IRC log of pling on 2009-06-10
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- 12:07:12 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-pling-irc
- 12:07:20 [rigo]
- rrsagent, please set log public
- 12:07:31 [rigo]
- zakim, this is pling
- 12:07:31 [Zakim]
- ok, rigo; that matches P3P_PLING()8:00AM
- 12:07:38 [rigo]
- zakim, who is here?
- 12:07:38 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see ??P3, +358.504.87aaaa, +0496221434aabb, +49.896.004.aacc
- 12:07:41 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, rigo, assadarat, renato
- 12:07:49 [Zakim]
- +Lalana
- 12:07:53 [rigo]
- zakim, code?
- 12:07:53 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 75464 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), rigo
- 12:08:28 [Zakim]
- +Rigo
- 12:09:00 [jgirao]
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- 12:09:01 [rigo]
- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/Policy/pling/wiki/2009-06-10
- 12:09:05 [rigo]
- chair: renato
- 12:09:09 [rigo]
- scribe: rigo
- 12:09:15 [rigo]
- scribenick: rigo
- 12:09:55 [rigo]
- present+ rigo, renato, hannes
- 12:11:03 [rigo]
- present+ Lalana, Andreas, Joao_Girao
- 12:11:29 [lkagal]
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- 12:13:11 [rigo]
- action: rigo and Renato to follow up with media annotation group for policy integration --PENDING
- 12:14:04 [rigo]
- agenda+ media annotations
- 12:14:22 [rigo]
- Topic: Geolocation Privacy
- 12:15:33 [rigo]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-geolocation/
- 12:20:37 [rigo]
- HT: it is more than API, it is collecting location data from local sensor sending location data to server
- 12:20:45 [matheusa]
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- 12:21:27 [rigo]
- RW: if no UI..
- 12:21:47 [rigo]
- HT: than it is even more of a problem as you can't ask for consent
- 12:22:44 [rigo]
- HT: latitude and fire eagle are all about presence
- 12:24:34 [rigo]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-geolocation/2009Jun/0003.html
- 12:26:03 [rigo]
- HT: once you have collected geodata, you need a sticky policy
- 12:27:44 [renato]
- action: HT to send link on sticky policies to list
- 12:28:30 [rigo]
- HT: Geopriv started to draft a new document to explain geopriv on a high level
- 12:32:56 [rigo]
- HT: some fancy negotiations were proposed, but geolocation WG reluctant to even implement most basic privacy tools
- 12:34:23 [rigo]
- HT: some provided example specification and implementation, so its not so complicated
- 12:35:00 [rigo]
- HT: some want to collect all information as it is valuable and don't want to deal with the complicated privacy stuff
- 12:39:06 [rigo]
- LK: will need some damage before they are eager to pedal back
- 12:41:12 [rigo]
- RW: it is like cookies
- 12:41:31 [rigo]
- HT: it is the same, so many of them and not want to ask ever again
- 12:46:06 [lkagal]
- Alessandra Toninelli, Ora Lassila, Deepali Khushraj, and Rebecca Montanari: What's on Users' Minds? Empowering Smart Phones with a Socially-Aware Policy Model. IEEE Pervasive Computing, Special Issue on Smarter Phones, April 2009.
- 12:46:32 [Zakim]
- - +0496221434aabb
- 12:51:37 [rigo]
- agenda?
- 12:54:29 [rigo]
- RI: report from Social Web XG and relations to PLING. SC XG will form privacy task force eventually that should also talk to PLING
- 12:54:42 [rigo]
- zakim, next agendum
- 12:54:42 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "media annotations" taken up [from rigo]
- 12:58:21 [rigo]
- zakim, who is making noise
- 12:58:21 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who is making noise', rigo
- 12:58:24 [rigo]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 12:58:35 [Zakim]
- rigo, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P3 (4%), +358.504.87aaaa (50%), +49.896.004.aacc (74%), Rigo (15%)
- 12:58:42 [rigo]
- zakim, drop aacc
- 12:58:42 [Zakim]
- +49.896.004.aacc is being disconnected
- 12:58:46 [Zakim]
- - +49.896.004.aacc
- 12:59:43 [rigo]
- action: Rigo and Renato to create wiki page for offical requirement to media annotation wg requiring URI ref mechanism for policy
- 13:02:16 [rigo]
- next call 8 july 2009
- 13:02:30 [Zakim]
- -Rigo
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- -??P3
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- - +358.504.87aaaa
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- -Lalana
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- P3P_PLING()8:00AM has ended
- 13:02:37 [Zakim]
- Attendees were +358.504.87aaaa, +0496221434aabb, +49.896.004.aacc, Lalana, Rigo
- 13:02:38 [rigo]
- rrsagent, please draft minutes
- 13:02:38 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-pling-minutes.html rigo
- 13:02:53 [rigo]
- rrsagent, bye
- 13:02:53 [RRSAgent]
- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-pling-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: rigo and Renato to follow up with media annotation group for policy integration --PENDING [1]
- 13:02:53 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-pling-irc#T12-13-11
- 13:02:53 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: HT to send link on sticky policies to list [2]
- 13:02:53 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-pling-irc#T12-27-44
- 13:02:53 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Rigo and Renato to create wiki page for offical requirement to media annotation wg requiring URI ref mechanism for policy [3]
- 13:02:53 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-pling-irc#T12-59-43
- 13:03:03 [rigo]
- zakim, bye
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