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<trackbot> Date: 08 July 2009
<scribe> Scribe: Steven
Steven: I'm here next week, then gone for 3 weeks
Tina: gone 15-22 Aug
Markus: Similar to yours Steven
Shane: We don't do holidays
... If Alessio and Gregory are around then we might meet
Markus: What about MoZ?
Steven: Don't know
Markus: It would be good to know if we can count on him for the PERs
Steven: I'll ping him
<ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/#xhtml12
<mib_jwbt7mba> hi
hi, who are you?
<Simosito> I'm an Italian webmaster. Is this channel about using xhtml for webpages?
no
it is about designing markup languages
<Tina> Simosito: you might want irc.freenode.net and the #web channel.
Shane: We have to produce notes
of everything on our drafts page
... that includes XHTML 1.2
... so I'll turn that into a note
<Simosito> Thank you Tina, but I can't use freenode. Sorry for disturbing you.
Shane: that will give people using WAI ARIA something to validate against
Markus: I would love to see
RelaxNG versions as well
... can we do informative versions?
Shane: Sure, as a note
... in fact, I may already have done it
Steven: looking at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-xhtml12-20081223/doctype.html#s_doctype
<ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to produce RelaxNG implementations for XHTML 1.1, XHTML Print, XHTML Basic 1.1, and XHTML + RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-xhtml-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Produce RelaxNG implementations for XHTML 1.1, XHTML Print, XHTML Basic 1.1, and XHTML + RDFa [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-07-15].
Steven: It links to WAI ARIA, but
the reference is missing
... role and access references are missing too
<ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to update the XHTML 1.2 draft to correct the references and ensure the schema implementations are up to date. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Update the XHTML 1.2 draft to correct the references and ensure the schema implementations are up to date. [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-07-15].
<ShaneM> ACTION: Shane convert ALL rec-track drafts to notes by 2009-12-31 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/08-xhtml-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Convert ALL rec-track drafts to notes by 2009-12-31 [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-07-15].
Shane: I'm disappointed about
XHTML 1.0
... appendix C is wildly out of date
... and really needs to be updated
... is there anything we can do about that?
Steven: I don't think so
Shane: There are still some updates to make to that note, comments from the public, typo's etc
Steven: At least notes are lower hurdle to produce
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/bjoern-issues.html
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/bjoern-issues.html#ISSUE14
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/meeting/2009-06-24#__40_lang
Subtopic: @lang (again)
Shane: Is he asking for anything
here? Do we need to say anything?
... our rationale is perfectly good
... if he's claiming that we want to reintroduce it to support
text/html then that is not the case
Steven: You're right, we were asked to do this, we agree
Shane: We say helps assistive
technologies; how is that wrong???
... so we don't need to change anything
Subtopic: @usemap
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/bjoern-issues.html#ISSUE15
Steven: The trouble is, this is
against a different spec, right?
... Masayasu tested this against browsers long ago
... we aid we would support what that revealed
... but the change has to be made in M12N, not 1.1
Shane: We made a conscious decision at sometime to leave this as is
<ShaneM> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues
http://www.w3.org/People/mimasa/test/imagemap/results
Shane: It is a bug that it includes a #, but it is one that needs to be fixed
Steven: then we have to fix
M12N
... M12N 1.1 needs fixing
... and the FAQ doesn't mention that
... unless that's what they mean by M12N 1.0 2e
Shane: We would break M12N rules to change the datatype
Steven: We have to leave this as
is, and explain why
... this is a bug against M12N, not XHTML 1.1
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