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14:58:01 Zakim, this will be HTML
14:58:02 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
14:58:02 Date: 25 June 2009
14:58:02 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
14:59:46 hmm, do I have my times wrong?
15:00:00 I guess I must
15:00:52 gotta cut back on the kush
15:01:05 RRSAgent, bye
15:01:05 I see no action items
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15:56:38 Zakim, this will be HTML
15:56:39 ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
15:56:39 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:56:40 Date: 25 June 2009
15:56:52 Joshue: can you be on the call today?
15:57:03 Hi Mike, yes I will dial in.
15:57:10 excellent, great
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15:58:18 +??P0
15:58:30 zakim, ??P0 is Joshue
15:58:30 +Joshue; got it
16:00:01 what't the dial in code/
16:00:53 +Sam
16:00:56 Hi Steve, its 5487
16:01:17 Zakim, call Mike-Mobile
16:01:17 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:01:19 +Mike
16:01:37 sorry 4865
16:01:52 +??P1
16:02:00 zakim, who is on the call?
16:02:00 On the phone I see Joshue, Sam, Mike, ??P1
16:02:12 zakim, ??P1 is Stevef
16:02:12 +Stevef; got it
16:04:32 scribeNik: is Joshue
16:04:50 TOPIC: Issue 32 Table Summary
16:05:15 SR: The wiki has moved a bit since this issue was created. We should be preparing to vote
16:06:08 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jun/0362.html
16:06:55 josh; this discussion has dragged on, had realization that summary limited but useful, sent email to list about disambiguation of terse and long descriptors and that summary is not
16:07:57 josh: can't act as semantically rich container
16:08:11 josh: still support retention
16:08:47 sam: do you believe wiki accurately represents state of summary issue
16:08:59 josh: yes, but could be improved
16:09:24 sam: can you draft a text to vote on?
16:10:02 josh: yes but want to do it in conjunction with PF
16:10:18 sam: need to get agreement on what we want to vote on
16:10:41 SR: Anything else on @summary?
16:10:49 SF: I've said enough
16:10:52 SR: Ok
16:11:06 TOPIC Issue 54
16:11:13 SR: Julian is not on the call
16:11:32 SR: TOPIC 59
16:11:56 zakim, who is making noise?
16:12:06 MS: The date has been moved. I don't consider it to yet be at the point where it can be reviewed.
16:12:07 rubys, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Joshue (9%), Sam (20%)
16:12:10 zakim, mute me
16:12:10 Joshue should now be muted
16:12:57 MS: I will be working on it today and tomorrow and get it to the reviews point.
16:13:01 MS: asap
16:13:15 SR: Ok, as long as you set the new dates in the tracker.
16:13:37 ACTION: Joshue to draft @summary voting text in conjunction with PF
16:13:37 Created ACTION-128 - Draft @summary voting text in conjunction with PF [on Joshue O Connor - due 2009-07-02].
16:13:57 SR: Action 34 - Overdue
16:14:19 SR: Action 38 We hope to see movement next week.
16:14:38 SR: Action 100
16:14:45 action-100?
16:14:45 ACTION-100 -- Michael(tm) Smith to add a note about issue-67 to the Status section of "HTML 5: The Markup Language" -- due 2009-05-28 -- OPEN
16:14:45 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/100
16:14:52 action-103?
16:14:52 ACTION-103 -- Julian Reschke to register about: URI scheme -- due 2009-06-18 -- OPEN
16:14:52 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/103
16:14:57 SR: Action 103 awaiting Julians return
16:15:06 action-111?
16:15:06 ACTION-111 -- Sam Ruby to send call to working group on summary to update wiki in preparation for vote -- due 2009-06-18 -- OPEN
16:15:06 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/111
16:15:13 SR: Action 126 about table summary
16:15:16 action-126?
16:15:16 ACTION-126 -- Sam Ruby to send a call to the WG to update the Wiki page to adequately reflect both (all) viewpoints on summary, in prep. for a vote -- due 2009-06-11 -- OPEN
16:15:16 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/126
16:15:30 SR: Anything else?
16:15:54 MS: I have an action to put together a demonstration case for ??.
16:16:11 action-115?
16:16:11 ACTION-115 -- Michael(tm) Smith to set up WBS for HTML WG participants to attend HTML WG f2f during TPAC 2009 -- due 2009-05-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW
16:16:11 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/115
16:16:21 MS: Registration date..
16:16:40 MS: That is minimal, only got questions like are you going to extend or not..
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16:17:21 SR: Are you sure its in tracker?
16:17:33 SR: I see some thing from the beginning of this month.
16:17:52 SR: Ok, I'll check with CW and announce it at next meeting
16:17:54 MS: Ok
16:18:09 SF: I have questions about editing sections of the spec
16:18:50 SF: I am confused, if I have an issue or wish to provide an alternative either I can create a copy and modify my section.. then my bit becomes obsolete.
16:19:08 SR: You can produce a fragment etc. They can be merged.
16:19:58 SF: I asked this before, is there a way to have the document as it is being update - the section that I am interested in..can it be independently updated and not changed or overridden by Ians edits?
16:20:32 SR: It is technically possible, don't worry about the final merge.
16:21:12 SF: Is there a point when we say that editing stops while we make desisions?
16:21:30 SR: Ian wants to go to last call in Oct.. thats not far off
16:22:07 SR: It should be easy to produce equivalent docs..if someone else reviews or edits the doc with various parts..this will come down to a vote
16:22:24 SF: Am concerned about document integrity
16:22:40 SF: Mike, can I get access to the repository to create some sections?
16:23:01 MS: Yes, you can.
16:23:14 SF: I understand more clearly now, thank you
16:23:43 Stevef, please e-mail me an SSH2 public key. it can be either DSA or RSA
16:24:12 SF: the other question is that with