IRC log of core on 2009-08-19

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18:59:47 [aphillip]: zakim, this will be I18n
18:59:47 [Zakim]: ok, aphillip; I see I18N_CoreWG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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19:00:04 [aphillip]: Meeting: Internationalization Core Teleconference
19:00:08 [aphillip]: Chair: Addison Phillips
19:00:19 [aphillip]: ScribeNick: aphillip
19:00:27 [aphillip]: rrsagent, make minutes
19:00:27 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/19-core-minutes.html aphillip
19:01:15 [Zakim]: I18N_CoreWG()3:00PM has now started
19:01:22 [Zakim]: + +1.303.945.aaaa
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19:01:52 [YvesS]: zakim, 303.945.aaaa is YvesS
19:01:52 [Zakim]: sorry, YvesS, I do not recognize a party named '303.945.aaaa'
19:01:55 [Zakim]: +??P0
19:02:03 [r12a]: zakim, dial richard please
19:02:03 [Zakim]: ok, r12a; the call is being made
19:02:05 [Zakim]: +Richard
19:02:08 [YvesS]: zakim, 1.303.945.aaaa is YvesS
19:02:08 [Zakim]: sorry, YvesS, I do not recognize a party named '1.303.945.aaaa'
19:02:17 [Zakim]: +addison
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19:02:23 [YvesS]: zakim, 1.303.945 is YvesS
19:02:23 [Zakim]: sorry, YvesS, I do not recognize a party named '1.303.945'
19:03:17 [Zakim]: +??P6
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19:04:53 [aphillip]: Topic: Agenda
19:05:14 [aphillip]: Topic: Action Items
19:05:17 [Zakim]: +[Oracle]
19:05:27 [aphillip]: Richard: respond on our behalf to CSS on ruby issue
19:05:31 [aphillip]: getting close though
19:05:43 [aphillip]: addison: set up document edit transition with dan for ws-i18n
19:06:04 [aphillip]: richard: publish i18n-guide-frameword as (retired, obsolete) WD
19:06:25 [aphillip]: waiting for Ian to return... he's just back.. so soon
19:06:35 [aphillip]: Topic: Info Share
19:07:01 [aphillip]: the new bcp 47 is to be published RFC 5646 RSN
19:07:40 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/19-core-minutes.html aphillip
19:07:51 [aphillip]: richard: plugging away at bidi thing
19:07:55 [aphillip]: ... techniques doc
19:08:18 [aphillip]: ... and warning us that he's pretty darn close to finishing
19:08:29 [aphillip]: ... so any comments should be make now
19:08:38 [aphillip]: ... working on notes doc that techniques links to
19:08:44 [aphillip]: richard: related to bcp47
19:08:47 [r12a]: http://rishida.net/utils/subtags/
19:08:56 [aphillip]: richard: working hard on updating it
19:09:06 [aphillip]: ... language tag search tool
19:09:29 [aphillip]: ... trying to make it so that people can understand how to make/not make language tags
19:09:41 [aphillip]: ... providing error and warnings when checking tags
19:10:10 [aphillip]: ... plus links to ethnologue, uniview for language and script subtags as appropriate
19:10:21 [aphillip]: ... want to write an article along side it
19:10:31 [aphillip]: ... on how to choose language tags
19:10:58 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/19-core-minutes.html aphillip
19:11:34 [aphillip]: Topic: HTML 5 old issues
19:11:35 [aphillip]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2009Aug/0005.html
19:11:52 [aphillip]: html5 guys trying to close out some issues
19:12:09 [r12a]: ISSUE-11: default-encoding
19:12:09 [r12a]: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/11
19:12:09 [r12a]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Aug/0697.html
19:12:25 [aphillip]: default encoding is the issue that concerns us
19:12:29 [aphillip]: need to decide on this
19:12:52 [r12a]: [[
19:12:54 [r12a]: Otherwise, return an implementation-defined or user-specified default character encoding, with the confidence tentative. In non-legacy environments, the more comprehensive UTF-8 encoding is recommended. Due to its use in legacy content, windows-1252 is recommended as a default in predominantly Western demographics instead. Since these encodings can in many cases be distinguished by inspection, a user agent may heuristically decide which to use as a default.
19:12:56 [r12a]: ]]
19:13:40 [aphillip]: hmm...
19:13:52 [aphillip]: I would s/these encodings/UTF-8
19:14:14 [aphillip]: richard: what are legacy environment and Western demographic
19:17:27 [aphillip]: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#determining0
19:17:45 [r12a]: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#determining-the-character-encoding
19:20:59 [aphillip]: item 7 is the browser's default setting, e.g. the view > encodings menu
19:32:12 [dchiba]: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#character-encodings-0
19:43:25 [aphillip]: ACTION: addison: to write a response proposing new text for html5 immediately following call for forwarding today
19:44:17 [aphillip]: richard: we need to start looking at html5 in earnest
19:44:46 [aphillip]: ... asap
19:45:02 [aphillip]: addison: thinks we need to pull out material on supersets as a separate document
19:46:07 [aphillip]: ACTION: all: review HTML5 (rolling action item to be reviewed weekly)
19:46:59 [aphillip]: richard intends to ask to publish bidi techniques next week
19:47:33 [aphillip]: Topic: AOB?
19:47:40 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/19-core-minutes.html aphillip
19:50:14 [Zakim]: -andrewc
19:50:16 [Zakim]: -addison
19:50:16 [Zakim]: -[Oracle]
19:50:17 [Zakim]: -Felix
19:50:19 [Zakim]: -YvesS
19:50:23 [Zakim]: -Richard
19:50:24 [Zakim]: I18N_CoreWG()3:00PM has ended
19:50:25 [Zakim]: Attendees were +1.303.945.aaaa, Felix, Richard, addison, YvesS, andrewc, [Oracle]
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19:51:46 [r12a]: hey, addison
19:52:01 [r12a]: will you be at the unicode editorial mtg tomorrow ?
19:55:50 [r12a]: aphillip ?
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