IRC log of wam on 2009-06-25

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ScribeNick: ArtB
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Chair: Art
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Scribe: Art
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Meeting: Widgets Voice Conference
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IA_WebApps(Widgets)9:00AM has now started
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Date: 25 June 2009
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+JereK
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1217.html
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+Art_Barstow
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Regrets: Thomas, Frederick, Marcos, Arve
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zakim, who's here?
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+??P27
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On the phone I see JereK, Art_Barstow, ??P27
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RRSAgent, make log Public
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On IRC I see mhanclik, darobin, RRSAgent, Zakim, fjh, MikeSmith, JereK, Marcin, ArtB, heycam, shepazu, Marcos, trackbot
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Zakim, ??P27 is me
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+darobin; got it
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+??P0
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Present: Art, Robin, Jere, Marcin
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Zakim, ??P0 is mhanclik
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+mhanclik; got it
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Zakim, call Mike-Mobile
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ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
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+Mike
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Present+ Mike
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+David_Rogers
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Present+ David
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Zakim, who's making noise?
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darobin, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Art_Barstow (5%), darobin (64%), Mike (35%)
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Zakim, drop Mike
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Mike is being disconnected
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-Mike
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Zakim, call Mike-Mobile
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ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
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+Mike
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Topic: Review and tweak agenda
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AB: I submitted a draft agenda on June 24 ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1217.html ). I will combine some of the P&C comments i.e. take 3a-3d together and 3e-3h together. Any change requests?
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AB: given Marcos' absence today, we will defer detailed discussion of P+C LC comments
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AB: any change requests?
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[ None ]
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Topic: Announcements
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AB: does anyone have any short announcements?
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[ None ]
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Topic: P+C comments from Dom, Francois and Opera
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AB: there is still no response to the four sets of comments from Dom, Francois, Opera and Dom (again)
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AB: Comments from Dom Hazael-Massieux (12 June and 15 June)
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... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/0936.html
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... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/0971.html
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AB: Comments from Francois Daoust (14 June)
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... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/0962.html
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AB: Comments from Opera (15 June; submitted by Marcos)
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... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/0975.html
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AB: Comments from Dom Hazael-Massieux (17 June)
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... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1021.html
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AB: I want to remind everyone: a) we have an obligation to respond to every comment; b) we cannot proceed with a request to Candidate until we have responded to all comments and every comment is recorded in the tracking doc ( http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/WD-widgets-20090528/ )
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AB: any comments?
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[ None ]
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Topic: Comments from Josh
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AB: on June 18 Josh submitted four sets of comments
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... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1096.html
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... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1097.html
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... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1101.html
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... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2009AprJun/1102.html
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AB: of course we must also respond to all of these comments and please do so on the public mail list
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AB: any comments?
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[ None ]
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JK: there could be some substantial comments in there
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... but most seem to be editorial
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Zakim, mute Mike
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Mike should now be muted
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+ +39.503.7.aaaa
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Zakim, Mike is me
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+MikeSmith; got it
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Zakim, aaaa is me
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+darobin; got it
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AB: any last comments on P+C spec?
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JK: would be good if MC would sift out those that need discussion
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-darobin
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... and the editorial ones he can just resolve
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AB: that's a good idea
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... and we can hot topics to next week's agenda
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Topic: A&E spec
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AB: the basic discussion points are what is the status of the A&E spec and what are the plans for publishing the LCWD? Latest ED is ( http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/ )
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AB: Arve and Marcos aren't here
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... Robin, did you agree to be extra editor?
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RB: I am happy to do so
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ACTION: barstow decide if Robin should be added as an Editor of the A+E spec
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Created ACTION-372 - Decide if Robin should be added as an Editor of the A+E spec [on Arthur Barstow - due 2009-07-02].
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AB: any comments on A+E?
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RB: don't think there is much left before we move on with it
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... most of the changes we agreed to during our last f2f are already done
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... but a few things are missing
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... showNot is now marked as risk
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... but I should talk to Arve and MC before making any changes
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ahi
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DR: need to update P+C refs
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RB: yes; correct
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AB: any other comments?
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AB: so general action for all wg members to review latest ED and submit comments
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Topic: Widgets Update spec & the PAG
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AB: the Widgets Update PAG's Charter ( http://www.w3.org/2009/03/widgets-pag-charter.html ) was extended until the end of September. The PAG continues to have weekly conference calls and there will be two more calls before the calls are suspended for 3-4 weeks due to summer holidays.
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AB: the call for prior art resulted in several responses ( http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-widgets-pag/ ).
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RB: how committed is the PAG to circumvention vs. prior art?
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AB: both tracks are being pursued
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Topic: AOB
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AB: I don't have anything specific
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... anyone else?
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other than that it seems ok or do you have another CVS location to use?
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fjh, MikeSmith: thanks for taking care of this!
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AB: Meeting Adjourned
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-David_Rogers
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-mhanclik
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-darobin.a
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-JereK
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RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-wam-minutes.html ArtB
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-MikeSmith
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fjh: please just check back into cvs
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-wam-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: barstow decide if Robin should be added as an Editor of the A+E spec [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-wam-irc#T13-15-07