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19:43:32 <Holger> zakim, this will be INC_SSN 
19:43:32 <Zakim> ok, Holger; I see INC_SSN()4:00PM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
19:43:54 <Holger> Meeting: SSN XG 29-July-2009
19:44:03 <Holger> Chair: Holger
19:44:28 <Holger> Regrets: Simon, John
19:44:43 <Holger> agenda+ Roll call
19:44:55 <Holger> agenda+ Actions from last meeting
19:45:10 <Holger> agenda+ Survey paper
19:45:22 <Holger> agenda+ Next steps in Ontology devel process
19:45:33 <Holger> agenda+ Observation and phenomena ontology review
19:45:40 <Holger> agenda+ Semantic Markup
19:45:48 <Holger> agenda+ MPEG-V
19:45:53 <Holger> agenda?
19:46:24 <Holger> agenda+ AOB
19:48:32 <Holger> agenda?
19:51:38 <Zakim> INC_SSN()4:00PM has now started
19:51:45 <Zakim> + +036232aaaa
19:52:00 <Holger> zakim, +036232aaaa is me.
19:52:00 <Zakim> +Holger; got it
19:53:03 <rgarcia> rgarcia has joined #ssn
19:56:46 <krzysztof_j> krzysztof_j has joined #ssn
19:56:53 <krzysztof_j> hi
19:57:19 <Holger> Hi
19:58:15 <michael> michael has joined #ssn
19:58:22 <michael> hi all
19:58:36 <Zakim> +??P1
19:58:38 <Holger> Hi!
19:59:02 <krp> krp has joined #ssn
19:59:09 <Zakim> +??P2
19:59:23 <michael> zakim, ??P2 is me
19:59:23 <Zakim> +michael; got it
19:59:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:00:10 <Zakim> + +1.206.662.aabb
20:00:15 <rgarcia> zakim, +[IPcaller] is me
20:00:15 <Zakim> sorry, rgarcia, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
20:00:30 <Zakim> + +7.973.76.aacc
20:00:34 <rgarcia> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
20:00:34 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it
20:01:11 <Zakim> + +1.202.408.aadd
20:01:23 <krp> zakim, +7.973.76.aacc is me
20:01:23 <Zakim> +krp; got it
20:01:34 <kelsey> kelsey has joined #ssn
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20:01:55 <victor> hello all
20:02:12 <Holger> Hello!
20:02:18 <Zakim> -??P1
20:02:31 <Holger> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:02:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see Holger, michael, rgarcia, +1.206.662.aabb, krp, +1.202.408.aadd
20:02:39 <Zakim> -krp
20:02:40 <bermudez> bermudez has joined #ssn
20:02:50 <Zakim> +??P1
20:03:08 <Zakim> +[CTIC]
20:03:08 <Zakim> -??P1
20:03:22 <Zakim> -[CTIC]
20:03:32 <Zakim> +??P9
20:03:34 <Zakim> +krp
20:03:35 <Zakim> +??P1
20:03:55 <victor> zakin, CTIC is temporarily me
20:04:03 <victor> zakim, CTIC is temporarily me
20:04:03 <Zakim> sorry, victor, I do not recognize a party named 'CTIC'
20:04:39 <Zakim> -??P9
20:05:00 <Zakim> +[CTIC]
20:05:07 <victor> zakim, CTIC is temporarily me
20:05:07 <Zakim> +victor; got it
20:05:13 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:05:22 <krzysztof_j> zakim, +[IPcaller] is me
20:05:22 <Zakim> sorry, krzysztof_j, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
20:05:44 <krzysztof_j> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
20:05:44 <Zakim> +krzysztof_j; got it
20:06:05 <Holger> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:06:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see Holger, michael, rgarcia, +1.206.662.aabb, +1.202.408.aadd, krp, ??P1, victor, krzysztof_j
20:06:10 <krzysztof_j> zakim, mute me
20:06:10 <Zakim> krzysztof_j should now be muted
20:06:48 <kelsey> 206.662 is me
20:07:01 <krp> zakim, mute me
20:07:01 <Zakim> krp should now be muted
20:07:03 <Holger> agenda?
20:08:28 <krzysztof_j> zakim, unmute me
20:08:28 <Zakim> krzysztof_j should no longer be muted
20:08:53 <krp> zakim, unmute me
20:08:53 <Zakim> krp should no longer be muted
20:09:10 <krp> zakim, mute me
20:09:10 <Zakim> krp should now be muted
20:09:36 <krzysztof_j> zakim, mute me
20:09:36 <Zakim> krzysztof_j should now be muted
20:11:03 <Holger> ScribeNich: michael
20:11:20 <michael> topic: actions from last meeting
20:11:51 <Holger> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Publishing_Incubator_Group_Documents
20:12:00 <michael> Holger: checked license with W3C, summary on wiki 
20:12:31 <Holger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2009Jul/0052.html
20:12:57 <michael> ...John sent email on transferring ontology to mmi
20:14:58 <michael> topic: survey paper
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20:16:01 <michael> Michael: not going fast as would like, due next week, should have a draft to send to list by end of weekend.
20:16:12 <michael> topic: next steps
20:17:15 <Zakim> -??P1
20:17:38 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:17:43 <michael> Action: look at Michael's report on existing ontologies.
20:17:44 <Holger> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/files/MinutesAndOntologyAnalysis.pdf
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20:18:21 <krzysztof_j> zakim, unmute me
20:18:21 <Zakim> krzysztof_j should no longer be muted
20:18:24 <michael> topic: observation and phenomena review
20:19:30 <michael> Krzysztof: has put up page on wiki, same idea as we did for the sensor ontologies (everyone select an ontology and fill out a review)
20:20:18 <michael> ... so far 7 ontologies, not all are observation, some are about phenomena.
20:20:35 <krp> zakim, unmute me
20:20:35 <Zakim> krp should no longer be muted
20:20:51 <michael> ...have review and then decide how to deal with observing phenomena
20:21:29 <krp> zakim, mute me
20:21:29 <Zakim> krp should now be muted
20:21:50 <michael> Holger: timing of review, should organise when Simon Cox can attend.
20:22:01 <michael> +1
20:22:06 <krp> +1 for next week
20:22:10 <Payam_> +1
20:22:11 <Holger> +1
20:22:12 <michael> Holger: Next week?
20:22:15 <rgarcia> +1
20:22:16 <krzysztof_j> +1
20:22:54 <krzysztof_j> cory will also add one ontology more and review it
20:23:14 <Holger> agenda?
20:23:14 <michael> Action: everyone with an interest look at Wiki, sign up for ontology and prepare review for next week. 
20:23:45 <michael> topic: semantic markup
20:24:22 <krzysztof_j> zakim, mute me
20:24:22 <Zakim> krzysztof_j should now be muted
20:24:44 <michael> Luis: no progress at the moment.
20:25:14 <krzysztof_j> ack
20:25:23 <michael> ... (on ontologies) can get a presentation from SWEET
20:25:51 <michael> ... (on ontologies) include sensor ontologies that have an observation component, but no need to review again
20:26:40 <michael> topic: MPEG-V
20:27:03 <michael> Holger: Kerry isn't here.
20:27:31 <michael> topic: AOB
20:28:05 <michael> Luis: is the plan for f2f for presentations, or as a working meeting
20:28:08 <krp> zakim, unmute me
20:28:08 <Zakim> krp should no longer be muted
20:28:21 <michael> +q
20:28:30 <krzysztof_j> ack
20:28:31 <krp> zakim, unmute me
20:28:31 <Zakim> krp was not muted, krp
20:28:38 <krp> zakim, mute me
20:28:38 <Zakim> krp should now be muted
20:29:00 <Holger> ack michael
20:29:39 <michael> Kevin & Michael: agreed
20:30:11 <michael> Holger: no f2f organisers here
20:30:36 <michael> Action: Holger to email Cory to keep space for 'work' available in f2f program
20:31:19 <Zakim> -victor
20:31:20 <krzysztof_j> bye
20:31:22 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
20:31:23 <Zakim> -rgarcia
20:31:24 <krp> bye
20:31:25 <Zakim> -michael
20:31:27 <Zakim> - +1.202.408.aadd
20:31:29 <victor> bye
20:31:34 <Zakim> -Holger
20:31:40 <Zakim> -krp
20:32:12 <Zakim> -krzysztof_j
20:32:23 <Zakim> - +1.206.662.aabb
20:32:24 <Zakim> INC_SSN()4:00PM has ended
20:32:25 <Zakim> Attendees were Holger, michael, +1.206.662.aabb, rgarcia, +1.202.408.aadd, krp, victor, krzysztof_j, [IPcaller]
20:32:26 <michael> zakim, bye
20:32:26 <Zakim> Zakim has left #ssn
20:32:44 <michael> rrsagent, make log public
20:32:56 <michael> rrsagent, draft minutes
20:32:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/29-ssn-minutes.html michael
20:33:09 <michael> rrsagent, bye
20:33:09 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/29-ssn-actions.rdf :
20:33:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: look at Michael's report on existing ontologies. [1]
20:33:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/29-ssn-irc#T20-17-43
20:33:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: everyone with an interest look at Wiki, sign up for ontology and prepare review for next week.  [2]
20:33:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/29-ssn-irc#T20-23-14-1
20:33:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Holger to email Cory to keep space for 'work' available in f2f program [3]
20:33:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/29-ssn-irc#T20-30-36