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13:46:11 <stuart> Zakim, this is WebCGM
13:46:11 <Zakim> ok, stuart; that matches GA_WebCGM(F2F)9:00AM
13:46:51 <stuart> agenda: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/2009/F2F/
13:47:37 <stuart> scribe: stuart
13:47:58 <stuart> Zakim, who is here? 
13:47:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see Dave
13:47:59 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, Rob, trackbot
13:49:06 <Zakim> + +1.303.252.aaaa
13:50:14 <Zakim> + +1.734.352.aabb
13:51:07 <stuart> Meeting: WebCGM nerd conference - Ann Arbor
13:51:15 <lofton> zakim, +1.734.352.aabb is AnnArborF2F
13:51:15 <Zakim> +AnnArborF2F; got it
13:51:32 <lofton> zakim, +1.303.252.aaaa is Dave
13:51:32 <Zakim> +Dave; got it
13:51:56 <lofton> zakim, +1.303.252.aaaa is Rob
13:51:56 <Zakim> sorry, lofton, I do not recognize a party named '+1.303.252.aaaa'
13:52:16 <lofton> zakim, Dave is Rob
13:52:16 <Zakim> +Rob; got it
13:52:48 <stuart> zakim, who is here?
13:52:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see Rob, Dave.a, AnnArborF2F
13:52:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, Rob, trackbot
13:53:32 <Zakim> +thierry
13:53:35 <lofton> zakim, Dave.a is Dave
13:53:35 <Zakim> +Dave; got it
13:55:05 <stuart> present: Rob, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, don, stuart, ulrich, forrest
13:55:18 <stuart> chair: lofton
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13:55:49 <lofton> look at agenda:  http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/2009/F2F/
13:55:50 <stuart> topic Welcome, Logistics, Week's events, Review agenda
13:57:09 <stuart> Goals for this meeting 
13:57:19 <stuart> finalize 2nd LCWD processing 
13:57:27 <stuart> schedule CR spec production 
13:58:05 <stuart> finalize agreement on CR exit criteria 
13:58:48 <stuart> look at implementations and test suites ("test-fest") 
13:58:58 <stuart> plan & agree CR/PR schedules 
13:59:12 <stuart> (start) prepare CR transition materials 
14:00:00 <stuart> If time allows talk about what is next
14:06:19 <stuart> topic: Last Call processing
14:13:02 <stuart> any Last Call loose ends
14:13:16 <stuart> We had one comment come in
14:13:28 <stuart> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2009Aug/0013.html
14:24:45 <stuart> It was agreed that 2.7.2 is the prefered option.
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14:25:10 <stuart> lofton - do we need to have a informative pointer in 5.4?
14:25:16 <stuart> general consesus was no.
14:26:36 <stuart> resolution: update 2.7.2 with the proposed wording 
14:29:05 <stuart> Lofton will update the spec and Thierry will send a note 
14:29:07 <stuart> Lofton will update the spec and Thierry will send a note 
14:33:38 <stuart> lofton - Are there any other items that will impact the last call working draft.
14:34:59 <stuart> nobody could think of any.
14:35:54 <Zakim> -Dave
14:35:55 <stuart> <break>
14:42:01 <Zakim> -thierry
14:50:15 <stuart> </break>
14:51:50 <Dave> i'm here
14:52:18 <bbezaire> zakim, who's here?
14:52:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see Rob, AnnArborF2F
14:52:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see don, RRSAgent, Zakim, Dave, lofton, tmichel, bbezaire, stuart, Rob, trackbot
14:52:20 <stuart> me too
14:54:07 <lofton> zakim, Rob is Dave
14:54:07 <Zakim> +Dave; got it
14:54:44 <Zakim> +Dave.a
14:55:27 <lofton> zakim Dave.a is Rob
14:56:14 <lofton> zakim, Dave.a is Rob
14:56:14 <Zakim> +Rob; got it
14:58:13 <stuart> mime questions -- BB/cgz  and DC/cgm
15:02:47 <stuart> Do we need a special mime type for .cgz files?
15:34:18 <stuart> It looks like we will not need a special mime type for the compressed files.
15:34:30 <stuart> What about links into files?
15:39:32 <lofton> thierry, thanks for your email about mime.  A question Rob asked...
15:39:59 <lofton> it appears that SVG is not in the IANA registry.  SVG used the "new procedure" of...
15:40:33 <lofton> reference [5] in my email message -- registry template is included
15:40:52 <lofton> in SVG spec appendix from LCWD to REC, and that should 
15:41:11 <lofton> accomplish the SVG mime type registration.  Do you know why
15:41:26 <lofton> its not in IANA registry yet?
15:47:17 <Zakim> +thierry
15:54:09 <stuart> lofton - maybe we should add some text that by convention .cgm is used for uncompressed cgm files and .cgz is used to compressed cgm files.
15:56:08 <stuart> lofton - a statement warning about changing file extensions might break links
15:57:46 <lofton> yes, we are agreed -- I will replace the .cgz sentence in 2.4 accordingly
16:00:43 <Rob> IANA register URL http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/image/
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16:02:10 <tmichel> can you please resent the IANA registration URI, I was logged off. Thanks.
16:02:24 <stuart>  IANA register URL http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/image/
16:07:08 <stuart> - final production of DoC document
16:08:45 <stuart> lofton will make the agreed changes to 2.7.2  and send them out around lunch time today
16:10:02 <stuart> rob - did we discuss updating the existing IANA registration for CGM?
16:11:12 <stuart> we wil discuss IANA registration until tomorrow morning.
16:12:10 <stuart> topic: Begin CR discussions...
16:18:19 <stuart> - CR Draft and Timeline.
16:18:52 <stuart> lofton - with the exception of the cover page the CR draft is almost ready.
16:19:08 <stuart> tmichel - the cover page is ready.
16:21:06 <stuart> we need to decide "when to publish"  it will be a function of when we will have the other stuff prepared.
16:21:58 <stuart> it can happen a couple days after a transition call with the director.
16:23:21 <stuart> It sounds like sometime the week of Sept 8th.
16:23:47 <stuart> Then we might be able to publish on the 10th.
16:24:28 <stuart> How long should CR be is the next question.
16:25:23 <stuart> lofton - it might take until sometime in October to be able to resolve the fate of the at risk items.
16:26:39 <stuart> we need to define the minimum amount of time that we remain in CR.
16:27:00 <stuart> lofton - we should probably have the minimum be four weeks.
16:29:42 <stuart> after CR exit the document will need to be updated and there needs to be a transition call.
16:30:03 <stuart> the driver is the implimentations.
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16:34:21 <stuart> We are not sure what we need for the exit criteria. 
16:35:04 <stuart> lofton - we have discovered a hole in the test suite and it may put some of the features at risk.
16:37:03 <stuart> if "should" is used in the implementation report then during the transisiton call we would need to discuss this with the director as to why we are different
16:45:02 <stuart> Breaking for lunch
16:45:18 <stuart> we will return in about 90 minutes
16:46:14 <stuart> When we return we will talk about the test suite
16:46:16 <Zakim> -Dave
16:46:17 <Zakim> -Rob
16:46:17 <Zakim> -thierry
16:46:21 <Zakim> -AnnArborF2F
16:46:22 <Zakim> GA_WebCGM(F2F)9:00AM has ended
16:46:23 <Zakim> Attendees were AnnArborF2F, thierry, Dave, Rob
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18:09:41 <stuart> We are back from lunch
18:13:54 <stuart> zakim, who is here?
18:14:28 <Rob> Suart, Zakim excused himself about 30  minutes ago.
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18:14:53 <stuart> zakim, who is here?
18:15:18 <Rob> Stuart, Zakim excused himself about 30  minutes ago.
18:15:47 <stuart> bummers, I guess I need to reinvite it 
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18:16:38 <Rob> Are you dialed in at the conference room?
18:16:49 <stuart> no we are not.  we can
18:17:15 <stuart> just a min - people are hunting down coffee.  we should start in a couple minutes
18:17:26 <Rob> OK.
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18:21:39 <stuart> We are dialing in now.
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18:25:55 <bbezaire> zakim, pointer?
18:25:55 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bbezaire.
18:26:23 <Dave> I am here
18:27:05 <bbezaire> rrsagent, bookmark
18:27:05 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2009/08/24-webcgm-irc#T18-27-05
18:30:13 <Dave> scribe: Dav4e
18:30:23 <Dave> scribe: Dave
18:30:37 <stuart> rrsagent, make logs member
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18:32:02 <Dave> rrsagent, draft minutes
18:32:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html Dave
18:46:40 <stuart> scribe: stuart
18:47:48 <stuart> topic: test suite review
18:58:11 <stuart> setGetTextStyle will be fixed by Forrest and reviewed by Don
18:58:53 <stuart> getObjectExtent/getObjectExtentTransformed has been updated by Stuart
18:59:53 <stuart> Don reviewed
19:06:57 <stuart> getObjectExtentTransformed need to have the result say "pass if null"
19:10:08 <stuart> transformXCF will be reviewed by Ulrich.  Stuart will create a DOM version of the test
19:12:23 <stuart> spXCF needs a reference image, and the html file needs the standard header stuff added
19:26:46 <stuart> fillOffset
19:31:24 <stuart> Forrest will take the interpolated interior test and create a fill offset test out of it.
19:36:04 <stuart> The test matrix was reviewed and various implementations were compared.
19:36:58 <stuart> rrsagent, make logs member
19:37:09 <stuart> rrsagent, bookmark
19:37:09 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2009/08/24-webcgm-irc#T19-37-09
19:37:28 <stuart> rrsagent, set logs world
19:37:41 <stuart> rrsagent, draft minutes
19:37:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/24-webcgm-minutes.html stuart
20:15:57 <Dave> bye
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