IRC log of hclschairs on 2009-07-06

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13:07:08 [ericP]

RRSAgent, please dial ericP-office

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I'm logging. I don't understand 'please dial ericP-office', ericP. Try /msg RRSAgent help

13:07:26 [ericP]

Zakim, please dial ericP-office

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ok, ericP; the call is being made

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+EricP

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scribenick: ericP

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vipul: Rachel gave talk at AMIA -- big success

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... also submitted for anual symposium and @@1

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... Helen is sketching out patient privacy

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+Kei_Cheung

13:08:49 [ericP]

... need to coord with John Madden

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... patient privacy crosses task forces

13:10:15 [ericP]

ericP: we were supposed to have sent an abstract a month before

13:10:58 [ericP]

Susie: and other tracks, like in-use?

13:11:22 [ericP]

ericP: in-use seemed to be (according to the chair) more deployed stuff

13:11:44 [ericP]

vipul: i expect security/policy will get a life of its own

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... (just by the size of it)

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... i would be participating from the payer perspective

13:12:42 [ericP]

... key issue is rallying the momentum

13:13:07 [ericP]

susie: so ericP's techy presentation during the main call was related

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vipul: like with COI, we need to give ericP real use cases to give them more impact

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susie: CIO of lilly is interested, but timing was off for the call

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... he was meant to be writing use cases, worth prodding him

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mscottm: COI has a great demo for pharma

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vipul: it would be great to make sure everyone can use the demo

13:16:06 [ericP]

mscottm: i've been focusing my 1.5min demo on AIDA, but should demo COI

13:16:24 [ericP]

... any chance of getting an intrest group note out?

13:16:48 [ericP]

vipul: good point, with feedback, questions from the audience...

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ACTION: Susie to forward relevent invites to adrian sechum

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topic: Terminology [JohnM]

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John: SKOS on a bit of a haietus (SP?)

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... but progress with mscottm which i haven't seen

13:19:28 [ericP]

... interest and progress on privacy front

13:20:11 [ericP]

... we have permission to reveal some of our patient pathology data via d2r if we have appropriate protection

13:20:33 [ericP]

... have to install ericP's software and hook it up to our database

13:20:59 [ericP]

... did a poster at AMIA spring meeting in Orlando

13:21:12 [ericP]

... big emphasis on GRDDL and transforms

13:21:28 [ericP]

... attendance was thin -- only got attention from Peter Elkin

13:22:20 [ericP]

... Rachel said that kent spackman and ohter ihdo folks are releasing an OWL-ized version of SNOMED

13:23:21 [ericP]

ericP: would be good to connect Peter @@2 (Kaiser) with IHDO initiative

13:23:45 [ericP]

Susie: a paper with pro's (above) and con's (from JohnM) would be good

13:24:23 [ericP]

JohnM: HHS secretary asked a bunch of us to write a use cases in pathology white paper

13:24:57 [ericP]

... Mary Kennedy and I wrote up the paper. in editing cycle now

13:25:31 [ericP]

... tried to emphasize the benefits of common identifiers in health care field, specifically IRIs

13:25:41 [ericP]

... + chapter on SNOMED and OWL

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... + chapter on higher levels of interop

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... can consider it a contribution of W3C

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mscottm: at f2f, harold solbrig showed interest

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JohnM: expect he's really busy, need to chase him down

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mscottm: randy raymond right called once

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http://ii4sm.com/

13:27:49 [ericP]

RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/06-hclschairs-minutes.html ericP

13:27:56 [mscottm]

http://hcls.deri.org/coi/demo/

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mscottm: if folks remember other folks like these, let's put them in a list

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ericP has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2009/07/06-hclschairs-minutes

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topic: BioRDF [kei]

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DILS

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kei: Data Integration in Life Science paper submitted

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Data Integration in the Life Sciences

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... collab between LODD and BioRDF task forces

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... submitted a poster

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... ania, june, matthias have been working on this poster

13:30:47 [ericP]

... converted the @@3 database into RDF

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... june will release it when it's clean

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... couple weeks before the deadline arrives

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13:32:07 [mscottm]

huajun chen

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... hujun chen's keen to integrate western med data and easter herbal

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... hard for him to participate (time zone) - may need to accomodate

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... </update on TCM>

13:33:43 [ericP]

... considering extension of Query Federation

13:34:00 [ericP]

... have a paper BioInformatics - editor is working on it

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... don't have final pub date

13:34:30 [ericP]

... could continue with more data

13:34:43 [ericP]

... discussed image data, microarray data...

13:35:08 [ericP]

... can also consider upper-level meta-data to guide query federation

13:35:25 [ericP]

... in our last attempted, we hard-coded the query plan

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... so extensions could use meta-data to generate that plan automatically

13:36:15 [ericP]

... can extend AIDA or FeDeRate to use this meta-data

13:36:51 [ericP]

Zakim, who is here?

13:36:51 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Scott_Marshall, +1.609.730.aaaa, +1.860.226.aabb, John_Madden, EricP, Kei_Cheung

13:36:53 [Zakim]

On IRC I see johnM, mscottm, RRSAgent, ericP, Zakim

13:37:29 [ericP]

mscottm: do you see opportunites for an interest group note?

13:37:43 [ericP]

kei: perhaps in terms of query federation

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ericP: i expet that most fora don't want papers to have dual-submission so may have to choose between IG note vs. peer-reviewed paper

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mscottm: hclskb note is a counter-example

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topic: LODD

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13:41:29 [ericP]

Susie: workign with jun and anya to add TCM data source

13:41:54 [ericP]

... also working on Slider

13:42:05 [ericP]

... have the joint poster with BioRDF at DILS

13:42:19 [ericP]

... working on a paper for iTriplify challenge

13:42:37 [ericP]

... Bosse and I [Susie] working on the use case

13:42:58 [ericP]

... e.g. what drug targets do these herbs work against vs. conventional medication

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... e.g. comparing side-effects

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topic: translational medicine ont

13:44:02 [ericP]

... goal was to create this high-level domain which one could plug data into so we could ask questions

13:44:51 [ericP]

... based upon the questions, we have 113 entities that could be in the ont -- weeding out duplications and subtle overlaps (e.g. compound vs. entire drug)

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... we're defining used cases in Xgenomics

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13:46:46 [ericP]

... once we select a use case, we'll roll out a demo based on those use cases

13:47:00 [ericP]

... so we're likely to want to include some pharma data

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topic: scientific discourse

13:47:30 [ericP]

timC: lots of side collaborations

13:48:34 [ericP]

... paolo and alex will be posting IG notes for SWAN/SIOC integration

13:48:54 [ericP]

... expect to talk with peter buckingham about it

13:49:07 [ericP]

... now discussing the semantics of annotation

13:49:19 [ericP]

... e.g. asserted links to terminology

13:49:27 [ericP]

... need to be open and available in RDF as well

13:49:44 [ericP]

... working with mary ann martone on aligning with the model

13:50:02 [ericP]

mscottm: touches with matthias's work on aTags

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... other tasks where annotation is the next step

13:50:33 [ericP]

... want to create different provenance models when you create the annotation

13:50:45 [ericP]

... e.g. who said it when

13:51:36 [ericP]

timC: would be interested to work on this as a joint task

13:52:09 [ericP]

... depends on where matthias wants to work on aTags

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... i think matthias is cautious about getting to theoretical

13:54:45 [ericP]

mscottm: need to find out if matthias is intersted in the non-manual annotations (or stuff supplied by wikiprofessional)

13:54:57 [ericP]

kei: can we integrate this with federation

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timC: our core job is to get the model right

13:55:22 [ericP]

... then folks can apply what ever processing they want

13:55:42 [ericP]

... my interest is semi-automatic annotation of web content

13:55:53 [ericP]

mscottm: one unifying app would be:

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... .. create an aTag

13:57:11 [ericP]

... .. federate that with the SWAN data so you can view it as an assertion by the asserter

13:57:40 [ericP]

timC: i think there a few intersting apps

13:57:56 [ericP]

... would like to create an uber-task around september

13:58:07 [ericP]

topic: TPAC

13:58:29 [ericP]

... 2-6 Nov in Santa Clara

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... we meet 2-3 Nov

13:59:37 [ericP]

... need agendas from the task force leads

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... captured the main ideas for future work on the wiki (6 bullets)

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- +1.617.947.aadd

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-John_Madden

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- +1.609.730.aaaa

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-Kei_Cheung

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-EricP

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-Scott_Marshall

14:02:33 [ericP]

RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/06-hclschairs-minutes.html ericP

14:06:44 [ericP]

RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/06-hclschairs-minutes.html ericP

14:07:13 [Zakim]

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Attendees were Scott_Marshall, +1.609.730.aaaa, +1.860.226.aabb, John_Madden, EricP, Kei_Cheung, +1.617.947.aacc, +1.617.947.aadd

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