer?
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I don't understand your question, bbezaire.
18:26:23 [Dave]
I am here
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scribe: Dav4e
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scribe: Dave
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rrsagent, make logs member
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate Dave
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scribe: stuart
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topic: test suite review
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setGetTextStyle will be fixed by Forrest and reviewed by Don
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getObjectExtent/getObjectExtentTransformed has been updated by Stuart
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Don reviewed
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getObjectExtentTransformed need to have the result say "pass if null"
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transformXCF will be reviewed by Ulrich. Stuart will create a DOM version of the test
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spXCF needs a reference image, and the html file needs the standard header stuff added
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Forrest will take the interpolated interior test and create a fill offset test out of it.
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The test matrix was reviewed and various implementations were compared.
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate stuart
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