12:45:27 RRSAgent has joined #ssn 12:45:27 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/08/18-ssn-irc 12:45:40 Zakim has joined #ssn 12:45:48 zakim, this will be INC_SSN 12:45:48 ok, Holger; I see INC_SSN()9:00AM scheduled to start in 15 minutes 12:46:16 Meeting: SSN XG 18-August-2009 12:46:22 Chair: Holger 12:47:35 Regrets: Manfred, Krzysztof 12:47:46 agenda+ Roll call 12:47:54 agenda+ Actions from last meeting 12:48:03 agenda+ Ontology Working Packages 12:48:20 agenda+ AOB 12:48:25 agenda? 12:52:15 Payam has joined #SSN 12:52:20 Hi 12:53:26 INC_SSN()9:00AM has now started 12:53:33 +??P0 12:55:03 kerrytaylor has joined #ssn 12:55:42 +mscottm 12:56:01 +Holger 12:56:11 Danh_DERI has joined #ssn 12:56:54 zakim, who's on the phone? 12:56:54 On the phone I see ??P0, mscottm, Holger 12:58:59 + +1.206.662.aaaa 12:59:42 kelsey has joined #ssn 12:59:45 Arthur has joined #ssn 13:00:14 +??P5 13:00:51 Zakim, ??P5 is me 13:00:51 +Arthur; got it 13:01:15 krp has joined #ssn 13:01:27 + +1.937.239.aabb 13:01:28 +[IPcaller] 13:02:05 +Betty 13:02:12 michael_ has joined #ssn 13:02:13 zakim, Betty is me 13:02:13 +krp; got it 13:02:16 kerry has joined #ssn 13:02:45 +??P10 13:02:46 + +39.033.278.aacc 13:03:02 zakim, ??P10 is me 13:03:02 +michael_; got it 13:04:15 zakim, who's making noise? 13:04:33 Holger, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +39.033.278.aacc (15%) 13:05:31 holger, that might be me, but I'm not sure 13:06:12 agenda? 13:08:58 scox has joined #ssn 13:09:40 ScribeNick: scox 13:09:43 Yes, a lot of noise here too 13:10:18 agenda? 13:12:54 - +1.937.239.aabb 13:13:18 zakim, who's making noise? 13:13:28 Holger, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (5%), michael_ (100%) 13:13:50 zakim, who's making noise? 13:14:00 Holger, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: michael_ (90%) 13:14:27 + +1.202.408.aadd 13:14:28 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Suggested_Ontology_Working_Packages 13:14:29 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Suggested_Ontology_Working_Packages 13:15:06 bermudez has joined #ssn 13:15:20 zakim, who's making noise? 13:15:31 Holger, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (4%), michael_ (95%) 13:15:52 zakim, mute [IPcaller] 13:15:52 [IPcaller] should now be muted 13:16:02 zakim, who's making noise? 13:16:13 Holger, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: mscottm (10%), michael_ (61%) 13:16:55 zakim, unmute [IPcaller] 13:16:55 [IPcaller] should no longer be muted 13:17:01 zakim, who's making noise? 13:17:13 Holger, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: mscottm (40%), [IPcaller] (40%), +39.033.278.aacc (8%) 13:17:23 zakim, mute [IPcaller] 13:17:23 [IPcaller] should now be muted 13:17:33 zakim, mute mscottm 13:17:33 mscottm should now be muted 13:20:11 sorry... im late... could you please provide the url to the list 13:20:18 good idea. I'll add ontologies. 13:20:35 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Suggested_Ontology_Working_Packages 13:21:25 +q 13:22:31 ack bermudez 13:23:22 +q 13:24:05 ack michael_ 13:24:20 So the focus in this is on the device side of the ontology? 13:27:02 I think luis was including the O&M ontologies as wel 13:28:40 +q 13:28:48 Luis, so you are proposing starting with something smaller, core, so we can agree on that, then expand (checking, agreeing) piecemeal at each stage? 13:29:02 ack Payam 13:29:29 Rather than splitting into components, agreeing on them individually, then putting the jigsaw together 13:29:36 +q 13:30:37 is Payam looking for higher-order framwework? 13:30:44 yes 13:31:14 zakim, umute mscottm 13:31:14 I don't understand 'umute mscottm', Holger 13:31:31 zakim, umute mscottm. 13:31:31 I don't understand 'umute mscottm', Holger 13:31:41 i am here 13:31:46 unmute, not umute 13:31:50 zakim, unmute me 13:31:50 sorry, kerry, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 13:31:56 zakim, unmute mscottm 13:31:56 mscottm should no longer be muted 13:32:07 zakim, unmute [IPcaller] 13:32:07 [IPcaller] should no longer be muted 13:32:22 zakim, mute mscottm 13:32:22 mscottm should now be muted 13:32:28 can you hear me now? 13:34:19 +q 13:34:22 +q 13:34:33 ack kerry 13:34:40 ack scox 13:35:34 ack bermudez 13:36:17 +1 Luis, there has definitely been confusion on this 13:37:13 +1 - yes these fundamentals certainly need to be clear 13:37:23 +1 13:37:50 +q 13:38:11 ack michael_ 13:38:38 +q 13:39:03 -q 13:39:03 +q 13:39:03 +q 13:39:51 +q 13:40:42 +q 13:40:45 +q 13:41:15 ack kerry 13:41:48 ack Payam 13:42:45 ack krp 13:44:11 ack scox 13:44:11 +q 13:45:03 ack bermudez 13:45:29 ack michael_ 13:46:46 we can define partitions related to the different concepts (from our working package) on top of our first ontology version. 13:47:35 Consensus (intersection) is not the focus of the original review, we haven't seen it, so we can't be sure that we agree 13:48:59 +q 13:49:47 Kerry proposed that the CSIRO ontology shoudl be the basis 13:50:06 ack michael_ 13:52:26 Scribe has another telecon on the hour so will quit then! 13:53:48 ye! 13:53:56 -Arthur 13:53:58 - +1.206.662.aaaa 13:54:03 -michael_ 13:54:05 -??P0 13:54:05 michael_ has left #ssn 13:54:06 - +1.202.408.aadd 13:54:10 Arthur has left #ssn 13:54:11 -mscottm 13:54:13 -Holger 13:54:14 bermudez has left #ssn 13:54:15 -krp 13:54:17 kerry 13:54:24 -kerry 13:54:37 zakim, bye 13:54:37 leaving. As of this point the attendees were mscottm, Holger, +1.206.662.aaaa, Arthur, +1.937.239.aabb, [IPcaller], krp, +39.033.278.aacc, michael_, +1.202.408.aadd 13:54:37 Zakim has left #ssn 13:54:46 rrsagent, make log public 13:54:55 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:54:55 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/18-ssn-minutes.html Holger 13:55:19 rrsagent, bye 13:55:19 I see no action items