IRC log of sparql on 2009-06-16
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- 13:58:26 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/06/16-sparql-irc
- 13:58:32 [AxelPolleres]
- Zakim, this is SPARQL
- 13:58:32 [Zakim]
- ok, AxelPolleres; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
- 13:58:34 [SteveH]
- I think my action was time mermitting, but maybe that wasn't captured
- 13:58:41 [Zakim]
- - +049261287aaaa
- 13:58:49 [AndyS]
- It's FPWD - agreeing to publish is not a universal agreement with the doc.
- 13:59:03 [bglimm]
- Hi all, I am scribing today for the first time... Do i have to do something special to get the chat log published afterwards?
- 13:59:08 [Zakim]
- + +1.518.276.aabb
- 13:59:12 [Zakim]
- -bcuencagrau
- 13:59:14 [kasei]
- Zakim, aabb is me
- 13:59:15 [Zakim]
- +kasei; got it
- 13:59:16 [Zakim]
- + +3539149aacc
- 13:59:19 [kasei]
- Zakim, mute me
- 13:59:19 [Zakim]
- kasei should now be muted
- 13:59:31 [SteveH]
- oh, I may be able to attend after all, but will be a bit late
- 13:59:46 [AxelPolleres]
- Zakim, aacc is me
- 13:59:46 [Zakim]
- +AxelPolleres; got it
- 14:00:08 [kasei]
- yes, can hear you
- 14:00:17 [AxelPolleres]
- Zakim, who is speaking?
- 14:00:21 [kasei]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 14:00:21 [Zakim]
- kasei should no longer be muted
- 14:00:29 [Zakim]
- AxelPolleres, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: kasei (29%), AxelPolleres (31%)
- 14:00:50 [Zakim]
- +bcuencagrau
- 14:00:56 [AxelPolleres]
- Zakim, who is on the phone?
- 14:00:56 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see kasei, AxelPolleres, bcuencagrau
- 14:00:58 [SteveH]
- SteveH has joined #sparql
- 14:00:59 [bglimm]
- Zakim, bcuencagrau is bglimm
- 14:00:59 [Zakim]
- +bglimm; got it
- 14:01:09 [kasei]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:01:09 [Zakim]
- kasei should now be muted
- 14:01:21 [Zakim]
- +??P26
- 14:01:28 [AxelPolleres]
- scribenick: bglimm
- 14:01:30 [AlexPassant]
- Zakim, ??P26 is me
- 14:01:30 [Zakim]
- +AlexPassant; got it
- 14:01:30 [AndyS]
- AndyS has joined #sparql
- 14:01:34 [AxelPolleres]
- scribe: Birte Glimm
- 14:01:36 [Zakim]
- + +49.261.287.aadd
- 14:01:45 [SimonS1]
- Zakim, aadd is me
- 14:01:45 [Zakim]
- +SimonS1; got it
- 14:01:52 [Zakim]
- +??P29
- 14:01:57 [SteveH]
- Zakim, ??p29 is me
- 14:01:58 [Zakim]
- +SteveH; got it
- 14:02:25 [Zakim]
- +??P34
- 14:02:27 [AndyS]
- zakim, ??P34 is me
- 14:02:27 [Zakim]
- +AndyS; got it
- 14:02:42 [AxelPolleres]
- Zakim, who is on the phone?
- 14:02:54 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see kasei (muted), AxelPolleres, bglimm, AlexPassant, SimonS1, SteveH, AndyS
- 14:03:23 [Zakim]
- + +2
- 14:03:34 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, +2 is me
- 14:03:45 [Zakim]
- +KjetilK; got it
- 14:03:52 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:03:52 [Zakim]
- KjetilK should now be muted
- 14:04:00 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Many people are at SemTec and cannot attent today
- 14:04:12 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-06-16
- 14:04:13 [bglimm]
- s/attent/attend/
- 14:04:31 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: let's approve the minutes from last time
- 14:04:31 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-06-09
- 14:04:45 [bglimm]
- ... any objections? or additions?
- 14:05:03 [bglimm]
- ... nothing, so the minutes are approved
- 14:05:22 [bglimm]
- Alex: I am listed, but I wasn't there
- 14:05:44 [AxelPolleres]
- PROPOSED: Approve minutes with Alex being removed from the attendees list.
- 14:06:10 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: Axel Eric to update minutes
- 14:06:10 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-41 - Eric to update minutes [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-06-23].
- 14:06:38 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Can we approve it with the amendments?
- 14:06:39 [AxelPolleres]
- RESOLVED: Approve minutes with Alex being removed from the attendees list.
- 14:06:47 [AlexPassant]
- regrets for 2009-06-09 are there actually: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-06-02
- 14:07:07 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: next meeting is in one week, 23rd June same time
- 14:07:34 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 14:07:34 [Zakim]
- KjetilK should no longer be muted
- 14:07:49 [bglimm]
- ... scribe for next week: KjetilK
- 14:08:00 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:08:00 [Zakim]
- KjetilK should now be muted
- 14:08:01 [bglimm]
- topic: Liasions
- 14:08:04 [SimonS]
- Regrets for next week. I will be travelling, maybe I can join on IRC
- 14:08:28 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Bijan is not here, so no news from OWL and no news from RIF
- 14:08:37 [bglimm]
- .. no news from liasons today
- 14:08:43 [bglimm]
- topic: actions
- 14:09:08 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: we some open actions: 16 on LeeF continious
- 14:09:15 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 14:09:24 [bglimm]
- ... action 17 on Steve
- 14:09:35 [bglimm]
- Steve: I think that is obsolete now
- 14:09:58 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Action 19 on Ivan is open
- 14:10:21 [bglimm]
- Ivan: What is that action?
- 14:10:32 [AndyS]
- """Send to the mailing list a few example cases (data, query, results) of SELECT queries in FILTERs"""
- 14:10:34 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: We have to look that up in the minutes
- 14:10:36 [kasei]
- s/Ivan/Orri/
- 14:11:01 [bglimm]
- ... Action 28 is continued and action 32 on Simon is open
- 14:11:09 [bglimm]
- Somin: Action 32 should be completed
- 14:11:16 [bglimm]
- s/Somin/Simon/
- 14:11:25 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Action 36 is completed
- 14:11:44 [bglimm]
- ... Action 37 is completed
- 14:11:44 [kasei]
- action-38 can be closed, and is on the agenda for later
- 14:12:00 [kasei]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 14:12:00 [Zakim]
- kasei should no longer be muted
- 14:12:21 [bglimm]
- ... Action 38 on Greg is completed and can be closed
- 14:12:25 [kasei]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:12:25 [Zakim]
- kasei should now be muted
- 14:12:35 [bglimm]
- ... we have 2 open actions to review the F&R docs
- 14:12:45 [bglimm]
- ... we leave this open for now
- 14:12:55 [bglimm]
- ... action review is done
- 14:13:02 [bglimm]
- Topic: F&R Document
- 14:13:07 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 14:13:07 [Zakim]
- KjetilK should no longer be muted
- 14:13:26 [bglimm]
- kjetilK: We just 2 things open
- 14:13:36 [bglimm]
- ... the short name and the introduction
- 14:13:59 [bglimm]
- ... we have the project description
- 14:14:15 [bglimm]
- ... SteveH couldn't finish his review
- 14:14:35 [bglimm]
- ... whether Chime has reviewed is not known
- 14:14:40 [AxelPolleres]
- q?
- 14:15:03 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Lets look at the open issues for this
- 14:15:10 [bglimm]
- ... short name first
- 14:15:12 [AxelPolleres]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009AprJun/0383.html
- 14:15:21 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql-features/
- 14:15:38 [bglimm]
- ... proposal was to use the name SPARQL Features
- 14:15:54 [bglimm]
- ... but this has no version number
- 14:16:06 [bglimm]
- ... any opinions?
- 14:16:53 [bglimm]
- AndyS: Can we ask the team contact and ask what is the standard
- 14:17:19 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: They are not here at the moment
- 14:17:21 [AndyS]
- e.g. TR/xpath-datamodel/ -- no version number (and it's xpath 2.0)
- 14:17:39 [bglimm]
- ... I can ask the team contact
- 14:17:45 [AndyS]
- but /TR/xmlschema-2/
- 14:17:54 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: Axel to ask team contacts whether http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql-features/ is ok
- 14:17:54 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-42 - Ask team contacts whether http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql-features/ is ok [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-06-23].
- 14:18:12 [KjetilK]
- +1
- 14:18:22 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Can I propose to go with that name unless there is some objection from the team contact?
- 14:18:29 [bglimm]
- ... do we need a backup solution
- 14:18:32 [bglimm]
- ... ?
- 14:18:48 [AxelPolleres]
- PROPOSED: F&R will be published under http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql-features/ unless there are concerns from the team-contacts.
- 14:19:10 [AxelPolleres]
- RESOLVED: F&R will be published under http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql-features/ unless there are concerns from the team-contacts.
- 14:19:12 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Lets ressolve this and see
- 14:19:51 [bglimm]
- ... My concern is that the previous versions said RDF SPARQL and not just SPARQL
- 14:20:23 [SteveH]
- lets delagate
- 14:20:27 [KjetilK]
- +1
- 14:20:29 [bglimm]
- ... I think we can go with that for now
- 14:20:57 [bglimm]
- AndyS: your resolution says that the doc will be published like that, so that might cause a problem
- 14:21:01 [AndyS]
- NB we have not decided to publish yet
- 14:21:19 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: So should I change the resolution?
- 14:22:04 [AxelPolleres]
- PROPOSE: in case of concerns, leave the naming decision to team contacts.
- 14:22:25 [bglimm]
- .... is it ok to leave it to the team contact for the naming issues?
- 14:22:30 [bglimm]
- ... any objections?
- 14:22:36 [AxelPolleres]
- RESOLVED: in case of concerns, leave the naming decision to team contacts.
- 14:22:46 [bglimm]
- ... So, there are none and I suggest to resolve this
- 14:22:54 [bglimm]
- Topic: Introduction
- 14:23:08 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Did you incorporate what was on the wiki?
- 14:23:26 [bglimm]
- KjetilK: I havn't, but there was nothing substantial
- 14:23:26 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Features_Introduction_strawman
- 14:24:03 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: I looked ob=ver it. It is not a substantial change. It is mostly to reorder some parts
- 14:24:36 [bglimm]
- ... also there are links to the resolutions and I was hoping that this fulfils Any's concern about the timestamp feature
- 14:24:52 [AxelPolleres]
- q?
- 14:25:08 [bglimm]
- s/Any's/Andy's/
- 14:25:24 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Would such a reordering be ok?
- 14:25:33 [AlexPassant]
- q+
- 14:25:40 [bglimm]
- ... if there are no objections, I propose to change it like that.
- 14:26:06 [bglimm]
- AlexPassant: I would like to keep 1.1 and the structure of the documents
- 14:26:38 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: Alex to adopt http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Features_Introduction_strawman with two subsections.
- 14:26:38 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-43 - Adopt http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Features_Introduction_strawman with two subsections. [on Alexandre Passant - due 2009-06-23].
- 14:26:46 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: I will give you an action to adapt the document
- 14:27:07 [bglimm]
- ... any more objections?
- 14:27:20 [bglimm]
- ... none, so lets do that.
- 14:27:27 [bglimm]
- ... next, examples
- 14:27:49 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Feature:ProjectExpressions
- 14:28:17 [bglimm]
- KjetilK: I took text from the wiki and put it in the document
- 14:28:24 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/features/#Project_expressions
- 14:28:28 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Let's have a look
- 14:28:35 [KjetilK]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/features/#Project_expressions_syntax
- 14:29:04 [bglimm]
- ... should the construct with expressions be left in, for the moment it was
- 14:29:26 [bijan]
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- 14:29:27 [bglimm]
- ... it should be clear that this is not the complex expressions
- 14:29:49 [bglimm]
- ... Did you include the implementations list?
- 14:30:05 [bglimm]
- kjetilK: I havn't included that
- 14:30:32 [Zakim]
- +??P55
- 14:30:35 [bglimm]
- ... it seems that the doc is not self-contained with many links
- 14:30:37 [bijan]
- zakim, ??P55 is me
- 14:30:37 [Zakim]
- +bijan; got it
- 14:30:48 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: So you don't have any?
- 14:31:03 [AndyS]
- Checking F&O: fn:concat --> fn:string-join
- 14:31:05 [AxelPolleres]
- (simon was asking)
- 14:31:16 [AndyS]
- fn:concat implies a cast, string-join does not
- 14:31:36 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: There are some implementations listed, so should we unify that?
- 14:31:59 [KjetilK]
- AndyS: fixed :-)
- 14:32:18 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/features/#Negation
- 14:32:23 [bglimm]
- ... there are some concerns about an example in the negations subsection
- 14:32:30 [bglimm]
- .. any opinions?
- 14:32:39 [bglimm]
- ... Kjetil have you seen that email
- 14:32:49 [SteveH]
- It needs a 2nd example
- 14:32:54 [bglimm]
- kjetilK: I saw it and thought about it a bit
- 14:33:16 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: what we need is an approval of Andy because he raised the concerns?
- 14:33:28 [bglimm]
- AndyS: Which change?
- 14:33:38 [kasei]
- small typo in 2.3.3: "does not no anyone" shoudl be "does not know anyone"
- 14:33:47 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: In the negation section.
- 14:34:23 [bglimm]
- AndyS: The wording says syntax, but we actually make deeper changes
- 14:34:38 [kasei]
- I think it is strange to show an example from SeRQL for negation when there are existing SPARQL approaches...
- 14:35:02 [AndyS]
- agree with kasei
- 14:35:12 [AndyS]
- Use his impl as example.
- 14:35:17 [AxelPolleres]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009AprJun/0379.html
- 14:35:18 [SimonS]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009AprJun/0379.html
- 14:35:35 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: I just pasted the relevant mail
- 14:35:37 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:35:37 [Zakim]
- KjetilK should now be muted
- 14:36:16 [kasei]
- +1 to the rewording
- 14:36:18 [bglimm]
- AndyS: I think the new wording is better
- 14:37:26 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Is the rewording for the second part fine too?
- 14:37:31 [KjetilK]
- yes
- 14:37:35 [AlexPassant]
- +1
- 14:37:48 [bglimm]
- ... There is a second part to this
- 14:38:02 [bglimm]
- ... there was a concern that only the minor system is mentioned
- 14:38:21 [bglimm]
- ... I am not sure which systems implement UNSAID? I think only ARC.
- 14:38:27 [KjetilK]
- committed :-)
- 14:38:34 [kasei]
- I support UNSAID
- 14:38:45 [AndyS]
- s/ARC/ARQ/
- 14:38:56 [AxelPolleres]
- Orri: NOT EXISTS for SQL
- 14:39:17 [bglimm]
- ... we not need to rewrite it as NOT EXISTS in SQL syntax
- 14:39:26 [bglimm]
- s/not/would/
- 14:39:40 [bglimm]
- AndyS: Are there any examples in the wiki pages?
- 14:39:48 [SimonS]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:Negation
- 14:40:01 [SimonS]
- q+
- 14:40:10 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: I would like to see an example like the other one, expression the same thing as the other one
- 14:40:16 [AlexPassant]
- Zakim: ack me
- 14:40:19 [AlexPassant]
- q-
- 14:40:49 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: Orri to mail NOT EXISTS example.
- 14:40:49 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-44 - Mail NOT EXISTS example. [on Orri Erling - due 2009-06-23].
- 14:40:49 [bglimm]
- Ori: I can mail an example
- 14:40:51 [kasei]
- the UNSAID example in the referenced email will work in RDF::Query as-is.
- 14:41:30 [bglimm]
- s/Ori/Orri/
- 14:42:15 [AlexPassant]
- I was not actuall
- 14:42:16 [AxelPolleres]
- ack AlexPassant
- 14:42:18 [SimonS]
- Zakim, ack me
- 14:42:18 [Zakim]
- I see no one on the speaker queue
- 14:43:01 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Orri will mal an example
- 14:43:10 [bglimm]
- Orri: I can do that now.
- 14:43:22 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 14:43:22 [Zakim]
- KjetilK should no longer be muted
- 14:43:34 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: kjetil or Alex can you adopt that in the document?
- 14:43:42 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: adopt NOT EXISTS running example in F&R
- 14:43:42 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - adopt
- 14:44:05 [bglimm]
- ... where is Kasei's example?
- 14:44:05 [kasei]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 14:44:05 [Zakim]
- kasei should no longer be muted
- 14:44:20 [bglimm]
- Kasei: It's in the mail and in other places
- 14:44:41 [AxelPolleres]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009AprJun/0379.html
- 14:44:50 [kasei]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:44:50 [Zakim]
- kasei should now be muted
- 14:44:58 [AxelPolleres]
- Kasei: UNSAID works with Kasei's implementation
- 14:45:00 [AndyS]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Feature:Negation#Example
- 14:45:11 [AndyS]
- first example
- 14:45:34 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: Kjetil to adopt one more additional syntaxe UNSAID or NOT EXISTS for negation
- 14:45:35 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-45 - Adopt one more additional syntaxe UNSAID or NOT EXISTS for negation [on Kjetil Kjernsmo - due 2009-06-23].
- 14:45:57 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Until when can this be done?
- 14:46:06 [bglimm]
- kjetilK: I think immediately
- 14:46:29 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: If we have all these actions done, we need approval by two more people.
- 14:46:57 [AndyS_]
- AndyS_ has joined #sparql
- 14:47:04 [bglimm]
- ... We can still propose to publish, given that these reviews are positive given that it is a draft
- 14:47:35 [bglimm]
- ... So I need two reviewers
- 14:47:52 [bglimm]
- ... Steve, when could you look over the documents?
- 14:47:59 [bglimm]
- SteveH: early next week
- 14:48:00 [kasei]
- (very loud typing noises... bglimm, is that you?)
- 14:48:15 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Could anybody do that earlier.
- 14:48:29 [bglimm]
- Simon: I can also do that early next week
- 14:48:31 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: Simon to review F&R
- 14:48:31 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-46 - Review F&R [on Simon Schenk - due 2009-06-23].
- 14:49:19 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Kjetil can you incorporate the changes today after the meeting?
- 14:49:23 [bglimm]
- kjetikK: yes
- 14:49:39 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: So next week we can decide whether we can publish or not
- 14:49:56 [bglimm]
- ... is there anything more on F&R
- 14:50:24 [AxelPolleres]
- Postpone decision to next telecon (hopefully really ONLY the decision)
- 14:51:40 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: Axel to ask team contact to approve patent text (currently commented in the document).
- 14:51:40 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-47 - Ask team contact to approve patent text (currently commented in the document). [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-06-23].
- 14:52:16 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: nothing else? No, so lets move on.
- 14:52:28 [bglimm]
- ... to Service Descriptions
- 14:52:33 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: service descriptions
- 14:52:34 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Feature:ServiceDescriptions
- 14:52:52 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:52:52 [Zakim]
- KjetilK should now be muted
- 14:52:52 [bglimm]
- ... last week two actions were completed on this
- 14:53:10 [kasei]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 14:53:10 [Zakim]
- kasei should no longer be muted
- 14:53:25 [bglimm]
- ... Greg, can you tell us what you did?
- 14:53:26 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/38
- 14:53:35 [bglimm]
- Greg: I have posted a list on the wiki
- 14:53:48 [AxelPolleres]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009AprJun/0380.html
- 14:53:49 [bglimm]
- ... with things I suggest should be standardised
- 14:55:13 [AndyS]
- q+ to ask about SPARQL/1.0 (minor)
- 14:56:17 [AxelPolleres]
- ack AndyS
- 14:56:17 [Zakim]
- AndyS, you wanted to ask about SPARQL/1.0 (minor)
- 14:56:38 [bglimm]
- AndyS: we need to put the version number of the SPARQL features in
- 14:57:10 [AxelPolleres]
- q+ to ask whether default should be SPARQL 1.0
- 14:57:52 [AndyS]
- ack me
- 14:58:25 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: Can we have an assumption that SPARQL 1.0 is the default
- 14:58:31 [SimonS]
- Sounds like a chicken and egg problem: Need SPARQL/1.1 to say I am a SPARQL/1.0 endpoint
- 14:58:38 [SteveH]
- +1 to no defaulting
- 14:58:51 [bglimm]
- AndyS: I don't think. If the system does not say anything, then it is not supporting any particular version
- 14:59:10 [AxelPolleres]
- seems agreement that no default behavior should be assumed/defined.
- 14:59:38 [bglimm]
- ... Greg, do you have an example for the connection RI?
- 14:59:58 [AndyS]
- +1 to naming all built-ins with URIs.
- 14:59:59 [bglimm]
- Greg: for new features, such as aggregate functions, it makes sense to give them new URI's
- 15:00:36 [bglimm]
- ... at the moment we don't have URIs for all features
- 15:01:07 [bglimm]
- Greg: I think there was support for using URIs instead of keywords
- 15:01:29 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: should we have URIs for libraries or URIs for all features?
- 15:01:32 [AndyS]
- and that they should work as a function call. Except BOUND, || and && which are not strict functions (they are technically special forms)
- 15:01:51 [bglimm]
- Greg: That might depend on the decision of whether or not we will have function libraries
- 15:02:02 [AndyS]
- Axel: do we want also to name libraries?
- 15:02:21 [AxelPolleres]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009AprJun/0380.html
- 15:02:26 [bglimm]
- AxelPolleres: We are running out of time, so we might have to contibnue this discussion on mail.
- 15:02:49 [bglimm]
- ... I have to talk to Lee on how we proceed now and where we continue
- 15:03:14 [bglimm]
- ... whether we should focus on the features or whether we should flesh out the time allowed features in the F&R document
- 15:03:34 [bglimm]
- ... Any other things for the agenda?
- 15:03:45 [Zakim]
- -[IPcaller]
- 15:03:46 [bglimm]
- ... No, so see you next week.
- 15:03:49 [Zakim]
- -SteveH
- 15:03:50 [Zakim]
- -KjetilK
- 15:03:50 [AxelPolleres]
- Adjourn.
- 15:03:52 [Zakim]
- -SimonS1
- 15:03:54 [Zakim]
- -AlexPassant
- 15:03:54 [Zakim]
- -bijan
- 15:03:59 [AxelPolleres]
- Thanks all!
- 15:04:00 [Zakim]
- -kasei
- 15:04:06 [Zakim]
- -AndyS
- 15:04:32 [Zakim]
- -AxelPolleres
- 15:04:32 [SteveH_]
- SteveH_ has joined #sparql
- 15:04:40 [AxelPolleres]
- Zakim, list attendees
- 15:04:40 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been +049261287aaaa, +1.518.276.aabb, kasei, +3539149aacc, AxelPolleres, bglimm, AlexPassant, +49.261.287.aadd, SimonS1, SteveH, AndyS, KjetilK,
- 15:04:44 [Zakim]
- ... [IPcaller], bijan
- 15:04:55 [AxelPolleres]
- rrsagent, draft minutes please
- 15:04:55 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/16-sparql-minutes.html AxelPolleres
- 15:05:32 [bijan]
- Axel, Is lee going to do the clean up of the minutes?
- 15:05:49 [kasei]
- kasei has left #sparql
- 15:06:02 [AxelPolleres]
- bijan, I need to check with him
- 15:06:09 [SimonS]
- SimonS has left #sparql
- 15:06:20 [bglimm]
- Let me know if i have to do anything on the minutes
- 15:06:41 [AxelPolleres]
- The minutes magic was done by eric/bijan so far.
- 15:06:52 [AxelPolleres]
- s/bijan/lee/
- 15:06:55 [bijan]
- Yes
- 15:06:56 [bijan]
- Lee
- 15:06:57 [bijan]
- Not me
- 15:07:00 [bglimm]
- At the moment, I get insufficient access privileges if I try to access the minutes
- 15:07:01 [bijan]
- Definitely not me
- 15:07:15 [bijan]
- rrsagent, make minutes public
- 15:07:15 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', bijan. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 15:07:38 [AxelPolleres]
- yeah, I got the same problem with the rrsagent last week already.
- 15:07:53 [bijan]
- rrsagent,publish minutes
- 15:07:53 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/16-sparql-minutes.html bijan
- 15:08:21 [bijan]
- I think the team member has to twiddle a bit
- 15:09:10 [bglimm]
- Ok, so can I leave? My russian course started at 4, so I'll be late anyway
- 15:09:18 [bijan]
- Yep
- 15:09:43 [Zakim]
- -bglimm
- 15:09:45 [Zakim]
- SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
- 15:09:46 [Zakim]
- Attendees were +049261287aaaa, +1.518.276.aabb, kasei, +3539149aacc, AxelPolleres, bglimm, AlexPassant, +49.261.287.aadd, SimonS1, SteveH, AndyS, KjetilK, [IPcaller], bijan
- 15:10:17 [ericP]
- RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
- 15:10:35 [AxelPolleres]
- will figure it out with the others... ah, thanks ericP
- 15:10:55 [AxelPolleres]
- ericP, can you take care of the nicely formatted minutes?
- 16:04:18 [AxelPolleres]
- alright, all taken care of.
- 17:23:18 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #sparql