IRC log of hclschairs on 2009-07-06

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13:07:08 [ericP]
RRSAgent, please dial ericP-office
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'please dial ericP-office', ericP. Try /msg RRSAgent help
13:07:26 [ericP]
Zakim, please dial ericP-office
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ok, ericP; the call is being made
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scribenick: ericP
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vipul: Rachel gave talk at AMIA -- big success
13:08:31 [ericP]
... also submitted for anual symposium and @@1
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... Helen is sketching out patient privacy
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... need to coord with John Madden
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... patient privacy crosses task forces
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ericP: we were supposed to have sent an abstract a month before
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Susie: and other tracks, like in-use?
13:11:22 [ericP]
ericP: in-use seemed to be (according to the chair) more deployed stuff
13:11:44 [ericP]
vipul: i expect security/policy will get a life of its own
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... (just by the size of it)
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... i would be participating from the payer perspective
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... key issue is rallying the momentum
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susie: so ericP's techy presentation during the main call was related
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vipul: like with COI, we need to give ericP real use cases to give them more impact
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susie: CIO of lilly is interested, but timing was off for the call
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... he was meant to be writing use cases, worth prodding him
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mscottm: COI has a great demo for pharma
13:15:21 [ericP]
vipul: it would be great to make sure everyone can use the demo
13:16:06 [ericP]
mscottm: i've been focusing my 1.5min demo on AIDA, but should demo COI
13:16:24 [ericP]
... any chance of getting an intrest group note out?
13:16:48 [ericP]
vipul: good point, with feedback, questions from the audience...
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ACTION: Susie to forward relevent invites to adrian sechum
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topic: Terminology [JohnM]
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John: SKOS on a bit of a haietus (SP?)
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... but progress with mscottm which i haven't seen
13:19:28 [ericP]
... interest and progress on privacy front
13:20:11 [ericP]
... we have permission to reveal some of our patient pathology data via d2r if we have appropriate protection
13:20:33 [ericP]
... have to install ericP's software and hook it up to our database
13:20:59 [ericP]
... did a poster at AMIA spring meeting in Orlando
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... big emphasis on GRDDL and transforms
13:21:28 [ericP]
... attendance was thin -- only got attention from Peter Elkin
13:22:20 [ericP]
... Rachel said that kent spackman and ohter ihdo folks are releasing an OWL-ized version of SNOMED
13:23:21 [ericP]
ericP: would be good to connect Peter @@2 (Kaiser) with IHDO initiative
13:23:45 [ericP]
Susie: a paper with pro's (above) and con's (from JohnM) would be good
13:24:23 [ericP]
JohnM: HHS secretary asked a bunch of us to write a use cases in pathology white paper
13:24:57 [ericP]
... Mary Kennedy and I wrote up the paper. in editing cycle now
13:25:31 [ericP]
... tried to emphasize the benefits of common identifiers in health care field, specifically IRIs
13:25:41 [ericP]
... + chapter on SNOMED and OWL
13:25:53 [ericP]
... + chapter on higher levels of interop
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... can consider it a contribution of W3C
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mscottm: at f2f, harold solbrig showed interest
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JohnM: expect he's really busy, need to chase him down
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mscottm: randy raymond right called once
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate ericP
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RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
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mscottm: if folks remember other folks like these, let's put them in a list
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ericP has changed the topic to:
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topic: BioRDF [kei]
13:29:48 [mscottm]
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kei: Data Integration in Life Science paper submitted
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Data Integration in the Life Sciences
13:30:02 [ericP]
... collab between LODD and BioRDF task forces
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... submitted a poster
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... ania, june, matthias have been working on this poster
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... converted the @@3 database into RDF
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... june will release it when it's clean
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... couple weeks before the deadline arrives
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13:32:07 [mscottm]
huajun chen
13:32:34 [ericP]
... hujun chen's keen to integrate western med data and easter herbal
13:33:16 [ericP]
... hard for him to participate (time zone) - may need to accomodate
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... </update on TCM>
13:33:43 [ericP]
... considering extension of Query Federation
13:34:00 [ericP]
... have a paper BioInformatics - editor is working on it
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... don't have final pub date
13:34:30 [ericP]
... could continue with more data
13:34:43 [ericP]
... discussed image data, microarray data...
13:35:08 [ericP]
... can also consider upper-level meta-data to guide query federation
13:35:25 [ericP]
... in our last attempted, we hard-coded the query plan
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... so extensions could use meta-data to generate that plan automatically
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... can extend AIDA or FeDeRate to use this meta-data
13:36:51 [ericP]
Zakim, who is here?
13:36:51 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Scott_Marshall, +1.609.730.aaaa, +1.860.226.aabb, John_Madden, EricP, Kei_Cheung
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On IRC I see johnM, mscottm, RRSAgent, ericP, Zakim
13:37:29 [ericP]
mscottm: do you see opportunites for an interest group note?
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kei: perhaps in terms of query federation
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ericP: i expet that most fora don't want papers to have dual-submission so may have to choose between IG note vs. peer-reviewed paper
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mscottm: hclskb note is a counter-example
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topic: LODD
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13:41:29 [ericP]
Susie: workign with jun and anya to add TCM data source
13:41:54 [ericP]
... also working on Slider
13:42:05 [ericP]
... have the joint poster with BioRDF at DILS
13:42:19 [ericP]
... working on a paper for iTriplify challenge
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... Bosse and I [Susie] working on the use case
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... e.g. what drug targets do these herbs work against vs. conventional medication
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... e.g. comparing side-effects
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topic: translational medicine ont
13:44:02 [ericP]
... goal was to create this high-level domain which one could plug data into so we could ask questions
13:44:51 [ericP]
... based upon the questions, we have 113 entities that could be in the ont -- weeding out duplications and subtle overlaps (e.g. compound vs. entire drug)
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... we're defining used cases in Xgenomics
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13:46:46 [ericP]
... once we select a use case, we'll roll out a demo based on those use cases
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... so we're likely to want to include some pharma data
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topic: scientific discourse
13:47:30 [ericP]
timC: lots of side collaborations
13:48:34 [ericP]
... paolo and alex will be posting IG notes for SWAN/SIOC integration
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... expect to talk with peter buckingham about it
13:49:07 [ericP]
... now discussing the semantics of annotation
13:49:19 [ericP]
... e.g. asserted links to terminology
13:49:27 [ericP]
... need to be open and available in RDF as well
13:49:44 [ericP]
... working with mary ann martone on aligning with the model
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mscottm: touches with matthias's work on aTags
13:50:19 [ericP]
... other tasks where annotation is the next step
13:50:33 [ericP]
... want to create different provenance models when you create the annotation
13:50:45 [ericP]
... e.g. who said it when
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timC: would be interested to work on this as a joint task
13:52:09 [ericP]
... depends on where matthias wants to work on aTags
13:52:52 [ericP]
... i think matthias is cautious about getting to theoretical
13:54:45 [ericP]
mscottm: need to find out if matthias is intersted in the non-manual annotations (or stuff supplied by wikiprofessional)
13:54:57 [ericP]
kei: can we integrate this with federation
13:55:12 [ericP]
timC: our core job is to get the model right
13:55:22 [ericP]
... then folks can apply what ever processing they want
13:55:42 [ericP]
... my interest is semi-automatic annotation of web content
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mscottm: one unifying app would be:
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... .. create an aTag
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... .. federate that with the SWAN data so you can view it as an assertion by the asserter
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timC: i think there a few intersting apps
13:57:56 [ericP]
... would like to create an uber-task around september
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topic: TPAC
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... 2-6 Nov in Santa Clara
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... we meet 2-3 Nov
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... need agendas from the task force leads
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... captured the main ideas for future work on the wiki (6 bullets)
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14:02:33 [ericP]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate ericP
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate ericP
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Attendees were Scott_Marshall, +1.609.730.aaaa, +1.860.226.aabb, John_Madden, EricP, Kei_Cheung, +1.617.947.aacc, +1.617.947.aadd
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