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13:24:02 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be BPWG
13:24:02 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see MWI_BPWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
13:24:03 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:24:03 <trackbot> Date: 11 August 2009
13:24:07 <francois> Chair: francois
13:26:09 <francois> Regrets: jo, dka, alanc, yeliz, abel, miguel, manrique, nacho
13:26:23 <francois> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Aug/0004.html
13:26:50 <francois> francois has changed the topic to: BPWG channel
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13:29:10 <tomhume> zakim, what is the code?
13:29:10 <Zakim> the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), tomhume
13:29:53 <Zakim> MWI_BPWG()9:30AM has now started
13:30:00 <Zakim> +??P4
13:30:04 <tomhume> zakim, ??P4 is me
13:30:04 <Zakim> +tomhume; got it
13:31:09 <Zakim> +francois
13:34:04 <Zakim> + +41.31.972.aaaa
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13:34:42 <adam> zakim,code?
13:34:42 <Zakim> the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), adam
13:35:18 <Zakim> + +1.207.881.aabb
13:35:24 <adam> zakim.aabb is me
13:35:30 <adam> zakim, aabb is me
13:35:30 <Zakim> +adam; got it
13:39:21 <Zakim> +??P0
13:39:30 <EdC> scribe 
13:39:30 <francois> Scribe: EdC
13:39:47 <francois> zakim, ??P0 is kai
13:39:47 <Zakim> +kai; got it
13:40:42 <EdC> MobileOK scheme: formal correction to media type in the document necessary. 
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13:41:34 <EdC> The correction could be published in a list of errata. Suggestion: re-publish the note with the correction. 
13:41:37 <francois> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: re-publish the mobileOK Scheme Note with the correct "application/powder+xml" media type for POWDER.
13:41:45 <EdC> Deemed important because of impact on the validator.
13:41:46 <EdC> +1
13:41:54 <francois> +1
13:42:34 <EdC> RESOLUTION: re-publish the mobileOK Scheme Note with the correct "application/powder+xml" media type for POWDER.
13:42:58 <francois> i/MobileOK scheme/Topic: mobileOK Scheme: incorrect media type
13:43:04 <francois> Topic: CT Guidelines - X-Device-* registration
13:43:11 <francois> ACTION-928?
13:43:11 <trackbot> ACTION-928 -- François Daoust to progress registration of the X- headers irrespective his personal distate for the subject -- due 2009-04-02 -- OPEN
13:43:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/928
13:43:52 <EdC> Registration of X-Device-* header fields: a few replied in the IETF mailing list. Suggestion: register the header fields without X- prefix. 
13:44:12 <EdC> François lets one more week pass on the IETF mailing list before registration takes place.
13:44:20 <francois> -> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-message-headers/current/msg00101.html latest discussion on the IETF mailing-list
13:44:48 <francois> Topic: CT Guidelines - Tests on same origin policy
13:44:54 <francois> ACTION-969?
13:44:54 <trackbot> ACTION-969 -- Charles McCathieNevile to forward tests for Xss and cookie handling to group -- due 2009-06-23 -- OPEN
13:44:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/969
13:45:20 <Zakim> + +1.630.414.aacc
13:45:30 <EdC> Tests have not been reviewed so far. Somebody should be given a task to do this. 
13:45:35 <SeanP> Zakim,aacc is me
13:45:35 <Zakim> +SeanP; got it
13:45:43 <EdC> Is the question whether the tests cover what we want to check ?
13:47:18 <EdC> Main problem (François, Eduardo): seem ok, but do they cover the issues of same-origin policy? Security specialists think this is not so simple an aspect to test at run-time.
13:47:36 <EdC> Suggestion: deeper review of the test suite. 
13:47:53 <francois> ACTION: daoust to review tests provided by Charles on same origin policy
13:47:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1001 - Review tests provided by Charles on same origin policy [on François Daoust - due 2009-08-18].
13:48:07 <francois> Topic: CT Guidelines - mailing-list for conformance statements
13:48:13 <francois> ACTION-991?
13:48:13 <trackbot> ACTION-991 -- François Daoust to check legality of mailing list name and maek the new list -- due 2009-07-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW
13:48:13 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/991
13:48:27 <francois> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Jul/0018.html mailing-list announcement 
13:48:39 <francois> public-content-transformation-conformance@w3.org
13:48:52 <EdC> Mailing list to publish and comment on ICS for transformation proxies.
13:49:01 <francois> close ACTION-991
13:49:01 <trackbot> ACTION-991 Check legality of mailing list name and maek the new list closed
13:49:08 <francois> Topic: CT Guidelines - Implementation Conformance Statement
13:49:30 <francois> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Jun/0137.html updated ICS announcement
13:49:56 <EdC> ICS have not been formally reviewed yet. An update has been prepared by François.
13:50:42 <EdC> Two variants: one version with all statements, and one excluding the MUST/MUST NOT statements. First impressions are that the former version is preferable. Suggestion: decide to use the complete ICS variant.
13:50:42 <francois> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-drafts/Guidelines/ics-090622-must complete version
13:50:49 <francois> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-drafts/Guidelines/ics-090622 should-only version
13:50:56 <EdC> EdC: I am in favour of the complete version.
13:51:30 <francois> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Use a complete ICS that contains both MUST/MUST NOT and SHOULD/SHOULD NOT statements
13:51:37 <EdC> And I favour keeping it as a separate document from the CTG itself !
13:52:12 <SeanP> I like the full version.
13:52:45 <tomhume> +1
13:52:49 <SeanP> Agree that it should be a separate document.
13:52:52 <francois> +1
13:52:53 <EdC> Initial idea of excluding MUST was that they have to be respected anyway (so are somewhat redundant when assessing the conformance of an implementation).
13:52:54 <EdC> +1
13:53:01 <SeanP> +1
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13:53:06 <EdC> q+
13:53:32 <francois> EdC: keep that as a separate document or integrate it with main document?
13:54:31 <francois> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Use a separate ICS document that contains all MUST-level and SHOULD-level statements
13:54:38 <francois> +1
13:54:40 <EdC> +1
13:54:53 <SeanP> +1
13:55:10 <EdC> RESOLUTION: Use a separate ICS document that contains all MUST-level and SHOULD-level statements
13:56:01 <EdC> Regarding content: satisfactory so far. No further formatting needed.
13:56:06 <SeanP> Looks good to me.
13:56:22 <francois> close ACTION-892
13:56:22 <trackbot> ACTION-892 Prepare an ICS with MUST/MUST NOT (to view if that's a good idea), try to add a "depends on" column, explain "Not applicable" or remove it. closed
13:56:36 <francois> Topic: CT Guidelines - issues and actions
13:56:50 <francois> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Jun/0102.html jo's email
13:57:13 <francois> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-drafts/Guidelines/090622 latest CT draft
13:57:46 <francois> ACTION-971?
13:57:47 <trackbot> ACTION-971 -- Jo Rabin to adopt text proposed by EdC and Amended by Jo for the Abstract -- due 2009-06-22 -- PENDINGREVIEW
13:57:47 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/971
13:59:16 <EdC> Many actions pending review. 
13:59:19 <francois> close ACTION-971
13:59:19 <trackbot> ACTION-971 Adopt text proposed by EdC and Amended by Jo for the Abstract closed
13:59:25 <francois> ACTION-972?
13:59:25 <trackbot> ACTION-972 -- Jo Rabin to add NOT RECOMMENDED to the rfc2119 section of the document -- due 2009-06-22 -- PENDINGREVIEW
13:59:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/972
13:59:41 <francois> close ACTION-972
13:59:41 <trackbot> ACTION-972 add NOT RECOMMENDED to the rfc2119 section of the document closed
13:59:52 <francois> ACTION-973?
13:59:52 <trackbot> ACTION-973 -- Jo Rabin to add Accept-Language ot the other than list in 4.1.5 -- due 2009-06-23 -- PENDINGREVIEW
13:59:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/973
14:00:08 <francois> close ACTION-973
14:00:08 <trackbot> ACTION-973 Add Accept-Language ot the other than list in 4.1.5 closed
14:00:22 <francois> ACTION-974?
14:00:22 <trackbot> ACTION-974 -- Jo Rabin to enact the resolution of 28th April ref x-device cf http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Jun/0044.html -- due 2009-06-23 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:00:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/974
14:01:11 <francois> close ACTION-974
14:01:11 <trackbot> ACTION-974 Enact the resolution of 28th April ref x-device cf http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Jun/0044.html closed
14:01:31 <francois> ACTION-975?
14:01:31 <trackbot> ACTION-975 -- Jo Rabin to correct SeanP's point 2 -- due 2009-06-23 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:01:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/975
14:01:37 <EdC> I believe it was just to refer to RFC, and avoid inserting production rules for the X-Device-fields.
14:01:49 <francois> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Jun/0050.html Sean's comments on previous email
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14:02:24 <EdC> Sean to review Action 975.
14:02:57 <francois> ACTION: sean to review Jo's updates in draft 1s based on his feedback. When done, actions 975, 976, 977, 978, 979 can be closed
14:02:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1002 - Review Jo's updates in draft 1s based on his feedback. When done, actions 975, 976, 977, 978, 979 can be closed [on Sean Patterson - due 2009-08-18].
14:03:22 <francois> ACTION-980?
14:03:23 <trackbot> ACTION-980 -- Jo Rabin to remove editorial note at 4.2.9 ref mobileOK and add a reference to mobileOK scheme to show how it is done -- due 2009-06-23 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:03:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/980
14:03:58 <francois> close ACTION-980
14:03:58 <trackbot> ACTION-980 Remove editorial note at 4.2.9 ref mobileOK and add a reference to mobileOK scheme to show how it is done closed
14:04:17 <francois> ACTION-985?
14:04:18 <trackbot> ACTION-985 -- Eduardo Casais to assess whether there is any relevant terminology we can quote in respect of last para of Section 5 - cf ACTION-933 -- due 2009-06-23 -- CLOSED
14:04:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/985
14:04:50 <Zakim> +??P41
14:05:12 <francois> Topic: Addendum to BP (BP1.5) - Status update
14:05:54 <EdC> Any news from Kai on BP: none. Work still outstanding. Kai was absent (vacations) and must catch up with the status of the edition of the document.
14:05:54 <francois> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/products/9 Old actions
14:06:32 <francois> ACTION-797?
14:06:32 <trackbot> ACTION-797 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to check on availability of data about the number of acceptable links in a focus-based browser -- due 2008-09-25 -- OPEN
14:06:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/797
14:06:59 <EdC> Action 797 still open, old action. Discussion has been interrupted for a long time.
14:06:59 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 797
14:07:33 <francois> close ACTION-797
14:07:33 <trackbot> ACTION-797 Check on availability of data about the number of acceptable links in a focus-based browser closed
14:07:45 <francois> ACTION-837?
14:07:45 <trackbot> ACTION-837 -- Kai Scheppe to provide explanatory text for the addendum which will put the document (mobileOK Pro Tests 1) in the correct context and explain to the audience that it is intended to aid content authors in creating still better content. -- due 2008-09-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:07:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/837
14:08:01 <francois> close ACTION-837
14:08:01 <trackbot> ACTION-837 Provide explanatory text for the addendum which will put the document (mobileOK Pro Tests 1) in the correct context and explain to the audience that it is intended to aid content authors in creating still better content. closed
14:08:04 <EdC> The pending actions can be closed, they have been taken care of and integrated in the document.
14:08:08 <francois> ACTION-847?
14:08:08 <trackbot> ACTION-847 -- Kai Scheppe to change the Addendum according to the resolution about toning down the test character of the document -- due 2008-09-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:08:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/847
14:08:14 <francois> close ACTION-847
14:08:14 <trackbot> ACTION-847 Change the Addendum according to the resolution about toning down the test character of the document closed
14:08:17 <francois> ACTION-848?
14:08:17 <trackbot> ACTION-848 -- Kai Scheppe to sprinkle in delivery context information (DDC and others) where appropriate -- due 2008-09-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:08:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/848
14:08:22 <francois> close ACTION-848
14:08:22 <trackbot> ACTION-848 Sprinkle in delivery context information (DDC and others) where appropriate closed
14:08:56 <francois> Topic: MWABP - Status update
14:09:12 <EdC> Adam has posted a couple of messages on the mailing list regarding MWABP.
14:09:20 <Zakim> -tomhume
14:09:49 <EdC> I.e. new text for handling recognition of device capabilities. Important change to be reviewed. 
14:10:16 <EdC> Apart from other less major revisions, the pending point is a discussion on Canvas/SVG. 
14:10:53 <brucel> is there a direct link to the CSSMQ and Canvas/ SVG changes?
14:10:58 <EdC> A detailed answer to Jonathan's suggestion has been made. J's proposals have been included in some form or another in the document, so no further work should be needed there.
14:11:06 <EdC> Afterwards, the document could be published.
14:11:25 <EdC> CSS-MQ and Canvas/SVG are two separate issues.
14:11:43 <francois> Topic: MWABP - CSS Media Queries
14:12:22 <EdC> Adam thinks it is not necessary to expand the text much. Some more context about CSS-MQ should be provided, but the technology is fairly clear.
14:12:27 <francois> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Aug/0005.html latest text for handling variations and CSS MQ
14:14:02 <EdC> q+
14:14:34 <francois> EdC: hadn't we in a previous meeting decided that they should be some kind of warnings on CSS media types?
14:14:59 <francois> adam: there's a sentence that they should not be fully relied upon.
14:15:25 <francois> EdC: that's two different things. There's media queries and media types, and media types are sometimes suprisingly handled by mobile devices
14:15:26 <brucel> media types as in "handheld"?
14:15:42 <francois> adam: ok, understood.
14:16:58 <EdC> People should review the proposed text and make comments on the mailing list. 
14:17:35 <francois> ACTION-997?
14:17:35 <trackbot> ACTION-997 -- Adam Connors to write first text based on the listserve discussion of Media Queries -- due 2009-07-21 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:17:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/997
14:18:01 <francois> Topic: MWABP - ISSUE-293 on pixel density
14:18:14 <EdC> An issue becoming more acute in the mobile environment: pixel density.
14:18:37 <EdC> q+
14:18:45 <francois> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Aug/0000.html EdC's email on pixel density
14:19:10 <francois> EdC: I would have difficulty to propose any kind of BP. It's becoming more and more acute. It's something to keep an eye.
14:22:05 <EdC> Existing BP are weak on this topic. BP 1 deals with absolute measures vs. relative, font dimensions, not really informational content. 
14:22:31 <EdC> The topic is becoming important, but there are no best practices we can identify at this stage. The group stands by its previous resolution.
14:22:45 <francois> ACTION-845?
14:22:45 <trackbot> ACTION-845 -- Kai Scheppe to finalize information on caching concept, now live, and contribute it to the list. -- due 2008-09-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:22:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/845
14:24:02 <EdC> The question is: has the information in the BP related to caching been completed? The text contains now recommendations about caching; are they enough?
14:24:35 <francois> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Sep/0052.html Kai's email on caching
14:25:16 <francois> close ACTION-845
14:25:16 <trackbot> ACTION-845 Finalize information on caching concept, now live, and contribute it to the list. closed
14:25:34 <EdC> According to Kai: this was supposed to be reviewed by a colleague of Dan (but wasn't done). Some fairly detailed caching behaviour has been discussed.
14:25:40 <francois> ACTION-995?
14:25:40 <trackbot> ACTION-995 -- Adam Connors to look through J.J.'s email and apply additional text as necessary to reflect the additional desireable goals as a note after each individual BP. -- due 2009-07-14 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:25:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/995
14:26:11 <EdC> We give some more time to Jonathan so that he can consider the detailed response of Adam to his proposals.
14:26:22 <francois> ACTION-899?
14:26:22 <trackbot> ACTION-899 -- François Daoust to contact WSC team (Thomas) to obtain a view on the secure hash mechanism discussed under 3.2.1 in BP2 -- due 2009-01-27 -- CLOSED
14:26:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/899
14:26:29 <francois> ACTION-999?
14:26:30 <trackbot> ACTION-999 -- Daniel Appelquist to feedback on action-845 -- due 2009-07-21 -- OPEN
14:26:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/999
14:26:41 <francois> close ACTION-999
14:26:41 <trackbot> ACTION-999 Feedback on action-845 closed
14:27:41 <francois> Topic: Actions and issues
14:27:42 <EdC> MWABP: almost there: CSS-MQ to be reviewed. Main issue: Canvas/SVG (a proposal is to be sent by Jeff). Afterwards, the document is ready to be published.
14:27:44 <francois> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/products
14:28:01 <francois> ACTION-970?
14:28:01 <trackbot> ACTION-970 -- Phil Archer to ask Rigo to consider Jo's comments and revise mobileOK license accordingly -- due 2009-06-09 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:28:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/970
14:28:21 <francois> close ACTION-970
14:28:21 <trackbot> ACTION-970 ask Rigo to consider Jo's comments and revise mobileOK license accordingly closed
14:28:35 <francois> ACTION-838?
14:28:35 <trackbot> ACTION-838 -- Bryan Sullivan to summarise points to take back to the WebApps group -- due 2008-09-10 -- OPEN
14:28:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/838
14:28:58 <EdC> Old action still open.
14:29:16 <francois> close ACTION-838
14:29:16 <trackbot> ACTION-838 Summarise points to take back to the WebApps group closed
14:29:29 <francois> ACTION-875?
14:29:29 <trackbot> ACTION-875 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to scope current draft and see what aspects may be of interest to us. -- due 2008-10-27 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:29:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/875
14:29:51 <francois> close ACTION-875
14:29:51 <trackbot> ACTION-875 Scope current draft and see what aspects may be of interest to us. closed
14:29:56 <EdC> Reply to be sent, but missed the deadline.
14:30:23 <francois> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/pendingreview actions pending review
14:30:43 <francois> ACTION-903?
14:30:43 <trackbot> ACTION-903 -- François Daoust to setup a registration poll for next F2F in London -- due 2009-02-03 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:30:43 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/903
14:30:52 <francois> close ACTION-903
14:30:52 <trackbot> ACTION-903 Setup a registration poll for next F2F in London closed
14:31:01 <francois> ACTION-917?
14:31:01 <trackbot> ACTION-917 -- François Daoust to extend the TPAC Noc Questionnaire and add a question to assess whether the meeting would be better attended if it was held somewhere else -- due 2009-03-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:31:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/917
14:31:11 <francois> close ACTION-917
14:31:11 <trackbot> ACTION-917 Extend the TPAC Noc Questionnaire and add a question to assess whether the meeting would be better attended if it was held somewhere else closed
14:32:07 <EdC> TPAC = Technical Plenary Advisory Committee (November in California). Decision pending: whether the group attends or not.
14:32:17 <francois> ACTION-968?
14:32:17 <trackbot> ACTION-968 -- Jo Rabin to add NOT RECOMMENDED to the rfc2119 section of the document -- due 2009-06-16 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:32:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/968
14:32:23 <francois> close ACTION-968
14:32:23 <trackbot> ACTION-968 Add NOT RECOMMENDED to the rfc2119 section of the document closed
14:33:08 <EdC> Any other business?
14:33:36 <EdC> bye
14:33:37 <Zakim> -adam
14:33:40 <Zakim> -francois
14:33:40 <brucel> bye all
14:33:41 <Zakim> -kai
14:33:44 <Zakim> - +41.31.972.aaaa
14:33:51 <Zakim> -SeanP
14:33:52 <Zakim> -??P41
14:33:54 <Zakim> MWI_BPWG()9:30AM has ended
14:33:56 <Zakim> Attendees were tomhume, francois, +41.31.972.aaaa, +1.207.881.aabb, adam, kai, +1.630.414.aacc, SeanP
14:35:33 <francois> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:35:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-bpwg-minutes.html francois
14:36:58 <francois> Present: tomhume, francois, brucel, adam, kai, EdC, SeanP
14:40:28 <francois> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:40:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/11-bpwg-minutes.html francois
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