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16:02:01 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML
16:02:02 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:02:02 <trackbot> Date: 09 July 2009
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16:02:06 <Lachy> Zakim, passcode?
16:02:12 <Zakim> sorry, Lachy, I don't know what conference this is
16:02:16 <DanC> Zakim, this will be HTML
16:02:18 <Zakim> ok, DanC, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:02:20 <Lachy> Zakim, passcode?
16:02:24 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Lachy
16:02:28 <Zakim> +DanC
16:02:32 <Zakim> +Murray_Maloney
16:02:40 <masinter> zakim, who's on the phone
16:02:47 <DanC> Zakim, who's on the phone?
16:02:48 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's on the phone', masinter
16:03:02 <Zakim> + +49.251.280.aaaa
16:03:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, ??P5, Matt_May, Masinter, Murray_Maloney, DanC, +49.251.280.aaaa
16:03:13 <Lachy> Zakim, I am 49.251.280.aaaa
16:03:16 <Julian> Zakim, +49.251.280.aaaa is me
16:03:18 <Zakim> +??P30
16:03:28 <Zakim> sorry, Lachy, I do not see a party named '49.251.280.aaaa'
16:03:34 <Zakim> +Julian; got it
16:03:37 <DanC> Zakim, aaaa is Lachy
16:03:44 <Zakim> + +1.218.340.aabb
16:03:46 <Zakim> sorry, DanC, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
16:03:48 <johndrinkwater> I guess I might be ??P5- no mic though..
16:04:03 <DanC> Topic: Convene, take roll, review agenda
16:04:17 <DanC> Topic: ISSUE-32 (table-summary)
16:04:21 <Lachy> Zakim, I am ??P30
16:04:25 <Zakim> +Lachy; got it
16:04:29 <masinter> i suggest calling this a "straw poll" rather than a "vote"?
16:04:29 <DanC> regrets+ Joshue
16:05:08 <DanC> LMM: i suggest calling this a "straw poll" rather than a "vote"
16:05:40 <Zakim> +??P36
16:05:47 <DanC> DanC: that would make it non-binding
16:06:01 <DanC> LMM: yes, but it would predict the results of a binding vote pretty well
16:06:01 <Stevef> zakim,??P30 is Stevef
16:06:01 <Zakim> I already had ??P30 as Lachy, Stevef
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16:06:31 <Stevef> zakim, ??P36 is Stevef
16:06:31 <Zakim> +Stevef; got it
16:06:48 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike-Mobile
16:06:48 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:06:50 <Laura> +Laura
16:06:50 <Zakim> +Mike
16:06:55 <DanC> DanC: there's a possibility that a vote will be avoided consensus?
16:07:16 <DanC> LMM: but a straw poll would help in any case; it eliminates possibilities that noone supports
16:07:31 <Lachy> I would prefer a straw poll
16:07:42 <DanC> MM: I have my doubts [about a straw poll]
16:07:50 <DanC> Laura: we could do a straw poll and then a vote
16:08:02 <masinter> wouldn't need to review "good standing" of wg members who haven't been active
16:08:33 <DanC> DanC: I think a straw poll is a good idea
16:09:31 <MikeSmith> action-59 due 2009-07-03
16:09:32 <trackbot> ACTION-59 Track progress on edits related to issue-38 style-attr-syntax in section html5/#style0 due date now 2009-07-03
16:09:32 <DanC> MM: on research... I'm in contact with Jutta Trev. [sp?] at [u. toronto?]; perhaps next week I can give more info on usability studies
16:09:41 <MikeSmith> oops
16:09:53 <MikeSmith> issue-59?
16:09:53 <trackbot> ISSUE-59 -- Should the HTML WG produce a separate document that is a normative language reference and if so what are the requirements -- OPEN
16:09:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/59
16:09:54 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-59 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:09:56 <DanC> Topic: ISSUE-59 (normative-language-reference)
16:10:18 <DanC> action-109?
16:10:18 <trackbot> ACTION-109 -- Michael(tm) Smith to hand out work to reviewers of H:TML -- due 2009-06-25 -- OPEN
16:10:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/109
16:10:20 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-109 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:10:33 <MikeSmith> action-109 due 2009-07-23
16:10:33 <trackbot> ACTION-109 hand out work to reviewers of H:TML due date now 2009-07-23
16:10:44 <masinter> question about whether document compliance ("authoring requirements") might be better handled here
16:10:48 <MikeSmith> action-110 due 2009-07-23
16:10:48 <trackbot> ACTION-110 Add note to H:TML draft about what's currently missing and planned to be added due date now 2009-07-23
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16:11:31 <DanC> LMM: there was a bugzilla bug and such about authoring requirements...
16:11:32 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
16:12:32 <DanC> ... whether they belong in the same spec with how-to-build-a-browser...
16:12:39 <DanC> ... so that's something to consider
16:12:50 <DanC> Mike: not much news on my action; moved them back a couple weeks.
16:13:06 <DanC> Topic: ISSUE-60 (html5-xhtml-namespace)
16:13:27 <rubys1> zakim, who is making noise?
16:13:33 <DanC> Sam: I suggest that the recent announcement about the XHTML 2 WG addresses my action
16:13:38 <Zakim> rubys1, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sam (19%), Murray_Maloney (19%)
16:13:50 <DanC> close ACTION-105
16:13:50 <trackbot> ACTION-105 Should arrange a meeting between chairs of HTML WG and XHTML2 WG to ensure there is a plan for coordination of vocabularies to avoid incompatibilities. closed
16:14:03 <Lachy> yes, close this issue
16:14:34 <DanC> LMM: there may be some follow-up
16:14:55 <Lachy> XHTML 2.0 will end life as a WG NOTE
16:15:04 <DanC> MM: does this announcement mean XHTLM 2.0 won't be produced?
16:15:09 <DanC> Sam: I expect it'll become a Note
16:15:46 <Julian> q+
16:16:08 <DanC> ack Julian 
16:16:09 <MikeSmith> ack Julian 
16:16:25 <DanC> Julian: if XHTML 2 is published as a Note, which namespace woudl it use?
16:16:40 <DanC> Lachy: It won't matter, as a Note isn't something people are likely to deploy/implement
16:17:54 <DanC> MM: I'm a little confused... HTML 5 uses which namespace?
16:19:03 <DanC> MM: does W3C have namespace policies?
16:19:07 <Lachy> I suppose someone could take an ISSUE to contact the XHTML-WG and ask that their work be published as a NOTE using the previously used 2002/02/xhtml2 (I think) namespace from older working drafts
16:19:08 <DanC> DanC: yes
16:19:20 <Lachy> s/an ISSUE/an ACTION/
16:19:31 <DanC> MM: is there a missing policy?
16:20:54 <DanC> DanC: I don't think so; I think what we need re this issue is done; there were 2 WGs specifying the /1999/xhtml namespace and now there's one
16:21:22 <masinter> Murray is still concerned about the continuity of the xhtml namespace
16:21:42 <masinter> I will take an action item in 2 weeks to insure that the versioning discussion at least touches on this
16:21:43 <masinter> OK?
16:22:09 <DanC> ACTION: Larry  insure that the versioning discussion at least touches on XHTML 2 interactions with the /1999/xhtml namespace
16:22:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-129 -  insure that the versioning discussion at least touches on XHTML 2 interactions with the /1999/xhtml namespace [on Larry Masinter - due 2009-07-16].
16:22:19 <DanC> action-129 due 23 July
16:22:19 <trackbot> ACTION-129 insure that the versioning discussion at least touches on XHTML 2 interactions with the /1999/xhtml namespace due date now 23 July
16:22:20 <masinter> i think there needs to be another action to review any "Note" that comes out about XHTML2 to make sure that it doesn't contain text redefining 1999/xhtml incompatibily
16:23:01 <Lachy> Murray, XHTML5 retains compatibility with existing XHTML 1.0 namespaced documents.
16:23:02 <masinter> this 'issue' was an administrative one, there's likely a technical one too
16:23:36 <DanC> MM: I'm concerned that if HTML 5 use the /1999/xhtml namespace it'll upset compatibility expectations
16:24:14 <DanC> Sam: if HTML 5 used a different namespace it would break existing content on the web
16:24:41 <DanC> Topic: ISSUE-63 (origin-req-scope)
16:24:44 <MikeSmith> action-96?
16:24:44 <trackbot> ACTION-96 -- Henri Sivonen to to ensure editor removes Origin header: from spec -- due 2009-07-08 -- OPEN
16:24:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/96
16:24:45 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-96 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:24:55 <DanC> Topic: ISSUE-4 (html-versioning)
16:25:38 <DanC> LMM: the TAG discussed this in a recent ftf... [see www-tag for minutes]... I expect the document discussed will be revised w.r.t. that discussion...
16:26:23 <DanC> ... my hope was to relate some well-understood principles to the doctype/versioning issue... I'm optimistic
16:27:00 <DanC> ACTION-108 due 23 July
16:27:00 <trackbot> ACTION-108 Report back on the TAG's work on versioning wrt HTML due date now 23 July
16:27:35 <DanC> Topic: ISSUE-35 (aria-processing)
16:27:50 <DanC> Cynthia: we put out a WD 8 Jun
16:27:51 <DanC> q+
16:28:10 <DanC> ... things are on track...
16:28:23 <DanC> ... I have a TF participant from Opera; still hoping for particpation from Apple
16:28:31 <DanC> acton-114 due 1 Aug
16:29:03 <DanC> Cynthia: the draft is "aria implementation guide"
16:29:54 <masinter> (re versioning, TAG discussed it at its F2F meeting, http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-agenda.html, based on document  http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/versioning-html/versioning-html-20090611.html ). Minutes forthcoming, but update to document based on discussion should be out in 2 weeks
16:29:55 <pimpbot> Title: About http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-agenda.html (at www.w3.org)
16:30:13 <DanC> DanC: does the draft have examples, sorta seeds of test cases?
16:30:20 <DanC> Cynthia: perhaps... it does have some examples
16:30:45 <DanC> ack danc
16:31:09 <DanC> Topic: TPAC 2009 admin
16:31:48 <DanC> Mike: I did it... interested to know if the chairs are OK with it
16:31:54 <DanC> Sam: OK by me; go ahead
16:32:00 <DanC> [pointer?]
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16:32:16 <DanC> action-115?
16:32:16 <trackbot> ACTION-115 -- Michael(tm) Smith to set up WBS for HTML WG participants to attend HTML WG f2f during TPAC 2009 -- due 2009-05-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW
16:32:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/115
16:32:17 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-115 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:32:18 <MikeSmith> action-115?
16:32:18 <trackbot> ACTION-115 -- Michael(tm) Smith to set up WBS for HTML WG participants to attend HTML WG f2f during TPAC 2009 -- due 2009-05-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW
16:32:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/115
16:32:34 <DanC> draft seems to be http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/2009-11-f2f/
16:32:35 <Zakim> -Murray_Maloney
16:32:58 <MikeSmith> DanC, yep
16:33:22 <DanC> action-123 due 23 July
16:33:23 <trackbot> ACTION-123 Discuss choice of embedding vcard microdata instead of referencing IETF spec and defining conformance reqs for HTML5 due date now 23 July
16:34:11 <DanC> Topic: URI/URL issue @@
16:34:15 <masinter> action-125?
16:34:15 <trackbot> ACTION-125 -- Julian Reschke to coordinate with LMM and DanC to get an Internet Draft that addresses some HTML 5 href issues -- due 2009-07-02 -- OPEN
16:34:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/125
16:34:17 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-125 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:34:44 <DanC> Julian: we're organizing a BOF at the next IETF, and Larry is working on updating the IRI spec
16:35:40 <DanC> Larry: I started from the IRI spec, thinking this is a new protocol element, separate from IRIs and and LEIRIs, but I think this [?] is a change to the mapping from IRI to URI...
16:36:09 <DanC> ... but I think the mapping needs another parameter, i.e. the encoding of the document character set, which defaults to utf-8...
16:36:30 <DanC> ... also, space handling should be tweaked...
16:36:55 <Julian> q+
16:37:28 <Julian> q-
16:37:39 <DanC> (yup, sounds right to me)
16:38:01 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:38:09 <DanC> Larry: that's the design I have in mind ... I haven't gotten around to soliciting review by email
16:38:50 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
16:39:33 <DanC> Julian: hmm... that's not the case in Atom documents... have to be careful about that default
16:39:38 <DanC> Larry: ah; right... yes.
16:40:08 <Julian> (need to be careful about to which document formats the new encoding consderations apply - HTML5 would, Atom not (?))
16:40:20 <DanC> ACTION-125 due 1 Aug
16:40:20 <trackbot> ACTION-125 Coordinate with LMM and DanC to get an Internet Draft that addresses some HTML 5 href issues due date now 1 Aug
16:41:12 <DanC> Topic: Overdue actions
16:41:25 <DanC> ACTION-38 due 30 July
16:41:25 <trackbot> ACTION-38 Chairs to review need for amending charter with Director due date now 30 July
16:41:32 <DanC> Sam that was pending on the XHTML 2 stuff.
16:42:31 <DanC> Topic: ISSUE-7 video-codecs
16:44:04 <masinter> DanC: two minds, like image -- don't need to spec it, other hand, might be important
16:44:17 <masinter> q+
16:45:21 <DanC> LMM: I think the factors affecting the choice of codec are largely outside the control of this WG: perceptions about licensing, quality, etc. ...
16:45:45 <DanC> ... I'm more concerned with the perception that some decision got made when it didn't
16:46:07 <DanC> ... my suggestion is: the issue is still open...
16:47:53 <DanC> LMM: one idea is a note on the small number of choices and why we haven't chosen
16:48:40 <Zakim> +Shepazu
16:49:16 <DanC> LMM: is it possible to move the <video> tag to a separate document, with its own schedule?
16:49:43 <DanC> Sam: I'm interested in volunteers
16:50:17 <DanC> DanC: video is feature #1 in community discussion of HTML 5; separating its schedule would be a challenge
16:50:41 <DanC> Sam: I'm calling for volunteers to take an active position on this issue; Ian has stated his.
16:51:18 <DanC> Sam: I note Rob Sayer's start
16:51:38 <DanC> ACTION: Sam review status of video codec positions
16:51:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-130 - Review status of video codec positions [on Sam Ruby - due 2009-07-16].
16:51:46 <DanC> action-130 due 30 July
16:51:46 <trackbot> ACTION-130 Review status of video codec positions due date now 30 July
16:51:59 <Julian> q+
16:52:03 <masinter> q-
16:52:04 <DanC> Cynthia: a deadline helps some people
16:52:12 <DanC> ack next
16:52:57 <DanC> Julian: the diff between April and the current draft is that he took out the "it would be nice..." [requirements] text. The actual text to remove the Theora codec was a year ago or so.
16:53:12 <Stevef> q+
16:54:08 <rubys1> zakim, who is making noise?
16:54:13 <DanC> Julian: I'm not sure why the statement of desired codec was removed
16:54:16 <Julian> the text that was removed recently is: http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-html5-20090423/video.html#video-and-audio-codecs-for-video-elements
16:54:17 <pimpbot> Title: HTML 5 (at www.w3.org)
16:54:19 <Zakim> rubys1, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Masinter (41%), +1.218.340.aabb (5%)
16:54:22 <shepazu> Zakim, who's noisy?
16:54:27 <Julian> Zakim, who's making noise
16:54:27 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's making noise', Julian
16:54:29 <DanC> Zakim, mute aabb
16:54:29 <Zakim> +1.218.340.aabb should now be muted
16:54:33 <Zakim> shepazu, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sam (15%), Cynthia_Shelly (25%), Masinter (9%), Julian (14%), Stevef (52%)
16:54:39 <DanC> Zakim, unmute aabb
16:54:39 <Zakim> +1.218.340.aabb should no longer be muted
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16:56:28 <Julian> Rob's mail: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jul/0267.html
16:56:29 <pimpbot> Title: proposed audio/video codec text from Rob Sayre on 2009-07-07 (public-html@w3.org from July 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
16:56:41 <DanC> Doug: didn't Rob S. already take a position?
16:56:45 <masinter> q+
16:56:53 <DanC> Sam: I read it as a "what if...?" sort of thing but I'll check
16:56:57 <DanC> Zakim, who's noisy?
16:57:06 <DanC> ack next
16:57:10 <Zakim> DanC, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sam (6%), Cynthia_Shelly (23%), Stevef (66%)
16:57:58 <DanC> SteveF: I'd like canvas accessibility to be a tracker action
16:58:02 <DanC> (er... issue)
16:58:14 <Laura> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/AddedElementCanvas
16:58:17 <pimpbot> Title: HTML/AddedElementCanvas - ESW Wiki (at esw.w3.org)
16:58:26 <DanC> issue: canvas accessibility
16:58:27 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-74 - Canvas accessibility ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/74/edit .
16:58:41 <DanC> issue-74: see also http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/AddedElementCanvas
16:58:41 <trackbot> ISSUE-74 Canvas accessibility notes added
16:58:44 <pimpbot> Title: HTML/AddedElementCanvas - ESW Wiki (at esw.w3.org)
16:58:55 <DanC> ACTION: Stevef report on canvas accessibility
16:58:55 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Stevef
16:59:19 <rubys1> ack stevef
16:59:32 <DanC> ack next
16:59:39 <masinter> q-
16:59:43 <DanC> ack next
16:59:48 <pimpbot> planet: Which browser has the best support for HTML 5 currently? <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/150577/which-browser-has-the-best-support-for-html-5-currently>
17:00:12 <DanC> Topic: ISSUE-31 (missing-alt)
17:00:24 <DanC> issue-31?
17:00:24 <trackbot> ISSUE-31 -- What to do when a reasonable text equivalent is unknown/unavailable? -- OPEN
17:00:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/31
17:00:25 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-31 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:00:32 <DanC> Cynthia: what happened to the change request?
17:00:39 <DanC> [anybody got a pointer to the change request?]
17:01:33 <Zakim> -??P5
17:01:52 <Laura> WAI CG Consensus Resolutions on Text alternatives in HTML 5
17:01:59 <Laura> http://www.w3.org/2009/06/Text-Alternatives-in-HTML5
17:02:00 <pimpbot> Title: WAI CG Consensus Resolutions on Text alternatives in HTML 5 (at www.w3.org)
17:02:35 <Lachy> Is this the WAI CG mail being discussed? http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Jun/0070.html
17:02:37 <pimpbot> Title: WAI-CG Consensus Recommendations on Alternative Text in HTML 5 from Janina Sajka on 2009-06-11 (www-archive@w3.org from June 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
17:02:48 <DanC> Cynthia: what's the process for getting traction on this?
17:02:51 <Lachy> --> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Jun/att-0070/Text-Alternatives-in-HTML5.html
17:02:52 <pimpbot> Title: WAI CG Consensus Resolutions on Text alternatives in HTML 5 (at lists.w3.org)
17:03:05 <DanC> Sam: I'll try to clarify by email...
17:04:19 <DanC> ... I'm working with people getting CVS access, helping them produce documents...
17:04:42 <Lachy> It appears that that WAI CG text alternatives document was never sent to the HTML WG, only to www-archive and wai-xtech
17:04:43 <DanC> Cynthia: the document WAI produced is more of a requirements list
17:04:56 <DanC> SteveF: I'm interested to write the design part
17:05:01 <Lachy> ... so I'm not surprised the HTMLWG haven't done anything with it
17:05:12 <DanC> good point, Lachy
17:05:38 <DanC> action: steve draft ALT spec
17:05:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-131 - Draft ALT spec [on Steve Faulkner - due 2009-07-16].
17:06:04 <DanC> action-131 due 7 Sep
17:06:04 <trackbot> ACTION-131 Draft ALT spec due date now 7 Sep
17:06:07 <Laura> I'll help with it Steve.
17:06:35 <Zakim> -Lachy
17:06:37 <DanC> ADJOURN.
17:06:38 <Zakim> -Julian
17:06:39 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
17:06:41 <Zakim> -Sam
17:06:41 <Zakim> -Matt_May
17:06:42 <Zakim> -Masinter
17:06:50 <DanC> ACTION: Stevef report on canvas accessibility
17:06:50 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Stevef
17:06:54 <DanC> ACTION: Steve report on canvas accessibility
17:06:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-132 - Report on canvas accessibility [on Steve Faulkner - due 2009-07-16].
17:06:55 <Zakim> -Mike
17:06:55 <Stevef> lachy: it was forwarded to the html wg list by shelley powers (i think)
17:06:57 <Zakim> -Shepazu
17:07:03 <DanC> action-132 due 23 July
17:07:04 <trackbot> ACTION-132 Report on canvas accessibility due date now 23 July
17:07:41 <Laura> Zakim, aabb is Laura
17:07:41 <Zakim> +Laura; got it
17:08:00 <Laura> bye
17:08:03 <Zakim> -Laura
17:08:10 <Zakim> -DanC
17:08:17 <Lachy> Stevef, ok. I must have missed it. But for future reference, please make sure the WAI CG actually sends feedback to public-html if they intend us to do something abou tit
17:09:01 <Stevef> forwarded 11th june http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jun/0391.html
17:09:02 <pimpbot> Title: forwarding: WAI CG Consensus Resolutions on Text alternatives in HTML 5 from Shelley Powers on 2009-06-11 (public-html@w3.org from June 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
17:09:57 <Stevef> lachy: janina missed putting the html wg on the list, i am sure she meant to as it was directed to the HTML WG
17:10:45 <Zakim> -Stevef
17:10:47 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
17:10:48 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, Matt_May, Masinter, DanC, Murray_Maloney, Julian, +1.218.340.aabb, Lachy, Stevef, Mike, Cynthia_Shelly, Shepazu, Laura
17:13:28 <MikeSmith> jobs
17:13:30 <DanC> sam, I wonder if your summary actions should be closed; they seem a little misleading
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17:15:22 <DanC> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:15:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/09-html-wg-minutes.html DanC
17:15:40 <DanC> RRSAgent, make logs world-access
17:15:53 <DanC> chair: Sam
17:20:00 <DanC> action-114 due 1 Aug
17:20:00 <trackbot> ACTION-114 Report progress on ARIA TF due date now 1 Aug
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19:00:22 <pimpbot> planet: HTML 5 - Early Adoption Where Possible - Good or Bad? <11http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1016515/html-5-early-adoption-where-possible-good-or-bad>
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19:16:39 <DanC> RRSAgent, draft minutes
19:16:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/09-html-wg-minutes.html DanC
19:16:41 <pimpbot> Title: HTML Weekly Teleconference -- 09 Jul 2009 (at www.w3.org)
19:16:59 <DanC> RRSAgent, start
19:17:01 <DanC> chair: Sam
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