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15:59:25 <ChrisWilson> Zakim, this will be html
15:59:25 <Zakim> ok, ChrisWilson; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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15:59:54 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:00:36 <ChrisWilson> zakim, microsoft is me
16:00:36 <Zakim> +ChrisWilson; got it
16:00:49 <Zakim> +Julian
16:01:09 <Zakim> +Murray_Maloney
16:01:13 <Zakim> +Laura_Carlson
16:02:15 <Julian> gsnedders, why don't you phone in from wherever you are?
16:02:38 <gsnedders> Julian: I don't think the other people in my office would like it, and I don't have a phone :)
16:02:55 <gsnedders> (Well, I have a British mobile, but I hate to think how much that costs to use whatsoeber)
16:03:07 <Zakim> +??P11
16:03:20 <johndrinkwater> Zakim, I am ??P11
16:03:20 <Zakim> +johndrinkwater; got it
16:03:23 <tinkster> gsnedders: if you phone the bridge in Bristol it's not too pricey.
16:03:38 <Zakim> +??P19
16:03:44 <gsnedders> tinkster: It is, because I am not in Britain.
16:03:51 <tinkster> Ah. Got it.
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16:04:36 <ChrisWilson> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:04:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see ChrisWilson, Julian, Murray_Maloney, Laura_Carlson, johndrinkwater, ??P19
16:04:53 <ChrisWilson> Zakim, P19 is Rob from Intel
16:04:53 <Zakim> I don't understand 'P19 is Rob from Intel', ChrisWilson
16:05:00 <ChrisWilson> Zakim, ??P19 is Rob from Intel
16:05:00 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P19 is Rob from Intel', ChrisWilson
16:05:22 <ChrisWilson> Any action items to add to the agenda?
16:07:30 <ChrisWilson> scribe: ChrisWilson
16:07:36 <ChrisWilson> scribenick: ChrisWilson
16:07:41 <ChrisWilson> chair:ChrisWilson
16:07:46 <ChrisWilson> Action-127?
16:07:46 <trackbot> ACTION-127 -- Chris Wilson to wilson +3 weeks establish process for "official WG response" to other WG's RFC on LC drafts -- due 2009-06-25 -- OPEN
16:07:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/127
16:07:47 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-127 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:08:12 <ChrisWilson> moving out 127 by 2 weeks...
16:09:27 <ChrisWilson> action-128?
16:09:27 <trackbot> ACTION-128 -- Joshue O Connor to draft @summary voting text in conjunction with PF -- due 2009-07-02 -- PENDINGREVIEW
16:09:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/128
16:09:28 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-128 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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16:10:49 <ChrisWilson> Laura: Josh was going to propose text, but we haven't seen it?
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16:11:08 <Zakim> +Masinter
16:12:13 <ChrisWilson> CW: reopened action-128
16:13:06 <Zakim> -johndrinkwater
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16:13:19 <ChrisWilson> action-108?
16:13:19 <trackbot> ACTION-108 -- Larry Masinter to report back on the TAG's work on versioning wrt HTML -- due 2009-07-23 -- OPEN
16:13:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/108
16:13:20 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-108 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:13:39 <ChrisWilson> LM: was expecting new document, but don't have it yet.
16:13:52 <ChrisWilson> LM: should push these back three weeks, post IETF.
16:14:45 <ChrisWilson> LM: on uri draft: on Sunday, released updated version of the IRI document including hrefs; could be referenced by the HTML5 spec.  Want WG to review that.
16:15:29 <ChrisWilson> LM: this is a draft toward a generically useful reference
16:15:31 <Julian> +1
16:15:33 <Julian> +q
16:15:34 <Zakim> +??P7
16:15:42 <johndrinkwater> Zakim, I am ??P7
16:15:42 <Zakim> +johndrinkwater; got it
16:15:48 <MikeSmith> Zakim, please call Mike-Mobile
16:15:48 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:15:50 <Zakim> +Mike
16:16:25 <ChrisWilson> LM: on codec issue, what happens when a better one comes along?
16:16:49 <ChrisWilson> LM: we should address the extensibility issue
16:19:17 <ChrisWilson> Rob: what if we had Ogg OR H.264 required?
16:19:27 <ChrisWilson> CW: that's what I suggested in email last night...
16:20:27 <ChrisWilson> Rob: With H.264 in hardware, it might well be necessary/expected to support anyway...
16:20:48 <ChrisWilson> Larry: if the spec doesn't mandate, then providers have no idea what's available.
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16:21:48 <Julian> feedback on new IRI draft -- was it considered to include the required functionality for HREF into LEIRI (which is an addition compared to RFC3987 anyway)?
16:21:56 <ChrisWilson> LM: it seems like we're going down a path with no negotiation or discovery ability
16:22:10 <ChrisWilson> Rob: isn't there a fallback mechanism?
16:22:12 <ChrisWilson> LM: true
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16:27:04 <ChrisWilson> LM: could the negotiation mechanisms apply to other areas, like object tags/imgs?  This seems related to generic extensibility.
16:28:38 <Julian> q-
16:31:01 <ChrisWilson> Julian: reiterates comments above
16:31:28 <ChrisWilson> LM: it may be the differences are minimal, but not there yet
16:33:22 <ChrisWilson> LM: I wanted to show it's possible to show that it's editorially possible to combine these concepts - it's a starting point
16:33:47 <pimpbot> Title: Ajaxian » HTML5 Video tag implemented in Flash (at ajaxian.com)
16:33:58 <ChrisWilson> action-100?
16:33:58 <trackbot> ACTION-100 -- Michael(tm) Smith to add a note about issue-67 to the Status section of "HTML 5: The Markup Language" -- due 2009-05-28 -- OPEN
16:33:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/100
16:33:59 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-100 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:34:28 <MikeSmith> close action-100
16:34:28 <trackbot> ACTION-100 Add a note about issue-67 to the Status section of "HTML 5: The Markup Language" closed
16:34:52 <ChrisWilson> move to adjourn?
16:34:58 <Zakim> -Masinter
16:35:01 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:35:04 <Zakim> -Julian
16:35:07 <Zakim> -??P19
16:35:08 <Zakim> -ChrisWilson
16:35:09 <Zakim> -Mike
16:35:18 <ChrisWilson> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:35:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/16-html-wg-minutes.html ChrisWilson
16:35:29 <Zakim> -Laura_Carlson
16:36:21 <ChrisWilson> Hey, Mike, I can't get access to the minutes page I just had RRSAgent make...
16:36:24 <Zakim> -johndrinkwater
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16:36:26 <Zakim> Attendees were ChrisWilson, Julian, Murray_Maloney, Laura_Carlson, johndrinkwater, Masinter, Mike, Cynthia_Shelly
16:38:27 <johndrinkwater> think you need to say something like make logs world-access to RRSAgent 
16:38:47 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make log public
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