19:55:06 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag
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19:55:12 <Ben> RRSAgent, make log world
19:55:18 <Ben> Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
19:55:39 <Ben> Chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
19:55:48 <Ben> ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
19:56:05 <Ben> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2009AprJun/0039.html
19:56:15 <Ben> agenda+ Miscellaneous Issues for 21 May 2009
19:56:25 <Ben> agenda+ Possible W3C note on AT Push Items
19:56:32 <Ben> agenda+ Amount of Accessibility Support needed before we list something as sufficient
19:56:35 <Loretta> maybe we should post the cheat sheet to the wiki?
19:57:20 <Loretta> thanks
20:03:06 <Ben> zakim, this is WAI_WCAG
20:03:06 <Zakim> ok, Ben; that matches WAI_WCAG()3:00PM
20:03:07 <David_MacDonald> David_MacDonald has joined #wai-wcag
20:03:13 <Ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:03:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, +1.415.373.aaaa, ??P3
20:03:23 <Sofia> Sofia has joined #wai-wcag
20:03:37 <Ben> zakim, ??P3 is Ben_Caldwell
20:03:37 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
20:03:54 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow-Weaver
20:04:25 <Ben> zakim, 01+1.415.373.aaaa is Sofia_Celic_Li
20:04:25 <Zakim> sorry, Ben, I do not recognize a party named '01+1.415.373.aaaa'
20:04:35 <Andi> Andi has joined #wai-wcag
20:04:40 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:04:48 <Ben> 02 01zakim, +1.415.373 is Sofia_Celic_Li
20:05:09 <Ben> 01zakim, +1.415.373 is Sofia_Celic_Li
20:05:17 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:05:31 <Ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:05:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, +1.415.373.aaaa, Ben_Caldwell, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:05:40 <Ben> zakim, +1.415 is Sofia
20:05:40 <Zakim> +Sofia; got it
20:05:51 <Ben> zakim, Sofia is Sofia_Celic_Li
20:05:51 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic_Li; got it
20:09:06 <Ben> zakim, Sofia_Celic_Li is Sofia_Celic-Li
20:09:06 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic-Li; got it
20:11:06 <Ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:11:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Sofia_Celic-Li, Ben_Caldwell, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:11:31 <Ben> Present: 01David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, Sofia_Celic-Li, Ben_Caldwell, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:11:52 <Ben> scribe: David_MacDonald
20:12:03 <David_MacDonald> :-)
20:12:32 <Ben> zakim, agenda?
20:12:32 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
20:12:34 <Zakim> 1. Miscellaneous Issues for 21 May 2009 [from Ben]
20:12:36 <Zakim> 2. Possible W3C note on AT Push Items [from Ben]
20:12:38 <Zakim> 3. Amount of Accessibility Support needed before we list something as sufficient [from Ben]
20:13:54 <Ben> zakim, Ben has Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:13:54 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
20:14:01 <greggvanderheiden> greggvanderheiden has joined #wai-wcag
20:14:19 <Ben> present+ Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:15:20 <David_MacDonald> Action: Bruce to lead a WCAG review of ATAG due by Jun 11, Sophia to join
20:15:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-31 - Lead a WCAG review of ATAG due by Jun 11, Sophia to join [on Bruce Bailey - due 2009-05-28].
20:16:48 <Ben> zakim, take up agendum 1
20:16:48 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Miscellaneous Issues for 21 May 2009" taken up [from Ben]
20:17:56 <David_MacDonald> topic: Sufficient Technique for SC 4.1.2: Using WAI-ARIA to provide semantic role information ...
20:21:00 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:22:08 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:22:17 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:23:24 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:25:09 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:25:18 <Ben> zakim, mute Tim
20:25:18 <Zakim> Tim_Boland should now be muted
20:37:38 <David_MacDonald> Action: Andi to discuss with David Todd to amend the example with snips of code and put on a separate wiki page... 
20:37:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-32 - Discuss with David Todd to amend the example with snips of code and put on a separate wiki page...  [on Andi Snow-Weaver - due 2009-05-28].
20:38:30 <David_MacDonald> s/example/example Sufficient Technique for SC 4.1.2: Using WAI-ARIA to provide semantic role information
20:40:03 <David_MacDonald> Resolution: accept Review comments on Mobile Best Practices (MWBP) and WCAG as modified with Ben's additional comments
20:40:46 <David_MacDonald> Topic: Review comments on Developing a Web Accessibility Business Case for Your Organization
20:41:20 <David_MacDonald> Resolution: accept Review comments on Developing a Web Accessibility Business Case for Your Organization with Bruce's additional comments
20:42:50 <David_MacDonald> Topic: return to discussion about W3C note on AT Push items
20:49:41 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
21:08:22 <David_MacDonald> resolution: create a short document describing the gap between At Users expectations and web authors expectations which can be addressed by Assistive Technology, Ben to lead, David, Cynthia, Loretta to join
21:09:21 <David_MacDonald> Topic: resume discusion about the amount of AT support necessary before we list a technique a sufficient
21:14:53 <Loretta> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/H77.html
21:16:54 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:20:53 <Ben> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/H81
21:28:31 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:33:27 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:33:43 <Loretta> \me Bruce, come back!
21:34:15 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:40:54 <David_MacDonald> Resolution: Put AT support on survey ... that Sufficient Techniqes have at least one AT supporting them with additional discussion about retroactivity
21:41:21 <David_MacDonald> s/qes/ques
21:41:29 <Zakim> -Sofia_Celic-Li
21:41:30 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
21:41:32 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:41:33 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
21:41:34 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:41:34 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow-Weaver
21:41:43 <Zakim> -Ben_Caldwell
21:41:44 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
21:41:46 <Zakim> Attendees were David_MacDonald, Bruce_Bailey, +1.415.373.aaaa, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Tim_Boland, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Sofia_Celic-Li, Gregg_Vanderheiden, [Microsoft]
21:50:24 <Loretta> rrsagent, draft minutes
21:50:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/21-wai-wcag-minutes.html Loretta
21:52:36 <Loretta> rrsagent, make log public
21:52:47 <Loretta> rrsagent, bye
21:52:47 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/21-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
21:52:47 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Bruce to lead a WCAG review of ATAG due by Jun 11, Sophia to join [1]
21:52:47 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/21-wai-wcag-irc#T20-15-20
21:52:47 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Andi to discuss with David Todd to amend the example with snips of code and put on a separate wiki page...  [2]
21:52:47 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/21-wai-wcag-irc#T20-37-38