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19:17:30 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WSRA
19:17:30 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WS_WSRA()3:30PM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
19:17:31 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference
19:17:31 <trackbot> Date: 18 August 2009
19:18:20 <Bob> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Aug/0037.html
19:18:35 <Bob> chair: Bob Freund
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19:28:09 <Zakim> + +25625660aaaa
19:28:45 <Zakim> +Doug_Davis
19:29:15 <PaulN>  Zakim, aaaa is PaulN
19:29:16 <Zakim> +PaulN; got it
19:29:43 <Zakim> +Bob_Freund
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19:30:55 <Bob> zakim, aacc is fmaciel
19:30:55 <Zakim> +fmaciel; got it
19:31:18 <Bob> zakim, aacc is Sreed
19:31:18 <Zakim> sorry, Bob, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
19:31:26 <Zakim> +Wu_Chou
19:31:27 <Zakim> +Vikas
19:31:29 <Bob> zakim aacc is Sreed
19:31:49 <Bob> zakim, aadd is Sreed
19:31:49 <Zakim> +Sreed; got it
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19:32:26 <Zakim> +Yves
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19:34:43 <Zakim> + +1.408.642.aaee
19:35:08 <dug> Ashok - your pretty tough!
19:35:28 <dug> Bob is looking to cause more divorces 
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19:35:59 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
19:36:00 <Bob> zakim, aaee is vikas
19:36:00 <Zakim> +vikas; got it
19:36:03 <Zakim> +Mark_Little
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19:37:35 <fmaciel> do you see that?
19:38:52 <dug> I think Ram just asked to scribe  :-)
19:39:01 <Bob> scribe: Paul Nolan
19:39:10 <Bob> scribenick: PaulN
19:39:17 <dug> q+
19:39:41 <Bob> ack dug
19:40:09 <Yves> Yves has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Aug/0037.html 
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19:40:44 <PaulN> Agenda is accepted
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19:41:30 <Ram> q+
19:41:39 <Bob> ack ram
19:42:45 <PaulN> RESOLUTION: All three sets of minutes from F2F are accepted
19:43:58 <PaulN> Bob: need chair for 8th Sept - Yves?
19:44:23 <dug> you skipped a few topics
19:44:28 <PaulN> Bob: Yves will let group know if he can not make it.
19:45:40 <PaulN> Yves: Partial put will be done by end Aygust
19:45:44 <Zakim> -vikas
19:47:06 <PaulN> Bob: 6724 Doug will complete 28th August
19:47:40 <Zakim> +vikas.a
19:48:47 <gpilz> zakim, vikas.a is gpilz
19:48:47 <Zakim> +gpilz; got it
19:49:40 <PaulN> Bob has reviewed the expected completion dats of outstanding issues
19:49:57 <PaulN> TOPIC: Hursley Face to Face
19:51:17 <dug> I've fixed ALL of the typos that Ram noticed.
19:51:27 <PaulN> Paul will post details for travel
19:51:45 <dug> do people prefer WS-Fragment or WS-Fragments   ?
19:51:52 <PaulN> TOPIC: July Snapshot
19:51:59 <Yves> WS-Fragment
19:52:09 <Bob> +1 Yves
19:52:16 <Wu> +1
19:52:53 <Ram> q+
19:52:55 <PaulN> Bob: "WS-Fragment" will be used
19:53:00 <Bob> ack ram
19:53:33 <PaulN> Ram: more time requested
19:53:51 <Bob> for MEX and RT
19:54:20 <PaulN> TOPIC: initial draft of WS-Fragment spec
19:54:59 <PaulN> Doug: can people plese review 
19:55:48 <PaulN> Bob: should we accept the spec and raise issues for open questions?
19:56:06 <dug> s/plese/please/
19:57:17 <PaulN> Bob: next week we will review this proposed draft
19:57:30 <PaulN> TOPIC: new issues
19:58:14 <Bob> zakim, whi is making noise
19:58:14 <Zakim> I don't understand 'whi is making noise', Bob
19:58:20 <Bob> zakim, who is making noise
19:58:20 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is making noise', Bob
19:59:19 <PaulN> Bob: no objections to opening new issue 7235
20:00:29 <Zakim> -Mark_Little
20:00:59 <dug> Unless otherwise noted, all URIs are absolute URIs and URI comparison MUST be 
20:01:01 <dug> performed according to [RFC 3986] section 6.2.1.
20:01:21 <PaulN> Doug: new issue 7270. Specs consistency issue
20:01:36 <PaulN> Bob: new issue accepted
20:02:08 <PaulN> TOPIC: issue-6403
20:02:56 <dug> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Aug/0033.html
20:03:11 <PaulN> Bob: we need to resolve an important question before going too far
20:06:14 <PaulN> Ashok: reviewed two points he has raised
20:06:24 <Wu> q+
20:06:33 <Bob> ack wu
20:07:43 <PaulN> wu: should only EP related policies will be attached  inside the EPR
20:09:02 <PaulN> Ashok: only EPR related policies should be attached in the proposed way
20:09:17 <PaulN> q+
20:09:28 <Bob> ack paul
20:10:44 <dug> q+
20:11:00 <Wu> q+
20:11:11 <Bob> ack dug
20:11:42 <Bob> ack wu
20:12:34 <Bob> q+
20:12:36 <PaulN> wu: to clarify. we will define a namespace?
20:13:25 <Ram> q+
20:13:27 <PaulN> Wu: one namespace fo all specs?
20:13:35 <Bob> ack bob
20:13:45 <dug> +1 one NS per spec
20:13:50 <Yves> +1
20:13:50 <gpilz> +1
20:13:53 <Wu> +1 Bob
20:13:57 <PaulN> Bob: should we do one namespace per spec?
20:14:05 <Bob> ack ram
20:15:38 <PaulN> Bob: do we more or less agree on the proposed direction?
20:16:37 <PaulN> q+
20:16:45 <Bob> ack paul
20:17:22 <Wu> Bob's point as I understand (agree) is to have one policy namespace per spec for ease maintenance.
20:17:37 <Wu> q+
20:17:45 <Bob> ack wu
20:17:48 <Ashok> I think that would be fine
20:19:29 <PaulN> Bob: are we agreed on direction?
20:19:44 <PaulN> no
20:20:03 <PaulN> TOPIC: issue-7206
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20:20:23 <Bob> s/no/no moved up a fe lines
20:21:20 <dug> In cases where it is either desirable or necessary for the receiver of a request that has been extended to indicate that it has recognized and accepted the semantics associated with that extension, implementers are encouraged to add a corresponding extension to the response message.
20:21:41 <dug> (that's Gil's text)
20:21:55 <dug> Ram's text: In cases where it is either desirable or necessary for the receiver of a request that has been extended to indicate that it has recognized and accepted the semantics associated with that extension, it is recommended that the receiver add a corresponding extension to the response message.  The definition of an extension should clearly specify how the extension that appears in the...
20:21:57 <dug> ...response correlates with that in the corresponding request.
20:22:05 <PaulN> Gpilz: reviewed proposal
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20:24:19 <Bob> ack wu
20:25:02 <dug> q+
20:25:11 <Bob> ack dug
20:25:37 <PaulN> Doug: is this issue specific to just the one spec?
20:25:57 <PaulN> Gpilz: All specs affected
20:26:36 <PaulN> no objections to proposal
20:26:56 <PaulN> 7206 will be extended to all specs
20:27:12 <PaulN> RESOLUTION: proposal accepted
20:27:48 <PaulN> TOPIC: issue-7204
20:28:41 <dug> +1 to cwna
20:29:00 <Ram> q+
20:29:34 <gpilz> +1 to cwna
20:30:29 <Bob> ack ram
20:30:52 <Zakim> -Sreed
20:31:44 <gpilz> q+
20:32:15 <Bob> ack gp
20:32:26 <Wu> q+
20:33:45 <PaulN> Gpilz: complexity is dealt with by explicity stating cobinations of extensions that are supported.
20:34:22 <Bob> ack wu
20:34:50 <PaulN> Wu: how do we advertise these extensions?
20:35:44 <PaulN> Gpilz: each new extension defines itself
20:36:19 <PaulN> Wu: should we use Policy?
20:38:13 <PaulN> Wu: should we use WSDL to advertise?
20:41:45 <PaulN> Bob: notes that WS-Policy should be used for extensions
20:42:13 <PaulN> RESOLUTION: no action
20:42:33 <Ram> q+
20:42:44 <Bob> ack ram
20:43:40 <PaulN> TOPIC: isue-71??
20:44:07 <Bob> s/??/60
20:44:08 <Ram> -Issue-7160 Eventing:check 2119 terms http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7160 -Davis
20:44:30 <PaulN> TOPIC: isue-7191
20:44:53 <PaulN> RESOLUTION: as proposed
20:45:07 <PaulN> TOPIC: isue-7193
20:45:13 <PaulN> RESOLUTION: as proposed
20:45:24 <PaulN> TOPIC: isue-7195
20:45:32 <PaulN> RESOLUTION: as proposed
20:46:02 <PaulN> TOPIC: isue-7196
20:46:04 <dug> q+
20:46:13 <Bob> ack dug
20:46:13 <PaulN> RESOLUTION: as proposed
20:46:28 <PaulN> TOPIC: isue-7197
20:46:50 <PaulN> RESOLUTION: as proposed
20:47:33 <PaulN> TOPIC: isue-6401
20:48:48 <Zakim> -Vikas
20:48:49 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
20:48:50 <Zakim> -Wu_Chou
20:48:51 <Zakim> -Tom_Rutt
20:48:52 <Zakim> -gpilz
20:48:53 <Zakim> -fmaciel
20:48:53 <Zakim> -Doug_Davis
20:48:54 <Zakim> -Bob_Freund
20:48:55 <Zakim> -PaulN
20:48:57 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
20:48:59 <Zakim> -Yves
20:49:00 <Bob> rrsagent, generate minutes
20:49:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/18-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob
20:49:01 <Zakim> WS_WSRA()3:30PM has ended
20:49:03 <Zakim> Attendees were +25625660aaaa, Doug_Davis, PaulN, Bob_Freund, +984999aabb, Tom_Rutt, +1.408.970.aacc, +984999aadd, fmaciel, Wu_Chou, Vikas, Sreed, Yves, Ashok_Malhotra,
20:49:06 <Zakim> ... +1.408.642.aaee, [Microsoft], Mark_Little, gpilz
20:50:36 <Bob> rrsagent, generate minutes
20:50:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/18-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob
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