14:57:57 RRSAgent has joined #html-wg 14:57:57 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-html-wg-irc 14:57:59 RRSAgent, make logs public 14:58:01 Zakim, this will be HTML 14:58:02 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference 14:58:02 Date: 25 June 2009 14:58:02 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 14:59:46 hmm, do I have my times wrong? 15:00:00 I guess I must 15:00:52 gotta cut back on the kush 15:01:05 RRSAgent, bye 15:01:05 I see no action items 15:56:34 RRSAgent has joined #html-wg 15:56:35 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-html-wg-irc 15:56:36 Joshue has joined #html-wg 15:56:36 RRSAgent, make logs public 15:56:38 Zakim, this will be HTML 15:56:39 ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes 15:56:39 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference 15:56:40 Date: 25 June 2009 15:56:52 Joshue: can you be on the call today? 15:57:03 Hi Mike, yes I will dial in. 15:57:10 excellent, great 15:58:12 HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started 15:58:18 +??P0 15:58:30 zakim, ??P0 is Joshue 15:58:30 +Joshue; got it 16:00:01 what't the dial in code/ 16:00:53 +Sam 16:00:56 Hi Steve, its 5487 16:01:17 Zakim, call Mike-Mobile 16:01:17 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made 16:01:19 +Mike 16:01:37 sorry 4865 16:01:52 +??P1 16:02:00 zakim, who is on the call? 16:02:00 On the phone I see Joshue, Sam, Mike, ??P1 16:02:12 zakim, ??P1 is Stevef 16:02:12 +Stevef; got it 16:04:32 scribeNik: is Joshue 16:04:50 TOPIC: Issue 32 Table Summary 16:05:15 SR: The wiki has moved a bit since this issue was created. We should be preparing to vote 16:06:08 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jun/0362.html 16:06:55 josh; this discussion has dragged on, had realization that summary limited but useful, sent email to list about disambiguation of terse and long descriptors and that summary is not 16:07:57 josh: can't act as semantically rich container 16:08:11 josh: still support retention 16:08:47 sam: do you believe wiki accurately represents state of summary issue 16:08:59 josh: yes, but could be improved 16:09:24 sam: can you draft a text to vote on? 16:10:02 josh: yes but want to do it in conjunction with PF 16:10:18 sam: need to get agreement on what we want to vote on 16:10:41 SR: Anything else on @summary? 16:10:49 SF: I've said enough 16:10:52 SR: Ok 16:11:06 TOPIC Issue 54 16:11:13 SR: Julian is not on the call 16:11:32 SR: TOPIC 59 16:11:56 zakim, who is making noise? 16:12:06 MS: The date has been moved. I don't consider it to yet be at the point where it can be reviewed. 16:12:07 rubys, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Joshue (9%), Sam (20%) 16:12:10 zakim, mute me 16:12:10 Joshue should now be muted 16:12:57 MS: I will be working on it today and tomorrow and get it to the reviews point. 16:13:01 MS: asap 16:13:15 SR: Ok, as long as you set the new dates in the tracker. 16:13:37 ACTION: Joshue to draft @summary voting text in conjunction with PF 16:13:37 Created ACTION-128 - Draft @summary voting text in conjunction with PF [on Joshue O Connor - due 2009-07-02]. 16:13:57 SR: Action 34 - Overdue 16:14:19 SR: Action 38 We hope to see movement next week. 16:14:38 SR: Action 100 16:14:45 action-100? 16:14:45 ACTION-100 -- Michael(tm) Smith to add a note about issue-67 to the Status section of "HTML 5: The Markup Language" -- due 2009-05-28 -- OPEN 16:14:45 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/100 16:14:52 action-103? 16:14:52 ACTION-103 -- Julian Reschke to register about: URI scheme -- due 2009-06-18 -- OPEN 16:14:52 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/103 16:14:57 SR: Action 103 awaiting Julians return 16:15:06 action-111? 16:15:06 ACTION-111 -- Sam Ruby to send call to working group on summary to update wiki in preparation for vote -- due 2009-06-18 -- OPEN 16:15:06 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/111 16:15:13 SR: Action 126 about table summary 16:15:16 action-126? 16:15:16 ACTION-126 -- Sam Ruby to send a call to the WG to update the Wiki page to adequately reflect both (all) viewpoints on summary, in prep. for a vote -- due 2009-06-11 -- OPEN 16:15:16 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/126 16:15:30 SR: Anything else? 16:15:54 MS: I have an action to put together a demonstration case for ??. 16:16:11 action-115? 16:16:11 ACTION-115 -- Michael(tm) Smith to set up WBS for HTML WG participants to attend HTML WG f2f during TPAC 2009 -- due 2009-05-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW 16:16:11 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/115 16:16:21 MS: Registration date.. 16:16:40 MS: That is minimal, only got questions like are you going to extend or not.. 16:17:17 Lachy has joined #html-wg 16:17:21 SR: Are you sure its in tracker? 16:17:33 SR: I see some thing from the beginning of this month. 16:17:52 SR: Ok, I'll check with CW and announce it at next meeting 16:17:54 MS: Ok 16:18:09 SF: I have questions about editing sections of the spec 16:18:50 SF: I am confused, if I have an issue or wish to provide an alternative either I can create a copy and modify my section.. then my bit becomes obsolete. 16:19:08 SR: You can produce a fragment etc. They can be merged. 16:19:58 SF: I asked this before, is there a way to have the document as it is being update - the section that I am interested in..can it be independently updated and not changed or overridden by Ians edits? 16:20:32 SR: It is technically possible, don't worry about the final merge. 16:21:12 SF: Is there a point when we say that editing stops while we make desisions? 16:21:30 SR: Ian wants to go to last call in Oct.. thats not far off 16:22:07 SR: It should be easy to produce equivalent docs..if someone else reviews or edits the doc with various parts..this will come down to a vote 16:22:24 SF: Am concerned about document integrity 16:22:40 SF: Mike, can I get access to the repository to create some sections? 16:23:01 MS: Yes, you can. 16:23:14 SF: I understand more clearly now, thank you 16:23:43 Stevef, please e-mail me an SSH2 public key. it can be either DSA or RSA 16:24:12 SF: the other question is that with .. what do you think is the best way to get this resolved? If more accessibility stuff doesn't get added to it could it be removed? 16:24:19 SR: Its possible, but unlikely 16:25:40 SR: Ian has said that he is committed to accessibility in canvas so he is motivated also by the upcoming deadline for CR 16:26:01 SR: People want in and accessibility is a hard problem. 16:26:07 SR: Anything else? 16:26:17 -Sam 16:26:20 -Mike 16:26:21 -Stevef 16:26:25 RRSAgent, make minutes 16:26:25 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith 16:27:11 zakim, please part 16:27:11 leaving. As of this point the attendees were Joshue, Sam, Mike, Stevef 16:27:11 Zakim has left #html-wg 16:27:57 rrsagent, please part 16:27:57 I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-html-wg-actions.rdf : 16:27:57 ACTION: Joshue to draft @summary voting text in conjunction with PF [1] 16:27:57 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/25-html-wg-irc#T16-13-37