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19:58:14 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
19:58:14 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
19:58:15 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
19:58:15 <trackbot> Date: 13 August 2009
19:58:26 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2009JulSep/0021.html
19:58:33 <MichaelC> regrets: Bruce_Bailey
19:59:06 <MichaelC> agenda+ Miscellaneous Issues for 13 Aug 2009 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20090813misc/results
19:59:22 <MichaelC> agenda+ Update on Rapid Response Process
19:59:31 <MichaelC> agenda+ Planning for update of Understanding and Techniques
19:59:34 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
19:59:41 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow_Weaver
19:59:44 <MichaelC> agenda+ Face to Face at TPAC
19:59:52 <Zakim> +Cooper
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20:00:56 <Zakim> + +1.415.373.aaaa
20:01:05 <Zakim> +[Oracle]
20:01:22 <jamesn> zakim, Oracle is James_Nurthen
20:01:22 <Zakim> +James_Nurthen; got it
20:01:26 <Sofia> zakim,  +1.415.373.aaaa is sofia_celic
20:01:26 <Zakim> +sofia_celic; got it
20:01:27 <Zakim> + +1.617.219.aabb
20:01:29 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:01:41 <Zakim> +??P7
20:01:48 <Zakim> +??P10
20:01:51 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:01:53 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P7 is Bengt_Farre
20:01:53 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
20:01:57 <Ben> zakim, ??P10 is Ben_Caldwell
20:01:57 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
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20:05:11 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
20:05:11 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Miscellaneous Issues for 13 Aug 2009 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20090813misc/results" taken up [from MichaelC]
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20:07:46 <jamesn> TOPIC: Errata -  SC 1.4.4 Contrast (Minimum)
20:08:21 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accepted Errata -  SC 1.4.4 Contrast (Minimum) as proposed
20:08:34 <MichaelC> action: cooper to update errata as per http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20090813misc/results#xerrata
20:08:34 <trackbot> Created ACTION-37 - Update errata as per http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20090813misc/results#xerrata [on Michael Cooper - due 2009-08-20].
20:08:53 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue 2727:  Text color, G148 1.4.3 & 1.4.6
20:09:12 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accepted Issue 2727:  Text color, G148 1.4.3 & 1.4.6
20:09:55 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issues 2724, 2742:  1.3.1. vs. 1.3.2 Meaningful Sequence vs. Info and Relationships
20:10:08 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:11:54 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accepted Issues 2724, 2742:  1.3.1. vs. 1.3.2 Meaningful Sequence vs. Info and Relationships with minor editorial edits
20:12:02 <MichaelC> action: Andi to propose editorial cleanup to proposal in issue 2724 and 2742
20:12:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-38 - Propose editorial cleanup to proposal in issue 2724 and 2742 [on Andi Snow-Weaver - due 2009-08-20].
20:12:24 <jamesn> TOPIC: Sufficient Technique for SC 2.2.1: Adjusting the time limit to ten times the time
20:13:38 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
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20:15:48 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:20:38 <Loretta> #
20:20:41 <Loretta> Adjust: The user is allowed to adjust the time limit before encountering it over a wide range that is at least ten times the length of the default setting; or
20:20:43 <Loretta> #
20:20:45 <Loretta> Extend: The user is warned before time expires and given at least 20 seconds to extend the time limit with a simple action (for example, "press the space bar"), and the user is allowed to extend the time limit at least ten times; 
20:38:57 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Do not accept Sufficient Technique for SC 2.2.1: Adjusting the time limit to 10 times the time.
20:40:55 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue 2702: H48 included in H50  
21:00:08 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accept Issue 2702 as modified
21:00:41 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue 2704: H85 optgroup  
21:02:06 <Andi> zakim, who is making noise?
21:02:18 <Zakim> Andi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Katie_Haritos-Shea (45%), Tim_Boland (4%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (9%)
21:06:40 <Zakim> -sofia_celic
21:07:13 <Zakim> +sofia_celic
21:08:38 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Leave issue 2704 open
21:09:01 <jamesn> action: Ben to update User agent note for H85
21:09:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-39 - Update User agent note for H85 [on Ben Caldwell - due 2009-08-20].
21:09:46 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue 2746: ALT text for icon (H30, Example 4)
21:11:08 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
21:19:32 <jamesn> ACTION: sofia to try to come up with a better example 4 for H30
21:19:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-40 - Try to come up with a better example 4 for H30 [on Sofia Celic-Li - due 2009-08-20].
21:19:54 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: leave issue 2746 open
21:20:16 <jamesn> TOPIC: Issue 2721:  Resize Text (technique submission)
21:20:47 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
21:22:46 <jamesn> RESOLUTION: Accepted issue 2721 as ammended.
21:23:00 <jamesn> zakim, next item
21:23:00 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Update on Rapid Response Process" taken up [from MichaelC]
21:29:33 <bengt> when in november ?
21:30:15 <bengt> has to be in toronto about that perhaps
21:32:10 <Loretta> nov 2-6
21:33:07 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
21:33:07 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
21:33:08 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:33:09 <Zakim> 3. Planning for update of Understanding and Techniques [from MichaelC]
21:33:10 <MichaelC> zakim, take up item 4
21:33:10 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Face to Face at TPAC" taken up [from MichaelC]
21:33:12 <Andi> Andi has left #wai-wcag
21:33:19 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: Cancel FtF at TPAC
21:33:22 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
21:33:22 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
21:33:23 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
21:33:24 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
21:33:24 <Zakim> 3. Planning for update of Understanding and Techniques [from MichaelC]
21:33:25 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Planning for update of Understanding and Techniques" taken up [from MichaelC]
21:35:06 <jamesn> ACTION: cooper to fix the ARIA techniques which are already available
21:35:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-41 - Fix the ARIA techniques which are already available [on Michael Cooper - due 2009-08-20].
21:35:08 <Zakim> -sofia_celic
21:35:09 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
21:35:09 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:35:11 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:35:11 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
21:35:12 <Zakim> -Ben_Caldwell
21:35:16 <Zakim> -Cooper
21:35:19 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
21:35:27 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:35:28 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
21:35:30 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
21:35:31 <Zakim> Attendees were Andi_Snow_Weaver, Cooper, James_Nurthen, sofia_celic, +1.617.219.aabb, Katie_Haritos-Shea, David_MacDonald, Bengt_Farre, Ben_Caldwell, Andrew_Kirkpatricck,
21:35:33 <Zakim> ... Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Cynthia_Shelly, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:35:43 <jamesn> rrsagent, make minutes
21:35:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/13-wai-wcag-minutes.html jamesn
21:36:56 <jamesn> rrsagent, please part
21:36:56 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/13-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
21:36:56 <RRSAgent> ACTION: cooper to update errata as per http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20090813misc/results#xerrata [1]
21:36:56 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/13-wai-wcag-irc#T20-08-34
21:36:56 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Andi to propose editorial cleanup to proposal in issue 2724 and 2742 [2]
21:36:56 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/13-wai-wcag-irc#T20-12-02
21:36:56 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to update User agent note for H85 [3]
21:36:56 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/13-wai-wcag-irc#T21-09-01
21:36:56 <RRSAgent> ACTION: sofia to try to come up with a better example 4 for H30 [4]
21:36:56 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/13-wai-wcag-irc#T21-19-32
21:36:56 <RRSAgent> ACTION: cooper to fix the ARIA techniques which are already available [5]
21:36:56 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/08/13-wai-wcag-irc#T21-35-06