IRC log of mediaann on 2009-06-02

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-mediaann-irc
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zakim, this will be MAWG
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ok, wbailer; I see IA_MAWG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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Meeting: MAWG 2009-06-02
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scribe: wbailer
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regrets: florian, tobias, chris
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felix sent his regret also
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regrets+ felix
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IA_MAWG()8:00AM has now started
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+wbailer
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+veroniqueM
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+wonsuk
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Raphael sends his regrets too
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+??P8
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regrets+ raphael
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+ +46.1.07.19.aaaa
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topic: approval of previous minutes
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http://www.w3.org/2009/05/26-mediaann-minutes.html
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approved
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next conference: June 9
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agenda for today: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009Jun/0000.html
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topic: action items
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
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ACTION-43 pending
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ACTION-47 ongoing
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ACTION-105 ongoing
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ACTION-121: contacted doug, no answer yet
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ACTION-121 Remind doug to publish requirements document notes added
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+ +49.238.aabb
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daniel to ask doug
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/122
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ACTION-122: same as 121, sent mail, but no response
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ACTION-122 Talk to with Phillipe about the delay of the publication notes added
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close ACTION-123
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ACTION-123 Ask the mailing list to provide descriptions for targetAudience/locator closed
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topic: Initial draft of "Ontology for Media Entity 1.0"
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wonsuk: sent link to revised draft, 4 changes
12:10:40 [joakim]
good
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... terminology part: pchampin's suggestion of media resource has been used
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... term consistent in whole document
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... added description of target audience and locator elements
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... fixed types and links
12:11:31 [daniel]
I could not find any definition of those terms in RDF-Schema
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daniel: comments from silvia
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Just one comment.
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I think your distinction between resource and representation is not
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the way in which the Web uses the word "resource". The term "resource"
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is already defined in "URI" (unified resource identifier), so you
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should not need to re-define it.
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There is however always the possibility to open your own naming space
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- in which case there is no need to be in sync with MF, since we are
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in sync with URI.
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There is however always the possibility to open your own naming space
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- in which case there is no need to be in sync with MF, since we are
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in sync with URI.
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veronique: pchampins rephrasing takes silvias comments into account
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veronique: sent list of proposed changes to media ontology document
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topic: attribute descriptions
12:15:25 [daniel]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2009May/0099.html
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wonsuk: felix proposed to add type to core properties in order to address these comments
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... to be done after first publication
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joakim: agrees to postpone to next version
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topic: Syntactic descriptions comment from Felix
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wonsuk: related to same issue as David's comments
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joakim: everyone to look at changes proposed by veronique within next days
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... document could be published when these changes are done
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topic: Browsable version of ontology
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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/MediaOntology
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ruben is not present
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action: daniel to send mail to ruben on this issue
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Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
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topic: Schedule for API and Ontology for Media Resource 1.0 First Draft
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joakim: publish before f2f
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exact due for the publication ?
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just before F2F or specific timeline ?
12:25:43 [joakim]
if we get the comments to veroique before friday maybe we can have a draft for publication on monday 8?
12:26:40 [wbailer]
veronique: should be feasible
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s/ veroique veronique
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thierry: publishing only possible on tuesday and thursday
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... one day in advance needed, if doc is ready on Mon 8 early, Tuesday might work, Thursday for sure
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... extra time as publishing is done in US
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daniel: have final draft until next telecon
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... discuss final draft and decide about publication
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daniel: status of requirements document publication?
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joakim: sent May 12
12:31:07 [joakim]
Hi all and Doug,
12:31:09 [joakim]
I prepared the draft of the use cases & req document for 2nd publication, see
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http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-req/mediaont-req.html
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esp.
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http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-req/mediaont-req.html#status
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http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-req/mediaont-req.html#change-log
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http://dev.w3.org/2008/video/mediaann/mediaont-req/diff20090119.html
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@ Doug: Except editing publication date, this should be fine.
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thierry to investigate what happened
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bye
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Zakim, list attendees
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As of this point the attendees have been wbailer, veroniqueM, wonsuk, +46.1.07.19.aaaa, +49.238.aabb
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-??P8
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-veroniqueM
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- +46.1.07.19.aaaa
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- +49.238.aabb
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bye~
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer
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-wonsuk
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-wbailer
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IA_MAWG()8:00AM has ended
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Attendees were wbailer, veroniqueM, wonsuk, +46.1.07.19.aaaa, +49.238.aabb
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Zakim, bye
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-mediaann-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: daniel to send mail to ruben on this issue [1]
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