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13:00:35 <ArtB> ScribeNick: ArtB
13:00:38 <ArtB> Chair: Art
13:00:41 <ArtB> Scribe: Art
13:00:52 <ArtB> Meeting: Widgets Voice Conference
13:00:53 <Zakim> IA_WebApps(Widgets)9:00AM has now started
13:00:56 <ArtB> Date: 25 June 2009
13:01:00 <Zakim> +JereK
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13:01:16 <ArtB> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1217.html
13:01:39 <Zakim> +Art_Barstow
13:02:00 <ArtB> Regrets: Thomas, Frederick, Marcos, Arve
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13:02:13 <ArtB> zakim, who's here?
13:02:18 <Zakim> +??P27
13:02:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see JereK, Art_Barstow, ??P27
13:02:41 <ArtB> RRSAgent, make log Public
13:02:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see mhanclik, darobin, RRSAgent, Zakim, fjh, MikeSmith, JereK, Marcin, ArtB, heycam, shepazu, Marcos, trackbot
13:02:45 <darobin> Zakim, ??P27 is me
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13:03:00 <Zakim> +darobin; got it
13:03:08 <Zakim> +??P0
13:03:14 <ArtB> Present: Art, Robin, Jere, Marcin
13:03:20 <darobin> Zakim, ??P0 is mhanclik 
13:03:26 <Zakim> +mhanclik; got it
13:03:43 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike-Mobile
13:03:43 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
13:03:44 <Zakim> +Mike
13:03:51 <ArtB> Present+ Mike
13:04:01 <Zakim> +David_Rogers
13:04:11 <ArtB> Present+ David
13:04:24 <darobin> Zakim, who's making noise?
13:04:35 <Zakim> darobin, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Art_Barstow (5%), darobin (64%), Mike (35%)
13:04:52 <MikeSmith> Zakim, drop Mike
13:04:52 <Zakim> Mike is being disconnected
13:04:53 <Zakim> -Mike
13:04:55 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike-Mobile
13:04:55 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
13:04:56 <Zakim> +Mike
13:05:06 <ArtB> Topic: Review and tweak agenda
13:05:13 <ArtB> AB: I submitted a draft agenda on June 24 ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1217.html ). I will combine some of the P&C comments i.e. take 3a-3d together and 3e-3h together. Any change requests?
13:05:54 <ArtB> AB: given Marcos' absence today, we will defer detailed discussion of P+C LC comments
13:06:06 <ArtB> AB: any change requests?
13:06:08 <ArtB> [ None ]
13:06:15 <ArtB> Topic: Announcements
13:06:20 <ArtB> AB: does anyone have any short announcements?
13:06:38 <ArtB> [ None ]
13:06:54 <ArtB> Topic: P+C comments from Dom, Francois and Opera
13:07:00 <ArtB> AB: there is still no response to the four sets of comments from Dom, Francois, Opera and Dom (again)
13:07:20 <ArtB> AB: Comments from Dom Hazael-Massieux (12 June and 15 June)
13:07:26 <ArtB> ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/0936.html
13:07:32 <ArtB> ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/0971.html
13:07:38 <ArtB> AB: Comments from Francois Daoust (14 June)
13:07:44 <ArtB> ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/0962.html
13:07:53 <ArtB> AB: Comments from Opera (15 June; submitted by Marcos)
13:07:58 <ArtB> ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/0975.html
13:08:03 <ArtB> AB: Comments from Dom Hazael-Massieux (17 June)
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13:08:08 <ArtB> ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1021.html
13:08:16 <ArtB> AB: I want to remind everyone: a) we have an obligation to respond to every comment; b) we cannot proceed with a request to Candidate until we have responded to all comments and every comment is recorded in the tracking doc ( http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD-widgets-20090528/ )
13:08:48 <ArtB> AB: any comments?
13:09:08 <ArtB> [ None ]
13:09:20 <ArtB> Topic: Comments from Josh
13:09:28 <ArtB> AB: on June 18 Josh submitted four sets of comments 
13:09:33 <ArtB> ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1096.html
13:09:39 <ArtB> ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1097.html
13:09:44 <ArtB> ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1101.html
13:09:50 <ArtB> ... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1102.html
13:10:00 <ArtB> AB: of course we must also respond to all of these comments and please do so on the public mail list
13:10:17 <ArtB> AB: any comments?
13:10:51 <ArtB> [ None ]
13:11:19 <ArtB> JK: there could be some substantial comments in there
13:11:29 <ArtB> ... but most seem to be editorial
13:11:38 <MikeSmith> Zakim, mute Mike
13:11:38 <Zakim> Mike should now be muted
13:11:43 <Zakim> + +39.503.7.aaaa
13:11:55 <MikeSmith> Zakim, Mike is me
13:11:55 <Zakim> +MikeSmith; got it
13:11:58 <darobin> Zakim, aaaa is me
13:11:58 <Zakim> +darobin; got it
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13:12:13 <ArtB> AB: any last comments on P+C spec?
13:12:32 <ArtB> JK: would be good if MC would sift out those that need discussion
13:12:42 <Zakim> -darobin
13:12:42 <ArtB> ... and the editorial ones he can just resolve
13:12:51 <ArtB> AB: that's a good idea
13:13:26 <ArtB> ... and we can hot topics to next week's agenda
13:13:35 <ArtB> Topic: A&E spec
13:13:49 <ArtB> AB: the basic discussion points are what is the status of the A&E spec and what are the plans for publishing the LCWD? Latest ED is ( http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/ )
13:14:08 <ArtB> AB: Arve and Marcos aren't here
13:14:28 <ArtB> ... Robin, did you agree to be extra editor?
13:14:34 <ArtB> RB: I am happy to do so
13:15:07 <ArtB> ACTION: barstow decide if Robin should be added as an Editor of the A+E spec
13:15:07 <trackbot> Created ACTION-372 - Decide if Robin should be added as an Editor of the A+E spec [on Arthur Barstow - due 2009-07-02].
13:15:33 <ArtB> AB: any comments on A+E?
13:15:44 <ArtB> RB: don't think there is much left before we move on with it
13:15:58 <ArtB> ... most of the changes we agreed to during our last f2f are already done
13:16:03 <ArtB> ... but a few things are missing
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13:16:23 <ArtB> ... showNot is now marked as risk
13:16:38 <ArtB> ... but I should talk to Arve and MC before making any changes
13:16:40 <Marcos> ahi
13:16:49 <ArtB> DR: need to update P+C refs
13:16:55 <ArtB> RB: yes; correct
13:17:09 <ArtB> AB: any other comments?
13:17:38 <ArtB> AB: so general action for all wg members to review latest ED and submit comments
13:17:53 <ArtB> Topic: Widgets Update spec & the PAG
13:18:01 <ArtB> AB: the Widgets Update PAG's Charter ( http://www.w3.org/2009/03/widgets-pag-charter.html ) was extended until the end of September. The PAG continues to have weekly conference calls and there will be two more calls before the calls are suspended for 3-4 weeks due to summer holidays.
13:18:38 <ArtB> AB: the call for prior art resulted in several responses ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-widgets-pag/ ).
13:20:12 <ArtB> RB: how committed is the PAG to circumvention vs. prior art?
13:20:34 <ArtB> AB: both tracks are being pursued
13:21:55 <ArtB> Topic: AOB
13:22:06 <ArtB> AB: I don't have anything specific
13:22:12 <ArtB> ... anyone else?
13:22:29 <fjh> other than that it seems ok or do you have another CVS location to use?
13:24:50 <Marcos> fjh, MikeSmith: thanks for taking care of this! 
13:25:40 <ArtB> AB: Meeting Adjourned
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13:26:01 <ArtB> RRSAgent, make minutes
13:26:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-wam-minutes.html ArtB
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13:26:44 <MikeSmith> fjh: please just check back into cvs
13:26:50 <ArtB> RRSAgent, bye
13:26:50 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-wam-actions.rdf :
13:26:50 <RRSAgent> ACTION: barstow decide if Robin should be added as an Editor of the A+E spec [1]
13:26:50 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-wam-irc#T13-15-07