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20:00:00 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
20:00:00 <trackbot> Date: 02 July 2009
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20:11:41 <greggvanderheiden> TOPIC:Issue 2719: Failure F3 -images via CSS: a question
20:21:51 <MichaelC> q+ to ask if we want an erratum
20:22:27 <Loretta> ack q
20:22:34 <Loretta> ack m
20:22:34 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to ask if we want an erratum
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20:28:46 <greggvanderheiden> <Even though what you describe would technically conform, it is not a good idea because the information would not be visible or even known about by someone using High Contrast mode (which removed background images). >
20:32:32 <greggvanderheiden> < And the information would not be visible or even known about by someone using High Contrast mode (which removed background images).   So even though what you describe would technically conform, it is not a good idea or good practice>
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20:35:05 <Loretta> However, the approach you've described can be somewhat difficult to maintain and may still present barriers for some users. For example, a user who has images turned off and CSS turned on, such as someone using High Contrast mode, will not encounter the information conveyed by the background images in your example. So even though what you describe would technically conform, it is not a good...
20:35:06 <Loretta> ...idea or good practice
20:36:57 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic
20:38:07 <Loretta> However, the approach you've described can be somewhat difficult to maintain and may still present barriers for some users. For example, a user using High Contrast mode, which turns off CSS images, will not encounter the information conveyed by the background images in your example. So even though what you describe would technically conform, it is not a good idea or good practice 
20:38:37 <greggvanderheiden> <However, the approach you've described can be somewhat difficult to maintain and may still present barriers for some users. For example, for a user who has High Contrast mode turned on (which leaves CSS turned on but hides background images),  the information conveyed by the background images in your example would not be visible or known about . So even though what you describe would technically conform, it is not a good idea or good practi
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20:40:13 <greggvanderheiden> RESOLUTION:  Accepted as amended. 
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20:41:20 <greggvanderheiden> TOPIC: WCAG 2.O Coverage of 508
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21:10:38 <greggvanderheiden> RESOLUTION:  Prepare response providing feedback. Share with Access Board.
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21:13:20 <Zakim> Attendees were Cooper, David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Sofia_Celic
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