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18:55:03 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18N
18:55:03 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; I see I18N_CoreWG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
18:55:10 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set record I18N
18:55:19 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
18:55:28 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set minutes public
18:55:28 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'set minutes public', aphillip.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
18:55:49 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization Core Teleconference
18:55:53 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
18:55:58 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
18:56:03 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
18:56:10 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
18:56:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/03-core-minutes.html aphillip
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18:56:29 <aphillip> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Core_Homework
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18:57:26 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()3:00PM has now started
18:57:33 <Zakim> + +1.303.945.aaaa
18:58:02 <YvesS> zakim, 303.945.aaaa is YvesS
18:58:02 <Zakim> sorry, YvesS, I do not recognize a party named '303.945.aaaa'
18:58:16 <aphillip> zakim, +1.303 is YvesS
18:58:16 <Zakim> +YvesS; got it
18:58:35 <Zakim> + +1.441.418.aabb
18:58:42 <Zakim> + +1.408.790.aacc
18:59:17 <David> zakim +1.441 is David
18:59:18 <Zakim> +??P6
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19:02:06 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Core_Homework
19:02:35 <aphillip> Topic: Minutes and Agenda
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19:03:28 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
19:03:28 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
19:03:30 <Zakim> +Richard
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19:04:38 <Zakim> +[Oracle]
19:04:54 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
19:05:11 <aphillip> all to read http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-bidi-unicode-controls and send comments, so that we can take decision next week to go to wide review 
19:05:25 <aphillip> r12a to get contact info for Shaun McCance for Yves from Liam 
19:05:53 <aphillip> nobody knows
19:06:43 <aphillip> addison: write to html-wg and see if there is a good review milestone upcoming 
19:07:01 <aphillip> richard: provide something to fill in the new beta site page 
19:07:20 <aphillip> richard wrote something for it but it isn't changed at
19:07:29 <aphillip> s/changed at/changed yet/
19:07:39 <aphillip> Richard: reply to phil's note confirming closure of the powder issue 
19:07:48 <aphillip> no
19:07:55 <aphillip> Addison: ask UTC and Mark Davis (our liasion) for an opinion 
19:08:07 <aphillip> need to forward to list
19:08:23 <aphillip> Addison: send our revised proposed text to XML Core 
19:08:39 <aphillip> done
19:08:50 <r12a> yves: shaunm@gnome.org should work
19:08:53 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
19:09:40 <aphillip> richard: EC project proposal was submitted Tuesday (yesterday)... now wait and see if funded
19:10:10 <aphillip> お疲れ様
19:10:16 <aphillip> cool.
19:10:44 <aphillip> richard: speaking at localization world next week
19:10:52 <aphillip> ... and then at felix's university
19:11:00 <aphillip> ... about JLTF doc
19:11:09 <aphillip> ... almost ready to publish
19:11:15 <aphillip> ... a few graphics need help
19:11:20 <aphillip> ... but hoping for tomorrow
19:11:36 <felix> info about r12a's talk at http://www.w3c.de/Events/2009/ishida-talk20090611 (in German)
19:12:12 <aphillip> Topic: QA Bidi Controls
19:12:13 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-bidi-unicode-controls
19:12:57 <aphillip> richard: would like to send for wide review
19:13:32 <aphillip> addison: call for comments
19:13:48 <aphillip> ... or object to sending for review
19:14:15 <aphillip> ACTION: Richard: publish qa-bidi-unicode-controls to wide review
19:14:49 <aphillip> Topic: Styling of Complex Ruby 
19:14:58 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009AprJun/0064.html
19:15:34 <aphillip> The suggested fix for the issue raised is to add an 'auto' value to 'ruby-position'. This value would become the default and would make the default position for the first RTC element be on the 'before' edge of the base text and the default position for the second RTC element be on the 'after' edge of the base text (as shown in the examples in the Ruby Annotation Recommendation http://www.w3.org/TR/ruby/#complex ) Rob Steiner's message also suggests that havin
19:16:32 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/Style/Group/css3-src/css3-ruby/
19:18:12 <aphillip> how is 'auto' different from what is there now?
19:20:42 <aphillip> richard: bopomofo doesn't seem to actually work
19:20:50 <aphillip> ... not sure that was understood
19:22:53 <aphillip> ACTION: Richard: respond on our behalf to CSS on ruby issue
19:23:09 <aphillip> Topic: EARL review
19:23:20 <aphillip>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2009AprJun/0083.html
19:24:20 <aphillip> any volunteers to lead review of EARL?
19:24:27 <aphillip> richard: its very short
19:25:30 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/TR/EARL10/
19:25:53 <andrewc> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Guide-20090422
19:27:37 <aphillip> addison: can glance at it; andrew will also glance at it
19:27:57 <aphillip> Topic: Email Architecture 
19:28:06 <aphillip>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009AprJun/0056.html
19:28:50 <aphillip> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-crocker-email-arch-13
19:29:38 <aphillip> any interest in considering this for review?
19:30:25 <aphillip> ACTION: Addison: ping Martin and Mark to see if they're interested in crocker-email-arch
19:30:40 <aphillip> Topic: HTML5 and encoding detection 
19:31:17 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2009AprJun/0035.html
19:31:50 <aphillip> richard: ... more than just the defautl encoding
19:32:25 <aphillip> ... mostly about encoding detection
19:32:56 <aphillip> addison: also side threads about declaring encoding
19:54:26 <aphillip> watch issue; participate as individuals for now
19:54:47 <aphillip> plus follow up on html5 i18n review in general
19:55:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/03-core-minutes.html aphillip
19:55:21 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
19:55:50 <Zakim> -aphillip
19:55:51 <Zakim> -Felix
19:55:53 <Zakim> -YvesS
19:55:54 <Zakim> -dchiba
19:55:54 <Zakim> -Richard
19:55:57 <Zakim> -andrewc
19:56:10 <Zakim> -David
19:56:11 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()3:00PM has ended
19:56:12 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.303.945.aaaa, YvesS, +1.441.418.aabb, +1.408.790.aacc, aphillip, David, Felix, andrewc, Richard, [Oracle], dchiba
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20:06:01 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
20:06:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/03-core-minutes.html aphillip
20:06:05 <aphillip> zakim, bye
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20:06:12 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
20:06:12 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/03-core-actions.rdf :
20:06:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Richard: publish qa-bidi-unicode-controls to wide review [1]
20:06:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/03-core-irc#T19-14-15
20:06:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Richard: respond on our behalf to CSS on ruby issue [2]
20:06:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/03-core-irc#T19-22-53
20:06:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Addison: ping Martin and Mark to see if they're interested in crocker-email-arch [3]
20:06:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/03-core-irc#T19-30-25