IRC log of wai-wcag on 2009-05-21
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/05/21-wai-wcag-irc
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- RRSAgent, make log world
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- Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
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- Chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2009AprJun/0039.html
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- agenda+ Miscellaneous Issues for 21 May 2009
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- agenda+ Possible W3C note on AT Push Items
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- agenda+ Amount of Accessibility Support needed before we list something as sufficient
- 19:56:35 [Loretta]
- maybe we should post the cheat sheet to the wiki?
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- thanks
- 20:03:06 [Ben]
- zakim, this is WAI_WCAG
- 20:03:06 [Zakim]
- ok, Ben; that matches WAI_WCAG()3:00PM
- 20:03:07 [David_MacDonald]
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:03:13 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, +1.415.373.aaaa, ??P3
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- 20:03:37 [Ben]
- zakim, ??P3 is Ben_Caldwell
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- +Ben_Caldwell; got it
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- +Andi_Snow-Weaver
- 20:04:25 [Ben]
- zakim, 01+1.415.373.aaaa is Sofia_Celic_Li
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- sorry, Ben, I do not recognize a party named '01+1.415.373.aaaa'
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- +Tim_Boland
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- 02 01zakim, +1.415.373 is Sofia_Celic_Li
- 20:05:09 [Ben]
- 01zakim, +1.415.373 is Sofia_Celic_Li
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
- 20:05:31 [Ben]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:05:31 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, +1.415.373.aaaa, Ben_Caldwell, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
- 20:05:40 [Ben]
- zakim, +1.415 is Sofia
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- +Sofia; got it
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- zakim, Sofia is Sofia_Celic_Li
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- +Sofia_Celic_Li; got it
- 20:09:06 [Ben]
- zakim, Sofia_Celic_Li is Sofia_Celic-Li
- 20:09:06 [Zakim]
- +Sofia_Celic-Li; got it
- 20:11:06 [Ben]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:11:06 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Sofia_Celic-Li, Ben_Caldwell, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
- 20:11:31 [Ben]
- Present: 01David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Sofia_Celic-Li, Ben_Caldwell, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- scribe: David_MacDonald
- 20:12:03 [David_MacDonald]
- :-)
- 20:12:32 [Ben]
- zakim, agenda?
- 20:12:32 [Zakim]
- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
- 20:12:34 [Zakim]
- 1. Miscellaneous Issues for 21 May 2009 [from Ben]
- 20:12:36 [Zakim]
- 2. Possible W3C note on AT Push Items [from Ben]
- 20:12:38 [Zakim]
- 3. Amount of Accessibility Support needed before we list something as sufficient [from Ben]
- 20:13:54 [Ben]
- zakim, Ben has Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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- 20:14:19 [Ben]
- present+ Gregg_Vanderheiden
- 20:15:20 [David_MacDonald]
- Action: Bruce to lead a WCAG review of ATAG due by Jun 11, Sophia to join
- 20:15:20 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-31 - Lead a WCAG review of ATAG due by Jun 11, Sophia to join [on Bruce Bailey - due 2009-05-28].
- 20:16:48 [Ben]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 20:16:48 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Miscellaneous Issues for 21 May 2009" taken up [from Ben]
- 20:17:56 [David_MacDonald]
- topic: Sufficient Technique for SC 4.1.2: Using WAI-ARIA to provide semantic role information ...
- 20:21:00 [Zakim]
- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +[Microsoft]
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 20:25:18 [Ben]
- zakim, mute Tim
- 20:25:18 [Zakim]
- Tim_Boland should now be muted
- 20:37:38 [David_MacDonald]
- Action: Andi to discuss with David Todd to amend the example with snips of code and put on a separate wiki page...
- 20:37:38 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-32 - Discuss with David Todd to amend the example with snips of code and put on a separate wiki page... [on Andi Snow-Weaver - due 2009-05-28].
- 20:38:30 [David_MacDonald]
- s/example/example Sufficient Technique for SC 4.1.2: Using WAI-ARIA to provide semantic role information
- 20:40:03 [David_MacDonald]
- Resolution: accept Review comments on Mobile Best Practices (MWBP) and WCAG as modified with Ben's additional comments
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- Topic: Review comments on Developing a Web Accessibility Business Case for Your Organization
- 20:41:20 [David_MacDonald]
- Resolution: accept Review comments on Developing a Web Accessibility Business Case for Your Organization with Bruce's additional comments
- 20:42:50 [David_MacDonald]
- Topic: return to discussion about W3C note on AT Push items
- 20:49:41 [Zakim]
- -Tim_Boland
- 21:08:22 [David_MacDonald]
- resolution: create a short document describing the gap between At Users expectations and web authors expectations which can be addressed by Assistive Technology, Ben to lead, David, Cynthia, Loretta to join
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- Topic: resume discusion about the amount of AT support necessary before we list a technique a sufficient
- 21:14:53 [Loretta]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/H77.html
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- -Bruce_Bailey
- 21:20:53 [Ben]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/H81
- 21:28:31 [Zakim]
- +Bruce_Bailey
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- -Bruce_Bailey
- 21:33:43 [Loretta]
- \me Bruce, come back!
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 21:40:54 [David_MacDonald]
- Resolution: Put AT support on survey ... that Sufficient Techniqes have at least one AT supporting them with additional discussion about retroactivity
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- s/qes/ques
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- -Sofia_Celic-Li
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- -[Microsoft]
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- -Ben_Caldwell
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, +1.415.373.aaaa, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Sofia_Celic-Li, Gregg_Vanderheiden, [Microsoft]
- 21:50:24 [Loretta]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/21-wai-wcag-minutes.html Loretta
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/21-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Bruce to lead a WCAG review of ATAG due by Jun 11, Sophia to join [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/21-wai-wcag-irc#T20-15-20
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- ACTION: Andi to discuss with David Todd to amend the example with snips of code and put on a separate wiki page... [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/21-wai-wcag-irc#T20-37-38