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12:43:48 <kerry> zakim, this will be INC_SSN 
12:43:48 <Zakim> ok, kerry; I see INC_SSN()9:00AM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
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12:50:40 <michael_> Hi Kerry
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12:53:19 <kerry> agenda+ roll call
12:53:26 <kerry> agenda +apologies
12:53:38 <kerry> agenda +mpeg-v
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12:54:08 <kerry> agenda + eswc
12:54:19 <kerry> agenda + OGC-TC
12:54:50 <kerry> aenda +f2f
12:54:57 <kerry> agenda + f2f
12:55:04 <kerry> agenda +ssn09
12:55:08 <kerry> agenda + aob
12:55:27 <kerry> michael -- are you doing minutes, please?
12:56:07 <kerry> scribenick michael_
12:56:36 <kerry> scribenick: michael_
12:57:10 <kerry> ScribeNick: michael_
12:57:35 <michael_> Yes.
12:57:42 <Zakim> INC_SSN()9:00AM has now started
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12:57:58 <kerry> Meeting: SSN XG 09-June-2009
12:58:12 <kerry> chair: kerry
12:58:19 <kerry> Chair: kerry
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12:59:16 <krp> zakim, +0797376aaaa is krp
12:59:16 <Zakim> +krp; got it
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12:59:59 <michael_> zakim, ??P1 is michael_
12:59:59 <Zakim> +michael_; got it
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13:04:28 <michael_> agenda?
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13:05:00 <Victor> hello
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13:06:30 <Victor> zakim, josema is me
13:06:30 <Zakim> +Victor; got it
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13:08:26 <michael_> applogies - Holger & Oscar
13:08:36 <michael_> Topic : MPEG-V
13:10:12 <michael_> Kerry: review of last meeting and traffic on mailing list
13:10:43 <michael_> Kerry: we have some responsibility to reply
13:11:13 <michael_> Kerry: wait for feedback from Wonsuk
13:11:19 <krp> +1
13:11:19 <michael_> +1
13:11:31 <cory> +1
13:11:31 <Manfred_DERI> +1
13:11:36 <Victor> +1
13:11:39 <Luis_Bermudez> +1
13:11:41 <Danh_DERI> +1
13:11:41 <krzysztofJ> +1
13:11:58 <michael_> action: Kerry to communicate with wonsuk
13:12:18 <michael_> topic: ESWC
13:12:50 <michael_> Cory: Oscar's presentation is on the wiki
13:15:20 <michael_> Cory: Presentations -> SemSensWeb2009 Summary
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13:18:07 <Victor> zakim, rodrigo is with me
13:18:07 <Zakim> +rodrigo; got it
13:20:14 <michael_> Cory: a mindmap of topics discussed at the workshop also going onto wiki
13:20:50 <Manfred_DERI> q
13:21:06 <michael_> AmitS: what are our expectations for our ISWC workshop?
13:22:04 <michael_> Manfred_DERI: real deployments are important - there is a conflict here between publications and building networks
13:22:58 <michael_> ... there is some discrepancy between theory and practice in this area
13:23:36 <michael_> ... we should give more credit to practical things (whether they worked or not)
13:25:45 <michael_> Kerry: This is very much part of what the sensor network community is concerned about.
13:26:34 <michael_> ... much of the semantic work is with SWE standards, in which case it's a step away from the sensor network itself.
13:27:54 <michael_> Manfred_DERI: not arguing that all papers should be practical, but that we should highlight those that are.
13:28:28 <krzysztofJ> q
13:28:55 <kerry> ack krzysztof
13:29:34 <michael_> krzysztofJ: supports Manfred's point that deployment should be publishable. 
13:30:34 <michael_> AmitS: we are making a billion triple dataset.  We could provide that as data.
13:30:44 <Manfred_DERI> I support Amt's idea
13:31:26 <Luis_Bermudez> q
13:32:02 <michael_> AmitS: weather sensor data
13:32:26 <kerry> I agree -  data is hard to get and very useful for everyone
13:32:37 <michael_> Luis_Bermudez: we could provide ocean data
13:33:05 <michael_> sounds like great idea
13:34:20 <krzysztofJ> good idea!
13:34:50 <michael_> AmitS: this can be the start of a community of public datasets
13:35:09 <michael_> Kerry: make this an outcome/deliverable of the group
13:35:22 <michael_> AmitS: can host it for the time being
13:37:59 <michael_> action: Amit to review this idea and bring it back to the group
13:38:09 <kerry> agenda?
13:38:27 <michael_> topic: OGC-TC
13:39:22 <michael_> Lui_Bermudez: I'm going to the meeting and have time to talk.
13:40:06 <michael_> AmitS: Talk about our objectives, what we have and expected outcomes - and show value to the OGC audience.
13:41:43 <michael_> action: Luis will start a presentation and send to the group for review and input. 
13:42:02 <michael_> topic: f2f
13:42:59 <michael_> Kerry: we were waiting for ISWC schedule before setting f2f time, ISWC timetable not out yet, so delay again until ready?
13:43:15 <krp> +1, wait for full schedule
13:43:23 <michael_> +1
13:43:46 <Manfred_DERI> +1
13:45:18 <michael_> action: review the timing of f2f at next meeting
13:46:39 <michael_> Kerry: Luis and George Mason are options for venue.
13:47:17 <michael_> Kerry: wait for setting date before following up on venue.
13:47:27 <michael_> topic: ssn09
13:47:55 <michael_> Kerry: call for papers is out, website it out
13:48:13 <michael_> Kerry: submission system up within a week
13:48:43 <michael_> kevin: Where else should we advertise?
13:48:58 <Manfred_DERI> I will distribute it to the related projects I am involved in.
13:49:14 <michael_> Kerry: Suggestions via email.
13:49:29 <krp> List of where the call has been/is being sent: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Ssn09
13:49:50 <kerry> agenda?
13:49:53 <krp> Please forward widely, any other places to send, drop me an email!
13:50:07 <michael_> topic : aob
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13:51:27 <michael_> action: review survey paper at next meeting
13:51:36 <cory> bye
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13:51:37 <Luis_Bermudez> chao
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13:52:26 <michael_> zakim, bye
13:52:26 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +3539149aabb, krp, michael_, +49.25.aacc, +1.585.919.aadd, +34.91.729.aaee, +1.937.775.aaff, +1.202.408.aagg, Victor, rodrigo
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13:52:43 <michael_> rrsagent, make log public
13:53:05 <michael_> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:53:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-ssn-minutes.html michael_
13:53:12 <kerry> bye
13:53:35 <krzysztofJ> bye
13:53:36 <michael_> rrsagent, bye
13:53:36 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-ssn-actions.rdf :
13:53:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kerry to communicate with wonsuk [1]
13:53:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-ssn-irc#T13-11-58
13:53:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Amit to review this idea and bring it back to the group [2]
13:53:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-ssn-irc#T13-37-59
13:53:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Luis will start a presentation and send to the group for review and input.  [3]
13:53:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-ssn-irc#T13-41-43
13:53:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: review the timing of f2f at next meeting [4]
13:53:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-ssn-irc#T13-45-18
13:53:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: review survey paper at next meeting [5]
13:53:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/09-ssn-irc#T13-51-27