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19:43:06 <Holger> zakim, this will be INC_SSN
19:43:06 <Zakim> ok, Holger; I see INC_SSN()4:00PM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
19:43:28 <Holger> Meeting: SSN XG 17-June-2009
19:43:39 <Holger> Chair: Holger
19:43:54 <Holger> agenda+ Roll call
19:44:01 <Holger> agenda+ Actions from last meeting
19:44:07 <Holger> agenda+ Work packages
19:44:13 <Holger> agenda+ AOB
19:46:29 <Holger> Agenda?
19:51:22 <Zakim> INC_SSN()4:00PM has now started
19:51:29 <Zakim> + +036232aaaa
19:51:52 <Holger> zakim, +036232aaaa is Holger
19:51:52 <Zakim> +Holger; got it
19:52:03 <Holger> zakim, who's on the phone?
19:52:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Holger
19:57:55 <Holger> zakim, who's on the phone?
19:57:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see Holger
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19:58:27 <Zakim> + +1.443.226.aabb
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19:59:21 <Zakim> + +1.512.404.aacc
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19:59:54 <Holger> zakim, who's on the phone?
19:59:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see Holger, +1.512.404.aacc
20:00:01 <Victor> Victor has joined #ssn
20:00:02 <krp> zakim,  +1.512.404.aacc is krp
20:00:02 <Zakim> +krp; got it
20:00:07 <Zakim> + +1.443.226.aadd
20:00:12 <Victor> hello
20:00:20 <Manfred_DERI> Manfred_DERI has joined #ssn
20:00:27 <Holger> Hi!
20:00:31 <Zakim> + +1.202.408.aaee
20:00:34 <Manfred_DERI> Hi
20:00:36 <kerry> kerry has joined #ssn
20:00:44 <Zakim> + +1.831.775.aaff
20:01:08 <Holger> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:01:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Holger, krp, +1.443.226.aadd, +1.202.408.aaee, +1.831.775.aaff
20:01:13 <Zakim> +ciglesia
20:01:18 <cory> cory has joined #ssn
20:01:31 <Victor> zakim, +ciglesia is me
20:01:31 <Zakim> sorry, Victor, I do not recognize a party named '+ciglesia'
20:01:42 <Luis_Bermudez> Luis_Bermudez has joined #ssn
20:01:45 <Victor> zakim, ciglesia is me
20:01:45 <Zakim> +Victor; got it
20:01:58 <Zakim> + +3539144aagg
20:01:58 <Zakim> +??P10
20:02:25 <Zakim> +Prateek
20:02:38 <Holger> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:02:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see Holger, krp, +1.443.226.aadd, +1.202.408.aaee, +1.831.775.aaff, Victor, +3539144aagg, ??P10, Prateek
20:02:47 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:03:04 <Manfred_DERI> +3539144aagg is me - Manfred
20:03:24 <krzysztof_j> hi
20:03:35 <Holger> Hi!
20:03:43 <cory> Prateek is cory
20:03:56 <Manfred_DERI> I will have to leave in 30 min for another telephone conference - sorry
20:04:13 <dder> dder has joined #ssn
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20:04:32 <krp> zakim, dder is with me
20:04:32 <Zakim> +dder; got it
20:05:10 <Holger> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:05:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see Holger, krp, +1.443.226.aadd, +1.202.408.aaee, +1.831.775.aaff, Victor, +3539144aagg, ??P10, Prateek, [IPcaller]
20:05:12 <Zakim> krp has krp, dder
20:05:27 <kerry> zakim, P10 is me
20:05:27 <Zakim> sorry, kerry, I do not recognize a party named 'P10'
20:05:45 <cory> zakim, +Prateek is me
20:05:45 <Zakim> sorry, cory, I do not recognize a party named '+Prateek'
20:05:48 <kerry> zakim, ??P10 is me
20:05:48 <Zakim> +kerry; got it
20:05:53 <Zakim> + +34.91.633.aahh
20:06:20 <jgraybea> there is an echo
20:06:47 <Holger> Agenda?
20:06:50 <jgraybea> I am willing to try but I am just learning the syntax
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20:07:52 <Holger> ScribeNick: jgraybea
20:07:53 <krp> Terrible echo here too
20:08:00 <krzysztof_j> here too
20:08:07 <jgraybea> Topic: who will take minutes
20:08:30 <jgraybea> jgraybea: got it covered, maybe
20:10:43 <krp> Is everyone muting when they're not talking? (might fix the echo)
20:11:17 <jgraybea> Topic: actions from last meeting
20:11:21 <Rodrigo> zakim, who is making noise?
20:11:31 <Zakim> Rodrigo, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +34.91.633.aahh (24%), kerry (20%)
20:12:44 <jgraybea> Kerry is reviewing with wonsuk (email generated, pending MPEG meeting; Luis' presentation offered to him
20:14:02 <jgraybea> AI (Amit): generating several data sets (observation, description), will make available (pub date TBD)
20:14:37 <jgraybea> AI info - review survey paper (Michael): defer to next meeting
20:15:41 <jgraybea> AI info - presentation to OGC in Boston (Luis): sent to mail list, any comments? 
20:16:36 <jgraybea> ... paper uploaded, 
20:16:59 <jgraybea> ACTION: Holger to set up publication page (all to add content as appropriate)
20:17:38 <Zakim> - +1.443.226.aadd
20:18:08 <Luis_Bermudez> wait
20:18:17 <ocorcho> I agree, wait
20:18:19 <jgraybea> AI info - timing of face-to-face meeting: discuss now or next week (with ISWC workshop schedule in hand)? wait
20:18:22 <Manfred_DERI> +1
20:18:25 <Holger> Agenda?
20:18:48 <jgraybea> Topic: Work package process formulation
20:18:49 <kerry> zakim, mute me
20:18:49 <Zakim> kerry should now be muted
20:19:22 <jgraybea> agreed ontology is one package, markup is the other
20:20:09 <ocorcho> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Sensor_Net_Ontology
20:20:42 <Zakim> + +1.443.226.aaii
20:21:09 <jgraybea>  ... see from main page, Work Packages, Semantic Sensor Net Ontology for proposal on how to proceed
20:21:52 <jgraybea> Re markup package, interest from several people (include Luis?)
20:22:33 <kerry> +q
20:23:27 <Manfred_DERI> I hardly can understand anything
20:23:30 <kerry> I am finding the echo too difficult to follow the phone
20:23:33 <Manfred_DERI> the echo is terrible
20:23:41 <jgraybea> Bermudez: trying to solve more general problem, to align SWE technologies with semantic web technologies
20:23:51 <ocorcho> zakim, mute me
20:23:51 <Zakim> sorry, ocorcho, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
20:24:02 <Holger> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:24:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see Holger, krp, +1.202.408.aaee, +1.831.775.aaff, Victor, +3539144aagg, kerry (muted), Prateek, [IPcaller], +34.91.633.aahh, +1.443.226.aaii
20:24:05 <Zakim> krp has krp, dder
20:24:16 <kerry> unmute me
20:24:20 <Rodrigo> zakim, who is making noise?
20:24:25 <kerry> zakim, unmute me
20:24:25 <Zakim> kerry should no longer be muted
20:24:36 <Zakim> Rodrigo, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +34.91.633.aahh (47%), Holger (14%), +1.443.226.aaii (17%), kerry (79%), [IPcaller] (5%)
20:24:41 <ocorcho> reconnecting, sorry.
20:25:47 <Zakim> - +34.91.633.aahh
20:26:08 <Manfred_DERI> +q
20:26:22 <kerry> -q
20:26:38 <Holger> ack Manfred
20:26:49 <jgraybea> Manfred: willing to collaborate on the annotation package
20:27:14 <Zakim> + +34.91.633.aajj
20:27:29 <ocorcho> +34.91.633.aajj is ocorcho
20:27:52 <jgraybea> Holger: Have been collaborating for 3 months, good idea to get ideas together, contribute to use cases, get things going
20:28:15 <jgraybea> +q
20:28:32 <ocorcho> it is me, probably
20:29:39 <Zakim> - +34.91.633.aajj
20:29:56 <jgraybea> Graybeal: suggest reviewing the Process for the Ontology Work Package
20:30:52 <Manfred_DERI> I am sorry, I have to leave now for another telephone conference. Talk to you again next week!
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20:31:05 <Zakim> - +3539144aagg
20:31:54 <Luis_Bermudez> I need to leave now.. sorry . Please send me comments about the presentation for the OGC TC Meeting.. thanks
20:31:57 <Zakim> - +1.202.408.aaee
20:33:17 <jgraybea> +q
20:33:19 <krp> Sounds like the most practical way forward (+1)
20:33:33 <kerry> +1
20:33:38 <jgraybea> +1
20:34:25 <krp> Yes, definitely also good to take one of these telecons to go through the ontologies
20:34:36 <krp> I think that'd be really useful
20:34:38 <krzysztof_j> ack
20:35:03 <kerry> also - plan to use the f2f in october
20:36:37 <michael> michael has joined #ssn
20:36:41 <jgraybea> Holger: this is broader approach than was previously done
20:37:02 <jgraybea> Graybeal: volunteers to lead this first part, but would have to back off later
20:37:25 <Zakim> +??P0
20:37:33 <jgraybea> Holger: for comments, contact John
20:37:48 <michael> sorry, rough night, slept in.
20:37:51 <jgraybea> ACTION: (John) send initial to mailing list to get process started, inform those not present
20:38:18 <jgraybea> ACTION: Discuss timing of face-to-face meeting
20:38:26 <kerry> +q
20:38:28 <jgraybea> ACTION: Review the survey paper
20:38:30 <jgraybea> -q
20:39:05 <krp> Apologies in advance, I'll miss next weeks telecon (I'll be travelling back to the UK)
20:39:35 <jgraybea> ACTION: Discuss content of face-to-face meeting next meeting
20:39:41 <dder> I'll be at F2F
20:39:54 <krp> I'll hopefully be at f2f
20:40:32 <jgraybea> ACTION: (all) identify whether available for f2f meeting
20:41:12 <jgraybea> if OK, let's tenatively shoot for ontology meeting 2 weeks from today
20:41:37 <jgraybea> Graybeal: (comments on minutes are welcome)
20:41:44 <kerry> bye!
20:41:48 <Zakim> -Victor
20:41:54 <krzysztof_j> bye!
20:41:57 <Victor> bye
20:42:15 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
20:42:21 <kerry> bye!
20:42:22 <Zakim> -Prateek
20:42:24 <Zakim> -kerry
20:42:25 <jgraybea> ACTION: Review Luis' paper and send comments to him
20:42:26 <Zakim> -krp
20:42:29 <Zakim> - +1.443.226.aaii
20:42:29 <kerry> bye!
20:42:33 <krp> bye
20:42:34 <Zakim> -??P0
20:42:46 <jgraybea> (that last action was for everyone)
20:43:12 <michael> michael has left #ssn
20:44:02 <jgraybea> zakim, bye
20:44:02 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Holger, +1.443.226.aabb, krp, +1.443.226.aadd, +1.202.408.aaee, +1.831.775.aaff, Victor, +3539144aagg, Prateek, [IPcaller], dder,
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20:44:06 <Zakim> ... kerry, +34.91.633.aahh, +1.443.226.aaii, +34.91.633.aajj
20:44:17 <jgraybea> rrsagent, make log public
20:44:24 <jgraybea> rrsagent, draft minutes
20:44:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/17-ssn-minutes.html jgraybea
20:44:31 <jgraybea> rrsagent, bye
20:44:31 <RRSAgent> I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/17-ssn-actions.rdf :
20:44:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Holger to set up publication page (all to add content as appropriate) [1]
20:44:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/17-ssn-irc#T20-16-59
20:44:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: (John) send initial to mailing list to get process started, inform those not present [2]
20:44:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/17-ssn-irc#T20-37-51
20:44:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Discuss timing of face-to-face meeting [3]
20:44:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/17-ssn-irc#T20-38-18
20:44:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Review the survey paper [4]
20:44:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/17-ssn-irc#T20-38-28
20:44:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Discuss content of face-to-face meeting next meeting [5]
20:44:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/17-ssn-irc#T20-39-35
20:44:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: (all) identify whether available for f2f meeting [6]
20:44:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/17-ssn-irc#T20-40-32
20:44:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Review Luis' paper and send comments to him [7]
20:44:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/17-ssn-irc#T20-42-25