IRC log of mwts on 2009-05-26

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14:55:34 [trackbot]: Zakim, this will be MWI_TS
14:55:34 [Zakim]: ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
14:55:35 [trackbot]: Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
14:55:35 [trackbot]: Date: 26 May 2009
14:56:57 [dom]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0022.html
14:57:02 [dom]: Chair: Wilhelm
14:57:07 [dom]: Regrets: Carmelo
14:59:43 [Zakim]: MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
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15:01:23 [dom]: zakim, ??P14 is kai
15:01:32 [Zakim]: +kai; got it
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15:01:38 [dom]: zakim, ??P28 is me
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15:01:52 [Zakim]: +dom; got it
15:01:58 [Zakim]: +dmitri; got it
15:02:13 [dom]: Topic: Widgets testing
15:02:18 [dom]: ACTION-52?
15:02:18 [trackbot]: ACTION-52 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to draft a blog post on SPARTAN -- due 2009-05-26 -- OPEN
15:02:18 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/52
15:02:29 [dom]: Wilhelm: started, but not finished yet
15:02:32 [dom]: ACTION-2?
15:02:32 [trackbot]: ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN
15:02:32 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2
15:02:39 [dom]: Kai: no news on that front this week
15:02:52 [dom]: Topic: DITG
15:03:04 [dom]: ACTION-49?
15:03:04 [trackbot]: ACTION-49 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to present the DITG to the W3C chairs -- due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN
15:03:04 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/49
15:03:08 [dom]: Dom: still pending
15:03:12 [dom]: Topic: Memory Test
15:03:15 [dom]: ACTION-53?
15:03:15 [trackbot]: ACTION-53 -- Kai Hendry to retest memory test with his devices -- due 2009-05-26 -- OPEN
15:03:15 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/53
15:03:57 [dom]: Kai: I tested on an HTC Diamond - the test seems to work, although it is a bit hard to track the actual memory limit
15:04:32 [dom]: ... also, memory leaks seem to interfere with the testing...
15:04:59 [dom]: Wilhelm: how far up did you on that device?
15:05:16 [dom]: Kai: I didn't reach 1 MB
15:05:54 [dom]: Wilhelm: on the same device, with opera, I go up to @@@
15:06:28 [dom]: Kai: the limitations of the binary search makes it hard to find the right limit
15:06:37 [dom]: ... the test is still a bit too painful to use I would think
15:07:01 [dom]: s/@@@/55KB/
15:07:08 [dom]: Dom: is it something we should try to fix?
15:07:33 [dom]: Kai: we could try to automate it more with a wrapper script, but that would be quite difficult to do
15:07:48 [dom]: Wilhelm: esp. in a cross-platform approach
15:08:00 [dom]: ACTION-53 closed
15:08:00 [trackbot]: ACTION-53 Retest memory test with his devices closed
15:08:09 [dom]: ACTION-54 closed
15:08:09 [trackbot]: ACTION-54 Retest memory test with his devices closed
15:08:19 [dom]: ACTION-50?
15:08:19 [trackbot]: ACTION-50 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to publish Carmelo's draft re memory test in the blog -- due 2009-05-19 -- OPEN
15:08:19 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/50
15:09:00 [dom]: Dom: how do we want to advertize it as a result?
15:09:21 [dom]: Wilhelm: as a way for people to play with it, and report results
15:09:31 [dom]: ACTION: Dom to fix text on memory test
15:09:31 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-56 - Fix text on memory test [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-06-02].
15:10:05 [dom]: Topic: Web Compatibility Test
15:10:08 [dom]: ACTION-55?
15:10:08 [trackbot]: ACTION-55 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to look at WCTMB2 ideas -- due 2009-06-02 -- OPEN
15:10:08 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/55
15:10:26 [dom]: Wilhelm: started playing with something, but nothing ready yet; any input is welcome
15:10:36 [dom]: Kai: what tests have you been working on?
15:10:45 [dom]: Wilhelm: only the set up at this time - not the tests itself
15:11:41 [dom]: Dmitri: one question on the current compatibility test: one of the tests test iframes - it's not valid markup; is it expected?
15:12:16 [dom]: -> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.w3.org/2008/06/mobile-test/ WCTMB test validation results
15:12:52 [dom]: Wilhelm: yes, that's intended
15:13:02 [dom]: Topic: Blog
15:13:04 [dom]: ACTION-45?
15:13:04 [trackbot]: ACTION-45 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to propose a plan for getting contributions from community -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN
15:13:04 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/45
15:13:29 [dom]: Topic: OMA
15:13:35 [dom]: ACTION-21?
15:13:35 [trackbot]: ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
15:13:35 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21
15:13:43 [dom]: ACTION-14?
15:13:43 [trackbot]: ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
15:13:43 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14
15:14:06 [dom]: Topic: Next meeting
15:14:12 [dom]: June 2nd
15:14:19 [Zakim]: -dmitri
15:14:20 [Zakim]: -dom
15:14:20 [Zakim]: -kai
15:14:22 [Zakim]: -wilhelm
15:14:22 [Zakim]: MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
15:14:23 [Zakim]: Attendees were wilhelm, kai, dom, dmitri
15:14:30 [dom]: s/<dom> ->/<dom_scribe> ->/g
15:14:33 [dom]: zakim, bye
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15:14:36 [dom]: RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:14:36 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/26-mwts-minutes.html dom