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14:58:27 <TomB> rrsagent, bookmark
14:58:27 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-irc#T14-58-27
14:58:35 <TomB> zakim, this will be swd
14:58:35 <Zakim> ok, TomB, I see SW_SWD()11:00AM already started
14:59:30 <TomB> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jun/0001.html
15:00:06 <TomB> scribenick: berrueta
15:00:11 <TomB> scribe: Diego
15:00:16 <berrueta> -> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html previous minutes
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15:00:30 <TomB> Meeting: SWD WG
15:00:33 <TomB> Chair: Tom
15:00:43 <TomB> rrsagent, please make record public
15:01:16 <Ralph> +Ralph
15:01:40 <Ralph> +Tom
15:01:47 <Ralph> +Diego
15:03:03 <Ralph> +Antoine
15:03:31 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot ssome history of Zakim
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15:04:25 <Ralph> +Sean
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15:05:33 <Clay> Hello Tom!
15:06:33 <Ralph> +Clay
15:07:16 <Ralph> +Ed
15:07:40 <berrueta> topic: Admin
15:07:46 <berrueta> PROPOSED to accept minutes of the last telecon
15:07:58 <berrueta> RESOLVED to accept minutes of the May 19 telecon: http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html
15:08:07 <berrueta> topic: SKOS
15:08:17 <berrueta> ACTION: Sean send notice to the list when Appendix C is ready for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action04]
15:08:20 <berrueta> --done
15:08:28 <berrueta> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009May/0072.html Sean's message
15:08:37 <berrueta> ACTION: Ralph to raise issue-214 with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
15:08:39 <berrueta> --continues
15:08:44 <berrueta> ACTION: Guus to prepare the request for PR [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action07]
15:08:49 <berrueta> --done
15:09:01 <berrueta> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jun/0000.html PR request
15:09:28 <berrueta> ** SKOS Primer
15:09:33 <berrueta> TomB: status?
15:09:41 <berrueta> Antoine: content is ready, nothing to change
15:09:56 <berrueta> ... only thing to change is the status section and the links
15:10:36 <berrueta> Ralph: this version is intended to be a WD or a Note?
15:11:07 <berrueta> TomB: last week we proposed to publish SKOS Primer as a Note at the time the final SKOS REC is published
15:11:15 <berrueta> ... we still have a couple of meetings before that
15:11:21 <berrueta> ** SKOS use cases
15:11:39 <berrueta> TomB: there is a similar resolution for the SKOS UC
15:11:50 <berrueta> ... which is the status?
15:11:54 <Antoine> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html
15:12:03 <berrueta> Antoine: exactly the same as the Primer from the process perspective
15:12:26 <berrueta> ** SKOS Implementation report
15:12:40 <edsu> Clay++
15:12:49 <Clay> edsu++
15:13:00 <Ralph> Three cheers for Clay and Ed
15:13:07 <berrueta> TomB: congrats to edsu and Clay for the lcsh
15:13:19 <Antoine> :me +1 :-)
15:13:30 <Clay> Antoine++
15:13:35 <berrueta> TomB: any comments on how it was received? any discussion relevant to the WG?
15:13:47 <berrueta> Clay: getting a lot of feedback on the UI
15:13:59 <berrueta> ... also on concept coordination
15:15:01 <berrueta> edsu: I talked to ralph about the details of moving to new domain
15:15:19 <berrueta> ... right now URLs are redirecting permanently to the new ones
15:15:56 <edsu> Antoine++
15:15:58 <berrueta> Clay: thank you also to Antoine
15:16:29 <Ralph> [I'm not seeing http://id.loc.gov/authorities/ cited yet from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Congress_Subject_Headings ]
15:16:43 <Ralph> s/talked to/would like to talk with
15:17:37 <berrueta> ACTION: Sean to complete implementation report by 19th [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05]
15:17:39 <berrueta> --done
15:17:44 <berrueta> SKOS Implementation report -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009May/0070.html
15:17:57 <berrueta> topic: SKOS collaterals
15:18:07 <berrueta> TomB: redirection pages
15:18:36 <berrueta> Ralph: I asked Ian Jacobs about the preferred term: superseeded version
15:19:40 <berrueta> TomB: redirections for the SKOS Mapping vocab spec and Quick guide
15:20:07 <berrueta> Antoine: the only issue to deal with is branding, see agenda
15:21:20 <berrueta> PROPOSED change references to "SKOS 2008" to read "SKOS 2009" in the redirection pages in legacy SKOS core specifications
15:21:38 <berrueta> TomB: any discussion? (no objections)
15:21:50 <berrueta> RESOLVED: change references to "SKOS 2008" to read "SKOS 2009" in the redirection pages in legacy SKOS core specifications
15:22:13 <berrueta> Ralph: I'm already changing the references
15:23:09 <berrueta> TomB: wikipedia page on SKOS is outdated
15:23:20 <berrueta> ... i don't think we can assign actions to do anything about that
15:23:44 <berrueta> ... this is one of the last telecons of the group, no time to track an action on this
15:24:28 <berrueta> ** SKOS community after SWD
15:25:02 <berrueta> Ralph: allow access for Alistair
15:25:17 <berrueta> ... Antoine also has access
15:25:44 <berrueta> TomB: what happens if they cannot update it?
15:25:53 <berrueta> Ralph: we don't have any special process for this
15:26:23 <berrueta> ... if there is someone else in the community that volunteers to help, how we proceed?
15:26:37 <berrueta> ... usually decision by the team and the editors
15:27:10 <berrueta> Antoine: maybe we should add a note at the bottom
15:28:02 <berrueta> Ralph: I don't like adding a note at the bottom at the page, candidates must ping us instead
15:28:31 <berrueta> ... anyway if the current maintainers cannot update it anymore, a note can be added then asking for help
15:29:43 <berrueta> TomB: scope of that page mainly on activities under w3c umbrella, with external links to the community
15:30:59 <Ralph> +Guus
15:31:05 <berrueta> Ralph: will fix the typo with the mailing list in the status section
15:31:16 <berrueta> berrueta: maybe someone sent messages to the wrong mailing list?
15:31:29 <berrueta> Ralph: will double check the archives
15:31:46 <berrueta> topic: RDFa
15:31:48 <berrueta> ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
15:31:50 <berrueta> --continues
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15:32:23 <berrueta> Ralph: reports on last week telecons, see minutes -> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/28-rdfa-minutes.html
15:33:27 <berrueta> ... TF discussing whether lauching a XG or IG to carry on the technical discussion and being a forum to answer questions from the community on RDFa deployment
15:33:34 <Guus> Guus has joined #swd
15:34:12 <berrueta> ... discussing priorities for technical work
15:34:35 <berrueta> topic: Recipes
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15:34:56 <Ralph> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:34:56 <Zakim> sorry, Ralph, I don't know what conference this is
15:34:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see Guus, Clay, edsu, Ralph, seanb, RRSAgent, TomB, berrueta, Antoine
15:35:00 <Ralph> zakim, this is swd
15:35:00 <Zakim> ok, Ralph; that matches SW_SWD()11:00AM
15:35:01 <Ralph> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:35:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see Tom, Diego, Ralph, Antoine, Sean, Clay, Ed
15:35:09 <berrueta> TomB: we should have this published as a Note
15:35:28 <Zakim> +??P18
15:35:29 <Zakim> -??P18
15:35:29 <Zakim> +??P18
15:36:14 <berrueta> ... we need to move http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ to W3C space
15:37:54 <berrueta> TomB: which are the changes?
15:38:09 <berrueta> berrueta: slight change on the Apache directives
15:38:12 <Ralph> -> http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/diff.html diffs from editor's draft
15:38:25 <berrueta> TomB: the change is small enough without a new review
15:38:35 <berrueta> PROPOSED to publish update of Recipes WG Note:
15:38:35 <berrueta> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0017.html
15:38:51 <berrueta> RESOLVED to publish update of Recipes WG Note:
15:38:51 <berrueta> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0017.html
15:38:59 <berrueta> Guus: I agree
15:39:07 <berrueta> ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]
15:39:08 <berrueta> --drop
15:39:25 <berrueta> ACTION: Ralph to publish http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ as a WG Note
15:40:30 <berrueta> Ralph: (about action on Wordnet) we don't want to miss it, but it is not realistic to expect it done
15:40:31 <berrueta> ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in 
15:40:32 <berrueta> http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
15:40:42 <berrueta> --dropped
15:41:02 <berrueta> TomB: we have it in the minutes notes anyway
15:42:11 <berrueta> TomB: there was some discussion on the list about content negotiation
15:42:28 <berrueta> ... any comments? (no)
15:42:33 <berrueta> topic: RDFa metadata note
15:42:56 <berrueta> TomB: we have an ED, it was our intention to publish a Note
15:43:38 <Zakim> with apologies -- another irc bot restart needed to recover a bridge connection
15:43:50 <berrueta> ... there are some issues and notes in the text
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15:44:10 <Ralph> zakim, this is swd
15:44:10 <Zakim> ok, Ralph; that matches SW_SWD()11:00AM
15:46:02 <berrueta> berrueta: i suggest to get it published as WD, even without fixing the open issues
15:46:48 <berrueta> TomB: we should try to publish it in W3C space
15:47:20 <berrueta> ... can Ralph move it out of the wiki into WG space
15:47:29 <berrueta> ... ?
15:48:04 <berrueta> Ralph: strange to publish an initial draft at the end of the WG
15:49:13 <Guus> +1 for input to RDFa outreach
15:49:14 <berrueta> ... we can move it to WG space as a ED
15:49:22 <berrueta> edsu: +1
15:49:39 <berrueta> ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]
15:49:43 <berrueta> --dropped
15:50:45 <berrueta> Guus: how we make it officially?
15:50:57 <berrueta> Ralph: no special process is required (WG space is not /TR space)
15:51:23 <berrueta> ... just removing it from the wiki attachment
15:51:42 <berrueta> Guus: fine with that
15:52:33 <berrueta> ACTION: Ralph to move current ED of the RDFa metadata note from wiki to WG space
15:53:29 <berrueta> Guus: we need some telecons to get testimonials and feedback from AC reps
15:53:30 <Ralph> regrets for 16 June
15:53:43 <berrueta> ... I'm at risk for next telecon
15:54:26 <berrueta> TomB: proposed next telecon Jun 23
15:54:59 <berrueta> Ralph: chapter extension for a couple of weeks
15:55:06 <edsu> seanb++
15:55:13 <Ralph> Three cheers for Sean !
15:55:18 <Ralph> s/chapter/charter
15:55:29 <berrueta> Guus: thanks to seanb for impl report
15:55:56 <Ralph> zakim, ??p18 is Guus
15:55:56 <Zakim> +Guus; got it
15:56:13 <Ralph> +Diego
15:56:57 <berrueta> Ralph: thank you to Tom and guus for leading us forward
15:57:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html Ralph
15:57:25 <TomB> Meeting is adjourned.
15:57:26 <berrueta> [adjourned]
15:57:57 <Ralph> zakim, list attendees
15:57:57 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Tom, Ralph, Antoine, Sean, Clay, Ed, Guus
15:58:34 <Zakim> -Sean
15:58:35 <Zakim> -Tom
15:58:38 <Zakim> -Clay
15:58:39 <Zakim> -Guus
15:58:59 <Zakim> -Antoine
15:59:08 <Zakim> -Ed
15:59:09 <Zakim> -Ralph
15:59:09 <Zakim> SW_SWD()11:00AM has ended
15:59:10 <Zakim> Attendees were Tom, Ralph, Antoine, Sean, Clay, Ed, Guus
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15:59:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html Ralph
15:59:43 <Ralph> zakim, bye
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