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15:05:06 <stuart> Zakim, this is WebCGM
15:05:06 <Zakim> ok, stuart; that matches GA_WebCGM()11:00AM
15:05:10 <Zakim> +Thierry
15:05:25 <stuart> Scribe: stuart
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15:05:31 <stuart> chair: lofton
15:05:39 <stuart> regrets: benoit, don
15:05:58 <stuart> Meeting: WebCGM Teleconf
15:06:16 <Zakim> + +1.425.228.aaaa
15:07:18 <stuart> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2009Jul/0000.html
15:07:22 <lofton> agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2009Jul/0000.html
15:07:44 <lofton> minutes:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2009May/0008.html
15:08:22 <stuart> present: Thierry, Dave C, Stuart, Lofton
15:08:58 <lofton> zakim, +1.425.228.aaaa is Dave
15:08:58 <Zakim> +Dave; got it
15:09:05 <stuart> topic: roll call 11:00am ET,
15:10:28 <stuart> topic: Comments on 2nd LCWD
15:11:14 <stuart> There has been one comment so far.
15:11:14 <tmichel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2009Jun/0010.html
15:13:01 <tmichel> +q
15:13:11 <stuart> It is felt that it would be a lot onf work to create a normative schema and would require a complete rewrite of chapter 4
15:14:11 <stuart> That said, we might consider writing a schema as a non normative technical report.
15:15:59 <stuart> A similiar situation happened in SMIL and they used a tool to create a relax ng schema and included it in an informative appendix
15:16:44 <lofton> As TM pointed out:  SMIL used a tool to convert DTD to Relax NG, but the result of course has no greater richness than the DTD.
15:17:06 <lofton> (So ... why bother, if you're not going to use the greater capability of the schema.)
15:17:29 <lofton> TM also said:  there is no W3C requirement for Schema vs. DTD.
15:19:24 <lofton> TM:  also invite commenter to make a contribution of a first cut at a schema.
15:19:35 <lofton> SG:  Relax NG or Schema?
15:36:47 <stuart> topic: Implementation Report
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15:38:33 <stuart> Thierry: suggests that we include the 2.1 tests in the impliementation report
15:38:57 <tmichel> we should have a test suite covering 2.0 and 2.1
15:39:12 <tmichel> 2.1 should be delivered in a subdirectory
15:39:30 <tmichel> and we should have a implementation covering only the delta 21 tests
15:39:40 <Dave> gotta step away for a minute
15:40:24 <lofton> CR-exit and Impl. Report should *only* concern 2.1 changes (add-on functionality of 2.1).
15:40:36 <tmichel> +1
15:43:10 <lofton> A fine detail that needs to be answered:  should the old 2.0 (& 1.0) tests be updated in the ProfileEd string?
15:44:51 <Dave> i'm back
15:45:22 <lofton> Or should the test suite, in the Overview.html, explain that tests with ProfileEd:2.0 (or 1.0) are 2.1-valid except for the ProfileEd string.
15:46:30 <lofton> Or should METAFILE DESCRIPTION elt. in Ch.6 be changed to say that 1.0 and 2.0 are valid entries for ProfileEd in the 2.1 version of WebCGM?
15:47:00 <lofton> Ultimately:  all ProfileEd should be 2.1.
15:47:21 <stuart> I will look into seeing how hard it would be to write a script to change the profileED to 2.1
15:47:36 <lofton> But maybe as an expedient, we'll make the first release with the old 1.0 and 2.0, and explanation that future release will fix it to 2.1.
16:03:20 <stuart> The comment also included a question about CSS.
16:04:30 <lofton> my reply about CSS:
16:04:31 <lofton> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2009Jun/0009.html
16:07:06 <lofton> I'll summarize for the WG list and we can incorporate it into our response (in 2 weeks).
16:07:51 <stuart> topic: next F2F:  Ann Arbor
16:08:52 <stuart> The two main items will be the CR transition changes and the test fest.
16:09:26 <stuart> it is unknown how much of the schedule would be consumed with ths.
16:09:31 <stuart> s/ths/this/
16:13:01 <stuart> rrsagent, make logs member
16:13:10 <Zakim> -Dave
16:13:15 <stuart> rrsagent, set logs world
16:13:26 <stuart> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:13:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-webcgm-minutes.html stuart
16:13:36 <stuart> rrsagent, bye 
16:13:36 <RRSAgent> I see no action items