IRC log of webcgm on 2009-08-24
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- Zakim, this is WebCGM
- 13:46:11 [Zakim]
- ok, stuart; that matches GA_WebCGM(F2F)9:00AM
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- agenda: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/2009/F2F/
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- scribe: stuart
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- Zakim, who is here?
- 13:47:58 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Dave
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- On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, Rob, trackbot
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- + +1.303.252.aaaa
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- + +1.734.352.aabb
- 13:51:07 [stuart]
- Meeting: WebCGM nerd conference - Ann Arbor
- 13:51:15 [lofton]
- zakim, +1.734.352.aabb is AnnArborF2F
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- +AnnArborF2F; got it
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- zakim, +1.303.252.aaaa is Dave
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- +Dave; got it
- 13:51:56 [lofton]
- zakim, +1.303.252.aaaa is Rob
- 13:51:56 [Zakim]
- sorry, lofton, I do not recognize a party named '+1.303.252.aaaa'
- 13:52:16 [lofton]
- zakim, Dave is Rob
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- +Rob; got it
- 13:52:48 [stuart]
- zakim, who is here?
- 13:52:48 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Rob, Dave.a, AnnArborF2F
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- On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, Rob, trackbot
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- +thierry
- 13:53:35 [lofton]
- zakim, Dave.a is Dave
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- +Dave; got it
- 13:55:05 [stuart]
- present: Rob, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, ulrich, forrest
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- chair: lofton
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- 13:55:49 [lofton]
- look at agenda: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/2009/F2F/
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- topic Welcome, Logistics, Week's events, Review agenda
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- Goals for this meeting
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- finalize 2nd LCWD processing
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- schedule CR spec production
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- finalize agreement on CR exit criteria
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- look at implementations and test suites ("test-fest")
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- plan & agree CR/PR schedules
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- (start) prepare CR transition materials
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- If time allows talk about what is next
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- topic: Last Call processing
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- any Last Call loose ends
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- We had one comment come in
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2009Aug/0013.html
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- It was agreed that 2.7.2 is the prefered option.
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- lofton - do we need to have a informative pointer in 5.4?
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- general consesus was no.
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- resolution: update 2.7.2 with the proposed wording
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- Lofton will update the spec and Thierry will send a note
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- Lofton will update the spec and Thierry will send a note
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- lofton - Are there any other items that will impact the last call working draft.
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- nobody could think of any.
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- -Dave
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- <break>
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- -thierry
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- </break>
- 14:51:50 [Dave]
- i'm here
- 14:52:18 [bbezaire]
- zakim, who's here?
- 14:52:18 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Rob, AnnArborF2F
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- On IRC I see don, RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, stuart, Rob, trackbot
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- me too
- 14:54:07 [lofton]
- zakim, Rob is Dave
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- +Dave; got it
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- +Dave.a
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- zakim Dave.a is Rob
- 14:56:14 [lofton]
- zakim, Dave.a is Rob
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- +Rob; got it
- 14:58:13 [stuart]
- mime questions -- BB/cgz and DC/cgm
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- Do we need a special mime type for .cgz files?
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- It looks like we will not need a special mime type for the compressed files.
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- What about links into files?
- 15:39:32 [lofton]
- thierry, thanks for your email about mime. A question Rob asked...
- 15:39:59 [lofton]
- it appears that SVG is not in the IANA registry. SVG used the "new procedure" of...
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- reference [5] in my email message -- registry template is included
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- in SVG spec appendix from LCWD to REC, and that should
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- accomplish the SVG mime type registration. Do you know why
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- its not in IANA registry yet?
- 15:47:17 [Zakim]
- +thierry
- 15:54:09 [stuart]
- lofton - maybe we should add some text that by convention .cgm is used for uncompressed cgm files and .cgz is used to compressed cgm files.
- 15:56:08 [stuart]
- lofton - a statement warning about changing file extensions might break links
- 15:57:46 [lofton]
- yes, we are agreed -- I will replace the .cgz sentence in 2.4 accordingly
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- IANA register URL http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/image/
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- can you please resent the IANA registration URI, I was logged off. Thanks.
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- IANA register URL http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/image/
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- - final production of DoC document
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- lofton will make the agreed changes to 2.7.2 and send them out around lunch time today
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- rob - did we discuss updating the existing IANA registration for CGM?
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- we wil discuss IANA registration until tomorrow morning.
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- topic: Begin CR discussions...
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- - CR Draft and Timeline.
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- lofton - with the exception of the cover page the CR draft is almost ready.
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- tmichel - the cover page is ready.
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- we need to decide "when to publish" it will be a function of when we will have the other stuff prepared.
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- it can happen a couple days after a transition call with the director.
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- It sounds like sometime the week of Sept 8th.
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- Then we might be able to publish on the 10th.
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- How long should CR be is the next question.
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- lofton - it might take until sometime in October to be able to resolve the fate of the at risk items.
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- we need to define the minimum amount of time that we remain in CR.
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- lofton - we should probably have the minimum be four weeks.
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- after CR exit the document will need to be updated and there needs to be a transition call.
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- the driver is the implimentations.
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- We are not sure what we need for the exit criteria.
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- lofton - we have discovered a hole in the test suite and it may put some of the features at risk.
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- if "should" is used in the implementation report then during the transisiton call we would need to discuss this with the director as to why we are different
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- Breaking for lunch
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- we will return in about 90 minutes
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- When we return we will talk about the test suite
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- -Dave
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- -Rob
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- -thierry
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- -AnnArborF2F
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- GA_WebCGM(F2F)9:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were AnnArborF2F, thierry, Dave, Rob
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- We are back from lunch
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- zakim, who is here?
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- Suart, Zakim excused himself about 30 minutes ago.
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- zakim, who is here?
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- Stuart, Zakim excused himself about 30 minutes ago.
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- bummers, I guess I need to reinvite it
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- Are you dialed in at the conference room?
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- no we are not. we can
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- just a min - people are hunting down coffee. we should start in a couple minutes
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- OK.
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- We are dialing in now.
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- zakim, pointer?
- 18:25:55 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, bbezaire.
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- I am here
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- rrsagent, bookmark
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- See http://www.w3.org/2009/08/24-webcgm-irc#T18-27-05
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- scribe: Dav4e
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- scribe: Dave
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- rrsagent, make logs member
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- rrsagent, make logs member
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- rrsagent, set logs world
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html Dave
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- scribe: stuart
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- topic: test suite review
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- setGetTextStyle will be fixed by Forrest and reviewed by Don
- 18:58:53 [stuart]
- getObjectExtent/getObjectExtentTransformed has been updated by Stuart
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- Don reviewed
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- getObjectExtentTransformed need to have the result say "pass if null"
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- transformXCF will be reviewed by Ulrich. Stuart will create a DOM version of the test
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- spXCF needs a reference image, and the html file needs the standard header stuff added
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- fillOffset
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- Forrest will take the interpolated interior test and create a fill offset test out of it.
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- The test matrix was reviewed and various implementations were compared.
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- rrsagent, make logs member
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- See http://www.w3.org/2009/08/24-webcgm-irc#T19-37-09
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- rrsagent, set logs world
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html stuart
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- bye
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