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13:07:08 <ericP> RRSAgent, please dial ericP-office
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13:07:26 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
13:07:26 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
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13:07:56 <ericP> scribenick: ericP
13:08:14 <ericP> vipul: Rachel gave talk at AMIA -- big success
13:08:31 <ericP> ... also submitted for anual symposium and @@1
13:08:42 <ericP> ... Helen is sketching out patient privacy
13:08:45 <Zakim> +Kei_Cheung
13:08:49 <ericP> ... need to coord with John Madden
13:09:25 <ericP> ... patient privacy crosses task forces
13:10:15 <ericP> ericP: we were supposed to have sent an abstract a month before
13:10:58 <ericP> Susie: and other tracks, like in-use?
13:11:22 <ericP> ericP: in-use seemed to be (according to the chair) more deployed stuff
13:11:44 <ericP> vipul: i expect security/policy will get a life of its own
13:11:55 <ericP> ... (just by the size of it)
13:12:21 <ericP> ... i would be participating from the payer perspective
13:12:42 <ericP> ... key issue is rallying the momentum
13:13:07 <ericP> susie: so ericP's techy presentation during the main call was related
13:13:27 <ericP> vipul: like with COI, we need to give ericP real use cases to give them more impact
13:13:43 <ericP> susie: CIO of lilly is interested, but timing was off for the call
13:14:03 <ericP> ... he was meant to be writing use cases, worth prodding him
13:14:29 <ericP> mscottm: COI has a great demo for pharma
13:15:21 <ericP> vipul: it would be great to make sure everyone can use the demo
13:16:06 <ericP> mscottm: i've been focusing my 1.5min demo on AIDA, but should demo COI
13:16:24 <ericP> ... any chance of getting an intrest group note out?
13:16:48 <ericP> vipul: good point, with feedback, questions from the audience...
13:18:19 <ericP> ACTION: Susie to forward relevent invites to adrian sechum
13:18:32 <ericP> topic: Terminology [JohnM]
13:19:01 <ericP> John: SKOS on a bit of a haietus (SP?)
13:19:16 <ericP> ... but progress with mscottm which i haven't seen
13:19:28 <ericP> ... interest and progress on privacy front
13:20:11 <ericP> ... we have permission to reveal some of our patient pathology data via d2r if we have appropriate protection
13:20:33 <ericP> ... have to install ericP's software and hook it up to our database
13:20:59 <ericP> ... did a poster at AMIA spring meeting in Orlando
13:21:12 <ericP> ... big emphasis on GRDDL and transforms
13:21:28 <ericP> ... attendance was thin -- only got attention from Peter Elkin
13:22:20 <ericP> ... Rachel said that kent spackman and ohter ihdo folks are releasing an OWL-ized version of SNOMED
13:23:21 <ericP> ericP: would be good to connect Peter @@2 (Kaiser) with IHDO initiative
13:23:45 <ericP> Susie: a paper with pro's (above) and con's (from JohnM) would be good
13:24:23 <ericP> JohnM: HHS secretary asked a bunch of us to write a use cases in pathology white paper
13:24:57 <ericP> ... Mary Kennedy and I wrote up the paper. in editing cycle now
13:25:31 <ericP> ... tried to emphasize the benefits of common identifiers in health care field, specifically IRIs
13:25:41 <ericP> ... + chapter on SNOMED and OWL
13:25:53 <ericP> ... + chapter on higher levels of interop
13:26:06 <ericP> ... can consider it a contribution of W3C
13:26:24 <ericP> mscottm: at f2f, harold solbrig showed interest
13:26:46 <ericP> JohnM: expect he's really busy, need to chase him down
13:27:00 <ericP> mscottm: randy raymond right called once
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13:27:38 <mscottm> http://ii4sm.com/
13:27:49 <ericP> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:27:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/06-hclschairs-minutes.html ericP
13:27:56 <mscottm> http://hcls.deri.org/coi/demo/
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13:28:28 <ericP> mscottm: if folks remember other folks like these, let's put them in a list
13:29:17 <ericP> ericP has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2009/07/06-hclschairs-minutes
13:29:28 <ericP> topic: BioRDF [kei]
13:29:48 <mscottm> DILS
13:29:50 <ericP> kei: Data Integration in Life Science paper submitted
13:29:56 <mscottm> Data Integration in the Life Sciences
13:30:02 <ericP> ... collab between LODD and BioRDF task forces
13:30:10 <ericP> ... submitted a poster
13:30:30 <ericP> ... ania, june, matthias have been working on this poster
13:30:47 <ericP> ... converted the @@3 database into RDF
13:31:00 <ericP> ... june will release it when it's clean
13:31:08 <ericP> ... couple weeks before the deadline arrives
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13:32:07 <mscottm> huajun chen
13:32:34 <ericP> ... hujun chen's keen to integrate western med data and easter herbal
13:33:16 <ericP> ... hard for him to participate (time zone) - may need to accomodate
13:33:30 <ericP> ... </update on TCM>
13:33:43 <ericP> ... considering extension of Query Federation
13:34:00 <ericP> ... have a paper BioInformatics - editor is working on it
13:34:09 <ericP> ... don't have final pub date
13:34:30 <ericP> ... could continue with more data
13:34:43 <ericP> ... discussed image data, microarray data...
13:35:08 <ericP> ... can also consider upper-level meta-data to guide query federation
13:35:25 <ericP> ... in our last attempted, we hard-coded the query plan
13:35:57 <ericP> ... so extensions could use meta-data to generate that plan automatically
13:36:15 <ericP> ... can extend AIDA or FeDeRate to use this meta-data
13:36:51 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
13:36:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Scott_Marshall, +1.609.730.aaaa, +1.860.226.aabb, John_Madden, EricP, Kei_Cheung
13:36:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see johnM, mscottm, RRSAgent, ericP, Zakim
13:37:29 <ericP> mscottm: do you see opportunites for an interest group note?
13:37:43 <ericP> kei: perhaps in terms of query federation
13:39:43 <ericP> ericP: i expet that most fora don't want papers to have dual-submission so may have to choose between IG note vs. peer-reviewed paper
13:40:00 <ericP> mscottm: hclskb note is a counter-example
13:40:38 <ericP> topic: LODD
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13:41:29 <ericP> Susie: workign with jun and anya to add TCM data source
13:41:54 <ericP> ... also working on Slider
13:42:05 <ericP> ... have the joint poster with BioRDF at DILS
13:42:19 <ericP> ... working on a paper for iTriplify challenge
13:42:37 <ericP> ... Bosse and I [Susie] working on the use case
13:42:58 <ericP> ... e.g. what drug targets do these herbs work against vs. conventional medication
13:43:17 <ericP> ... e.g. comparing side-effects
13:43:35 <ericP> topic: translational medicine ont
13:44:02 <ericP> ... goal was to create this high-level domain which one could plug data into so we could ask questions
13:44:51 <ericP> ... based upon the questions, we have 113 entities that could be in the ont -- weeding out duplications and subtle overlaps (e.g. compound vs. entire drug)
13:45:10 <ericP> ... we're defining used cases in Xgenomics
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13:46:46 <ericP> ... once we select a use case, we'll roll out a demo based on those use cases
13:47:00 <ericP> ... so we're likely to want to include some pharma data
13:47:14 <ericP> topic: scientific discourse
13:47:30 <ericP> timC: lots of side collaborations
13:48:34 <ericP> ... paolo and alex will be posting IG notes for SWAN/SIOC integration
13:48:54 <ericP> ... expect to talk with peter buckingham about it
13:49:07 <ericP> ... now discussing the semantics of annotation
13:49:19 <ericP> ... e.g. asserted links to terminology
13:49:27 <ericP> ... need to be open and available in RDF as well
13:49:44 <ericP> ... working with mary ann martone on aligning with the model
13:50:02 <ericP> mscottm: touches with matthias's work on aTags
13:50:19 <ericP> ... other tasks where annotation is the next step
13:50:33 <ericP> ... want to create different provenance models when you create the annotation
13:50:45 <ericP> ... e.g. who said it when
13:51:36 <ericP> timC: would be interested to work on this as a joint task
13:52:09 <ericP> ... depends on where matthias wants to work on aTags
13:52:52 <ericP> ... i think matthias is cautious about getting to theoretical
13:54:45 <ericP> mscottm: need to find out if matthias is intersted in the non-manual annotations (or stuff supplied by wikiprofessional)
13:54:57 <ericP> kei: can we integrate this with federation
13:55:12 <ericP> timC: our core job is to get the model right
13:55:22 <ericP> ... then folks can apply what ever processing they want
13:55:42 <ericP> ... my interest is semi-automatic annotation of web content
13:55:53 <ericP> mscottm: one unifying app would be:
13:56:02 <ericP> ... .. create an aTag
13:57:11 <ericP> ... .. federate that with the SWAN data so you can view it as an assertion by the asserter
13:57:40 <ericP> timC: i think there a few intersting apps
13:57:56 <ericP> ... would like to create an uber-task around september
13:58:07 <ericP> topic: TPAC
13:58:29 <ericP> ... 2-6 Nov in Santa Clara
13:59:25 <ericP> ... we meet 2-3 Nov
13:59:37 <ericP> ... need agendas from the task force leads
14:00:42 <ericP> ... captured the main ideas for future work on the wiki (6 bullets)
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14:02:33 <ericP> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:02:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/06-hclschairs-minutes.html ericP
14:06:44 <ericP> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:06:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/06-hclschairs-minutes.html ericP
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