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11:56:54 <wbailer> zakim, this will be MAWG
11:56:54 <Zakim> ok, wbailer; I see IA_MAWG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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11:57:19 <wbailer>   Meeting: MAWG 2009-06-02
11:57:32 <wbailer> scribe: wbailer
11:57:58 <wbailer> regrets: florian, tobias, chris
11:58:29 <daniel> felix sent his regret also
11:58:59 <wbailer> regrets+ felix
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11:59:35 <Zakim> IA_MAWG()8:00AM has now started
11:59:42 <Zakim> +wbailer
11:59:45 <Zakim> +veroniqueM
12:00:18 <Zakim> +wonsuk
12:00:19 <veroniqueM> Raphael sends his regrets too
12:01:09 <Zakim> +??P8
12:01:09 <wbailer> regrets+ raphael
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12:02:30 <wbailer> topic: approval of previous minutes
12:02:36 <daniel> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/26-mediaann-minutes.html
12:03:30 <wbailer> approved
12:03:39 <wbailer> next conference: June 9
12:03:50 <wbailer> agenda for today: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Jun/0000.html
12:03:58 <wbailer> topic: action items
12:04:06 <wbailer> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
12:04:22 <wbailer> ACTION-43 pending
12:04:45 <wbailer> ACTION-47 ongoing
12:05:04 <wbailer> ACTION-105 ongoing
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12:06:29 <wbailer> ACTION-121: contacted doug, no answer yet
12:06:29 <trackbot> ACTION-121 Remind doug to publish requirements document notes added
12:06:31 <Zakim> + +49.238.aabb
12:06:48 <wbailer> daniel to ask doug 
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12:07:53 <wbailer> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
12:07:57 <daniel> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/122
12:08:22 <wbailer> ACTION-122: same as 121, sent mail, but no response
12:08:22 <trackbot> ACTION-122 Talk to with Phillipe about the delay of the publication notes added
12:08:51 <wbailer> close ACTION-123
12:08:52 <trackbot> ACTION-123 Ask the mailing list to provide descriptions for targetAudience/locator closed
12:09:33 <wbailer> topic: Initial draft of "Ontology for Media Entity 1.0"  
12:10:18 <wbailer> wonsuk: sent link to revised draft, 4 changes
12:10:40 <joakim> good
12:10:49 <wbailer> ... terminology part: pchampin's suggestion of media resource has been used
12:11:00 <wbailer> ... term consistent in whole document
12:11:16 <wbailer> ... added description of target audience and locator elements
12:11:27 <wbailer> ... fixed types and links
12:11:31 <daniel> I could not find any definition of those terms in RDF-Schema
12:13:05 <wbailer> daniel: comments from silvia
12:13:11 <daniel> Just one comment.
12:13:11 <daniel> I think your distinction between resource and representation is not
12:13:11 <daniel> the way in which the Web uses the word "resource". The term "resource"
12:13:11 <daniel> is already defined in "URI" (unified resource identifier), so you
12:13:11 <daniel> should not need to re-define it.
12:13:29 <daniel> There is however always the possibility to open your own naming space
12:13:29 <daniel> - in which case there is no need to be in sync with MF, since we are
12:13:29 <daniel> in sync with URI.
12:13:47 <daniel> There is however always the possibility to open your own naming space
12:13:47 <daniel> - in which case there is no need to be in sync with MF, since we are
12:13:47 <daniel> in sync with URI.
12:14:42 <wbailer> veronique: pchampins rephrasing takes silvias comments into account
12:15:11 <wbailer> veronique: sent list of proposed changes to media ontology document
12:15:24 <wbailer> topic: attribute descriptions
12:15:25 <daniel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009May/0099.html 
12:17:06 <wbailer> wonsuk: felix proposed to add type to core properties in order to address these comments
12:17:19 <wbailer> ... to be done after first publication 
12:18:03 <wbailer> joakim: agrees to postpone to next version
12:19:02 <wbailer> topic: Syntactic descriptions comment from Felix
12:19:36 <wbailer> wonsuk: related to same issue as David's comments
12:20:37 <wbailer> joakim: everyone to look at changes proposed by veronique within next days
12:21:04 <wbailer> ... document could be published when these changes are done
12:21:14 <wbailer> topic: Browsable version of ontology
12:21:22 <daniel> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/MediaOntology
12:21:40 <wbailer> ruben is not present
12:22:21 <wbailer> action: daniel to send mail to ruben on this issue
12:22:21 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
12:22:32 <wbailer> topic: Schedule for API and Ontology for Media Resource 1.0 First Draft
12:23:21 <wbailer> joakim: publish before f2f
12:24:12 <daniel> exact due for the publication ?
12:24:27 <daniel> just before F2F or specific timeline ?
12:25:43 <joakim> if we get the comments to veroique before friday maybe we can have a draft for publication on monday 8?
12:26:40 <wbailer> veronique: should be feasible
12:26:50 <joakim> s/ veroique veronique
12:27:07 <wbailer> thierry: publishing only possible on tuesday and thursday
12:27:53 <wbailer> ... one day in advance needed, if doc is ready on Mon 8 early, Tuesday might work, Thursday for sure
12:28:09 <wbailer> ... extra time as publishing is done in US
12:29:11 <wbailer> daniel: have final draft until next telecon
12:29:38 <wbailer> ... discuss final draft and decide about publication
12:30:22 <wbailer> daniel: status of requirements document publication?
12:31:00 <wbailer> joakim: sent May 12
12:31:07 <joakim> Hi all and Doug,
12:31:09 <joakim> I prepared the draft of the use cases & req document for 2nd publication, see
12:31:11 <joakim> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-req/mediaont-req.html
12:31:12 <joakim> esp.
12:31:14 <joakim> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-req/mediaont-req.html#status
12:31:16 <joakim> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-req/mediaont-req.html#change-log
12:31:18 <joakim> http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-req/diff20090119.html
12:31:20 <joakim> @ Doug: Except editing publication date, this should be fine.
12:31:27 <wbailer> thierry to investigate what happened
12:32:44 <joakim> bye
12:32:46 <wbailer> Zakim, list attendees
12:32:46 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been wbailer, veroniqueM, wonsuk, +46.1.07.19.aaaa, +49.238.aabb
12:32:48 <Zakim> -??P8
12:32:48 <Zakim> -veroniqueM
12:32:50 <Zakim> - +46.1.07.19.aaaa
12:32:50 <Zakim> - +49.238.aabb
12:32:53 <wonsuk> bye~
12:33:00 <wbailer> RRSAgent, make logs public 
12:33:06 <wbailer> RRSAgent, draft minutes 
12:33:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer
12:33:09 <Zakim> -wonsuk
12:33:42 <Zakim> -wbailer
12:33:44 <Zakim> IA_MAWG()8:00AM has ended
12:33:45 <Zakim> Attendees were wbailer, veroniqueM, wonsuk, +46.1.07.19.aaaa, +49.238.aabb
12:33:47 <wbailer> Zakim, bye
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12:33:56 <wbailer>   rrsagent, bye
12:33:56 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-mediaann-actions.rdf :
12:33:56 <RRSAgent> ACTION: daniel to send mail to ruben on this issue [1]
12:33:56 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-mediaann-irc#T12-22-21